Let's talk about blue sways.

What are the odds of having another boy or girl? : Ingender.com

Thanks for the pep talk ELP. Above is the link to the article on IG that refers to chances of boy/girl against birth order. I'm not sure how reputable the original study that's mentioned is but it does suggest it's from a longitudinal study of 6000 American families. I'm also not sure how well the original study has been interpreted for this article. The article does suggest that there is always a (slightly) higher chance of having a boy irrespective of number or gender of previous children. The only exception to this appears to be after having 2 girls :confused::sad:.

I'm not an expert in statistics and would love any thoughts or insights that others may have. I totally believe in swaying but I get discouraged thinking how pink friendly I'm already starting and then statistics going against me aswell.

Oh JConger, blue blue blue to you! Sending all the blue wishes your way, when do you find out?

MsMarie and Mia, here to a little, er, here's to a lotta blue luck to us in the near future! Still trying to learn to navigate the site. Do you ladies get notifications when someone replies to your post or just check back?

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Thank you so much for this encouragement! I am new around here and have been a bit discouraged reading about blue stats. I have two gorgeous girls but have dreamed of a boy long before I even had children. I know my chances after two girls aren't good as is. By the way, Atomic, do you have a theory or an opinion on why blue percentage goes down after two girls but not three. Can I beat the odds? I always wanted just two kids, but my heart still aches for that little boy.

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Katie, let me point out that this entire brouhaha that spawned this thread was because one due date group on here comprised of THREE blue swayers, all got girls. (one of them had some complicating factors that may have swayed strongly pink, BTW) They happened to be active posters so their opposites got an undue level of attention while simultaneously we had other less-active posters having successful blue sways but they just didn't get the attention that the others did.

In 2017 we have had 3 blue sways so far and they were all successful. a 4th has had a very promising ultrasound at 19 weeks but is staying Team Green for now.

Our stats have been very good IMO. There is nothing to be discouraged about. 66% over the lifetime of the site, over 200 people. This is good results!!

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Hey Katie, I'm in the same boat and have also read that article on birth order over on IG aswell. For some reason I find it really hard to shake the idea of being behind the eight ball when I'm already very pink friendly as it is. Feels like pushing water up a hill. Interested to see her response.

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But remember that article on birth order was NOT IN SWAYERS!! It was in people who were probably doing their normal thing (ya know, the stuff that had already gotten them 2 girls). It doesn't apply to us!

It's a miniscule statistical variation. It's not major and remember all those people were not swaying, they were living their normal lives and proably doing one BD on O (which doesn't work and actually sways pink) trying to get a boy!

I think we have this nut cracked and had some bad luck last year. Other years ahve been 70-80% success for blue with same approach!! :bluecheer:

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Oh JConger, blue blue blue to you! Sending all the blue wishes your way, when do you find out?

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Thank you! We are 16 weeks so should find out in a month. The thought raises my blood pressure and pulse lol. Trying to decide if we should find out or wait... it's so tough since I was disappointed hearing girl the last two times and this is most likely our last kiddo. I definitely don't want to be disappointed or cry again so I'm praying if we go green or find out! Thanks for being excited with us!

Thanks Atomic for this news! How exciting it's been 100% so far this year [emoji6]


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Thanks so much Atomic, that's the answer I was hoping for. Both my husband and I are very active in terms of exercise, we eat a ton of protein and have healthy diets. However with DD1 we DTD only once during fertile period, and DD2 was a suprise also from only 1 attempt. Additionally my husband is a smoker and did have low T at one point. It's encouraging to see the things I could do differently in the future to get the boy, and husband is already on the patch to quit. Nice to know the stats we discussed (odds of getting the same gender) do not apply to Swayers. It makes perfect sense that if you do what you've always done, you get the same results (unless of course you're lucky).

Jconger, I know the feeling all too well (crying over my girls). I think often about what I'll do the third time around, in terms of finding out gender or not until the big day. If you do decide to find out and want to share please do, or hopefully you'll want to shout it out to the world with happiness. :))

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Jconger, I know the feeling all too well (crying over my girls). I think often about what I'll do the third time around, in terms of finding out gender or not until the big day. If you do decide to find out and want to share please do, or hopefully you'll want to shout it out to the world with happiness. :))

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Thanks girl! I will most definitely share on here if we find out. And yes I hope I'm screaming and shouting and crying tears of joy lol.


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Thanks girl! I will most definitely share on here if we find out. And yes I hope I'm screaming and shouting and crying tears of joy lol.


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Well we found out and it's another girl [emoji24]


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Jconger - I'm sorry! I'm swaying blue too and have 2 girls! I know you had your heart set on a boy, but I will tell you I know SO many families of 3 girls and they are just awesome. Especially when they get older and start having children of their own - they always seem so close and do stuff together all the time. How was your husbands reaction?

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I added you to the data thread for 2017 - I am very sorry it didn't go your way.

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Originally Posted by dancingdiva88

Thanks atomic for this thread. You are completely correct in saying no sway is 100%. While people may follow all the blue sway tips and tools to the finest point, there will people who still conceive girls (someone has to make up that 20-25%, not everyone gets to be in that 75-80%!!)
The funny thing about calcium is that I personally know a few ladies who love their calcium and ate it loads and had boys, they also had a bit of extra weight on them. So I'm with you on the calcium being a better boy sway than girl.

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Update, she got a boy too

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

Sharing this everywhere the topic came up because I do think it is very important.

3 or 4 unlucky sways can make a 58% success rate into a 70% one. There was one off year and looking at the bigger picture our overall success rates over 5 years with a much larger sample size are 66%.

I thought it might be helpful to everyone to see the breakdown of our success rates for blue sways by year.

2011-2012 40 :DS: 22 :DD: - 62% success rate.

I have a further breakdown for 41 of these where I broke them down by IG/FGD vs. HE because HE was new then and we wanted to see if there was any difference - this thread is in the Dream Members section for anyone who wants to verify this.

41 total sways
15 opposites, 4 of which were HE, 11 of which were IG/FGD
26 success, 10 of which were IG, 16 of which were HE

If I had chosen to eliminate the IG sways I could have manipulated this data into a much higher success% for this two year period while improving our overall success rates for the site, but I choose not to do that.

2013 29 :DS: 7 :DD: - 80% success rate

2014 20 :DS: 8 :DD: - 71% success rate

2015 21 :DS: 15 :DD: 58% success rate

2016 So far 5 :DS: 5 :DD: 50% success rate.

Total success rates of the site:

172 total sways, 115 boys, 57 girls, success rate 66%

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UPDATE DEC 23, 2017

2017 19 :DS: 8 :DD: 70% success rate

199 total sways, 134 boys, 70 girls, 67% total success rate (just about the same as our pink sways have gotten over the course of time)

Blue sways are working. 2015 and 2016 were bad luck, small sample size, combined with a handful of people who did not or could not sway as effectively as one might have wanted for a variety of reasons.

Still would like everyone to stay away from EPO, milk replacers, and wheatgrass supps anyway even tho I do not believe that is why our results were better this year (since we were using them all in 2011-2014 when our results were also good)

Hi, I am new to gender dreaming, although I have been following some threads and reading them very closely.

I am currently 4 weeks pg. DP and I have been trying to sway for a month or so before we DTD and conceived. Prior to DTD I was taking supps such as: multivitamin (one a day women's), 2000 mg folic acid, vit c, omega 3's fish oils, mucinex from AF to 3 days after O, and baking soda finger the day we DTD and two days after. DP was taking Zinc, omega 3 fish oil and men's one a day.
We used clear blue digital OPK I was tracking my BBT with FF. The day I got a peak (solid smiley), I also noticed my temp drop and O pains. We DTD that night and the following morning and one of those days we were successful in getting pg.

We have a very boy friendly diet. We eat a lot of fresh veggies, meat, potatoes and we both eat a banana for breakfast every morning. I actually had a steak dinner the night of the peak OPK with a glass of wine. DP works construction so is lifting heavy materials all day long.

That being said, I guess I'm just looking for advice as to what my chances of conceiving a baby boy are? I have a gorgeous 4.5 year old daughter already and we want one more of the opposite sex to complete our family! We have been looking into boy sways for about 6 months before we conceived. Do I have a chance of having a bundle of blue?

Mommyx2, I'm going to answer this in the other thread you asked. I answer all questions and it makes it easier for me if you guys ask each question just once and then wait for me to get through them. Thank you!

Hello! I’m new here and I will have to take clomid to get pregnant again. We are trying to sway for a boy. Can this be done still on clomid? Have been researching diets and what to do. I haven’t seen anyone mention trying to do this on clomid so I would love to find someone who’s had experience with this. I know clomid can give false OPKs so I’m assuming temp and charting would be best for me? Any advice would be great! This is last chance for a boy! Thanks so much


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Yes absolutely you can still sway on Clomid. Our good results for pink with Clomid are WITH pink sways. Doing a blue sway + Clomid will not undermine a blue sway.

Our sway diet is here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum...l-version.html

Oh and while Clomid can cause false positivs on OPK it's only for 3 days after having taken it (and you won't ovulate during that time period). So you can still use OPK, just start them the 4th day after ditching the Clomid.

Clomid can make some weird temps too and many doctors will tell people not to bother temping on Clomid.

https://www.amazon.com/Amazing-Grass...97&sr=1-4&th=1

Can I use this when ttc a boy?

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https://www.amazon.com/Amazing-Grass...97&sr=1-4&th=1

Can I use this when ttc a boy?

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No. It has a lot of ingredients in it that are harmful and some may sway pink.

Is this Fish oil and coconut oil supplement good for blue?
And can we use both together?


https://www.amazon.com/Omega-3-Alask...ay&sr=8-7&th=1



https://www.amazon.com/veggie-softge...s%2C184&sr=8-6

Please let me know.

Thank you

Too much fish oil, I prefer 500 mg

There's no need to take coconut oil. You can use it to cook with but you don't need to take it as a supplement.

Recently updated the "blue sways by the numbers" thread:

I thought it might be helpful to everyone to see the breakdown of our success rates by year.

2011-2012 40 :DS: 22 :DD: - 62% success rate.

I have a further breakdown for 41 of these where I broke them down by IG/FGD vs. HE because HE was new then and we wanted to see if there was any difference - this thread is in the Dream Members section for anyone who wants to verify this.

41 total sways
15 opposites, 4 of which were HE, 11 of which were IG/FGD
26 success, 10 of which were IG, 16 of which were HE

2013 29 :DS: 7 :DD: - 80% success rate

2014 20 :DS: 8 :DD: - 71% success rate

2015 21 :DS: 15 :DD: 58% success rate

2016 11 :DS: 8 :DD: 58% success rate.

2017 27 :DS: 11 :DD: 71 % success rate.

2018 so far 25 :DS: 11 :DD: 69% success rate

2019 1 :DS: 100% LOL (this will change over time of course)

Total success rates of the site (updated 4-30-19):

256 total sways, 174 boys, 82 girls, success rate 68%

please note - this is of 4/30/19) I'm not going to keep these up to date daily as sways come in, this is just a snapshot of a moment in time. But I am trying to keep them updated over time so check back often.

I have question regarding omega 3 and omega 6.

How important are they in boy sway compare to blood glucose levels?

I ovulated on April 27 and in 2ww right now.

I just noticed on my omega 3 fish oil supplement ( 1000mg) that the recommended serving in the bottle was 2 capsule and I missed that part and was taking 1 capsule every other day instead of 2.

Also I smacked a lot day and night on pumpkin seeds ( in my oatmeal , with my mango snack, 1 time in my smoothie with beef collagen powder)

I did eat red meat or chicken ( mostly red meat) twice a day every day.

And from first meal till bed time ate every 2-3 hours.

Ate avocado, banana, spinach in a smoothie, kiwi, coconut water, tomatoes, oatmeal ( water, raisins, pumpkin seeds or walnuts or almonds or pine nuts), dates, orange juice, pineapple juice, grapefruit juice almost every single day.

Now thinking about omega 3 is just making me very very nervous.

Please let me know what is more important - steady blood glucose levels by eating healthy every 2 -3 hours low omega 3 by not eating fish oil will fail the sway

We honestly do not know. They have only just barely begun to study this stuff and I cannot tell you how much any one thing sways in comparison to another thing.

What I do know is that I have seen several opposites in people who were eating regularly (keeping blood sugar up) but were doing the milk replacers (loaded with Omega 6) and were not getting many animal fats.

My gut instinct is that it is probably fine, but if you wanted to wait a month that may be a good idea too. I just don't know and when I don't know, I have to put the decision back onto you guys.

Thanks for the reply.

Just keeping my hopes high.

I will get to know on May 10 if it's BFN or BFP.

I normally eat a lot of red meat (goat, lamb, and beef) and was eating it since last few months almost 3-4 times a week when I was not even swaying.

I was a huge ice cream eater too and have always used butter a lot as well, and eat eggs every weekend for breakfast.

Didn't eat ice cream since mid of March as was trying to maintain weight as well since I was already overweight.

I started HE diet mid of March where I did eat cereal with whole milk almost every day and finished 4 boxes of Raisin bran cereal but the last two weeks before ovulation I didn't eat any dairy as I was out of cereal and cannot drink milk by itself but didn't do any milk replacers.

So I am assuming since it was not like I never had high-fat dairy. My body should have fat from eating ice cream, cheese, milk almost every day and 4-5 weeks of not having those things shouldn't make a huge difference I hope.

I did have a lot of lambs, goat meat, ground beef, avocados, mangoes, banana, kiwi, oatmeal, tomatoes the week leading to ovulation.

I ovulated on April 27th and my diet leading to ovulation was as below.

April 20th- I had lamb stew with bread for lunch and Haleem ( mixed daal and lentils with beef) and 2 Shami Kabab ( lentil and beef)

April 22nd - Morning snack I had Almonds followed by oatmeal with dates, raisins, pumpkin seeds, and pinenuts for breakfast.
Mid-morning snack I had a smoothie ( Avocados, coconut water, beet greens, lemon, kiwi and 2 tbsp of beef collagen
Lunch I had 1/3 lb Angus Beef Burger ( Lettuce, Tomatoes, red onion, pickles and bun)
Mango with lemon and pine nuts and pumpkin seeds for a snack
For dinner, I had mixed lentil soup with shredded beef ( Haleem) and tomatoes with pineapple juice
bedtime snack I had a smoothie again ( banana, grapefruit juice, kiwi, spinach, pumpkin seed butter, and beef collagen)

April 23rd - same breakfast and snacks
Lunch - I had a salad ( tomatoes, cucumber, lettuce), spinach pie bites, potato cutlets, meat Turkish pie (ground beef) and chicken rolls.
Dinner - I had lamb curry made in tomatoes, ginger and garlic sauce with bread.

April 24th - same breakfast and snacks
Lunch I had beans with green pepper and pumpkin with ground beef and yogurt as an appetizer followed by lamb and chicken ****s with
afghani naan.
Dinner - Haleem ( lentil soup with beef )

April 25th- Same breakfast and snacks
Lunch I had 1/3 lb Angus Beef Burger ( Lettuce, Tomatoes, red onion, pickles and bun)
Dinner goat chops curry with fresh tomato sauce and bread.

April 26th - Same breakfast and snacks
I did eat 2 slices of cheese with olives before dinner
Lunch I had chicken ****s with baba ghanoush, salad, and bread
Dinner I had Shami Kabab ( lentil and beef) with tomatoes

April 27th - 2 scrambled eggs made in butter with tomatoes and spinach/whole grains with seeds toast for breakfast

Cheese with olives and crackers before breakfast.
Lunch- Shami kabab fried in butter ( lentil and beef ) with grilled tomatoes and zucchini
Dinner - Beefsteak, butter chicken, hummus, baba ghanoush and a small piece of pita bread with tomato and cucumber salad
mango, cantaloupe, and smoothies for snack

April 28th - oatmeal for breakfast and same snacks
Lunch - tortillas with chickpeas and potato curry and Nihari ( beef curry ) with naan
Dinner - Haleem ( lentils with beef)


I did eat cheese and yogurt after ovulation during my 2ww after ovulation.

I ovulated on April 27 and bd on April 20th evening, April 22nd evening, April 25th morning, April 27th morning and evening and April 29th morning.

What do you think of it?

I think your diet looks beautiful, and with all that animal fat in your diet I am sure are on target for a great blue sway!

Does eating habit is the first few weeks of pregnancy matter in terms of gender?

or it doesn't matter what you are eating after ovulation?

You need to continue the diet till BFP in case you do not get pregnant in a certain month. DO NOT stop diet at ovulation.

But gender is set at conception. Once you get a positive pregnancy test you can stop the diet but with blue swayers, you need to be sure you don't then dramatically restrict calories to prevent weight gain, or even lose weight!! Boys need more nutrients than girls from the moment of conception and you should not be dieting when pregnant.

Hi,
I got a BFN this cycle - I am thinking of having a break and then try again in August.
I would like to know if it is ok to loose some while weight eating boy friendly food and then try to maintain or gain few pounds in 6 weeks following the month in which I
ttc.

My plan is to loose some weight in May and June and then do strict 6 weeks sway diet in July ( 3 meal and 2 snacks) and ttc in mid of August ( most likely as per my cycle my fertile days will be August 7-14). So I can start my 6 weeks sway from June 24-August 14 and then continue the diet in 2ww.

This time I am planning to add more cereal with milk, eggs, cheese and yogurt and whole fruits and veggies in my diet instead of dried fruits and nuts which leads to unhealthy weight gain so I don't a lot of weight but get all the minerals and nutrition.

At both of my girls time I conceived at first attempt so I am wondering that may be the reason I didn’t conceive at first attempt this time is either my access weight gain as I am overweight or my body was not boy friendly and since I was maintaining my blood glucose level prior to ttc and in 2ww, girl sperms didn’t thrive ( which is good).

I am 33 and my husband is 43 ( will be 44 in August).

We had semen analysis prior to ttc and he had 67% motile sperms. Do you think we have a chance of conceiving a boy?

He is taking multivitamin, omega 3, L-carnitine, and vitamin D.( after the test was done).
He also takes Ashgwanda because of sleep issues.

I am thinking of starting vitamin c for him too as I read it increases the sperm motility.

Please let me know.

Thank you

What is your weight now if you don't mind my asking?

Yes please drop fruit juice and dried fruit from your sway. Nuts are actually probably better than cereal. Cereal is quite carby and can contribute to weight gain, not saying you shouldn't have it (it's ok) but it certainly isn't anything to eat MORE of and is not better than nuts!

I think you have every chance of having a boy. I do want to know more before I decide if you should lose weight and if so how much.

Currently, I weigh 169 lbs at 5’2.

When I conceived my first daughter I was at normal BMI and when I conceived my second daughter I was 150 lbs.

Maybe I should add 2 days of cardio and 3 days of weight training exercises with 3 meals a day and add healthy snacks.

Breakfast - Egg with full-fat Greek yogurt or almonds/walnut
Lunch - salad or veggies with chicken or salmon
Dinner - Veggies with red meat ( tomatoes, green or red peppers, asparagus)

for snacks cheese with olives, 1 glass of milk, dark chocolate, celery with peanut butter

Please advise

Thank you

Ok. That makes sense to try and lose some weight. I do absolutely want you to add in cardio and weight training if you're not already.

Cut out dried fruit and fruit juice, go easy on potatoes and bananas (they do not sway blue, foods in and of themselves don't sway) and keep protein and healthy fat intake high while reducing carb intake.

Thanks

In order to lose weight while eating boy friendly food, below is an example of what I am thinking of doing.

Please let me know if it's ok.

Breakfast - Omelet with tomato and spinach ( fried in grass-fed butter)

Small snack - Grass fed whole milk Greek yogurt with berries

Lunch - canned salmon with salsa

Small snack - 2 oz of cheese with olives

Dinner - chicken or meat with beans or veggies or avocado ( twice a week)

I will keep my carbs under 50g while losing weight but protein and fat high.

1 glass of grass-fed whole milk before bedtime

2 days cardio - 30 mins

3 days weight - 30 mins

1-day rest

I am aiming to lose at least 20 lbs before getting into 6 weeks sway ( will add fruits kiwi, mango and orange 6 weeks before TTC).

Yes that looks great to me! I would even have you do more exercise but I understand that time is likely limited by kids and life! :)

Hi,

I would like to know if the following vitamin is ok to eat while trying to conceive a boy. Please let me know Thank you.

Which one is better?


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...APMG8NNW&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Maxi-Health-T...1429868&sr=8-9

https://www.amazon.com/Maxi-Health-L...429889&sr=8-25

The Zahler (top link) is no good. It has massive doses of nutrients and some ingredients I don't know how it sways.

The Maxi Health (middle link and bottom link) are also no good. It has massive doses of nutrients and some ingredients we know to sway pink.

Can you find a supplement that has only 100% of all the nutrients, without any added herbal components or other things???