Abundant April 2ww

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Hi and welcome skyblue! And you're not barging in at all, everyone is welcome in these forums and the 2ww ones are the best [emoji6] Have you been trying long? Do you know when you usually o? And lastly are you swaying blue or pink? Lol 20 questions!

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Hello Pbn3. Thankyou for a warm welcome. My bad, Like I said I got a little too excited. I still am figuring out a lot here. Never knew about this thread. Anyway, I will start over. [emoji4]
We are trying for blue. We have a dd who is 5. This will be our second and final child. Both Dh and I have been taking vitamins and I havebn on diet for a few months now. This is our first attempt. It may take long though. My cycle is 28 days long usually. Sometimes a few days late. I havebn using Clearblue advanced opk and cheap eBay one. No flashing smiley yet though. I can never tell when I ovulate. Silly right. But I get my positive opk around cd14 or 15. Do you have any suggestions for me? Thanks again!


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No suggestions as you sound like you have it under control :) plus I'm not up on the latest blue sway wise. But it sounds like you've been doing the HE diet for a good time now. Did you run your sway past atomic? If not I'd suggest starting a thread under the the ttc a boy subforum and just mention everything you've done/are doing, then you can get feedback from the lady that created this whole swaying business here. Also other blue swayers may offer some input as well, there's alot of blue swayers atm, more than I've seen in any case!

So you should be due for a flashing smiley at least in the next day or so, this will make you our first April tester I think 😀! Let's hope you start the bfp ball rolling for us all!! And also not silly at all to not know when you ovulate. I've been trying so long now I feel like I know my body inside out 😂😂 but in saying that I still temp to confirm as opks, pains, cm and cp are only a guide, often a very helpful guide but sometimes a confusing one lol.

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No suggestions as you sound like you have it under control :) plus I'm not up on the latest blue sway wise. But it sounds like you've been doing the HE diet for a good time now. Did you run your sway past atomic? If not I'd suggest starting a thread under the the ttc a boy subforum and just mention everything you've done/are doing, then you can get feedback from the lady that created this whole swaying business here. Also other blue swayers may offer some input as well, there's alot of blue swayers atm, more than I've seen in any case!

So you should be due for a flashing smiley at least in the next day or so, this will make you our first April tester I think [emoji3]! Let's hope you start the bfp ball rolling for us all!! And also not silly at all to not know when you ovulate. I've been trying so long now I feel like I know my body inside out [emoji23][emoji23] but in saying that I still temp to confirm as opks, pains, cm and cp are only a guide, often a very helpful guide but sometimes a confusing one lol.

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I am trying to keep up with all the tips I got here. I have already asked a lot of questions from Atomic. She has bn so helpful and the other blue swayers too. You know I read this thread and realized that this one is for pink swayers. Right?
But I am glad that I posted here unknowingly. [emoji4]

I am hoping for a flashing smiley soon. I was using the pink one for the past 3 cycles and then to take the guess work out a bit more,bought the advanced one which shows flashing smiley and then stable. Fingers crossed. Are you swaying pink? Is it your first kid? 20 questions again. [emoji13] You are so sweet. I am not sure if I will be lucky to have a bfp in the first attempt. I sure hope to though. I have bn using opk for a few months. Never noticed anything except for the last month when had pain in one side. I guess they were o pains. Don't know for sure though. Lol


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The 2ww threads are for everyone pink, blue and non swayers alike! I have two boys and used to sway pink but not any longer, just hoping for a healthy sticky bean :)

I'm using the advanced again too as I love being able to use fmu! This is my last cycle so I'm going all out lol. I'm really hoping I won't get a flashing smiley till Saturday or even better Sunday! I would normally o on cd14 (Sunday) but I took my clomid days 5-9 instead of 3-7 in the hopes of delaying it by a couple days fx fx fx!!! Looks like I may be going away with the boys for the weekend after all while dh is on night shifts so if I get a solid smiley before Monday then I'm screwed 😕 so please cross everything (except the legs, keep them open 😉😂) that my o is delayed....

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Originally Posted by Pbn3

The 2ww threads are for everyone pink, blue and non swayers alike! I have two boys and used to sway pink but not any longer, just hoping for a healthy sticky bean :)

I'm using the advanced again too as I love being able to use fmu! This is my last cycle so I'm going all out lol. I'm really hoping I won't get a flashing smiley till Saturday or even better Sunday! I would normally o on cd14 (Sunday) but I took my clomid days 5-9 instead of 3-7 in the hopes of delaying it by a couple days fx fx fx!!! Looks like I may be going away with the boys for the weekend after all while dh is on night shifts so if I get a solid smiley before Monday then I'm screwed [emoji53] so please cross everything (except the legs, keep them open [emoji6][emoji23]) that my o is delayed....

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I strongly, whole heartedly pray that your O gets delayed. Oh thankgod, I thought I hijacked the pink swayers posts. I am still figuring out a lot of things here. Just open and read in order to get tips. If you don't mind me asking, Why are you saying it's the last cycle? Again, I m clueless about a lot of things here. Also, did you use these opks for your boys? If yes, then do you remember the BD days after positive opk? Sorry for so many questions.


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Ask away :) I'm on my last cycle because I've been trying since June 2015. Lost 3 pregnancies last year and I'm now looking at turning 39 in a few short months. I'm tired of ttc, popping pills etc and just want to move on one way or the other :)

Cant remember with my first if I even used opks. I think I was bding 3-4 times during my 'fertile week'. Ds2 again cant remember the brand opks but was using then and charting etc. Bd wise I specifically remember a Tuesday or Wednesday bd, friday pm (day of pos opk) and Saturday am the cycle I got pregnant (I stared at it over and over 😍). Got my crosshairs indicating o happened sometime during Saturday's 24 hour period. I was a big meat eater then, sometimes 3 times a day. Also with ds2 I had been doing some weights training, aerobics and treadmill to lose weight. Stopped when I fell pregnant.

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I would bd every 2-3 days then get in an extra 2 or more attempts at pos opk. So if you get a pos opk tomorrow, bd tomorrow night, the following morning and night if possible. You'll end up with 3-4 attempts that way. Hope that's right lol! I'm abit rusty on the swaying things now :) If in doubt check with atomic.

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I would bd every 2-3 days then get in an extra 2 or more attempts at pos opk. So if you get a pos opk tomorrow, bd tomorrow night, the following morning and night if possible. You'll end up with 3-4 attempts that way. Hope that's right lol! I'm abit rusty on the swaying things now :) If in doubt check with atomic.

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You are absolutely right. Everyone here is doing the exact same number and times of BD to sway for boy. I m just scared to BD unprotected before positive opk so we used protection[emoji52].
I m sorry for your losses and I pray you get your sticky bean this time.I m turning 35 soon and I m really scared. I m also mad at myself for waiting so long to start trying. Hope we all get our happy healthy babies because that's what matters the most. Isn't it? I wish you all the best with all my heart. Thankyou for being so patient and kind. Much love and hugs.


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Thank you for kind words xx

Can I ask what you mean about scared to bd unprotected prior to pos opk?

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Thank you for kind words xx

Can I ask what you mean about scared to bd unprotected prior to pos opk?

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Sure. I am kind of hung up on the idea of BDing a lot of days before O, sways girl. After coming here, I realized that a lot of things I read on other sites were not right but I m still scared to BD unprotected a lot of days before O. The idea of BD close to O is stuck in my mind.


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That's fine :) and perfect in fact because as atomic often says: your sway, your way. You're doing the main thing which is the diet and the rest can be tailored to what you're comfortable with :) In any case you are welcome to every speck of my blue dust and sending it your way lol. I'm off to do baths etc (that time of night where I am) so I'll say bye for now but talk soon!

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That's fine :) and perfect in fact because as atomic often says: your sway, your way. You're doing the main thing which is the diet and the rest can be tailored to what you're comfortable with :) In any case you are welcome to every speck of my blue dust and sending it your way lol. I'm off to do baths etc (that time of night where I am) so I'll say bye for now but talk soon!

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Sure. It's midnight here. Dd is a little unwell so keeping me up. Will look forward to talk soon. Thankyou!


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Fingers crossed and baby dust to you all!
I am nursing my December baby right now and he is the sweetest little bug!
I hope there are lots of little Christmas miracles on their way to you xx

Welcome sky !! I have 4 boys here lol and I can tell you for sure when we are ttc my husband thinks it's a free for all whenever he wants so we have an attempt at least once a day I may get lucky and he wants to skip a day (not wants to but is gone for work) that's been the hardest part of my sway because he's not cooperating on e4 +1 so maybe a bunch of attempts would work well in your case ttc boy

So frustrating.... still no flashing smiley today!! Grrrr

Hi & welcome skyblue!! I have 2 boys and think I unknowingly swayed blue...of course they are amazing boys, but time for a girl now! I just wanted to get pregnant at the time & wasn't researching sways. A few things that I believe resulted in my boys: Preseed, FertileCM supplement, BD 2-3 times in fertile window and before. Atomic will tell you, but timing doesn't seem to matter, but amount of attempts do. I had a hard time accepting this, but giving my e4d and 1 at pos OPK a shot. I have never been on the HE diet and have been a vegetarian since I was 13, so I don't think diet in this case helped me conceive boys. However, there are certain "boy friendly" foods that I love that I have completely cut out this time (since last June) such as potatoes, bananas, salty foods & dry cereal. Don't know if this will really help, but makes me feel better. GL & sending my blue baby dust your way!!! With all of that being said-any factors that helped you ttc a girl the first time (even unknowingly?) :)

Hi sky, welcome!!

Ashfind, I had the same thing last cycle. I ended up stressing myself out so much over not getting the solid smiley that my O got delayed almost 3 weeks. I know it's hard, but try not to stress about it (as I'm in the same boat right now). It will happen...

On a totally different front.... One of my friends recently adopted a baby from China. They were pregnant and lost the baby at 37 weeks in utero. It was horrific and they decided that they didn't want to try again, and went the adoption route. My husband and I were talking about it last night and said that if we don't get pregnant this month, we are going to look into it as well. We are blessed with two beautiful girls, and as much as we want to have more of our own, there are so many babies and little ones in need. I looked briefly online and the stories are just so sad. Has anyone ever thought or looked into adoption?

Max I have several friends who wanted to adopt but ended up going through the foster care system (in the us) and they get their choice of what babies/children they want to take because they always get a phone call first and they can say yes or no. I have two friends and between the both of them they have adopted 6 children this way. It's much cheaper you get 10k for taking in your first child and your definitely helping the children get out of an unsafe house and sometimes even an unsafe foster house! GL maybe this is why you haven't gotten your bfp yet. Something more is meant for you :)

Maxim-how sad, but wonderful that they were able to adopt! I don't have any helpful info to add, but that would be a win-win scenario in many ways-providing a baby with a home and then you get your sweet baby girl!

Question-I'm getting signs that I'm about to O, EWCM & the usual pain in my right side. I'm trying to stick with the e4d +1 with pos OPK plan. I seem to O around cd12/13, so I think it will happen this weekend. If my last BD day was Mon, should we BD today today(Thurs)or Fri? Which day would be better if I do end up with a pos OPK on Sat/Sun and get another attempt in? Or does it matter? Already getting nervous that I'm going to mess up the 1 attempt!!!

No help here Lola I struggle with the thought of it also. We BD twice yesterday :( so I think I'm going to try to make him hold out until I get a +opk hopefully Sunday

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Welcome sky !! I have 4 boys here lol and I can tell you for sure when we are ttc my husband thinks it's a free for all whenever he wants so we have an attempt at least once a day I may get lucky and he wants to skip a day (not wants to but is gone for work) that's been the hardest part of my sway because he's not cooperating on e4 +1 so maybe a bunch of attempts would work well in your case ttc boy

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Thankyou Ashfind. I m waiting for the flashing opk which hasn't occurred yet. Dh and I were doing after Af but stopped two days back so that we can have our 3 attempts in the fertile window. E4+1 is hard I think. Specially during O.

My flashing smiley just appeared as we speak. Tmi. Lol. Now what. When would U think we should
Bding. Should I wait for solid smiley and how often should I test now. Thanks so much ladies for all your support.


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Originally Posted by Lolabelle

Hi & welcome skyblue!! I have 2 boys and think I unknowingly swayed blue...of course they are amazing boys, but time for a girl now! I just wanted to get pregnant at the time & wasn't researching sways. A few things that I believe resulted in my boys: Preseed, FertileCM supplement, BD 2-3 times in fertile window and before. Atomic will tell you, but timing doesn't seem to matter, but amount of attempts do. I had a hard time accepting this, but giving my e4d and 1 at pos OPK a shot. I have never been on the HE diet and have been a vegetarian since I was 13, so I don't think diet in this case helped me conceive boys. However, there are certain "boy friendly" foods that I love that I have completely cut out this time (since last June) such as potatoes, bananas, salty foods & dry cereal. Don't know if this will really help, but makes me feel better. GL & sending my blue baby dust your way!!! With all of that being said-any factors that helped you ttc a girl the first time (even unknowingly?) :)

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Thankyou Lolabell. I am not using preseed but taking Mucinex and drinking a lot of grapefruit juice which helps with the boy sway. And eating the boy friendly food like you mentioned.

For my dd, We were ttc for 5-6 months and I remember that we didn't dtd a lot. I was dieting and skipped breakfast most days so swayed for a girl unknowingly. But we did try to dtd eod starting day 11 and beyond day 16 since we were getting worried and impatient. That is one of the reason I m scared to try unprotected before POS OPK. That's all I could remember.
I come from a family of a lot of girls and just one boy so sending you all the pink dust. All the best and so great to have u all sharing the same experience.


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Woohoo another low reading for me!! So happy right now and cant believe I'm saying that 😂 fx that o may just be delayed!

Lola stick with the e4d + 1 and try not to stress, remember that's why you switched to it :) bd today and again at pos opk. Even with your usual signs there is no way to be certain o will happen on time so stick to your plan. You're nearly there!!!! Alternatively you can hold off until pos opk which will give you your definate one attempt only but also lower odds of conception. Go with what your comfy with or do what I used to do and flip a coin :)

Ash I'm sorry you still have no flashing smiley :( hang in there! It will happen any day now and likely be less days of flashing before solid which will be a plus!

Maxim I would love to adopt and think its the most beautiful thing you can do for a child who has no one. It's heartbreaking to think there's even one child like that let alone millions :(

Skyblue yay for flashing smiley!! If your heart is set on no unprotected bding until pos opk then continue as you are until the smiley is solid. With these digis you can test more than once a day once its flashing but unless you know you have a short lh surge I would stick with testing using the fmu only. If you aren't successful this cycle then maybe consider additional testing at flashing smiley next cycle. How exciting!! You are one step closer to the 2ww!!!!


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Yay pbn that's great it's holding off for you! And I'm thinking I may have fewer days of flashing since I'm using the same stick as last cycle.
Sky we have 4 boys and my husband is a machine we more than likely had 7 attempts in my 7 day fertile window lol and I'm not joking at all.... tmi it's exhausting sometimes haha!

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Hi sky, welcome!!

Ashfind, I had the same thing last cycle. I ended up stressing myself out so much over not getting the solid smiley that my O got delayed almost 3 weeks. I know it's hard, but try not to stress about it (as I'm in the same boat right now). It will happen...

On a totally different front.... One of my friends recently adopted a baby from China. They were pregnant and lost the baby at 37 weeks in utero. It was horrific and they decided that they didn't want to try again, and went the adoption route. My husband and I were talking about it last night and said that if we don't get pregnant this month, we are going to look into it as well. We are blessed with two beautiful girls, and as much as we want to have more of our own, there are so many babies and little ones in need. I looked briefly online and the stories are just so sad. Has anyone ever thought or looked into adoption?

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Hello Maxim. So sorry to know about your friend. A few relatives have adopted babies in our family. Some of them are in college now. It's an amazing feeling.


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Woohoo another low reading for me!! So happy right now and cant believe I'm saying that [emoji23] fx that o may just be delayed!

Lola stick with the e4d + 1 and try not to stress, remember that's why you switched to it :) bd today and again at pos opk. Even with your usual signs there is no way to be certain o will happen on time so stick to your plan. You're nearly there!!!! Alternatively you can hold off until pos opk which will give you your definate one attempt only but also lower odds of conception. Go with what your comfy with or do what I used to do and flip a coin :)

Ash I'm sorry you still have no flashing smiley :( hang in there! It will happen any day now and likely be less days of flashing before solid which will be a plus!

Maxim I would love to adopt and think its the most beautiful thing you can do for a child who has no one. It's heartbreaking to think there's even one child like that let alone millions :(

Skyblue yay for flashing smiley!! If your heart is set on no unprotected bding until pos opk then continue as you are until the smiley is solid. With these digis you can test more than once a day once its flashing but unless you know you have a short lh surge I would stick with testing using the fmu only. If you aren't successful this cycle then maybe consider additional testing at flashing smiley next cycle. How exciting!! You are one step closer to the 2ww!!!!


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You always have the perfect thing to say to cheer everyone up. Thankyou pbn3. Fx fx fx for you.


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Ash-haha, GL with getting DH on board with your plan :) Maybe you can reward him later on if he sticks to your plan & the girl sway works lol.

Skyblue-thanks for your info!! I have been skipping breakfast (which was harder to give up) but glad to hear that it may actually help. Glad you joined in-it'll be fun to follow-you're almost in the 2ww yay!

Pbn- ha-flip a coin ahh love it!! Thanks for the advice! You always have a way of summarizing things nicely so it all makes sense :) Fx for your delayed O!!!!

XX-isn't tomorrow your big day?? OMG, keep us posted!!

Is the last one a pos OPK? I def have a cramp in my right side...only cd10, maybe tomorrow's will be darker...Attachment 35513

Hmmmm lola I would call that pos or just short of pos.... what time is it where you are? I'm thinking that your scheduled bd tonight will cover you attempt wise as you'll likely o in the next 48 hours 😀 so either way you'll have either a 1-o attempt or 2-o attempt!! How exciting!! Looks like you'll be our first 2 week windower lol!! Let is know if you're testing again tonight! And can't wait to see tomorrows!!

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Lola, looks positive to me!

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Yay momamia!! I see you're cd3 😀 are you still scheduled for bw Monday or have they moved it forward? So excited for you thjs cycle! Just has to be it, I can feel it in my tired old bones lol x

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It is almost 8PM here & that was tested with only a 2 hr hold. I'll test again in the AM with FMU. I always have strong right sided pain that lasts 2-3 days, so this must mean I'm close to O if not already there. Think I'll continue with the BD plan tonight & then maybe again tomorrow night to cover all bases. Hope it doesn't mess the sway up, but just going with it anyway! Interested to see what my temp is tomorrow AM...unfortunately I haven't been taking temps for very long. Eek...excited to be close to the 2WW again round 3 haha, so glad we are all here to support & encourage each other!!!

Go catch that eggie lola!!! Don't be surprised if your temp hasn't spiked in the morning though, and it will be much better if you o tomorrow and have a temp spike Saturday morning which going by your opk I think you will :) Remember swimmers need time to capacitate (approx 6-12 hours) to penetrate the egg.... I'll shut up now lol but good luck, pink dust and fx fx fx fx!!!!!

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Haha thanks for the encouragement pbn!! Now if these boys would just get to sleep... I'll get my attempt in ;)

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Yay momamia!! I see you're cd3 😀 are you still scheduled for bw Monday or have they moved it forward? So excited for you thjs cycle! Just has to be it, I can feel it in my tired old bones lol x

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Yay you too! I'm so glad you haven't gotten a high reading yet!!!! :)

I am still going in on Monday for my next set of blood work. I thought they'd bump it up too but they didn't. It's not a big deal though. I think this might just be "the cycle" for both of us!! :)

FX for everyone! Sorry that I'm horrible about responding to everyone. I'll have to more time tomorrow to go through and respond to everyone. :)

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Yay pbn that's great it's holding off for you! And I'm thinking I may have fewer days of flashing since I'm using the same stick as last cycle.
Sky we have 4 boys and my husband is a machine we more than likely had 7 attempts in my 7 day fertile window lol and I'm not joking at all.... tmi it's exhausting sometimes haha!

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Wow. So the mantra is to BD as much as possible irrespective of the time in cycle. Is it? Now I can imagine e4d must be a real struggle for you. Haha. Hang in there.


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I just did the test again since it's my first month using the advanced one. I was using the pink ones for a couple of cycles. Still flashing and I just got curious and did that pink one too and it's blank. I guess I m a little scared to trust the purple Clearblue opk. Those reviews didn't help much either on some swaying sites.


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Haha thanks for the encouragement pbn!! Now if these boys would just get to sleep... I'll get my attempt in ;)

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Are the boys sleepy yet? Lol. Looks pretty dark and positive. All the best Lola. Hope we all catch the egg this month.


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Wow. So the mantra is to BD as much as possible irrespective of the time in cycle. Is it? Now I can imagine e4d must be a real struggle for you. Haha. Hang in there.


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Sky it depends on many things put together not just bd frequency, or timing etc. 7 attempts in a row will sway pink for some and can really lessen the odds of conception (hence the idea it sways pink as hubbys swimmers are not recovering optimally between nightly bd's) I really wouldn't recommend this at all for you. Eod (e2d) sways strongly blue if you think that would be easier than a cluster of attempts at pos opk. Multiple attempts have shown to be the best blue sway wise but this of course is in conjuction with the diet etc. Hope this helps :)

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That looks positive to me Lola but I've not gotten any experience with these yet. Sky I think the pink only gives you your O day but the purple ones start flashing from what I've seen 2-4 days before O so like once you get into your fertile window. I'm so ready to wake up and see what tomorrow's test brings! So ready for O to get here so I can then start worrying when to test for a bfp lol ...
YAY for all of us getting so close to the 2ww can't wait to see what the next couple weeks brings