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Hi atomic.
Thank you. I also felt it was most likely on CD12. So if it was on CD12, what will be my bd pattern from end of period?
Is it every 2 days protected) then everyday other day on fertile window (protected? Or not? ) And then CD12,13 and 14 ( unprotected)
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Hi atomic, I managed to find a gluten free probiotic. Is this ok? Please let me know , i will order quickly. I will share any other if
I come across one. Many thanks.
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This is the 2nd one I managed to find.
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With Omega3-
Can i buy the above one?any thanks
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If you want to do timing, use protection.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazmin
If you don't care about timing, do unprotected.
Let me go back and look at our last couple posts to better advise you.
The probiotics are fine, the fish oil is too high a dose
So if you're ovulating CD 12, attempting on CD 13 and 14 would be too late. You would be in with only one attempt on CD 12 which would sway strongly pink. If you will O on CD 12, I'd have attempts CD 11 and 12 if you are worried about timing (and try to get in with 2 attempts CD 11), and CD 10-11-12 if you don't care about timing.
But I need to point out that you may not ovulate that same day as you did this month. It really doesn't help us to predict by looking at last month's ovulation day. So I would aim at that, but keep in mind you may O sooner or later.
Thank you Atomic.
I am not worried about timing as I did BD on the day of ovulation (solid smile on clear blue opk) and the next day for my girl 2.
So looks like timing didn't work for me much.
One thing I am conscious this time is the frequency of BD before the fertile window /ovulation.
I have mentioned before that with dd2 , we didn't have chance to bd on the month I conceived(bc of ramadan). It was just once protected after my period (4/5 days before ovulation) and then the 2 unprotected real attempt and that was it.
I was wondering how many days of gaps we should do after periods? Say for example if i done with periods on CD7- do I bd on the following days? E.g CD7, 9, 11,12?
7 and 9 will be protected- if it helps sperm quality/count. Should I need to add more release ? Or is every day release but unprotected on cd 10,11,12?
I wil keep on testing my ovulation with the next two months especially as I am adding in new supps one by one.. my ovulation can change.
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Thanks so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
How much fish oil you recommend? Is it 1000 or 500?
I will go back and try to find one .
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I just read that this one have gelatine too [emoji24][emoji24]. So I cant have this one too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazmin
Another one i found was just oil - not tablet but ssoo expensive. With DH have no job now bcoz of covid, I cannot afford very expensive once at the moment. Or the one i find are 2000mg [emoji28] otherwise have other vitamins in it lol.
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How about this one atomic?
Please help. I feel a bit worried thinking I am running out of the time and never thought i will come across this gelatine issue. Only realised it now.
Option 1. Seven seas ( this one have some D and E- i am having centrum as u know. I dont know if it will overdose- Centrum already have more E than women's a day. So adding up 10 more is maybe not a good idea )
Option 2. Hashmats health. (This is more expensive [emoji20] ) maybe i better off buying this though. No extra vit but maybe dose need to be every other day??
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Please let me know. Thank you so much
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Sorry atomic, i keep sending all these photos and supp . I was never a supps taker and i find it hard [emoji20]. I would only feel better when you give a green light with supps.
The Seven Seas is probably ok, but you can also just skip them. The fish oil is not that important as long as you're eating a healthy diet. You can eat a spoonful of coconut oil daily as a replacement, that is what I have my vegetarian clients do.
Oh ok.
Not sure what dose I need to look for. Do you think Hashmat is high dose ? DH was interested in buying it bcoz of the H certification but I can explain him if you think it is high in dose even at every 1 or 2 days.
I will try to add some coconut oil in my cooking if that helps. Thank you.
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Yes I think the Hashmat is too high a dose. Too much fish oil is worse than nothing.
If you wanted to yes you could take it every other or every 2 days but that's not my preference.
Oh ok. Thanks a million .
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Hi Atomic,
Just few questions (sorry for tmi ) it is about DH sperm. I hope it is ok to ask here.
I didn't want to bother you with my questions which you may have already answered so I did a word search etc but I couldn't find the forum.
I read that higher sperm count is better boy sway
1. How do we know the sperm count is less or more ?
2. I did read somewhere in this site about lumpy/watery sperm. What is better for a boy sway? (Sorry for tmi again)
3.Does DH sperm PH matters?
4. What DH can do to make things better? Count/quality
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1.You don't without expensive testing (that you do not need). For our blue sway we just do whatever we can do to boost sperm count, and that helps everyone.
2. It doesn't matter, that has not proven to mean anything.
3. As long as it is in normal range, pH of semen is likely meaningless. If the pH is oddly high, that is actually NOT a good sign of blue, but may be a sign he has a prostate infection that needs to be treated. It VERY unusual, even unheard of for men to have naturally low pH (the likes of which are said to sway pink.) unless they're taking the pink sway supplements which your husband of course won't be. I wouldn't bother testing it unless he had some symptoms of infections (pain, blood in semen, low grade fever)
4. Everything that is in the blue sway is designed to help. We already have you guys using the safe blue sway options. The other stuff they sell on line is dangerous and does not help your sway, so please don't just go out and buy a bunch of supplements. Check with me if you want to add something in. But I think your best bet is just using what we've already discussed!
Thanks a lot atomic. I thought to clear the questions from my mind. Yes- We are not having anything except what you have recommended. I have carnitine left to buy. Is it the one called L-Carnitine ?
We are taking the following:
DH
Multivitamin
L arg
Probio
Me
Folic acid
Multivitamin
Probiotic
We both are not having any fish oil yet but adding coconut oil in cooking whenever we can. We also add some grated coconut in food if that helps?
What sort workout DH need? I have noticed he recently have become little lazy and not doing much.
I workout about 30 mins 5 days a week. Mix of Weight workout, cardio or indoor walk. Some days I miss out but I try my best to
Make it 5 days. Some weeks it is about 40 mins walk outdoor (once a week). Please let me know if these are all ok. Thank you
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Yes you want L-carnitine.
Grated coconut in food is fine if you like it but you don't need to add it as long as you're getting the coconut fat.
Hubby can lift weights 3-5 times a week. Be sure he doesn't get "the family jewels" overheated when he does.
You're doing great on your exercise! Keep up the good work!
Hi Atomic,
Thank you so much.
I came across the following L-carnitine supp. Is this ok? Please can you have a look?
Also how long hubby needs to workout in a day?
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Yes that is great especially coupled with exercise.
I would have your husband do 30-45 minutes exercise 4-5 days a week.
Ok thank you. I will order the above for DH.
The only thing I couldn't find yet was fish oil. I have added everything else slowly onto my diet instead of starting them all at once. Thought to add fish oil if i find suitable one and if not then to leave it.
I came across the below one. How about this one? The dose shows for 2 gels I think, do you think it would be ok to have just one gel? That would make it half the dose- is that right?
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Yes that's great!! Just take one tablet.
Hi atomic, thank you. That is on the way.
Do you think ovulation can be delayed with multivitamin? I couldn't temp check this month as the thermo battery was dead after the first few days, so missed few days by the time I bought new batteries. This messed my chart and the app thinks I ovulated on CD9, which I thought is wrong and casually thought it will be the usual, around CD 12/13 as its been like that for months.
However, I didn't have usual cramps around cd12/13, today is cd 17! I got cramp on left side and i went and checked with the ovulation strip tester. It was positive with premom suggesting 80.
I have been ovulating around cd 13 last couple of months. So do you think maybe the supps moved my ovulation little further down this month?
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I don't know for sure. If you're taking high doses of B Vitamins and a few of the different herbs those can delay O, but it may just be one of those things. CD 17/18 is still totally in normal range though.
Hi atomic. Thanks so much.
I am not taking any extra vitamins or supp other than what was mentioned here.
I am having centrum multivitamin for a months. Pro bio and folic acid recently started. I did try and add green tea but I probably had it 2/3 times this month.
I will keep a closer eye this cycle and see. Just want to ensure i wont miss o day on my coming up attempt.
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Hi Atomic,
I thought to write down my sway so far.
Please let me know what you think. I just wanted to do everything to the best as I can this time as my previous one didn't work well ( that was before i found this site )
Please do have a read when you can, it is little long .
I had a weight gain this year. As your advise I have been cutting down sugar and carbs.
2 1/2 Tsp sugar to just a quarter to no sugar in tea.
no chocolates and other sweet items.
Carbs- cut down the amount of rice and have been avoiding chips and other forms of carbs such as plantain and tapioca ( i do eat little bit of chips one day on weekend as a treat). I eat my bf, lunch, evening snack and dinner. Doing workout 4-5 days per week.
Good news is that I managed to go down about 6kgs now. It is paused at this weight now for 2/3 weeks.
My planned attempt month is Jan/Feb. I don't know if trying in January will be early? At this stage what do I need to do? Resume HE diet now.
Supplement wise- it took longer than I thought for me to get supplements. I am having the following:
Multivitamin (having it for 3-4 weeks now)
Folic acid (2 weeks aprox)
Probiotics ( 1 week after changed)
Fish oil ( not yet- waiting, will arrive within 2/3 days)
Husband- he started doing weight lifting and some cardio.
Multivitamin - (same as me)
Probiotics ( same as me)
Fish oil ( waiting)
L Arg ( one week)
L Carnitine ( waiting - can start within few 2/3 days)
Now that I almost have the supps, we can continue them all in dec.
looking at all above,
what will be best month? Trying in January after resuming HE diet now plus include little more carbs
OR
ttc in February? not resume HE diet now and loose 1-2 kg more then resume diet in jan? Or
resume diet now but attempt in feb?
By resuming HE diet- i am thinking to add one or two more snacks and add little more carb.
Add snacks Btw bf and lunch & bed time.
i will try my best as am not a freq eater , i find it very hard but with my weight maybe I dont need that much ?
Drinks- v8 &coconut water. I try to drink one a day about 400ml
Milk tea (typhoo brand) 500 ml & black tea (lipton brand) 500ml - Everyday . One in the morning and one in the evening
Diets consists of one or 2 eggs a day. Meat or fish with more veggies for lunch & dinner. Try to add some fruits whenever I can ( banana , apple, berries and oranges). I try including the following- avocado, peanut buttter, dates, pineapple, nuts like pistachios, cashew, badam, , spinach, mashroom, carrot, cucumber, zucchini, broccoli, beetroot, cabbage and cauliflower. Most veggies are cooked with tea spoon of coconut oil. Try include full fat milk with cereal for bf or snack times everyday.
When I had my 2nd daughter - i was around 59-60kg. Now I am about 68ish. Last year this time i was around 60/61. I was at 74ish when I started to cut down.
Overall- what do you feel about my sway and when would be best month to attempt?
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Green tea can delay ovulation but not if you only had it a couple times. I suspect it's just one of those kooky things that happens when swaying.
I would try to have you hold steady on weight and try in January. I don't think you need to add in more carbs, just keep doing what you're doing. I don't think you should add in snacks unless you are feeling hungry between meals. It sounds to me like you're already getting enough food and eating more won't help if you are already eating the amount you need!
Personally, I think you should continue eating the diet you're eating, keep taking your supps and exercising, and see if you hold steady on weight. If more comes off, then ~maybe~ you could add in ONE snack but no more than that. Use fruit and veg and nuts for the carbs in your protein plus carbs, no need to add any more carbs than that.
You're doing GREAT! keep up the good work.
Atomic, Thank you so much.
We will attempt in Jan. my ovulation or fertile window will be around end of Jan, looking at my previous months. [emoji1696] .. praying all goes well [emoji120]
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Hi atomic,
Hope you had a nice xmas.
I was little unwell last few days, mainly on and off headache. So I didn't do any workout for about 8-10 days now. I am little worried, if it will be a problem. My fertile week in attempt month will be around last week of January.
I was still active most of the days with house works.
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I would just pick it up with exercise when you can. Hope you're feeling better!
Thanks Atomic. Yes, I am slowly back to routine. I haven't lost any weight or gained so that's a plus i guess.
I have been watching my ovulation very close this month. I suddenly got different result today, which seems like peak. What do you think? Does it mean I am in peak? And I will ovulate soon like next 12 hours?
My temp in ff didn't predict my ovulation yet though.
Today is CD15. So if this was my attempt month ( planned for January) , how will be my pattern?
We bd on CD12 last.. will it be.. then CD14, cd15, cd16 ( maybe 2 attempts?) . I am not sure which day I should consider as O-3, O-2, O-1 etc. According to the images what would you say? Also attached my temp but ovulation is not predicted yet.
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Please do not use the apps to detect "high" and "peak". They use a totally different definition of those things than fertility monitors and they are completely inaccurate and misleading.
your CD 15 is your first positive OPK. You need to start attempting right away. You will ovulate 24-36 hours after this first positive OPK.
Oh ok. So this means a positive O!. I was trying to figure out what is positive means using the stripes as i haven't used this one for my prev pregnancies.
Yeah true, apps read it wrong at times, the numbers can change if the picture is little brighter etc so not very accurate. But it helps me to look back how my previous tests were like and how dark it was, when I got positive in prev cycle etc, so I can throw away the strips in the bin.
My past cycles weren't this dark though - it was fainted lines and confusing.
My attempt is planned for next month, hopefully It will be the same dark line in next month too. This month, i was just trying to ensure what I thought was correct . Thank you so much for checking atomic.
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Just one thing- so until i see positive OPK.. i planned to do every 2-4 days, once it is positive like the above- so in this cycle CD15, i was trying to figure out , what we referCD15 as? O, 1-O? Or O-2? .. do i bd today, tomorrow and next day (CD15,cd16,d17). Do you recommend to add more than one bd in any of these days?
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Yes, as long as the line is as dark or darker than the test line that is a positive OPK, and you will O about 24-36 hours after.
it's fine to use the apps as a record of what happened. Just do not go off the "high" and "peak" readings they use as they are not using the correct way those terms are meant to be used in natural family planning methods.
Can you post another version of your chart for me to look at?? I need to see the rest of the temp pattern to tell you when O was. I am not sure the OPK coincide with your temps accurately.
Thank you atomic.
In November, I couldn't complete my temp as Thermometer stopped working. I have October one attached. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...989d0cec9d.jpg
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I would need the temps from the month in question. A different month is not helpful because your temps can change, I'm sorry.
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