Help me Atomic!!

No, that would sway blue because it is a sperm safe, conception friendly jelly.

Hello Atomic

I had a smiley face on the "pink clearblue" yesterday morning. My other Clearblue monitor was still showing HIGH. In the evening it had two fat stripes on both clear blue stripes (pink and monitor) and I had my "try".

Today morning both stripes were fat and again a smiley (pink) and a MAX (monitor). Now my question, could it have been enough or would you try again?

My ovulation has been postponed this month due to the swaying, it's so hard to get the moment right. Do you have any other tip regarding Ovus? Frequencies I have dropped everything, I really want to receive quickly.

Well, since everything had shifted my husband had released 24 hours before the attempt, is this bad for the sperm, are there in any case too few?

Sorry for the many questions, I'm a bit confused because I was so fixated on trying and everything has shifted.

One release 24 hours before does not deplete sperm numbers. It takes 7-10 days of back to back release to deplete sperm numbers (and really even then for many men it's completely ineffective)

If you want better chance of conception, have another attempt. If you want better chance of pink, stick with the attempt you've had.

all right, I'll keep trying with one try.

would you rather attempt the LH peak or the cervical mucus peak?

The LH peak. Cervical mucus is useless for us because it can change so dramatically during swaying.

all right, I'll try to have my try at LH Peak. Thank you for everything!

Dear Atomic

Unfortunately it didn't work this cycle, I now try every 3 days.

But my husband did not abstain between the 4 days, could it be that the amount was too small for 1 attempt? (he had published daily)

I wanted to ask you in general what you think of it:

It is always said everywhere you should let go of the desire to have children etc. Do you think that the psyche really plays a big role in getting pregnant or not?

I am dejected every month that it doesn't work out. I'm afraid it won't work as long as I can't let go of the desire for a little girl.

Anyway, if every 3 days doesn't work either, do you have another tip? I don't want to add multiple attempts as long as possible!

Yes, I'd drop having the releases between attempts. Just have him do the every 4 days and not release between.

Wanting a baby does not prevent you from getting pregnant. That is just something people say when they don't know what else to say to people. It's almost like people want to find something to blame the woman for no matter what, so when she does not get pregnant they say "you must have wanted it too much."

The first thing we need to do is give the e4d in the 72 hour pattern WITHOUT having your husband release between times a try. (there IS NO every 3 days. ONLY every 4 days in either the 72 or 96 hour pattern. Saying "every 3 days" only confuses people)

I would try for at least 2 months that way. Then we can talk about adding in another attempt if you want to, or you can try that way forever if you want. You WILL get pregnant eventually.

Oh, maybe that was the mistake. My husband always published a sample in between 96 hours.
would you try again in the 96h or 72h pattern? (this time without my husband's publication). what was more successful?

thanks for your courage Atomic, so I'll keep trying. you just can't turn it off if you want to!

72 hours. We've had good results with 72 hours and it's much higher chance of conception.

Dear Atomic

One more quick question. I now try every 3 days as I said.

One thing still interests me. Does it matter whether the only attempt is on the 1st MAX day or 2nd MAX day? So specifically, is the chance of pink on both days the same?
(slow or fast sperm, although the theory has been refuted).

Do you mean every 72 hours??

Saying "every three days" is too confusing. That's why we only say "every four days" and then specify that as in the 72 hour pattern or 96 hour pattern, because otherwise people mean different things by the number of days and it gets confusing.

Timing doesn't sway, it doesn't work at all, so it would make no difference when your attempt was. Now, it can matter for odds of conception.

When you say "max" do you mean "high" or "peak"? I haven't heard anyone call it "max" before and I want to be sure what you mean exactly.

There is no slow/fast sperm, just as you say it's been debunked.

Yes, I mean every 72 hours, I never try before 72 hours :-)

On my Clearblue Ferility Monitor it mostly shows "3 days HIGH" and then "2 days MAX". Do you know what I mean?

Now my question was on which of the two MAX days the probability of pink is higher. The monitor says that from the "1st MAX", ovulation occurs within 48 hours. I think I mean "great" by MAX.

All right, I still have the Shettles theory in the back of my head and I'm scared the closer to ovulation the more likely blue is but I try to push these thoughts aside and be brave :-)

and does it matter whether my husband abstains for 3 days or 4 days with the attempt at "MAX / SPITZE" because of the sperm volume? Then does this still sway pink?

Thanks! That's exactly the explanation I needed.

What we call "peak" is what you're referring to as "max." So I would have attempt the day of the first "max" unless you want to keep going with Shettles. If you do want Shettles, then you can have attempt on the day of the second "high" reading.

We have not found any of the patterns of abstaining or releasing to really matter for swaying. If your husband abstains for 3 or 4 days that's fine.

what do you think of that?

"Until 12 o'clock after ovulation it is more likely to be a girl again. Since the skin of the egg is thicker and the male sperm do not have enough strength to come through it."

It's complete nonsense.

all right thanks Atomic for replying over and over again.

My ovulation has moved back firmly, which is hopefully a good sign. I now have every 3 days and tomorrow is my "2nd Peak, 2nd MAX" and I'll give it another try.

It makes me very nervous, because you read in so many forums that many women who had sexual intercourse at ovulation resulted in a boy. The Shettles also says yes (abstinence with an attempt at the Peak gives boy).

I'm trying to be brave, keep your fingers crossed for me and thank you again :-)

Shettles has been as debunked as it is possible for something in science to be debunked. We know Dr. Shettles was wrong, we know how and why he was wrong, and scientists have proven beyond a doubt that his claims of X and Y sperm were absolutely incorrect.

All those people on websites who say they ovualted on a certain day - they have no idea. They're doing exactly like you're doing...wondering how their OPK is working, wondering if they'll ovulate on the second Max day or the first, when to have attempt, etc. It just does not work. When scientists actually accurately pinpointed ovulation they found 50-50 boys and girls conceived every cycle day.

hello atomic

unfortunately it didn't work out this month. I dropped every 3 days and all other patterns. My ovulation has postponed a lot and I already have some red mucus 5 days before my period. The temperature is also not really high in the second half of the cycle and it lasted 15 days.

Now my question would be, do you have any advice on how I can positively influence the second half of the cycle? Or should I just let it be? I have already added a small morning meal to my 2 other meals because I lost too much weight (am already quite thin :-))

I think I ovulated but have a little trouble in the second half of the cycle. Maybe you can give me a tip. Thanks. I was hoping I don't have to bother you anymore, sorry :-)

What do you mean you have dropped all other patterns?

As long as the temp is high enough to indicate ovualtion that is all that matters. The spotting beforehand is likely because you are not eating enough fat.

If you have lost too much weight you need to eat more. I want to see you eating a serving of full fat dairy every day, 4-6 eggs a week, and a serving of salmon or red meat every week. Stop weight loss totally. What is your BMI?

I mean "hot baths, shettles etc". we try every 3 days.

I have a BMI of 18.2 to 18.4 depending on the situation. could that be too deep?

I will do this, thank you very much for your advice with the food! is there anything else I can take to optimize it?

yes, that BMI is below my cutoff of 18-5. I would not lose any more weight and add in those sources of fat as I described to be sure you're getting enough.

all right, gonna add your food tips. I did not lose weight consciously, nor am I very hungry - it just happened that way.

my skin has deteriorated, isn't that a bad sign about testosterone? that would fluctuate strongly blue?

You can't tell what your testosterone is doing from your skin. There are many reasons why you have breakouts and testosterone is actually not even one of the main ones.

Tell me what you're eating on an average day and I'll tell you what to tweak.

2 coffees in the morning with a little milk and coconut water.

Always different at lunchtime: a large portion of noodles / rice / pasta with a little sauce, some vegetables or salad and sometimes some chicken and some chocolate for dessert.

A coffee with little milk in the afternoon, then in the evening mostly rice with cream cheese or bread with butter and honey, a little cheese or cream cheese and some wine.

now and then a kiwi or apple for dinner (I always forget fruits :-))

At the weekend I usually eat brunch (braid and butter milk etc and in the evening pizza or raclette, or risotto or some meat with side dishes)

have now added a glass of whole milk and the eggs. Can I improve something?

Another question for me is adding cardio to stressful because of the time. but am always on my feet all day and often go for a walk can i leave it that way?

do you have totals for fat, protein, and calories?

For people who are really on their feet at work all day we waive the exercise.

I tried to control it for a few weeks with an app and try to follow your recommendations on protein and fat. I'm also trying to get at least 1500 calories a day. Are the foods I eat (as listed in the previous post) basically ok? I'll see that I eat more of these foods and my BMI goes up again. Thank you dear Atomic.

The foods are fine but it is irrelevant because the amount you are eating controls the protein, fat, and calories. Take an average day and add it up and then I can tell you if it's ok.

thanks atomic i will use my app to check that i get enough nutrients and that i can adhere to their quantities, this is probably the easiest.

Since the LE diet I have had increased pain around the time of ovulation. I never had that before, not even with my son. I've read that these pains are swaying blue. am I doing something wrong?

my doctor predicted ovulation on the left for this month, does this mean anything?

another question. can i drink the coffee in the morning if only 12 o'clock have passed since the last meal or is it best not to drink coffee until noon because of the blood sugar?

Ovulation pains do not predict gender. Whenever we change our hormones we see changes in our symptoms. So if you never had O pain and got boys it may be a good sign to start having them when swaying. Or it may mean nothing. Many of us get worse O pains as we get older.

Some people say that Oing from the left is more pink friendly.

You can drink coffee whenever you want as long as it doesn't have any sugar in it.

great thanks atomic.

my ovulation has shifted backwards again. my doctor told me today that my ovulation is on Friday / Saturday (follicle is 22mm today)

my husband is celibate for the third day today. tomorrow it would be 4 days of abstinence, we will make our attempt. I hope so much that the 4 days of instinence don't fluctuate blue. can you give me some courage and answer quickly, are the 4 days still ok?

i am so grateful to you for everything. I know if it should be a boy again I did my best and then nature decided :-)

Yes, 4 days abstain is fine. Good luck and pink dust headed your way!

Dear Atomic

I'm so sorry to bother you again. Today I went to check whether I was ovulating. The follicle is at 29mm and the doctor says ovulation should be triggered. I was totally overwhelmed and first said no.

The uterine lining is great.

I'm sorry, I'm a little desperate and that's why I'm writing to you because you always answer so nicely. Maybe you can help me My gynecologist did nothing about me and did not explain anything to me. I'm really sad :(

How can this happen? Can I check this cycle off? What can I do better that the egg will jump?

My ovulation would have been left this month, will it be right next month and this sways blue?

Thanks for your patience Atomic

Did you do the trigger shot?? If not, do.

I'm not sure why you are overwhelmed and saying no? It's ok to do the trigger, it doesn't hurt anything.

The egg can still ovulate on its own but it would be better to do trigger and be sure of it.

Ovulation does not alternate sides. that has been totally debunked. There is every chance you will O from the left again, or it could be the right but that doesn't mean you would have a boy.

I said no :(

aren't these hormones that I get injected? isn't that harmful? carcinogenic or something else? I assume that the egg did not crack because of the swaying. or I hope it has no bad causes. I'm only 32 years old. I am a somewhat scared person and always fear the worst.

can an egg with 29mm still jump naturally?

would you dare to try again? (last attempt 2.5 days ago)

So then you would do the injection in the next cycle (if it doesn't jump again)?

Millions of women do those shots. They are approved by the FDA as safe. It's just the hormone your body makes naturally. The only way those shots are harmful are those people who use the hormone for weight loss when they are being injected with them for months on end. A single trigger shot is not harmful.

No, the egg did not fail to be ovulated because you were swaying. We have had thousands of people on here swaying and they did not have that problem.

There are a few reasons why your body might hang onto an egg. The biggest one is taking ibuprofen or aspirin around ovulation. If you are taking either of these things I would not take them around ovulation next time.

While it is still possible the egg will release on its own the trigger would have guaranteed it.

I didn't use any aspirin, ibuprofen, no nutritional supplements or anything. that's why i was so surprised that the egg didn't crack. Just like my doctor, because I have a fairly regular cycle with normal periods. And as I said, the uterine mucus is also wonderfully built up. I just wonder why this can be. but you will probably not know that either :-) If you have a tip I would be grateful.

I feel very, very good and healthy that's why I don't think it's my BMI or anything else if I'm honest. The Clearblue showed 5 days high and 2 days MAX that was irritating but otherwise everything was normal.

I am glad that you say that, because I always know when you say something that you have researched and that gives me courage again, thanks Atomic !!!!

It's probably just one of those things that happens. I would definitely have an attempt if you haven't already to be sure you are in with an attempt if the egg does pop soon.

Thanks again for your support Atomic they are just great.

You always say you should keep your estrogen low (with the diet) and testosterone (make yourself less fertile). But I've read that if the estrogen is too low, then testosterone takes over. But that would be counterproductive to fluctuate pink? Am I making a mistake in reasoning?

I only ask stupidly because it makes sense for me (blemished skin since dieting, failure to ovulate despite regular periods).

My question, would you do something different about the diet or continue like this and just make sure that I adhere to the quantities specified (protein, fat and carbohydrates)?

Or would you recommend something else?

Do I still have a chance to sway pink? Or am I a person with too much testosterone and can I put up with it right away? :-)

I seriously doubt you have high testosterone. I very much suspect the opposite problem is true, you have cut back too far and have low estrogen because of that (and in that case your testosterone is also going to be very low). That is why you are not ovulating regularly.

There are many reasons hormonally why you get blemishes. It is far more likely your skin issues are caused by other effects of the diet and nothing to do with testosterone.

The ONLY time you can have high testosterone driving estrogen down is in moderate to severe cases of PCOS. I think you have a different problem in that you weren't eating enough. (I do not know if you did not release the egg this month because of that. I doubt it because I have not ever seen this happen before, even in people dieting quite strictly.)

I want you to just do as I tell you without doing any additional research. The truth is, no one knows why swaying works. There are many theories, but we don't know which ones are true. So people end up getting worried about theories instead of just mimicking what has worked for people.

Please just continue doing diet being sure you are eating IN the limits and not beneath them. Even if you wanted to eat upper limits that would be good.