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Ok. I like everything and do drink kombucha but not homemade- the tasty kind with juice in it. Trying to eat a wide variety of things now, and actually love to try all different foods. The HE diet is quite liberating. I feel bad for people on the LE diet [emoji23]
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Today
Huge bowl of Oats and whole yogurt
Tea w half and half and date syrup
Apple nuts and seeds and dried fruit
4 eggs in a ton of coconut oil
Broccoli
Coconut water
Cashews
Avocado
Matcha w half and half and date syrup
Eggplant (lol the vegetable… although probably both kinds [emoji38])
Salad baked beans and some elk
Berries and peanut butter
Vitamins
The only
Vitamin I added was vitamin D
Rode 4 horses today plus chores and did stretching… still sore from weight lifting on Sunday!
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yes, you can use the strips or fertility monitor to see if you're getting close. Or, if it makes you too nervous, you can always just skip that step. That having been said, we've seen WAY more accidental conceptions with people trying to skip it and then getting carried away, than those who were deliberately trying to have sex out of the fertile window (I think because the former group just wasn't paying attention to what was going on).
Yep that's the thing, it's a risk for probably little to no benefit so I'd not go that route personally unless you really believe it to be beneficial.
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Many people do find the HE Diet challenging because they're light eaters normally. We all just tend to want to stick with what we're used to!
Diet looks spot on. If you need to drop anything, let it be the dried fruit as you don't need dried fruit in addition to the carbs in the apple and the nuts/seeds.
So far I haven’t gained any weight but if I need to I could drop it or sub in a protein for the dried fruit. It is goji berries, black and white mulberries (no added sugar) are those ok or too weird? I’m trying to keep it lots of variety but not TOO weird in case some of the weird stuff has megadoses of stuff in it!
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It's fine to continue if you like them. It's just that due to old holdovers from the "mineral diets" people treat dry fruit as a MUST HAVE for blue, and it is just basically pure sugar. So anyone having trouble gaining too much weight and eating dried fruit, it's not necessary and is a really easy thing to drop (esp. if you're eating nuts, seeds, or apple instead as that's all carbs). Fine to continue, and goji berry and mulberry should be good!
The only thing you need to worry about with megadoses is fortified foods and vitamins. Our bodies are great at taking just what they need from food, it's only when we take it in a highly concentrated form we have issues.
Ok good to know. I only have about 1/4c which I think is around 100 cals. I’m just trying to hold steady on weight not gain or lose. But if I need to up my protein I could sub in those cals for something else, but wanted to add in whatever benefit from the nutrients in those berries too.
Did the ovulation strip last night so we could dtd without pullout [emoji23] of course negative as baby is only 7 months. I just don’t want to get preg till she is at least 11/12 months old.
It’s starting to get hot and sunny here so trying to get out in the sun as much as possible!
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2/3 scrambled eggs
Giant bowl of oatmeal
Tea / cream / date syrup
Pistachios
Cucumbers/ cheese / carrots/ hummus
Black eyed peas
Matcha / whole milk / date syrup
Sweet potato/ baked beans/ veggies w butter
Salad
Black bean brownie
Peanut butter
I didn’t get meat today but tried to keep the protein and fat up
Supplements same but got methyl folate instead of folic acid
Outside riding and doing farm chores
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Perfect, that's fine!! As long as you're not looking for something to cut to prevent weight loss it's all good to continue with a little dried fruit. It's just that so many people think they MUST eat it when they really don't have to, and it is very very calorically dense.
In addition to the OPK strips be on the lookout for any signs fertility is returning - increased libido, EWCM, ovulation pain (which can come even 7-10 days before O) and if you're noticing anything like that be sure to use protection even if OPK is negative. False neg on OPK are possible!
Totally fine to miss a day on meat!! I did that with some frequency when I got my boys but was always eating some other protein food - eggs, dairy, beans, nuts - instead.
Oh I will be mindful of that! And be sure to keep my HE diet going strong in case we have an oopsie!!!
Oatmeal and Greek whole yogurt and a few dried berries
Tea date syrup and cream
A few mixed nuts
Eggs green veggies and a drink of coconut water and a bit of sweet potato
Matcha date syrup in whole milk
Couple nuts
Little bit of chicken, asparagus, beets, green beans in bacon grease and salad w cheese
Going to try to fit in some peanut butter and berries
Vit D/ probiotic/ prenatal/ 1 calcium/ folic acid
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Tea/syrup/ cream
Oats/ Yogurt
Nuts/ seeds
Broccoli/ eggs/ apple
Matcha/ milk
Couple nuts
Salad/ cheese
Couple bites of eggplant parm
Venison
Peanut butter and berries
Same supplements
Hopefully not getting too repetitive, dinner I try to be a little more diverse at least [emoji2372]
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No as long as you're happy with it and are eating a wide array of foods (including healthy fats) and protein + carbs at every meal and snack, it's all good.
Tea/ cream/ syrup
Oats/ yog/ almonds
Cheese/ eggs in coconut oil/ broc/ peas/ swt peps
Salmon/ sweet potato/ Brussels sprouts and salad w nuts/ lentils - everything cooked in coconut oil and grassfed butter
Berries and a bit of peanut butter
Wt 144
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Tea/ cream/ date syrup
Oats/ almonds/ seeds
Cheese/ fruit
Beans/ butternut squash/ cauliflower
Matcha/ milk/ date syrup
Asparagus/ Chicken/ Salad/ butternut squash
berries peanut butter
Vit D/ prenatal/ omega/ folic acid/ probiotic
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Tea/ date syrup/ milk
Eggs in coconut oil/melon
Apple/ nuts
Butternut squash chili
Milk/ matcha/ date syrup
Pistachios
Beans/ salad/ salmon
Peanut butter/ berries
Wt 144
D/ probiotic/ prenatal/ cal/ folate
Weights today in addition to normal riding/ farm work
Ordered a book called the respect effect about mothering boys to give me direction with my soon to be 3 yo as he grows and God willing my next boy. It made me realize even more what a treasure sons are.
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Tea/ milk / date syrup
Oats/ Wmg yog
Nuts/ dk choc
Cheese/ cauliflower
Matcha/ milk/ date syrup
Salmon & venison pad thai
Salad
Berries and nut butter
Supplements
Tea/ milk/ date syrup
Oats/ wmg yog
Brussels sprouts/ 4 eggs/ pear
Match / milk/ syrup
Nuts/ cheese/ dk choc
Few bites of homemade pizza
Salad w more cheese
cookie made w cashew flour
Berries / peanut butter
Supplements/ 20 mins of 10lb Weights
The teas I’m using at least a cup and a half of whole milk and also adding coconut milk in the afternoon. Not keeping a good log of calories but weight is staying the same and always looking for protein and lots of good fats and then a little bit of carbs. Sometimes feel hungry (and eat) but never starving. Only grain I’m eating is oatmeal hope that’s ok, and still EBF 7mo DD throughout the day and night so no signs of cycle return yet which is good.
Also having a couple cups of “so delicious “ organic unsweetened coconut milk is that one ok? I just don’t want to be drinking 4 cups of dairy milk a day but if the coconut milk is not a good idea I can cut it out!
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Why do you not want to be drinking four cups of milk a day?
I just didn’t know if that was too much of one thing?
I’m also eating whole milk Greek yogurt/ kefir and cheese nearly every day. Is that too much dairy?
Tea/ date syrup/ milk
Oats/ yog
Apple/ cheese/ 2 eggs/ broccoli
Tea/ date syrup/ coconut milk
Cabbage/ beef/ sweet potato/ salad
Blueberries/ chocolate/ peanut butter
Supps
Tea/ date syrup/ milk
2 eggs in butter/ melon
Pistachios/ almonds/ cashews
cheese/ cauliflower/ chocolate
Matcha/ milk/ date syrup/ gelatin
Salad/ beans/ chicken/ cheese berries
Supps
Tea/ syrup/ milk
Oat/ yog
Nuts
3 eggs/ grapefruit/ broccoli/ baked beans
Matcha/ gelatin/ date syrup/ milk & coconut milk
Veggies and dips
Chicken/ baked beans/ salad/ cake ice cream/ berries/ kefir
Supps
Unfortunately, I love food and once I start eating for the day I like to keep snacking and going and going. Like a pig!
I’ve been doing weights 3 days/ week in addition to daily 2/3 horses ridden plus farm chores. I will add in 2 more days once I get a bit stronger I was just too sore after to be any good for anything!
Also we are just dtd unprotected every 2/3 days I am checking strips to be cautious but I don’t think they’re that reliable so I suppose we are playing with fire [emoji23]
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No, it's fine to have 4 or more servings of dairy daily. The limitations on dairy intake come from (probably misguided) concerns over heart disease, which will be way down the line in terms of things you should worry about in the here and now because that takes decades - and a lot of OTHER bad lifestyle choices aside from dairy - to develop.
We have seen a high number of opposites in women hitting the milk replacers the hardest (I think because they're getting a lot of Omega 6 vegetable fats which are in the milk replacers, although the So Delicious one is just pure coconut and is the best option if you choose to go that route). I do think it's best to stick with dairy. If you want to use the coconut milk I'd stick to 1 serving a day, and that brand only as some of the other ones do have added veg oil. (and coconut milk, like the kind that is for cooking, is fine, as is coconut oil)
Absolutely fine to be limiting grains. Grains (and sugary treats) are what cause blue swayers to gain massively and while they're ok for a sway to eat them, it's equally fine to keep them limited as long as you're getting small amounts of carbs with every meal and snack like we already talked about.
No need to log cals or anything, you're doing great. The tracking stuff is more important for pink swayers and for blue swayers who either are prone to gaining weight or else are those who want to keep their cal intake absolutely minimal to prevent gaining weight LOL.
Also just be keeping an eye out for any signs and symptoms of your fertility returning. Most of us will see some changes in terms of feeling more "randy" as Austin Powers would say, increased CM, ovulation pains, breast tenderness coming back before we are fertile and at that point you should start paying closer attention and possibly even using protection if you're not ready to start trying yet.
Everything looking fabulous! Keep it up!
Alright, I’ll stick to dairy milk. I bought a full case of coconut milk from Costco ( So delicious organic unsweetened) so if you think it’s ok I’ll add that to my matcha in addition to the cups of dairy milk for some extra saturated fat without many cals. Not doing any other milk replacers absolutely not. That’s how I got my last girl! Just thought coconut milk may be good for extra saturated fat. I can always wean off of so much dairy AFTER giving birth (re heart health or whatever…) Also I have gained 6 lbs [emoji23] I think it’s my body getting used to everything. I cut out the dried fruit right after you had mentioned it so I don’t think that’s it. I think next is to cut the date syrup since I’m having oats anyways. And just use a little in afternoon matcha. But also it is hard to say if I actually gained 6 pounds or not since my weight can fluctuate anywhere between 140 and 146.
I don’t mind getting preg soon but if you think that it is better to wait then I’ll wait. Baby will be 8 months soon. I’m almost 35 so better sooner than later but not if it’s a big sway pink. I know I can have babies after 35 but really afraid of genetic problems after 4 of my close friends and relatives had genetic problems with their last babies and they were over 35. On the flip side, if it’s REALLY too pink friendly and you just don’t want me to chance it too close I’ll happily wait. What’s another 6 months? Better than having a girl and THEN AFTER THAT STILL having to try for another boy at what, 38?? [emoji23]
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Yes absolutely a serving (or even two really) a day is fine as long as you're still getting lots of other animal-based fats.
We do seem to find better results after at least a year gap between kiddos. For reasons I don't understand, there is a large group of blue swayers who are wanting very small age gaps between kids (I have a massive thread on it here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum...t=blue+swayers) and I think it's best to wait possibly even till 18 months. If that doesn't work for you, of course we just sway in other ways! no one's sway is ideal and we all have things that are just non-negotiable, and that is fine!
I remember reading that thread and being like “oh sh*t that’s totally me!!” My reason is that this baby is soooo super easy and also I want a small age gap between my kids, especially if this one is a boy between him and my son who is about to be 3 so they are close. I also think that when people have older girls they already have a lot of help, at least that’s true for me. My oldest is almost 6 and she helps with the baby constantly. She is “her” baby!
One year or after is IDEAL for me and what I’m aiming for, but dtd unprotected it could happen sooner no matter how much I watch for fertility signs. I am testing with a strip before we dtd every time I know they’re not that reliable but it could be at least somewhat helpful. It doesn’t help that DH is always very very interested in dtd and knows how to get me in the mood (playing on the floor with the kids/ changing diapers/ cleaning/ plus being a tall muscular man **swoon**) so it’s hard to tell when I’m actually Randy or have been wooed into being Randy [emoji1787]
He is not riding a bike or doing any cardio just a few push ups every day. And he’s back eating meat and dairy and taking his mens one a day.
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Hmm, that's a good point - could it be that older sisters are better helpers than boys are?? I hadn't considered that aspect! My daughter, despite being the youngest, is MUCH more helpful around the house (and thoughtful of things I need, etc.) Thanks, I'll add that to the list of possibilities!
When you do test, be sure to be testing not right before DTD but after lunch each day. This is because that's when the hormone in your urine peaks, and so you'll know at that time if you're surging. I'm worried you may miss the positive if you're testing at night and may have surged, and will DTD unbeknownst to them that they're surging!!
Oh and if your husband is always ready and raring, that's a great sign for a blue sway. Some of our blue swayers don't have that working for them and it's harder to get in the number of attempts we like to see. :)
Oh great to know about testing! I’ll do that because
I’d really like to wait at least a year to be less pink swaying and also when I nurse during pregnancy my nips get so sensitive and I want to keep nursing her as long as possible!
Yes oh wow are girls so helpful and motherly too. She is a huge help at 5 she can “watch” her 2 yo brother and 7 month old sister and entertain them! Also keeps me abreast of danger/ poop etc. She is a great help. My boy is very sweet and loving and no drama but he definitely does not understand danger and is a daredevil to the max. Like climbing trees and jumping off of the top of fences and driving his 4 wheeler onto car trailers… if I had 2 of him I’d be DONE! His older sister has for sure kept him alive so far [emoji23] Me and my horse friends always joke you can’t have just colts you have to have mare to watch them for you!!
Oh yes hubby is always ready to go! And all 3 of mine were one hit wonders in case that helps our case. He is really looking forward to another baby even more so than any time before but isn’t rushing me, just last two times he was so busy growing the family business that he was too hyped on that to focus on anything else. Now he is much more relaxed and making a lot more money doing a lot less footwork now he just bosses everyone around [emoji23]
I have been trying to do weights and standing row machine 30 mins every 2 days but I was getting so sore between that and riding 2 hours/ day you think I am exercising too much? Probably just not stretching enough? I want to get the muscle mass on! Channeling my inner Arnold…
That is what I say about our third boy all the time - if he'dve been our first, he would have been our last! (not really but kinda LOL) Great kid but very high maintenance - and interestingly, he was the one I was inadvertently swaying the bluest with - and I worked on a farm then so doing very much the same sort of exercise you are! Even our first son was pretty wild and crazy - I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong with him, but he was just very active. #2 was SUPER mellow and #4 was somewhere in between.
Let's give it another day in between the workouts. So make it every 3 days, twice a week, and see how you get on with that. We do make exceptions for people who have super active jobs (and like I mentioned above, when I got pregnant with DS 3 I worked at a dog kennel and farm doing very much the type of chores you do, for 4 and sometimes even as much as 6 hours a day...so even if you have to give the exercise up, you're still doing a LOT of the type of activity that may sway blue for you.)
It is very normal to feel soreness after working out though. That's just your muscles growing, but it CAN interfere with your ability to do day to day stuff and we don't want that. Let's try to find a happy medium where you're not dying and are still getting some training in on the muscles you don't use day to day.
Lol!! It’s crazy I used to run 10+ miles a day AND do a full hour of p90x or crossfit 6 days a week, do tough mudders and sling 50lb bags of feed like they were nothing! Used to be so muscular and fit! Now after three kids and old age I’m getting sore working out 4 days for 1/2 hour!!!!
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I hear that - this winter I sprained my wrist crocheting too much LOL!! o.O
So this seems like splitting hairs but is cottage cheese and yogurt ok if the ingredients list also have nonfat milk? They’re both labeled “whole milk”.
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Yes those usually have some "nonfat" added for stabilizers but as long as it says "whole" on the label, and has like 5% milkfat or thereabouts it's all good.
Tea/ syrup/ milk
Oats/ yog
Nuts
Cheese/ apple
3 eggs/ broccoli/ beans/dk choc
Matcha/ syrup/ gelatin/ milk/ coconut milk
Beets/ green beans/ beef w cabbage and tomatoes in coconut oil/ Salad
Berries
Supps/ standing rower
Tea/ date syrup / milk
Oats/ yog
Almonds/ pistachios
2 eggs/ cheese/ cauliflower/ grapefruit/ dk choc
Matcha/ coconut and reg milk/
gelatin / date syrup
Chili (elk meat & beans)/ swt potato skins/ salad
Berries and cashews
Supps/ weights
Tea/ date syrup/ milk
Oats/ yog
2 eggs/ cauliflower/ grapefruit
Matcha/ gelatin/ dsyrup/ milks
Nuts/ seeds
Salad/ baked beans/ chuck roast/ green beans
Berries/ nut butter
Supps
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Tea/ date syrup/ milk
Oats/ wm kefir
Nuts/ 2 eggs/ cauliflower/ spaghetti squash/ 1/3 clif bar
Matcha/ gelatin/ milks/ syrup
Venison/ chili/ broccoli/ guac/ onions & mushrooms in butter
Salad/ berries
Supps
Same amount of farm work. Lots of sun
Tea/ date syrup/ milk
Kefir/ oats/ pistachios/ almonds/ cashews
1/2 peanut butter/ oat/ coconut bar
Brussels sprouts/ cauliflower / cottage cheese/ apple
Matcha/ syrup/ milks / gelatin
Venison/ swt potato/ salad/ lentils
Berries / peanut butter
Supps
Weights today 1/2 hour
Too many eggs? I figured 2-3 / day was good. What’s thoughts on gelatin since it’s not a “food”? I know you can make jello etc but just wondering if it’s ok as I’m really suspicious of non food items. I drink lots of powders and gallons of almond milk with my girls! None with my boy only ate real foods. I’m going to cut down on date syrup in my teas since I eat oatmeal anyways so I can use those cals for animal fat and protein. I did weight and wasn’t cripplingly sore the next day [emoji23] so I’ll add in a day a week. Plus have the normal farm work but that’s not cardio just lifting and riding and steady movement.
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Nope, not at all. I often ate 2 eggs every day when I was TTC my boys.
Gelatin/Jello is fine. It has a lot of amino acids in it so it's believed to be a building block of protein and in turn, muscle.
Your exercise rate is great! Keep doing what works for YOU above all else.
Hi Thefinalcountdown congratulations on your beautiful baby boy [emoji170] I’ve read your entire thread and writing down all your meals [emoji28] not too sure if we’re going to go for another baby yet but I’m already getting my research done [emoji3526]Quote:
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