I think the majority of stats are around 60-65% actually, not just the OWT ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
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I think the majority of stats are around 60-65% actually, not just the OWT ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
Sorry yes that's kind of what I meant, but didn't explain right. I think the OWT ones are linked to the 'real' methods in that most pimple that put a pink outfit under their bed, also do LE or take aspirin or time frequency KWIM?Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
If I can get 60-65% chance of a girl I'll be so happy. Without swaying I would have had 95% chance of a boy, with all the things I did naturally. So that's a big sway in the other direction. As we get more stats it will become clearer what things are working better and worse too.
Thanks again for all your amazing work!
Whaaaaaaaat, I thought the Soy Iso swayed boy? Also does anyone have a link to Zanacals sway? I couldn't find it. Thanks!!
Becca - it seems the jury is still out on whether soy sways blue or pink. Personally I believe it varies a bit from person to person. I think soy was a big reason why I conceived DS back in 2011 when I ate primarily vegan so I completely nixed soy from my diet for a good 4 months before my attempt. For other people soy seems to sway pink. Personally I'd stay away from soy if you're swaying pink as it's a good protein source and you need to watch out for that while swaying pink. Good luck!
What about the Soy Iso pills?Quote:
Originally Posted by BabyGirl4Me
This essay may help you: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...-girl-boy.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Becca.lms
Trust me, I've read it. Results are just conflicting! My son just sat on me to fart...I need a girl. Haha thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by BabyGirl4Me
I think it sways pink, but I suspect it may be the type of thing where if you do it with an HE Diet, it may help sway blue, and if you do it with an LE Diet, it may help sway pink, for reasons that are too involved for me to get into now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Becca.lms
Ladies soy iso and soy in soy milk or dietary products like soy yoghurt are NOT the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BabyGirl4Me
Soy iso stats aren't great anyway now but it has previously been believed to sway girl. Soy milk and yoghurt etc would sway boy due to the high level of nutrients in soy milk, and fat and protein. Unless taken carefully within le diet limits.
I had two boys drinking TONS of soy milk by the way. But took soy iso for 3 months while TTC this time before starting clomid.
stats updated in first post
Thank you Rainbow flower!
My sway is over and the waiting game is on to see if it worked. Seeing the stats in plain writing like you have done gives me reassurance that I did many things to help swings things in favour of a girl for me.
I still love your ongoing dedication to this rainbow, thanks so much for updating when there is new data.
aww thanks, I get an email whenever someone adds a record so I'm happy to go and update it now and again when we've had a few new ones arriving
Thanks so much for doing these stats! These numbers make me happy when when looking at all I used in my girl sway!!! Thanks again for putting in the time and effort! Blessings!
I'm new to the board and to this but the New Moon statistics are making me sad. I ovulate almost exactly on the full moon every month. It looks like one of the strongest sways on here. :(
thank you!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
PLEASE don't read much into that. Once you start to sway, your O starts to do weird stuff and you may end up Oing on a totally different day anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfect3
Does it really make a ton of sense that the moon is swaying gender that strongly??
This spreadsheet is so awesome. I also went through and did a check for timing (cutoff) +just ONE attempt, and found the following:
OV/pos OPK => 16/25 = 64%
2-3 days =>7/10 = 70%
O+12 => 6/7 = 85%
4-5 days => 1/1 ==>we all know what that percentage is, but with just one of these, this is not really worth calculating!
Again, I just want to point out that having spent lo these many years on the boards by now, there is no way of knowing when people actually ovulated. Even people with a high level of expertise are having trouble calculating O (me! I totally missed O with DS 4 and with DD I thought I had Oed 2 or 3 days later than I really did and both times I was shocked at my ultrasound).
So maybe it was a cutoff, maybe it wasn't, maybe it was O+12, maybe it wasn't.
I really think that the stats reflect the following "truth" of swaying - the people who do the strictest sways, IF they can get pg doing that, are the ones who are the most likely to do timing. Strict sways succeed more often than relaxed ones - except for the people who start off TOO strict, can't get pg, and then end up dropping everything all at once. :) That skews the stats too.
The stats are great but please ladies, don't read too much into them. The best data we have at our disposal shows 50-50 boys and girls conceived every day of the cycle.
completely agree, although have to point out that ultrasound dates can be wrong by up to a week too. With DS2 it told me that we had conceived him before we'd even DTD that cycle (and we know our DTD dates for definite) so obviously not possible ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Well, I would never secondguess your experience but my understanding is that it depends on when the ultrasound was done. If it's early on in pregnancy then it's considered extremely accurate because babies are on a strict timeline of development, and they're not going off size per se but off of the presence or absence of certain markers that are only around for a particular stage of development.
I certainly believe there could be exceptions to this but for most people, it's more likely that they just oed at a different time than when they thought they did, KWIM??
Later in pregnancy then the differences start to creep in because it's no longer about development, it's about size and weight and so genetic variation begins to matter more and more.
nope actually the early ones are LESS likely to be accurate because the baby is so small and there's more room for error - even mismeasuring by a mm could result in a very different date being given (seeing as this is done by a human being clicking where the body starts/ends), including if baby isn't completely side on which is hard to judge before they have arms. The dating scans are done when it's considered to be *most* accurate - baby is still growing at a steady and fairly consistent rate yet is big enough for user error on the measurements to matter less, but even that can be up to a week out and by that point you do also get a small bit of variation in baby size for gestation too. All of this assumes that the technology is also perfectly accurate. They say a good tech can get the date right to within a couple of days if done around the 12 week mark.
and after the 13 week mark genetics and baby health comes more into play and baby growth rates vary so that's why they don't change your dates after that point if you have a scan
the only way to know for sure when you ovulate(d) is to have daily ultrasounds of the follicle around the time of ovulation to see when it releases. Everything else isn't actually very accurate
Ok, well, sorry that I was in a hurry, I am not referring to the VERY early ultrasounds where the baby is, like, invisible.
Studies at 12-13 weeks gestation (meaning, the "early" ultrasounds, because most women have one at 12-13 weeks and then the "late" ultrasound a 20 weeks) are considered extremely accurate. 97-100% accurate in studies. So I stand by what I said previously, the majority of cases the early ultrasounds are far more accurate than someone who just thinks they know when they ovulated, because even people with a high level of expertise can be wrong on that. Again, I'm not saying that was YOUR experience, because there are certainly techs out there who make mistakes and have bad days sometimes. But it was MY experience twice over where I was pretty darn sure I knew when I had gotten pg, and then surprised at the ultrasound and thought back and was like, oh yeah, we did BD then. And sure enough, both babies came in the time frame that was predicted by the ultrasound and not my dates.
I got an early ultrasound done and it was correct down to the day when I got my +opk. Scan wasat 10 weeks.
Hi Rainbow Flower. Just updating as I know people were waiting for more clomid sway results to come in. I had a baby girl last week after clomid + LE and other stuff. My sway is in my sig - hope it helps. Thanks again for compiling these wonderful spread sheets - they really helped me in my "season of waiting" and am sure they will help many people.
Congrats Hoping! I think there have been a few clomid opposites lately too, I hope there are enough soon so spreadsheet can be updated again. Thanks for posting!
I'm interested in the new stats too! I'll keep stalking this thread for updates when you get time to do it. I am sure it's a big task to get it all in with little ones at home.
if you open the spreadsheet the stats at the top (and on the diets tab) are up to date at the moment
Rainbow flower- you are a saint! Thank you so much for updating this!
The soy has good results! Is that when given to dh or taken by dw?
Rainbow you are amazing! Thankyou
those were all taken by DW at the start of the cycle in a similar way to clomid, it's soy isoflavones not dietary soyQuote:
Originally Posted by carameline
aww thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
I am so glad I stumbled on this thread. It shows me what options are out there and what seems to work better than others. Thank you so much for all of the work that was put into collaborating the stats.
This is great! Appreciate whoever did this. How often is it updated?
I get an email when new sways are added to it, so update it periodically when a few new ones come inQuote:
Originally Posted by Raining
RainbowFlower, YOU ROCK!!! :)
So reading this, it sounds like getting pregnant 3 weeks after my chemical could work in my favor for pink!!! Can't wait to let you guys know!!!
Oh great. Thanks for doing this!Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
just updated the stats on the main page because I hadn't done it in nearly 3 months
NOTE new statistics for "1 attempt + J&D", BCP, Plan, average TTC cycles, TTC >3 cycles, and TTC <= 3 cycles
just wanted to say thank you so much for this, it is sooooo helpful!...and I agree you are amazing!!!
:bowdown:
xxx
Awesome work!!! Thanks again! Sure make a 17 week pregnant lady feel good to read these stats! There is hope it might be a girl! Will find out in 3 weeks!