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Go off the last one. It may not be perfect but at least it gives you something to aim at.
Thank you very much Atomic!!!
how are we doing ladies??
I'm on CD 26 and am finally O-ing yay! yesterday my opk was getting darker and today the test line showed up way before the control. I really wish o-ing wasn't so painful. The cramps and backache kill me. We did the deed 3 nights in a row skipped last night because we were both so tired and fell asleep waiting on the baby to fall asleep. Now I'm trying to decide if we should bd tonight. hmmmm
When in doubt, BD.
thanks atomic :) we did :)
Hi, Are you asking when in the cycle you can take them? Usually AF - O and then you can taper off in the 2 WW and stop if you get a BFP. I took it to conceive my 2nd DS and I took it through the 2 WW and then tapered it off after my BFP. I have been taking Vitex for months now to get AF back since I still nurse my son, though just once a day. I finally got PPAF back yesterday at 20.75 months!
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Originally Posted by ThreeMenAndALAdy
I'm now a lazy swayer, been doing the diet since last august, have tried every supplement going and now really can't be bothered with most of it. I just want to be pregnant!
I'm a pretty lazy swayer swaying for blue right now. But I would like to add that I had quite an opposite lifestyle, just like blue when I had my girl in 2005. I recently added some weight that time and used to have loads of red meat and bananas. the only thing that I had was a very relaxed attitude having just finished a exam. So I'm pretty confused how to plan my blue sway....
Annita, most people get both boys and girls without ever giving it a moment's thought! sending you all my blue dust!
Thanks atomic. The only thing I am focusing is probably the diet though may be not even the half of it. I don't know about the LE diet, But I am trying to eat more boy foods throughout the day, though I don't count the calories.
I would like to add my eating habits and take suggestions from all:
Supplements: Folic acid, vit c, EPO, vit e, and during the 2ww I stop the EPO and add Vit B containing B6
I eat a lot during the whole day because I am always hungry so please don't mind my bothering you with so much food:)
7 am: A big bowl of rolled oats with 1 banana, dried pineapples, dates and almonds with full cream milk. and green tea with lemon
10 am: 1 cucumber and boiled egg salad. and green tea with lemon
1 pm: a cup of red lentil soup(heard it boosts testosterone) and a bowl of veggies and a protein( usually salmon or tilapia)
3 pm: a banana and a bowl of pineapple (yes I love them)
5 pm: peanut butter and whole grain toasts with green tea.
7 pm: beef stew with beef balls and loads of veggies like tomatoes, zucchinis and other seasonal ones as I like them fresh.
10 pm: yes! I again eat! i eat a cup of rice with spicy beef curry..
Please any suggestions and ADDitions are very very welcome...
Ohh I forgot to add the 1 coconut water and lemon water which I drink throughout the day...
For blue swayers, it's the HE (High Everything) Diet - LE is for pink swayers so that should help clear up some confusion. You should be aiming to eat more calories than you were when you conceived your daughter(s) but you don't have to stuff yourself, 2000-2500 cals is what works for most people. Also, try to get 90 g of protein and 9 servings of fruit and vegetables a day. Eat protein and carbs at every meal and snack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Annita2003
Your diet looks quite good! Great job. it's a good idea to use iodized salt rather than sea salt in cooking becasue many brands of sea salt have no iodine.
With the supps, first of all how much folic acid?? Take at least 2000 mcg broken up into several doses and taken throughout the day because that's how your body absorbs it best.
I would rather see you take a good multivitamin rather than the C, E, and B separately. It should have some iron (18 mg) and 8-15 mg zinc in it as well.
I would also suggest that you take a fish oil supplement throughout your cycle in addition to taking the EPO AF-O only. So take fish oil every day of the month and then EPO AF-O only.
Never start and stop B vitamins. Take them throughout the entire month, that's safer for your body and also how they work the best anyway. If you are taking the B6 for your luteal phase, take it all month long. It needs to build up so your body can use it.
Thanks a lot AS, I would quickly make the changes and let you know.....
Hi, I think I probably fit in here too! I'm following the diet, not to a t but not doing too bad. I'm naturally very slim so not noticing weight loss and have no scales but reckon I must be cos I'm eating so much less than I used too. And so differently than I did with my boys. I'm not checking ph levels, or using rephresh, no ions, I am taking folic acid. I think I'm going to do very frequent bd, prob right thru o but not sure.
Where I am confused is this. I normally have plenty of ewcm, for a few days before o. Do I really need to take antihistamine to sway pink. Will I be very dry then? And then will ky etc make it harder to get pregnant? Any advice very welcome!
Hi peachy and welcome!!
I'm like you and naturally slim so losing weight is a tough one. THe idea with antihistamine is to dry up the fertile Cm making it yes, more difficult to concieve. Apparently more girls are concieved in "less fertile" surroundings. KY does help sway pink If I remember correctly. YOu can use one with spermacide but I personally wouldn't. I just started using RePHreash, I have to say, I LOVE it. I love that it balances me out. I have noticed an over all improvement of things down there. WHen TTC pink it can take longer to conceive because the things we do takes away fertility
Thanks bigchristy! It's my first month ttc with a sway but I'm impatient! I don't mind taking an antihistamine, think I'll wait and see if my cm has changed with the diet and if I still have loads I'll take one and see what happens. Have decided I won't look up anything else so I'm going to relax about everything for the next wk. not going to bother with opks this time either. It's a very chilled out sway for me, except for the starvation and the craving for all my boy foods! Good luck to you too!
I am so glad there's a lazy swayer group! Lol! I'm new here and we are gettingbready to ttc I'm still unsure of my approach I should take. I just turned 35, I have 3 boys, one being a set of twins. The twins are the youngest at almost 6. This is my second marriage, as I lost my dh a few years ago. This dh is 40 but has testosterone levels of a 25 year old. We are all aout sex every day but I'm worried I won't get pregnant that way! I can't afford to lose weight really so I'm kind of confused as to what to do. I used to have tons of ewcf back when ttc the boys but it's very scant, and my ph is running about 4-4.5 but now tha I'm reading I'm learning that may not matter. Ugh...so confusing! I've already cut back a lot on salt which is so so hard for me and eating more dairy (yogurt) which is also hard. I was going to do o+12 but now it seems that's not the way to go either. After reading the drinking thread I think I'm gonna throw back some vodka and get after it!
I am so glad there are others trying not to stress as much. I just wanna cut back on some things and check my ph and no O. Isntha enough? Thanks for being lazy like me! ;)
First, WELCOME!! I think you are doing very good! Because you are "older" that sways pink too. you have an advantage there. Our PH changes a bit during our cycles the most important is to know what our PH is during ovulation, it usually rises to make things "swimmer" friendly :)
Hi boymomsrock! What I'm doing re diet is I've had no red meat, no salt and I've upped my dairy intake. I've cut my calories right down and skipping breakfast. I'm drinking diet coke and waiting til I'm hungry to eat my meals. Basically the exact opposite to my usual diet. I'm really hoping not to be on it long! It feels so unhealthy. It's hard to know what's enough and I guess the truth is what's enough for one may not be for the next. Anyway, best of luck!
Hi peachy! I'm doing pretty much the same thing and skipping breakfast except I won't drink that stuff. It does feel unhealthy! Good luck to all of us! It's hard to know what to pick and choose.
What did everyone have for lunch today? I'm just starting this so I'm trying to figure it out. I had some Fage yogurt with strawberries and I made a cous cows salad with cucumbers and green beans. Exciting huh? :/
For the first time in my life im calorie counting! Today I'd a bowl of strawberries, a diet yogurt, and a rice cake! Not alot but filled the gap!
If it makes any of you feel good for what you are doing, I am probably more lazy than most of you! I am trying to eat mostly differently than I did with my 2 boys. I have been doing this since April waiting for my first PPAF, so it was getting old. I do eat breakfast, just a cup of nonfat yogurt with fruit. I generally am avoiding meat which is very different from what I used to. And I am actually doing less Calcium because with the boys I ate a ton. Wishing pink for everyone!
I like this what are you eating topic, I cheated today and had spaghetti and meatballs for lunch and hamburger for Dinner. AF is here. I need my iron, I start to feel really bad when it gets low during AF. I've done good with no snacking and no breakfast
You don't NEED to take an antihistamine. I didn't and I also had some EWCM. I think I was drier with DS 4 than i was when I conceived DD. There is a luck element involved too of course. It's your call to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peachy
KY jelly does indeed reduce odds of conception, all lubes do except Preseed and Conceive plus which sway blue.
Genie, that was me to a T! I ate and drank TONS of dairy with all my boys (as did my husband, we usually go thru a gallon of milk a day for ourselves and our older two boys) and with DS 4 I was also taking gobs of cal and mag supps! Then I got DD with both DH and I eating the absolute least amount of dairy ever and taking NO cal-mag supps.Quote:
Originally Posted by genieinabottle1
Remember, you do have the option of taking an iron supp rather than doing the red meat, because there is protein, fat, B12, and all sorts of jazz that may sway blue in meat!!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigchrista
Well I cheated today. I was so shaky and knew dh wasn't gonna be in town for my o time anyway, so I ate two small pieces of pizza. And now I'm drinking a beer. One day won't kill me right?! I'm already eating a LoT different than I normally do which I think is key. Although I feel like m starving! Guess I need to figure out some stuff to eat or just clock what I'm eating better. Sigh.
Thanks atomic, I'll see how much ewcm I have and decide from there. I'm on cd10 now, excited about trying, hoping to get pregnant anyway and if it's a girl it'd be amazing but I'll be so happy with another little boy too.
My diet took a hit this wknd too, I'd 2 nights out- so alcohol involved, and I'd to eat out too. Back on track now.
Atomic, if u see this I've 2 qs- I was on vit b12 supplements with my 2 boys- do you think that may have swayed blue?
And I'll be taking a 3 hour flight right around or after ov. Will this affect things do you think?
Thanks
Pizza is not a cheat!! Many of us had pizza regularly on the LE Diet (and beer as well!) It's the overall diet you follow, lower cal, lower protein, lower fat, lower nutrients, and possibly lower sodium, that sway, not any one food.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boymomsrock
Here's a funny thread where we talked about alcohol and swaying. I think alcohol in moderation doesn't sway and in excess prob. sways pink. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ways-pink.html The only time I was ever drinking more than socially was when I conceived DD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peachy
I do think B12 supps sway blue and when I was back on InGender, a lot of people took them because they were told it swayed pink and almost all of them got sway opposites. That having been said, if you have a true B12 deficiency and need the B12 for your health, please continue taking them.
I do not think flying sways at all whatsoever, except for people like stewardesses and pilots who are exposed to the radiation from flying every day for years.
Thanks a mill atomic. I haven't needed the b12 since my last pregnancy so its another difference for this time ttc. Must read that alcohol link now! I'm trying to cut back as much as poss but I enjoy a drink. But then I would have been drinking quite alot socially when my 2 boys were conceived so trying to do opposite everything this time!
Hopefully bd 3x in 12hours with him fr everyday is gonna sway pink for us! Fingers crossed!
Do you mind if I join in here, no where really for me to go, I think.I guess I'm a very lazy swayer..the only thing I'm doing is losing calories, not for swaying but to lose weight..so if losing weight sways girl? Then I'm in :C:
I could pick up some lazy sway ideas :)
Of course! Tons of people have gotten girls doing nothing any more than dropping a few lbs.
Just to give all you lazy swayers some hope, I'm expecting my first DD after 7 sons with no conscious swaying on my part. DH took a few supps but stopped well before our attempt.
There were a few different factors that I'll explain but it can happen with minimal effort.
DH- "sorting himself out" 1-2 times a day but not so frequent in the weeks pre attempt. Also eating liquorice root like sweeties and took strong cranberry tablets every day. As I said though, he stopped taking both a few weeks pre attempt.
Me- I lost about 5lb in weight a few weeks before out attempt. We was on holiday in Spain and eating 3 regular healthy meals a day helped me to lose weight, lol. I'm obviously much more of a snacker than I realise. :S
US- I was using opks but never got a +. I wasn't actually ttc (not trying, not preventing) but got randy one afternoon and dragged DH off for a middle of the day quickie. This is our only baby conceived doggy (sorry if tmi).
And thats it. Lazy swaying if you call it that.
Good luck girls. I hope you all get your :babyf: in the end.
I'm a lazy swayer. Cycle day 4 of my 1st ppaf. I am trying to lose about 5 lbs, taking Vitex af to o and one Zyrtex the night before or morning of my attempt later on that evening. I may also do another attempt 48 hours after + opk for $hits and giggles. Atomic, I got a personalized plan and you suggested 1 attempt at + opk. Can I do more than 1?
Absolutely! But just be aware that an attempt 48 hours after OPK has very low odds of success and you should stop any antihistamine, vitex BEFORE O - don't keep taking it because you're going to have another attempt, you will wreck your first attempt (with good odds of pg) for an attempt that has very low chances.
So if I make an attempt at + opk when should I take Zyrtec? I plan on dtd that evening. I don't want to take it too close and blow my shot.
Btw, how are you feeling? I see you have less than 3 weeks left. You and your family must be so excited. Great time of year to have a baby.