February 2WW

Whew! Had to catch up!

Maiden~ I have read a bit about Femara but haven't made any decisions. I am sort of at the point where if I can't get pregnant on my own then its not meant to be. I do already have 5 healthy kids so I think I will just try this cycle and the next but then I'll accept that I'm done and move on. I'm in the same boat as you as far as not wanting a baby so close to Christmas and I need to have the pregnancy and delivery within the same calendar year for insurance and financial reasons. And if I have to stop ttc to wait until the very end of the year then I don't think I'll want to start back up. Will be time to move on. I am BFing but have always had a short LP (7-10 days).

I'm so impressed with all of you ladies' patience with the charting etc. It tends to make me mental and stresses me out which will keep me from conceiving at all. So hats off to you all!!

tarasue~ I'm sorry Hun. I get the same way! Like you're looking to pick a fight with anyone that you come in contact with....no matter what they do. I go on lockdown mode. I like to stay home and read until the storm passes. I hope you feel better soon!!

So I finally O'd in the middle of the night last night. So I am considering today O Day! It's CD17 for me. We have been dtd since CD10. I'm not swaying just want to have a baby. We will still dtd again tonight. We didn't want to take a chance in missing an egg. FX!

I hope this is your month fivebabies!!!

Good to hear from you Fivebabies! If I don't conceive this cycle, next cycle we will do BD every 2-3 days, and then do every day from the end of AF to 2-3 days after O. I'm fed up not getting a BFP cycle after cycle too and will pull out all the stops the next 2 cycles. I feel with diet and exercise that should be a good enough sway!

FX you caught the egg!!!!


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Sorry your getting evap lines tarasue:(
FX it is just a little early!


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I am having achy type cramping. Hard to describe. More of an ache in my uterus off and on- different from AF cramps. I'm sure it is heralding AF, but I may cave and test in the morning if my temp is still high and I am not spotting. I just hate getting a BFN though! I'm over it already! That is why I may wait and be team ignorant [emoji1]!!


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Tarasue- I think it is still early! I'm hoping you get two nice dark lines in the coming days :)

XX- I think you will like what you see if you test but I completely understand wanting to wait as well.

fivebabies- I hope this is your month!

Thanks ladies!

XX I'm with you!!! All I did to sway for my last baby girl was VERY frequent dtd and drank lots of Crystal Light to lower my ph. That's really it. So that's a good enough of a sway for me! Don't stress too much on the swaying. I agree...I just want to get pregnant!!

So I really think I O'd last night but now I'm getting bad O pains again! really bad. And I have a headache. I want to get into bed with a hot pad. So at least I can still count today as O Day. On to the waiting! Ahhhhhhhhh!

XX-- your chart looks AMAZING!!!! You must be pregnant!!!!

Fivebabies-- good luck tonight! I hope you catch that egg! I totally know how you feel.

Trying to not get my hopes up [emoji16]! I am keeping it all in prospective- my hormones are balancing out and that makes me very happy! I am focusing on that and if it doesn't happen this time it will very soon!

FX that we all get our BFPs soon so we can treat ourselves- this swaying business is getting old [emoji12]!


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I'm so excited for you XX! I'm still waiting on some O signs, so far nothing. But I'm trying to be hopeful that it doesn't mean I won't O tomorrow.

Hi everyone! Last week AF showed up, five weeks after my mc. I was hoping to catch that first egg, we were BDing every four days since my mc bleeding stopped, so I was quite bummed to see AF. I should be ovulating this weekend. My plan is to DTD every four days and hope it works. Wish you all good luck xxx

Good luck Grace! I'm very sorry AF showed. Hopefully this will be your lucky cycle!

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Hi everyone! Last week AF showed up, five weeks after my mc. I was hoping to catch that first egg, we were BDing every four days since my mc bleeding stopped, so I was quite bummed to see AF. I should be ovulating this weekend. My plan is to DTD every four days and hope it works. Wish you all good luck xxx

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Sorry you didn't catch that first egg Grace, it's a hard thing, to accept AF arriving and not being pregnant again. Best of luck to you this cycle[emoji175]


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So sorry af showed Grace:( I had a really hard time missing that first egg after my mc. Sometimes I tried to tell myself that maybe I didn't even ovulate. I guess a lot of times you don't after a mc, anyways it seemed to make me feel better when I thought that was a possibility.
Good luck this round and hope you catch Goldie!


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Junie- Hopefully you o'd on cd19!! FX FX


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QueenB- I would LOVE that as at least I would have a chance. But my temps are SO low. Pre-O temps for sure. I think like many of us that I'm not going to have a chance before my first AF. But that is OK. I'm getting caught up in the days and weeks and I have to focus on the big picture which is that I still have a great chance to get pregnant in the coming months. I just have to be patient.

Grace and Junie - I had 2 afs after my m/c and then a bfp. Be patient, it will come! *hugs*

Xx - Your chart!!! Oh, the suspense. I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for you to poas!

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Btw, I guess no one had an opinion on if the OPK I posted a couple days ago was positive? It was this one http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...57524e2571.jpg

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Positive!

I wouldn't use coconut oil + EOs vaginally while TTC but otherwise I think it might help.

I'm so sorry Grace AF showed up [emoji20]. I'm hoping that you get a pink, sticky BFP this cycle.

Waiting to take this mornings temp. Boys are letting me rest in bed still...may have to get up a tad early

I'll update if I don't chicken out...


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Well my temp is still high, but I got a negative on a IC. I really don't feel pregnant and would be surprised to get a BFP. I bet AF will be around the corner for me, and I am fine with that. I'll change up a few things diet wise (just to break from the same old same old [emoji6]) and add fiber back in more routinely.

I really hope you ladies get your BFPs so you pass me your left over baby dust [emoji4]!

Who's due to test soon?


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XX- I just saw you are only 9 DPO if the 27th was your O date. Now if you test and get 2 lines you know you probably Od earlier, but if you test and get a negative it doesn't mean anything. I can totally understand waiting until the weekend!

Haha you just posted XX. WAY too early. Almost no one gets lines at 9DPO -even really pregnant people :D I won't believe it until AF comes.

XX- I would just say testing this morning ruled out the possibility of the earlier o date! 9 dpo is early. I know I have seen you say it yourself;)
Your temps still look great!


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XX- I just saw you are only 9 DPO if the 27th was your O date. Now if you test and get 2 lines you know you probably Od earlier, but if you test and get a negative it doesn't mean anything. I can totally understand waiting until the weekend!

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Yeah, we will see. I may now wait until AF would be late and test on the 11th. I just hate getting a BFN and refuse to waste a FRER on what I feel is a lost cause. Even though we keep trying, I am getting to the place, more and more often, where I just want to be done already. I got my 2 awesome boys, and I am fine with that. Honestly, how many times am I willing to bang on a door that is not being answered? I am starting to see that it may not be meant to be, and I am feeling at peace with that.

I am not sad or depressed. I just need to express myself and my feelings. DH can't always be there for me, because he is caught up in this too.

Thanks for listening ladies!


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Just remember XX that even though it feels so long right now- many women with no medical issues take up to a year to conceive. (I could list a few examples from friends where the 2nd or 1st took 9-12 months for no real reason that anyone could ever determine) Plus for many months you have been doing things to lower your fertility and of course your chances of a BFP. I understand wanting closure but I do feel that you still have great chances for getting pregnant- and getting pregnant soon. Please don't lose hope!

Sunbuny, I'm sorry to hear you're out. :(

sage, I think it's totally weird that she didn't ask about your cycles. That would tell her more than a pelvic exam! Maybe try googling for 'recommend/good RE Baltimore' or similar, see if you find any results on forums etc? Maybe try Yelp, too? Finding drs here is even worse bc I don't know many people and people don't use yelp or Craigslist or online regional forums. Plus I live in a very rural area. But if you csn afford it, I would consider going to a recommended dr even if not covered by insurance. Oh, and what I did when I had insurance was to find bios/pics of drs and decide based on that. My intuition rarely led me astray.

XX, your chart is still so amazing! And I really agree with Junie's post above; it can take a while even without any issues (and you DID have high FSH, presumably for most of your cycles TTC), plus we are swaying pink which takes longer.

Junie, I think I either haven't Oed at all yet (most likely) OR I did release an egg 4 days ago but another one is about to pop. I have found that in cycles when I release 2 eggs, my temp doesn't rise until I release the 2nd egg. And I have released eggs several days apart before (even though they say it's impossible! ). But I've had SO much EWCM the past 4 days, like multiple pairs of underwear changes needed amounts! And today I got a true, blaring positive OPK and Peak on my CBAD. I will try to attempt tonight (3.5 days since last attempt). Unfortunately DF ran out of his thyroid meds a couple weeks ago and so his libido and performance are really, um, down. And I left my ED med stash in the US, alas.

Maiden- I hope things work out so that you can BD tonight!!

Maiden- I have actually had it confirmed via ultrasound that I can release an egg two days apart. When that happens, my temp is slow to rise and you'll see my body tried to raise the temp, but didn't until the second egg is released. FX for you!

Thanks ladies. I know that even under perfect conditions it can take awhile to conceive. I am just trying to be in the moment and be ok with things as they are. I am preparing for AF and another plan for next cycle. I think we will BD 2-3 days, I'll keep up more vegetarian meals, and add in fiber at my largest meal of the day and any fatty meals. Otherwise, I feel good that my sway is not too strict and my diet and exercise are not too extreme. I feel this is a loose sway, but I feel it needs to be YK! Plus the acupuncture is helping because my charts are showing great estrogen and progesterone production.

I don't know what I would do without you ladies! It is so comforting to know that I can talk to people who GET it! [emoji8]!


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fivebabies, I am a huge believer in fate so I totally understand where you're coming from. I hope you catch the egg this month, whether you've just Oed or are about to! Do you use OPKs? If not, how do you predict/determine O? I personally find charting/temping LESS stressful than not doing so, bc without temping I can't be sure of when I Oed (OPKs typically aren't reliable for me), which REALLY stresses me out. Plus I've been charting so long it's automatic at this point.

Grace, I am sorry you missed the first egg but I hope you catch this next one. Sounds like maybe we will O together as I expect to O Friday or Saturday.

Junie, I hope you O soon, or already have, despite the lack of a positive OPK. Have you been attempting every 4 days just in case? Things can be weird in post loss cycles. How long will DH be gone for? And thank you for the well wishes!

XX, you are still so early I wouldn't be dismayed by a BFN, though I know it's impossible not to feel somewhat disappointed. Fx you just need a few more days. How many DPO were you when you had that spot of blood?

I have also had my hyper O confirmed by ultrasound, with 2 eggs being released days apart on several occasions. The most confirmed by ultrasound was 7 days, but based on symptoms and charting I believe I've released them as far apart as 2 weeks! How very interesting that your experience with hyper O and temps is the same. You're so my twin!

Remember how 4 days ago I was telling my ovary to release another egg bc I had BDed so late? Be careful what you wish for...!

I am crampy and feel PMS already! Only 3-4 dpo! So annoying.


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I had no idea you can release two eggs per cycle! Considering I seem to be having EWCM again maybe that's what I am feeling too?


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I am crampy and feel PMS already! Only 3-4 dpo! So annoying.


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2boys- this ended up being a good sign for me! Good Luck!


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I hope you are right QueenB! Thanks for the boost of positivity!


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Tarasue sorry you didn't hear better news. I also go through those up and down negative feelings. Pms/AF is the worst reminder of not being pregnant. (Hugs girlie)

Maiden- We've been BDing every 3 (tonight is up again LOL) and we'll also BD tomorrow as late as possible before he leaves for a last chance. He'll be gone 9 days so really either I O by Sun at the lastest or I am out for this cycle.

I also just have to say that I love having you guys and totally agree with XX. It is so nice to talk to people who "get it".

Xx I'm glad you feel alright about the situation you're in. I am not yet alright with no more children. But even cycle it gets a smidgen easier to accept. I also grateful to you all. No matter how understanding the DH is HE can never truly understand all the crazy things we go through as women physically and emotionally.
I'm on 4th day of meds and feel crampy and bloated. I think that's the estrogen working. CD 8, ready to start BD!

I'm wondering if you Xx or any one else that's been trying a while has talked to their doc about meds or is on them?

Ladies just did an OPK and it was a bit darker- please cross everything that this happens in the next 3 days for me!!

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I had no idea you can release two eggs per cycle! Considering I seem to be having EWCM again maybe that's what I am feeling too?

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I'm not sure how common it is in the general population to hyper O if you don't have the gene, though I do know that most times when 2 eggs are released they are released within a couple hours of each other AT MOST. I have the hyper O gene (frequency of about 10%) and I release 2 eggs, 3-4 cycles a year for the past few years. I have been having more and more hyper O cycles per year over time. My first 5 pregnancies between ages 20-26 were all singletons, but I was also trying to AVOID pregnancy and I know at least 2 of those cycles I conceived were hyper O but I caught only one egg bc there were days between the 2 eggs being released.

I can't tell if I'm hyper Oing based on CM, btw. But others including you may be able to. I also don't have any cramping in hyper O or regular cycles (I almost never have cramps except during AF) I do have symptoms that I nearly always and usually only have in hyper O cycles, though (migraines & mental effects from high estrogen, 2 or prolonged O pains, 2 LH surges or one longer than usual one). But I know this only bc of so long charting and bc of confirmation via ultrasound and bloodwork.

What is up with tarasue? I haven't seen her posting lately. She is in testing range now right?

2boys, cramping at unusual times during your LP is often a good sign.

EJ, I hope you have a nice, high quality egg growing! I am on my 7th cycle TTC (though 3 of my 6 cycles so far my timing was so bad I missed O), but I started NTNP in Dec 2011. I conceived twins my 2nd cycle but lost both bc one was ectopic, and the loss really messed me up for a long time both mentally and physically. I am seriously considering seeing a dr for some clomid/femara, to try the cycle after next (which will be my last cycle swaying & actively TTC). I have always had a short LP, too, though I conceived easily despite it in the past.

Junie, I really hope you are about to O! And I'm SO glad you've been attempting regularly.

I had some pretty strong O twinges around 5-6pm that felt like they were the beginning of my full on O pain but nope, they dissipated. I wish I would O right now though bc then I wouldn't need to attempt again! But if I O tomorrow night, I think I should attempt since otherwise I will only have O-4. Though I have at least had lots of EWCM to keep sperm alìve...if there are any, considering DF's currently untreated hypothyroidism. :/

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I'm wondering if you Xx or any one else that's been trying a while has talked to their doc about meds or is on them?

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I am not a good candidate for meds since other than my bloodwork, everything looks great! I have the appropriate amount of follicles for my age and my lining is just right too. So I am going the acupuncture route and have added Yoga back in for peace of mind.

The only thing I am doing to sway is the fertility diet, fiber before fatty meals and the biggest meal of the day, cinnamon in my morning decaf coffee, exercise, and BDing no more than 2 attempts in my fertile window (at least for one more cycle anyway). No snacking and not eating for several hours after waking.

I can't drop the exercise- it's the only thing that keeps me sane and some chocolate once a day [emoji6]!


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