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Thank you for your advice. We had a BD yesterday evening (the day of the trigger injection) and will also have an attempt tonight and if possible also tomorrow evening - to be sure.
I want to thank you again for your great detailed answers in September, they helped me a lot. I try to implement them as much as possible. I didn't take any medication in the last few cycles, we tried to get pregnant naturally. I'm still not pregnant. But I had the feeling that I had to actively do something again to increase the chance, so we try another cycle under Gonal F and control by the fertility clinic. I don't have much hope of conceiving naturally anymore and I'm trying to accept that there may not be a second child, but it's very hard for me. We're now in cycle 17 or so, I've lost count.
I have almost completely given up the Sway. I've gained some weight (about 54 kg now, BMI 21.6) but the weight hasn't changed for a while now and I'm eating so many calories that I'm neither gaining nor losing weight. I continue to skip breakfast, but because it's good for me and I like it. I no longer do hard exercises like trampoline jumping. I only go for walks irregularly 3-4 days a week, sometimes more, sometimes less. Alcohol only on weekends. My hubby takes supplements for sperm quality. I take prenatal supplements about 3 times a week. In the natural cycle without medication we do e4D+1. We use a sperm-friendly lubricant when necessary. No jump and dump or things like this.
I still want a girl with all my heart. But the desire for a certain gender has receded into the background. First and foremost, I just want to get pregnant. I want my son to have a sibling. That has absolute priority. Of course I'm still hoping for a girl, very much so, but I'm so scared that I won't get pregnant at all, that the focus will be on getting pregnant and not on the girl sway anymore. So I dropped almost all things. It wasn't easy for me. But I had to drop it, also because I couldn't make it anymore. Daily exercises, constant dieting, that was no longer manageable for me, I was under so much stress because I wanted to do everything well, it was no longer good for me and it was no longer good for my family. If I knew I was going to get pregnant in a cycle or two or three, I'd go all-out on the Sway again. But I don't know, and I can't do all this indefinitely anymore. So I let the girl sway go. Also to increase the chances of getting pregnant.
But the biggest factor for me is still that there must be a reason why I won't get pregnant anymore. That gives me so many thoughts. There must be a reason, but I don't know how to find out. Last week I had a glucose load test to rule out diabetes or insulin resistance. Since I had gestational diabetes and also had PCO tendencies prior to pregnancy, this may be a possibility. I don't have the result of the test yet. I already know that I definitely don't have diabetes, but I don't know the result for insulin resistance yet.
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I really hope this is your month! Sending you healthy pink dust you way! I think your attempts sounded great :)
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If you would like to, go over all the testing you have had by doctors so far.
Oftentimes, when we have someone go this long not getting pregnant, it is an external reason that actually had nothing to do with the sway.
Some people have felt that even the sperm safe lubricant seemed to be preventing conception. You might want to try skipping it in the fertile window and seeing if it helps at all.
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Hello Atomic,
I did not get pregnant even in the second cycle with Gonal F.
I'll list all of the test results here:
- I had several cycle monitors. Everything always looks great. An ultrasound always shows a nice, large follicle, the lining of the uterus is well built up (about 10 mm just before ovulation).
- No abnormalities in the hormone levels. All hormones (according to the doctor) are in the normal range. I already showed them in post #109.
- I track my cycles with OPKs and BBT. I have positive OPKs every cycle and a temp rise a few days later. I have a lot of EWCM in the fertile window. At the same time, the ultrasound shows a follicle ready to rupture. My ovulation is usually between day 12 and day 16. My luteal phase is 13-15 days long. My temperature curve always looks perfect.
- I had a laparoscopy, hysteroscopy and fallopian tube patency test. No abnormalities were found. Only a hydatid cyst was found on the ovary and removed. Both fallopian tubes are permeable. Uterus is normal. No abnormalities are found in the abdominal cavity.
- Two sperm analyzes by two different doctors. Both doctors said everything is fine. The sperm is in the normal range almost everywhere, only the number of normally shaped sperm is slightly lower than normal. The results are also in post #109.
- I've had several cycles of letrozole without a doctor, but I've had random ultrasounds several times and it's always shown a great follicle.
- I had two cycles with Gonal F with medical support, here too a great follicle was always visible in the ultrasound, ovulation was triggered with Ovitrelle.
- Of course, I also had a lot of cycles without medication, where great follicles were also visible and my BBT and OPKs were perfect.
- We have been trying to conceive since September 2021 with no success. We have done many cycles with e4D+1 and also several cycles with SMEP.
- We tried a lot: cycles with a sperm-friendly lubricant, cycles without lubricant. After the BD, lie on my back and on my stomach. And so much more. I tried everything Dr. Google me names to get pregnant faster. We both take supplements. I gave up the Sway completely.
I do not get it. With our first child, I got pregnant on the first try. Back then I had long, irregular cycles (PCO tendencies I think) and I still got pregnant in the first cycle of trying. Ever since my son was born, I have had fantastic cycles, regularly and according to several doctors, everything always looks perfect. But I just can't get pregnant. Even my doctor at the fertility clinic now told me I was puzzling her. It's strange that I get pregnant with my first child without any problems on the first (!) attempt and now with the second child, it just doesn't work out and no cause can be found. There is proven regular ovulation, great uterine lining, good sperm, the fallopian tubes are free and so on.
I told you in the last post that I did a glucose tolerance test. I now have the result. My blood sugar levels were in the normal range and not too high. I definitely don't have diabetes. Regarding insulin resistance, I was told that my readings were slightly off. My Homa Index is a little over 1, which is probably just in the range between "normal" and "suspicion of insulin resistance". My doctor said that she recently attended a training course and it said that if the Homa Index was 1 or higher, metformin could be used to improve fertility. So she gave me metformin, which I've been on for about two weeks now. I don't know if this makes sense as my Homa Index isn't that high and I ovulate regularly, but I figure it sure doesn't hurt and is worth a try. To improve the Homa Index, the doctor advised me to eat little sugar, lose some weight and exercise a lot. Ha ha, good joke. I did this for over a year while I did the Sway. It didn't help getting pregnant. And I don't have the strength for it anymore.
I am so desperate and sad. My son is so crazy about babies and really wants a sibling. He often asks me about it and pretends his stuffed animals are babies. And it breaks my heart.
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Hello Atomic, I did not get pregnant even in the second cycle with Gonal F. I'll list all of the test results here:
- I had several cycle monitors. Everything always looks great. An ultrasound always shows a nice, large follicle, the lining of the uterus is well built up (about 10 mm just before ovulation).
- No abnormalities in the hormone levels. All hormones (according to the doctor) are in the normal range. I already showed them in post #109.
- I track my cycles with OPKs and BBT. I have positive OPKs every cycle and a temp rise a few days later. I have a lot of EWCM in the fertile window. At the same time, the ultrasound shows a follicle ready to rupture. My ovulation is usually between day 12 and day 16. My luteal phase is 13-15 days long. My temperature curve always looks perfect.
- I had a laparoscopy, hysteroscopy and fallopian tube patency test. No abnormalities were found. Only a hydatid cyst was found on the ovary and removed. Both fallopian tubes are permeable. Uterus is normal. No abnormalities are found in the abdominal cavity.
- Two sperm analyzes by two different doctors. Both doctors said everything is fine. The sperm is in the normal range almost everywhere, only the number of normally shaped sperm is slightly lower than normal. The results are also in post #109.
- I've had several cycles of letrozole without a doctor, but I've had random ultrasounds several times and it's always shown a great follicle.
- I had two cycles with Gonal F with medical support, here too a great follicle was always visible in the ultrasound, ovulation was triggered with Ovitrelle.
- Of course, I also had a lot of cycles without medication, where great follicles were also visible and my BBT and OPKs were perfect.
- We have been trying to conceive since September 2021 with no success. We have done many cycles with e4D+1 and also several cycles with SMEP.
- We tried a lot: cycles with a sperm-friendly lubricant, cycles without lubricant. After the BD, lie on my back and on my stomach. And so much more. I tried everything Dr. Google me names to get pregnant faster. We both take supplements. I gave up the Sway completely.
I do not get it. With our first child, I got pregnant on the first try. Back then I had long, irregular cycles (PCO tendencies I think) and I still got pregnant in the first cycle of trying. Ever since my son was born, I have had fantastic cycles, regularly and according to several doctors, everything always looks perfect. But I just can't get pregnant. Even my doctor at the fertility clinic now told me I was puzzling her. It's strange that I get pregnant with my first child without any problems on the first (!) attempt and now with the second child, it just doesn't work out and no cause can be found. There is proven regular ovulation, great uterine lining, good sperm, the fallopian tubes are free and so on.
I told you in the last post that I did a glucose tolerance test. I now have the result. My blood sugar levels were in the normal range and not too high. I definitely don't have diabetes. Regarding insulin resistance, I was told that my readings were slightly off. My Homa Index is a little over 1, which is probably just in the range between "normal" and "suspicion of insulin resistance". My doctor said that she recently attended a training course and it said that if the Homa Index was 1 or higher, metformin could be used to improve fertility. So she gave me metformin, which I've been on for about two weeks now. I don't know if this makes sense as my Homa Index isn't that high and I ovulate regularly, but I figure it sure doesn't hurt and is worth a try. To improve the Homa Index, the doctor advised me to eat little sugar, lose some weight and exercise a lot. Ha ha, good joke. I did this for over a year while I did the Sway. It didn't help getting pregnant. And I don't have the strength for it anymore.
I am so desperate and sad. My son is so crazy about babies and really wants a sibling. He often asks me about it and pretends his stuffed animals are babies. And it breaks my heart.
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Hello Atomic, I did not get pregnant even in the second cycle with Gonal F. I'll list all of the test results here:
- I had several cycle monitors. Everything always looks great. An ultrasound always shows a nice, large follicle, the lining of the uterus is well built up (about 10 mm just before ovulation).
- No abnormalities in the hormone levels. All hormones (according to the doctor) are in the normal range. I already showed them in post #109.
- I track my cycles with OPKs and BBT. I have positive OPKs every cycle and a temp rise a few days later. I have a lot of EWCM in the fertile window. At the same time, the ultrasound shows a follicle ready to rupture. My ovulation is usually between day 12 and day 16. My luteal phase is 13-15 days long. My temperature curve always looks perfect.
- I had a laparoscopy, hysteroscopy and fallopian tube patency test. No abnormalities were found. Only a hydatid cyst was found on the ovary and removed. Both fallopian tubes are permeable. Uterus is normal. No abnormalities are found in the abdominal cavity.
- Two sperm analyzes by two different doctors. Both doctors said everything is fine. The sperm is in the normal range almost everywhere, only the number of normally shaped sperm is slightly lower than normal. The results are also in post #109.
- I've had several cycles of letrozole without a doctor, but I've had random ultrasounds several times and it's always shown a great follicle.
- I had two cycles with Gonal F with medical support, here too a great follicle was always visible in the ultrasound, ovulation was triggered with Ovitrelle.
- Of course, I also had a lot of cycles without medication, where great follicles were also visible and my BBT and OPKs were perfect.
- We have been trying to conceive since September 2021 with no success. We have done many cycles with e4D+1 and also several cycles with SMEP.
- We tried a lot: cycles with a sperm-friendly lubricant, cycles without lubricant. After the BD, lie on my back and on my stomach. And so much more. I tried everything Dr. Google me names to get pregnant faster. We both take supplements. I gave up the Sway completely.
I do not get it. With our first child, I got pregnant on the first attempt. Back then I had long, irregular cycles (PCO tendencies I think) and I still got pregnant in the first cycle of trying. Ever since my son was born, I have had fantastic cycles, regularly and according to several doctors, everything always looks perfect. But I just can't get pregnant. Even my doctor at the fertility clinic now told me I was puzzling her. It's strange that I get pregnant with my first child without any problems on the first (!) attempt and now with the second child, it just doesn't work out and no cause can be found. There is proven regular ovulation, great uterine lining, good sperm, the fallopian tubes are free and so on.
I told you in the last post that I did a glucose tolerance test. I now have the result. My blood sugar levels were in the normal range and not too high. I definitely don't have diabetes. Regarding insulin resistance, I was told that my readings were slightly off. My Homa Index is a little over 1, which is probably just in the range between "normal" and "suspicion of insulin resistance". My doctor said that she recently attended a training course and it said that if the Homa Index was 1 or higher, metformin could be used to improve fertility. So she gave me metformin, which I've been on for about two weeks now. I don't know if this makes sense as my Homa Index isn't that high and I ovulate regularly, but I figure it sure doesn't hurt and is worth a try. To improve the Homa Index, the doctor advised me to eat little sugar, lose some weight and exercise a lot. Ha ha, good joke. I did this for over a year while I did the Sway. It didn't help getting pregnant. And I don't have the strength for it anymore.
I am so desperate and sad. My son is so crazy about babies and really wants a sibling. He often asks me about it and pretends his stuffed animals are babies. And it breaks my heart.
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I'm so sorry it hasn't happened yet.
Can you fill me in on the supplements you guys are taking? Dr. Google can sometimes suggest things that aren't necessarily good. Some of the supplements that are advised on the Internet are worse than nothing. I would really love to take a look at them and see if there's anything in there that may actually be hurting your chances.
Metformin can help some people, although I agree it's a bit of a stretch to assume that you will be in that group as it's such a trifling finding. Most of the time, when people have insulin issues it's very obvious and they have a lot of markers. But metformin doesn't hurt. I don't think you need to get too serious about changing your diet though.
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Hello Atomic, after a long time I'm back in touch. Unfortunately with a sad result. We are at the end of our fertility journey. Sadly, I didn't get pregnant. I have no idea why. I am sad. But I'm at the end and don't want to go any longer. I have no more energy.
I gave up the Sway a very long time ago. My absolute dream was always to have a daughter. But for a long time now, I haven't dared to think it was even possible. At some point you get to the point where you just want to get pregnant. I would have taken a second boy with a kiss, as long as I got pregnant again. The most important thing was that my son had a sibling.
Over the last one and a half years, we have had several fertility treatments. 3 inseminations. 1 round of IVF. 1 round of ICSI. A total of 2 embryo transfers. There was never an implantation. Yesterday I had the last BFN. There is still no explanation as to why I am not getting pregnant. All medical examinations showed no cause for the infertility. The doctors don't know what the cause is either. The only thing that was noticeable was our poor rate of fertilized eggs. During my first IVF, 14 eggs were retrieved, but only 4 of them fertilized. One good quality blastocyst remained at the End. But there was no implantation. We then decided on ICSI, hoping that there would be more fertilized eggs. We were able to retrieve 10 eggs, but only 4 of them were mature. 3 had been fertilized by ICSI. One blastocyst of very good quality remained. Due to hyperstimulation syndrome, it was frozen and transferred in a cryo cycle. I received the result yesterday: Negative. No implantation again.
We do not know the reason for the many immature eggs that cannot be fertilized. I have done everything in my control. We took all the additional services that were available for ICSI. I read the book "It starts with the Egg" by Rebecca Fett and acted accordingly. My husband did too. I gained weight, lost weight, exercised a lot, didn't exercise, I ate well, I tried EVERYTHING.
It is unexplainable to us why we are not allowed to have a second child. All medical examinations showed good results. Good sperm, the fallopian tubes are clear, the uterus looks good, the uterine lining is building up well, all hormone levels are normal, my cycle is regular, I always have nice follicles, I respond well to the medication, there is no coagulation disorder and so on. It remains a mystery.
So, unfortunately, we will now draw a line and close the "second child" chapter without success. I'm very sad about it, but I can't do it anymore. Without knowing what the reason for the infertility is, there's no point in continuing anyway. I will soon be 35 years old. We have been trying to get pregnant for 2.5 years. My son will soon be 6 years old. For us, the biggest mystery and at the same time the greatest luck is that we were able to conceive him naturally in the first cycle without any problems. That is my miracle. I am so grateful for that!
That's why I'm now saying goodbye here for good. Thank you for all your advice and tips, Atomic. You have supported me on my journey for a long time and I am so grateful for your work. And I'm sure that if there wasn't some unknown barrier preventing me from getting pregnant, I would have had my little girl thanks to your help. THANK YOU!
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Hello Atomic, after a long time I'm back in touch. Unfortunately with a sad result. We are at the end of our fertility journey. Sadly, I didn't get pregnant. I have no idea why. I am sad. But I'm at the end and don't want to go any longer. I have no more energy.
I gave up the Sway a very long time ago. My absolute dream was always to have a daughter. But for a long time now, I haven't dared to think it was even possible. At some point you get to the point where you just want to get pregnant. I would have taken a second boy with a kiss, as long as I got pregnant again. The most important thing was that my son had a sibling.
Over the last one and a half years, we have had several fertility treatments. 3 inseminations. 1 round of IVF. 1 round of ICSI. A total of 2 embryo transfers. There was never an implantation. Yesterday I had the last BFN. There is still no explanation as to why I am not getting pregnant. All medical examinations showed no cause for the infertility. The doctors don't know what the cause is either. The only thing that was noticeable was our poor rate of fertilized eggs. During my first IVF, 14 eggs were retrieved, but only 4 of them fertilized. One good quality blastocyst remained at the End. But there was no implantation. We then decided on ICSI, hoping that there would be more fertilized eggs. We were able to retrieve 10 eggs, but only 4 of them were mature. 3 had been fertilized by ICSI. One blastocyst of very good quality remained. Due to hyperstimulation syndrome, it was frozen and transferred in a cryo cycle. I received the result yesterday: Negative. No implantation again.
We do not know the reason for the many immature eggs that cannot be fertilized. I have done everything in my control. We took all the additional services that were available for ICSI. I read the book "It starts with the Egg" by Rebecca Fett and acted accordingly. My husband did too. I gained weight, lost weight, exercised a lot, didn't exercise, I ate well, I tried EVERYTHING.
It is unexplainable to us why we are not allowed to have a second child. All medical examinations showed good results. Good sperm, the fallopian tubes are clear, the uterus looks good, the uterine lining is building up well, all hormone levels are normal, my cycle is regular, I always have nice follicles, I respond well to the medication, there is no coagulation disorder and so on. It remains a mystery.
So, unfortunately, we will now draw a line and close the "second child" chapter without success. I'm very sad about it, but I can't do it anymore. Without knowing what the reason for the infertility is, there's no point in continuing anyway. I will soon be 35 years old. We have been trying to get pregnant for 2.5 years. My son will soon be 6 years old. For us, the biggest mystery and at the same time the greatest luck is that we were able to conceive him naturally in the first cycle without any problems. That is my miracle. I am so grateful for that!
That's why I'm now saying goodbye here for good. Thank you for all your advice and tips, Atomic. You have supported me on my journey for a long time and I am so grateful for your work. And I'm sure that if there wasn't some unknown barrier preventing me from getting pregnant, I would have had my little girl thanks to your help. THANK YOU!
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I am so sorry, I am sending love and hugs and wishing you all the best in your future!
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Oh gosh Lanini I'm so terribly sorry to read this. Best wishes on your future life, wishing you every joy with your husband and son!
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Hello Atomic,
I didn't expect to report here again. But after 2.5 years and countless cycles of TTC, as well as 3 inseminations and 2 ICSI, I unexpectedly had a BFP a few weeks ago. I'm in the 7th week of pregnancy. We could already see the heartbeat. The baby was conceived without medical assistance. I wouldn't have expected that. I thought I would never get pregnant again. Now we are of course very happy that this surprising miracle has found its way to us. But since it's a surprise, I didn't do any pink sway. After this long time, I desperately want a second child, even if it is a second boy. Still, I hope that somehow luck will be on our side and give us a little girl.
In the months before conception I actually did regular exercise. in January, February and March I actually did exercise quite often (5-6 days per week), mainly going for a walk, but often not for a whole hour at a time, but several small exercises spread throughout the day. I averaged 12,000 steps per day. In April I did almost nothing (exercises only 1-2 times a week or less). Conception was in mid-April. I didn't go on a diet. I haven't lost or gained any weight in the last few months, although I did gain a few kilos in the fall last year (from about 53 kg to 57 kg), but I've been maintaining this weight since November/December. I've been eating about 1800 calories a day for the past few months, some days less, some days more. However, I always skipped breakfast. Unfortunately, I didn't drink any coffee or alcohol.
Until the middle of March I was taking a lot of supplements and vitamins because of our embryo transfer in February. After this one was a BFN I stopped taking vitamins. The last time I took Femara was in February, before the transfer of our embryo, which was a BFN.
We had 2 attempts in the fertile window. Coincidentally, it was in the rhythm of the e4D (Tuesday and Friday, ovulation was probably on Saturday). In addition, I was very sick during the conception period, I had tonsillitis and took antibiotics.
What do you think my chances are for a girl? I didn't do any sway, didn't pay any conscious attention to anything, because after such a long time (2.5 years) I no longer expected conception. Do you think my chances are simply 50/50 or did I subconsciously sway pink or blue?
A girl would be so great! Please keep your fingers crossed for me!
But a boy is also OK and will be loved with all our hearts.
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Oh gosh, that's wonderful news! I am so happy for you! My fingers and toes are crossed for pink, but most of all for a healthy pregnancy and safe and easy delivery!
The truth is, I can't tell anyone what their chances are of a boy or girl. I just can't know that, and I don't feel comfortable making up numbers that are not based in reality beyond just my gut instinct. You did a lot of pink friendly stuff, but in terms of mathematical odds, I just truly can't say.
Wishing you all the best for this unexpected addition and in your life!
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Hello Atomic. I am now 14 weeks pregnant. The baby is developing right on schedule. Everything looks good. We found out the sex today. It's a girl ♥️. Confirmed with NIPT Test and Ultrasound. I can hardly believe it. I'm over the moon. After all this time, I haven't dared to believe it for a long time. I'm going to have a daughter. A dream come true!
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Final Update – My Miracle Baby Girl 💖
Hello dear friends,
It’s been such a long time since I last posted here. Unfortunately, I’ve had trouble accessing the site from Germany, which is why I went quiet for a while. But I could never quite let go without closing my story, so here I am – with my final update.
After 2.5 years of TTC, facing unexpected fertility issues, 3 failed IUIs and 2 failed IVFs – a total of 34 cycles filled with heartbreak but always holding onto the dream of a daughter – something truly unbelievable happened: I got pregnant naturally. Completely out of the blue.
And what can I say… my dream has come true. Since January 2025, my beautiful baby girl has been in my arms 🎀💖. She is everything I ever hoped for and so much more. Sometimes I still can’t believe she’s real 🥹. She is my miracle – and she will always be my miracle. I look at her and feel nothing but awe. She is perfect, and worth every tear, every setback, every moment of pain along the way. I love her more than words can ever express and I will never, ever take her for granted. Being a girl mom fills my heart with so much joy 🫶.
Even though I wasn’t actively swaying at the time of conception, I truly believe that the years of swaying before still played a role. Many of the habits had become second nature. I was still doing lots of cardio Exercises, eating at a slight calorie deficit, and our Attempts followed the e4D pattern. So even without consciously “trying,” I was still doing a lot of things right. I’m convinced this site and everything I learned here helped make my dream a reality. And for that, I am endlessly grateful.
To everyone still waiting for their miracle – please don’t give up. Believe in miracles. Believe in your dreams. Hold on to hope, because anything is possible.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart!