Due March/April/May 2017 (2)

You don't know what I'm doing in people's plans, Burkoam. I have dozens of blue swayers all with different needs and I work with them for months and in some cases years. Many of the plans are dramatically different from each other and I tweak them very much over the course of time as things and circumstances change.

I believe that some very great assumptions are being made and I realize in the here and now that nothing I say will be heard by anyone. I think I'm veering into "the lady doth protest too much" land here and I'm done.

I've tried, I've failed, moving on.

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Originally Posted by Burakoam

Brandles while I hate that she seems to pop up and always rub in anyone's face she can that she has no problem getting what she wants it seems sway or not, is a good example. Her body is quite obviously in a state of 50/50. She nudges a bit this way she gets a boy.. she goes the opposite, gets a girl. Someone with 3 boys is not going to be in that same state. Brandles admitted for 2 of her boys she swayed so you can't use her as an example of a mom that has 3 boys then gets a girl. Instead the example should be Jen, who is on her 4th I can tell from her belly pictures she still has a lot muscle mass. I think what you are looking at is in what sway cases is there an individual who needs a more extreme sway from you vs someone who may only need a nudge one way or the other.

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And then that perspective is complicated, too, it seems since XX was mentioning extreme sways seeming to be an issue, whereas looser sways work better -- I mean, we have several women on here who had "surprise" babies that did end up being their desired gender, right? Even after several of one? Even for blue, I wonder if people just followed looser changes (so weight gain was minimized, if at all) if that would be preferable, just as the "relaxed sway" has been recommended for girl sways?

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Originally Posted by Burakoam

A good example of why women with dominant strong genes doesn't mean boys are easy to make.

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I knew you were pretty ;) your girls look just like you! A little jealous because none of my boys look anything like me. They are all mini versions of my dh

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Originally Posted by Throwaway_panther

I'm not implying you're making things up, since you quoted my notion of rhetoric. I, and others, do feel that questioning some recommendations and/or bringing up other points is not well received. Which is uncomfortable. And if you take that as a potshot, I'm at a loss as to how to convey any inquiry.

We're all in here because we're desperate. Many of us pay you in some way or other for a reason. But it's hard to say anything it seems lately.

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Panther, you've implied quite a few things in your recent posts and I don't think I'm misreading them.

That is probably partially down to the shortcomings of communications of forums. You guys have to expect that I will reply to the things you say giving my opinion (which is really all I have to give - my opinion and my experience). Some of the things you in particular have said over the course of the last few days have been unfair and untrue, and when I try to explain further, this has now become drummed up into me being defensive. Or something. I'm sure that's how it comes off. I don't have time to edit LOL. Answering people's questions is not being defensive, nor is trying to explain it further when someone is seeming to misunderstand a point I'm making. That's all.

Anyway, done now.

Oh God, I so totally know better, but again an assumption that some people may have, about what I am recommending that is possibly not correct.

I do not ever tell people to gain bundles of weight for blue. I know people have that misconception but the most I ever have anyone gain in sway plans is 10-15 lbs for women who are very underweight, 3-5 or even 1-3 lbs for most, and then overweight swayers I have them gain nothing if possible and just hold steady. This is not something I can change - that's already how I have it in the blue plans. I agree, completely and totally, excess weight gain is not a good idea (even just for having a healthy pregnancy)

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

Panther, you've implied quite a few things in your recent posts and I don't think I'm misreading them.

That is probably partially down to the shortcomings of communications of forums. You guys have to expect that I will reply to the things you say giving my opinion (which is really all I have to give - my opinion and my experience). Some of the things you in particular have said over the course of the last few days have been unfair and untrue, and when I try to explain further, this has now become drummed up into me being defensive. Or something. I'm sure that's how it comes off. I don't have time to edit LOL. Answering people's questions is not being defensive, nor is trying to explain it further when someone is seeming to misunderstand a point I'm making. That's all.

Anyway, done now.

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I don't know what you think I'm implying though, and I've already said you are inferring something from me that I'm not intending! I've tried so, so hard to try and play peace here while still trying to contribute to discussion. I am only here because I want the same thing as others on here; I came here too wanting a baby of a certain sex and finding the support over being depressed about the sex of my baby. I just feel at this point you dislike me and there's nothing I can possibly say to change this. And even if it doesn't matter if you like me or not, all I have ever tried to do on here was analyze everything we have at our fingertips to try and get our desire gendered babies, like you do for us.

I just don't know what else to say anymore, so I'll just stop.

If I tried to explain, then I would look like an asshole and just get sucked into a further debate about what you meant and how I didn't read it right, ok?? At some point, I think when a person wants to argue, they're gonna find something in anything a person tries, to continue it, and I don't wanna argue. So I am suggesting that we walk away whistling (that's what I am doing anyway) and I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing to the best of my ability. Maybe there will be something in that that you can use. That would be my hope. :)

Am off to bed now but had to say burakoam what a gorgeous family you have!

I don't really know why we are all arguing, but I think we all want the same thing. Am not sure how may sway will turn out but whatever the outcome, no more babies for me. My decision, but I still am interested in gender swaying and although sorting out this information won't help me, I hope it could help others, I think that is our common goal. We are all here for an individual purpose but our common goal is to help and support each other. I am so grateful for this site because my goodness in the future if this does not work out am going need you guys. I will have no one to talk it through with in rl, my husband has made it clear he will not tolerate gender disappointment! I think it is really healthy for people to share their perspective on why they think it's not working because some helpful ideas might come from this. But it is also heart breaking when people don't get their gd, especially when it is their last shot. I have to say burakoam I have been so impressed with you trying to understand your sway and help others but everyone must remember that that is through a hurt position. That is just my opinion and don't want to upset anyone, so ignore my tired rambling, I don't even know what point I was trying to make. I suppose I don't know how your feeling burakoam just some pop psychology ideas on it!

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Originally Posted by jenren

Such a cute bump! I'm sorry about your dh :( I can't imagine how hard that would be. my dh was done after our second baby. Yet here we are on ds 4 and every pregnancy he has been so supportive and loving about. Even though I know he would have been done after two he has supported me in having more. I even believe he would let me go for a fifth if I wanted... but it would be just too much for me. I really hope dh comes around for you soon. Has he gone to an ultrasound with you??

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Thanks Jen! It's definitely been a tough pregnancy as far as DH is concerned. My black top today was tight and I went to sit on the couch near him... he looked at my belly and rolled his eyes. It really sucks. He did come to my NT scan with me, and asked a couple questions... I think he was a little disappointed hearing that everything was ok with the baby thus far.

So anyway back with thread topic...


Elective ultrasound is in 7 days. I will be 16 weeks and still praying for a miracle. Doubt at this point though..I know intelligender isn't reliable but even that gave a girl result.. was really mad at myself for wasting that 50.