swaying and sperm spinning

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

Well, there's lots of conflicting data out there but I have read quite a few studies that indicate that spinning may work for XY sperm because they use certain washing methods on the sperm as a part of the spinning procedure that sways blue, and also because IUI itself can sway blue.

Whereas the data I have seen indicate that the sperm spinning for a girl may not be actually doing anything but may be a result of the Clomid.

So I left out a bit of the equation there in the interest of time and preventing confusion since I knew you were interested in a girl. Personally, if those numbers are even accurate, I don't buy that it's the spinning for either gender, but that it's the chemistry of sperm washing and IUI for the boys and the Clomid for the girls. I just don't like to see people throw money at sperm spinning when the results of pg are so low. 75% does NOT mean that 75% of the ladies who have the procedure done get their desired gender, it's that (MAYBE because this has not been studied enough IMO) 75% of those who get pregnant get their DG.

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On a cycle with 2nd RE we used spinning, got a bunch of BOY embryos. Maybe it was a coincidence I don't know. Once I received the results I remember joking with embryologist saying what happened? Guess I wasn't terribly mad because 1)I knew that there was no guarantee at all 2) They didn't charge me the $800+ for the spinning.

Forgot to add that this was with a world known Doctor, not a back alley clinic!

I see badly timed IUIs happen ALL the time on FF. I'd go so far as to say that as many as half of IUIs are timed at least a day before or after O which means there is basically zero chance of conception. Despite what they claim about triggers, they are NOT exact, different women respond differently, and very often not on the expected timeline. And as atomic pointed out, some fail to O at all in response to a trogger (and or clomid/femara). Drs typically have tunnel vision and believe every women Os exactly X days after clomid and exactly X hours after trigger but in reality there is a huge amount of variation. And even ultrasound monitoring cannot predict O in advance with much accuracy.

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