Yay! Yes, brown is definitely old. Brown just means it didn't all come out at once. If something was still bleeding in there, you'd have pink or red, not brown. So no worries there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
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Yay! Yes, brown is definitely old. Brown just means it didn't all come out at once. If something was still bleeding in there, you'd have pink or red, not brown. So no worries there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
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I think the fastest safe way is to add an extra day between doses at each dose. I read this on another thread, but haven't checked it out IRL.Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
Thank you! I hope so. It's so hard not to worry. This early stage is a very strange sort of limbo land...Quote:
Originally Posted by Niva
Thanks honQuote:
Originally Posted by Niva
I think i'll wait for a BFP before adding in DHA, I know fish oil sways quite heavily blue as it boosts fertility and condition drastically and atomic is always saying how its preferable to loosen diet and add some things back in through eating, rather than adding vast quantities through supplements for TTC girl.
I spot from af to o, never o to af. I have never been able to find any info on what that means, most people spot from o to af, or directly before or after af (say 3 days either side). Mine is like bang in the middle of af to o and also close to o. I o late so that means I spot a fair way into each cycle which I worry is stopping proper implantation. Maybe the lining is weak? I NEVER, EVER spotted with ds 1 or 2. The spotting started before I even came off birth control this time, so its not swaying or le thats causing it, as I wasnt swaying back then... I am concerned but gp and fertility doc arent so I guess I have to finish these 3 cycles on clomid then go do my HSG before exploring that further.
That just looks perfect hon, try to relax (easier said than done).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
The way I think of it, say you relax totally and accept its a sticky one and the pregnancy will be healthy... Wouldn't that help it be? And if something did happen, would you really feel worse for believing it was going to be ok? Or would it hurt the same weather you were worried and protecting yourself or not?
Does that make sense? Basically I think embrace it, think yourself safe and healthy and it can only help bubs.
Brown is def old blood so I think its not a worry that you are still getting that.
oh and telling mum about the vego thing wouldn't work out, its a running joke in our house how much I love meat, and DH was a butcher when we met (now a carpenter) so that fuelled the teasing even more! She would never believe me.
I might tell her about TTC though. Will wait and see. She wants me to have a 3-4 year gap where i'm going for under 3 years (planned 2 but of course have been trying a year now) so I can't really be bothered telling her if she is going to bring any more pressure or negativity to it, you know?
Hey Tree and Mrs Blake there is a Due in Dec/Jan/Feb thread now for preggie ladies, check it out, lots of familiar names there. http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28174
Ah Meeks, you are so right!! Thank you! X
Still here ladies! I'm so sorry meeks to hear about another Chemical for you. I'm really happy to hear about your LP though! At least there was some goodness to the Clomid, but I'm really sorry to hear you've had to go through this again!
Tree - your BFP's look great! I'm not going to tell you not to worry because I'd be a total hypocrite.. but really, we shouldn't worry. I keep trying to tell myself exactly was Meeks said and to just enjoy it while it lasts.. whether that's another week or 37 weeks! The hardest part for me was having this cold because it made me feel so run down. At the time I thought a lot of it was preggo symptoms and one of the reason I actually tested early because of how exhausted I was. Now that the cold has cleared up I feel pretty good compared to how I did - so of course that has me worried! It's still so early though and I usually don't get hit hard with nausea until week 6 so I just keep telling myself that. I think I've probably brushed over my chest a million times in the last 2 days just to make sure things were still a little sensitive!!! I am crazy!
Thanks meeks for the due date club! and please keep us updated on your next cycle! I'm so interested to follow your journey and see how your next cycle on Clomid does.
For what it's worth, I had to completely stop the LE because I lost way to much weight and I almost lost O (still unsure if LE is actually what messed my LP up to begin with) so anyways, definitely don't feel bad if you have to ease up a bit. The fact your on Clomid is a huge win, I feel like that's one of the major sway factors. Even if you did nothing else, clomid is a super good sway!
I've not got any chest sensitivity but I didn't with ds2 either... Don't worry about not feeling horrendously ill, I am really hoping for a healthy pregnancy and no morning sickness, you can hope right!! :-)
Thanks Meeks for due date thread, will prob wait until I'm really sure to join!
That's a very good point with the supplement issue. If dha does sway blue at all, better not to take it in such concentration.Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
Glad to hear you don't spot at all before AF. Maybe that is why your RE wasn't worried about progesterone?
MsB and Tree: I know how hard it is not to worry! Such wise words from Meeks, though... I am pulling for you to both sail through the next few weeks and months and then really enjoy your pregnancies! :)
Meeks, just wondering what happened with your cycle in the end? Did AF show or are you still waiting?Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
Sorry I forgot you don't see signatures on your iPad (like me most of the time). Yes af arrived. 12 day luteal which is up from 10 but down from the soy iso cycle where I had 13. Had the only + on cd9 then af cramps and tests back to neg from cd 10. :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
Oh rubbish. I'm sorry. LP wise though that's great, 12 days even if you've had 13 is very conception friendly!Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
Fingers and toes crossed this is your month. You were planning to ease up on diet weren't you? So does that mean you'll eat more, or add more nutrients? I actually had a few nutritious cheats, just small ones... When I saw how bad my nails had got it kinda freaked me out. There is an actual line on all my nails between the grown out healthy shiny nail and the newer dull and very matt looking nail. It is quite an eye opener as to how diet effects our bodies!
Oh rubbish. I'm sorry. LP wise though that's great, 12 days even if you've had 13 is very conception friendly!Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
Fingers and toes crossed this is your month. You were planning to ease up on diet weren't you? So does that mean you'll eat more, or add more nutrients? I actually had a few nutritious cheats, just small ones... When I saw how bad my nails had got it kinda freaked me out. There is an actual line on all my nails between the grown out healthy shiny nail and the newer dull and very matt looking nail. It is quite an eye opener as to how diet effects our bodies!
The fact my temps dropped and I had af cramps from cd 10 doesn't make me that confident in the extended luteal. Its like it was extended technically but the cramps and temp drop still happened on cd10. Maybe its all going to help for next month.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
I am sticking to the calorie limits, but going to ease up on considering every little thing. No snacks, but adding in a small breakfast to make 3 meals in the day rather than 2. 1 piece of toast with jam and a coffee. It should help me feel like LE is less full on and it shouldn't be too far from the usual LE. Also i'm going to eat meat 3 times a week, but those days i'll make sure I keep other protein low so I can stay close to the limits. Basically i'll still be doing LE just rather than sticking to limits of everything so vigilantly i'll just loosen a bit. I had thought to drop it completely but i'll give it one more month just looser and see if thats enough. I might go over the limits slightly here or there but stick to basic principals. Thats what dreamofpink did last month on clomid and it got her a bfp...
How is everyone doing? I've just woken up from an awful nightmare!! In my dream I had a miscarriage and could see the little person. It was so real and so haunting. I think it's because I've booked a scan for next week... It means that either way the reality is waiting. I'm so frightened. I won't even be 6 weeks so there is a chance it will be inconclusive anyway. Oh the worrying, it's got me really bad.
I've not had anymore spotting in over a week now but it just has made me so nervous. I've miscarried before which I guess plays on my mind. But I suppose also its the fact that this pregnancy does seem a bit against the odds, and maybe a bit too good to be true....
Oh hon try not to read too much into the dreams, I have vivid dreams during pregnancy and also while on clomid, and usually they are a mash up of different topics, fears or thoughts from the day, they dont really mean anything, but I know how haunting they can be.
Last night I had a strange dream about me giving birth really fast (lol in real life my labour with ds1 was 48hrs active before ending in caesarian so couldn't be less true) then when the baby came out it was REALLY big and was a boy. In my dream I was really disappointed, but in real life i've started feeling i'd be ok with any gender. Then in the dream ds2 went over and cuddled the baby and I realised I was ok.
RANDOM. I don't read too much into it, its a mash up of things I have been thinking reading and feeling lately, and they aren't even all that accurate. But I've been thinking about it all day anyway. I really hate having such real dreams, I feel like I need to sleep again and dream something else just to overwrite it!
It's so strange isn't it. And yeah I feel too like I want a cleansing dream to better the horrible one... Still feeling a bit strange.
Think I'm just quite anxious about everything really. Plus hormones are probably doing strange things. I do tend to have a lot of nightmares and vivid dreams in pregnancy!
Tree I too had a dream about miscarrying last week. It was horrid whilst I was in the dream but when I woke up I felt like it really didn't connect with me if that makes sense. It must've been as a direct result of my constant worrying. I'm now 6 weeks pg, off for my booking appt with the midwife in 20 mins and have a niggling worry that they'll find out that actually I'm not pg at all, just imagining it! Totally irrational and crazy I know!! :D
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Woke up and went for a wee... More blood! Think a bit went in the loo. What I wiped was pinky brown. Do you think I'm having a mc? :-(
My dr told me to look for fresh blood with ds1, so pinky-brown isn't necessarily a freak-out sign. I had that around 6-7 weeks too, and they said it was probably blood left over from implantation. But call your doctor if you're worried! Let us know... Sending sticky bean thoughts your way.
Thank you! I hope it's nothing!! I've had nothing since. In fact it seems bizarre that there is no evidence of it even having happened. It's hard not to worry a bit... I will have a scan next week and hopefully then will understand what's going on, or fingers crossed at least have reassurance that everything is alright. I'll let you know either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niva
Thinking of you Tree! I'm sure it's nothing if it hasn't happened since. It seems like if it's continuous it's a problem. I know my SIL had something similar around 5-7 weeks with her first and he's a normal 3 year old boy! I hope it's nothing but I know it's hard not to worry!!! I'll be waiting for an update!
I've been so anxious the last few days that I can't sleep - I'm wondering if it's hormone related. I've stopped worrying about a MC and am now freaking out about something being wrong with the baby, or feeling like I'm betraying my two boys by having another.. it's all weird.. I just feel so down constantly - no excitement at all which is weird because we tried for a while for this baby and thought it might never happen which had me in tears at times! Hormones are weird!
I totally get the betrayal thing. I felt like that when I was pregnant with ds2 and when I found out this time too. It's like you don't want the kids you have to feel like they are not enough, because they are everything! The sleep issues I can also relate to, I've had such vivid and mainly unpleasant dreams as well as a sense of restlessness. Pretty sure the hormones are to blame!!
How far along are you now? Have you got a scan booked yet? The worrying is so difficult to ignore. And actually there has been quite a few sad stories and scares on the board lately which inevitably leads to thinking and more worry.
I'm starting to wonder if I might have a SCH because of the nature of the bleeds. Just little, turning to brown right away and then disappearing. I don't know of miscarriages that start this way, from what I've read the bleeding starts and continues, usually accompanied by pain and heavy red blood. But then my knowledge of miscarriages are pretty limited. I have been concerned about ectopic though as I've read about the unpredictable nature of them... I've had what's felt like ovulation pain but nothing significant. And then there is implantation bleeding... But surely that would happen around 4 weeks. It seems there are many instances of unexplained spotting too. Who knows. I just have to hope and pray everything is ok!!
Just back from my scan... Got to see my little person to be with a tiny flickering heartbeat. :-) She said the spotting must have been implantation!
Yay tree, so happy for you! Well done! Xx
So I decided to add my sway... http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-...y-attempt.html Wanted to wait until 12 weeks or a bit later at least but then realised I would forget things.
Been a bit crampy the last few days, particularly my back but I think it may be hormonal as it only hurts when I move heavy things or am awkward plus it feels more muscular. I still worry though.... Come on first trimester, hurry up!!!
Could it be round ligament pain, Tree? I read that started sooner in second pregnancies, and now I know it's true. At 11 dpo I started feeling that unmistakable pulling pain when I moved a certain way. It's not my back (it's just right of center, low down) but maybe that's what you feel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
That's exactly where it is!! I had no idea that was round ligament pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niva
Thank you!
Round ligament pain for me felt like someone stabbing me with a hot knife in both sides to the right almost where my ovaries were but down closer to the middle. So in between the middle and top of my hip bones. I had it horribly and early on both times. It was excruciating to laugh or cough when having the pain, like my sides splitting.
I did also have dull cramping in early pregnancy and a girlfriend that is pregnant now said she was sure af was coming and she would miscarry because she had exactly af like cramps the whole first 12 weeks but she is now 30 weeks and going fine. So cramps are normal hon, I'm positive you will be fine!!
Xx
8 weeks today and I had my follow up scan. Everything looks great and I've not had any spotting in weeks now, lets hope there isn't any more!
tree sorry havn't had tiome to read all answers but i thought i was ovulating from ff and very weak positive opks but i did blood tests with dr and some months i was ovulating some not - may combop b/f and LE diet too much for you to o normally for me i think it was le and stress ;-0
once i took clomid i got a 'proper' positve opk and was like ah i havn't seen one of those for a while - i kept assuming i'd missed the high point for a dark test if you see what i mean i think on refelction i wasn't o-ing. i was taking vitex and saw plamento which didn't help for me but i know vitex has helped others
good luck x
Well done, so glad to hear it! The scans feel like forever apart when you are worried don't they?! XxQuote:
Originally Posted by Tree
This is somewhat off-topic, Meeks, but I remembered something you said about your chemicals not registering on FRERs. I may be experiencing the same strange poas phenomenon with Internet cheapies vs. the FRERs and I'm trying to figure out what's causing it. Before a month ago, every IC bfn was a solid white bfn. But this cycle, I tested with ICs in the middle of the cycle (to make sure the chemical was gone) and they showed a faint but visible shadow. My blood HGC was <2 at that point -- well below the level of even the most sensitive test. Now, at both 7 and 8dpo, I tested and got the same shadow, but the frer was a blank white bfn. I used First Response, supposedly the most sensitive test available, so I doubt the IC is simply showing a true bfp really, really early.
I wonder if ICs are picking up another hormone other than HGC? A hormone that lasts even beyond the time HGC returns to normal after a chemical pg... Is this consistent with your experiences too?
For me, the ic's have only shown positive at 8-10 dpo, and my temps confirmed those were in fact months I had been pg then had a chemical. Frer has only showed pos for 2 of my 5 chemicals, and only faint even then. I found out frer are 25miu where the ic's I buy are 10. My lines weren't shadows though (some ic batches are horrid for colourless shadows and some are great) my ic's tended to show colour lines, within the time frame, unless I forgot and left them somewhere and went back, which did happen on occasion. When I tested after af once or twice to check af was in fact af, rather than just breakthrough bleeding, the ic's were stark white again. So I don't know, maybe you had a bad batch? When I look back at my positive ic's for my chemicals I can still see colour in the lines, and the lines are solid, not faint on one side and darker on the other like an evap...