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I think Atomic says BD at +OPK so maybe DTD again tonight so the sperm is there to meet the egg. What else are you incorporating into your sway? Antihistamine? Thinking it would be good to take one today in preparation.
I know how you feel... come on :pinksperm:
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Is anyone tempted to go to Dr. Potter's seminar in London? I know my husband would definitely say we can't afford to go HT but just curious.
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I think if it does happen this month it's meant to be. I think over all, this isn't a huge swaying factor. If you would feel better about it just skip this months bd at peak. But if your peak is soon then it could still happen.
Ok so maybe I'm not as generous as I'd like to be, if it was anyone else (like my friend who recently had her 2nd girl and really wanted a boy) if want them to be happy. I didn't even tell the one in the previous post about swaying. When my mean streak comes out I think I hope I get a girl and she gets a boy!! Lol
A mum at school turned up today with her baby who was born at the weekend. She has a 7 year old boy, and all I heard for weeks was about this girl she was having and all this stuff she'd for, and she turns up this morning with a BOY! Pretty much conforms for me that I will not be finding out. 2nd person I know recently at my hospital to be told girl and get boy. I know it happens but usually it's very few and far between.
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What's this seminar? I briefly looked at ht but couldn't justify the money, no matter how deep my desire. Maybe if I won the lottery. But the fact you can't do it in the uk just kind of closed the door completely on that one
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we was all up for going for ht with dr potter or dr savvas in cypus but it would mean waiting till nxt year to save and i was already feeling guilty as in most cases it takes at least 2 attempts, i couldnt justify spending that much, if we had the money i would defo be going to the seminar though, you can have a free skype consultation with dr potter anyway but he says its best to have your pre-testing done before you speak to him which mine came to around the 300 pound mark, thats why i decided to give swaying a go, sweetmummy ive been using hayfever tabs most days as im prone to it and me n hubbys gone veggies for the past month, dh takes the olive leaf n l-root and been releasing every day for past week, ive just been taking folic acid and diet coke, skipping breakie n aving two small meals a day i did use rehearsh the other day also, and i did put a pink babys dress under the matress for good luck lol, its prob all down to nature in the end though, but at least wer trying to push her in the rite way x
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Well I pushed myself to walk today. Looked like it was going to rain and I wasn't feeling it. I kept trying to convince myself I could skip this morning and that walking around the field at sports day this afternoon would be enough. But I thought what would happen to me is I would skip this morning then it would rain all afternoon and sports day would be cancelled. So I went for my walk. Got rained on. Now home and lunch eaten and the suns shining bright! Still it's done for today now.
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just done another clearblue test and im now on peak fertility, is it normal to have a totally negative result yesterday then a high one this morning then a peak tonight, seems to be happening fast i thought it would take a few days to change from high to peak, well im gona bd tonight aswel even though i did last night to higher my chances and then il leave it and see if i get a pos preggas test which will be when wer in spain on hols :) omg im so blinking excited, fingers crossed n lots of pink dust please girls for my little bluebell to hopefully stick :ttc:
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Sending pink dust your way butterfly!
Yes just looked at the prices for HT no way we can justify that cost but am excited to give swaying a go!
Well done mob for doing your walk! It's sooo hard when you see the rain but just think of your goal! Exciting! Feel sorry for the mum at the school but does make me wonder if I'll find out when/if it happens. I want to as didn't find out with either ds1 or ds2 and can't bear the thought of feeling the anxiety again before baby is born as I did with ds2. However I've already decided if I do find out I won't be telling anyone either way as don't want to hear peoples hurtful comments if it's a boy and just incase the scans wrong if they say girl. It will also mean I don't have to watch what I'm saying if it us a girl around people who I know would've loved a girl so can't make them feel bad even though it'd be unintentionally! Iykwim? Lol
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Fingers, legs and eyes crossed for you butterfly!!! This could be it :) I had the exact same thing happen...fading in OPKS which then went negative and then a blinding positive one. How exciting!!!! Your sway sounds really good too x
MOB well done for doing your walk...it always bloody rains just when you need it not too right.. like school run, food shopping being brought in, etc.
Foxy that is soooooo considerate of you to think of others WHEN you get your girl!!
Figured HT would be crazy expensive but £300 for pre-testing alone definitely puts us out of that option. Guess I won't be going to the seminar lol Loving giving swaying a go though as I won't know til I try I suppose.
OBEM was fab as usual and less graphic than last week luckily so no weird stares at the gym lol xxx
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I missed it again! Got them recorded though.
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I'm stressing about my cycle now. It looks like I may well have a short lp again. I don't want to take b6 this time if so as I've seen it can sway boy. I should be gearing up to O soon if I was going to have a decent length lp but so far no signs.
I won't be finding out next time. I always wanted a 'surprise' but was far too impatient with ds1 and then with the others I needed to know in case it was a girl. Ds4 I found out early because of gender desire. So if it's the last one I'm having the experience of a surprise (although not much of a surprise after 4 of the same lol)
I think even if you had no gender desire what do ever, being told the opposite, then finding out it was wrong at birth, could cause you to feel some GD just because you have built up this image of who you are having and this bond with this child, and then been presented with the opposite gender, a completely different person from who you were expecting.
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Have you spoken to atomic on any ideas what you can do to lengthen your lp without ruining your sway? Am sure she'll be able to help!
Know what you mean shout wring sex when I was pregnant with ds1 DH and I were our for a meal and the waitress there said she'd had a lady in the day before who was crying and she asked her what was the matter and she said she'd been told girl and given birth to a boy, she was especially upset that day as she was taking back all the pink things she bought and also she felt like she'd lost her daughter as she'd imagined her growing up her wedding etc etc and now was feeling awful but feeling guilty for the way she felt too! A feeling we all know too well sometime I think!
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Oh and yes obem was cute! Wasn't surprised that gym man and his wife had a boy though! How much testosterone was flowing through his veins!! fair play to him though for turning his life around!
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I haven't yet as I want to see what's going on. Last month I didn't have any conformation of O, and have yet to O this month so it's just suspicion ATM.
I have done today's walk, but have change things up a bit. I had been walking from just before 11, and finishing my walk at preschool just before 12. Then lunch when I got back. But the not eating and then pushing myself with the walk was worrying me. I'm not having a gentle stroll, I end up puffing and panting lol and also a bit light headed. So I've descended I'm going to have a late breakfast/early lunch. Around 10/10:30 then do my walk. Then not have lunch and only eat dinner in the evening. That way I will have eaten something rather than exercising on empty, and get a longer break between my 2 meals. Plus because the big boys are not here and ds4 can't ask for what I'm eating I can have some of the things I really want instead of a healthy lunch sometimes. Plus I'm sure I read that eating right after exercising isn't a good swaying girl idea, as it's kind of like telling your body you won the fight for food.
I found my push to keep going though. And it is, if I stop exercising now, I know in a week I'll be back to being so desperate that I think I have to do the exercise and will start up again and then I'll keep switching between the 2 and end up not doing enough each week, making it 'moderate exercise' which sways boy.
I think this is going to be key for me. I don't think I have much hope of a girl, and I'm not swaying girl, I'm just trying to avoid swaying boy.
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Cannot imagine being told girl and having a boy! Even if it was my first I would have been really sad. Praying this doesn't happen for any of us!
The dad was so sweet bless him...wanting to call the baby Zeus lol They had two girls and a boy and that was their fourth which was a boy and she was a gym bunny so probably why they have two girls first I thought!? I'm always analysing what people have and what may have been going on in their lives for them to have that gender...sad I know lol
Good plan with the walking after brekkie MOB so you're not going to faint from hunger! I went to the gym this morning after my usual session last night and wanted to die....was so hard to do it back to back. Had to as DH is off to his bosses house tonight to watch the footie so no one to watch the boys. I'm finding myself working my day around finding the hour to exercise which so far has worked but can see how frustrating it will get esp if I get a BFN this cycle.
Forgot to tell you ladies I got a BFN last cycle (can't remember of I did or didn't say) as I got AF at 11dpo so may have a short LP too if the same happens this cycle. Fingers crossed we both get it sorted MOB.
How you doing Foxy? Have you had an attempt yet?
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Mob I think you're right about eating after exercise giving your body the signal you've won! Makes total sense! Def makes sense to eat before!!
Hope your lp verb out for both of you!
No I haven't made an attempt yet I'm defo in too much of a stressy/planning mood that all the exercise and LE diet would be wasted as my Martha would win through and produce a boy! Lol! Think once either the house is ready to sell or sold I'll really relax and stop planning everything (I hope!) so I can then make an attempt!
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Ha ha I do that too, thinking yeah I can see why you got that gender.
I think as long as you have 9/10 days or more you are ok as and egg takes 7-9 days to reach the uterus and implant.
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Awwww I forgot foxy...totally agree your house move is gonna raise t through the roof!
Thanks for the info mob...this is all new to me as my DH and I used to just DTD any old random time and have two boys from it lol
Are any of you members or heard of the NCT? Just read an article in their NCT Matters which talks about the difference between the genders , why toys are gender specific, etc. and actually quotes Shettles method!! I was shocked!! Made it sound like it was a bible quote...feel like I want to educate people bow...don't they know how ridiculous it sounds!?
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I only know because mine was 6 days last time. I've always just dtd whenever. Or when we were really trying hard every day/every other day.
Because dh age we can't abstain and when we were dtd every day we just didn't get pregnant and I don't know if it possibly lowers the count too much for some older dads. So I'm going to bite the bullet on this one, and go for every 4 days. I don't know when to expect O and once I've confirmed I am Oing with a decent length lp I want to step away from the opks and temping. It's just another obsession. So every 4 days will give a chance to catch the egg. Atomic said it's ok to go 4 days with his age, and that although it's technically boy timing, it can work.
I've heard of the NCT but not a member.
I was thinking earlier about how people would think we sounded mad if they heard our conversation "tricking your body into thinking it won the fight for food" and such. The amount of people though that I've seen say "we'd like a boy/girl next time so going to try shettles" and I've tried not to sound like a crazy person when saying noooo! Or even in GD forums when people have said diet and exercise are complete rubbish, and timing has been 'scientifically proven' !!!
And gender specific toys and boys and girls being different,I personally think it's mainly to do with personality. All my boys are different and have their own interests and temperaments.
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Oh my when people tell me that Shettles is scientifically proven I want to scream in their face! Lol! God knows how AS must feel when she puts her heart and soul into this! I want to point people in this direction but as most people besides my mum and sister don't know we're planning on swaying I don't want to give the game away! Once we are pregnant though I will be pointing everyone who mentions shettles to this website! Then hopefully I'll have a girl and prove that this is the way and be able to pay it forward somehow!
Oh but when people look at me and say 2 boys? You should've tried timing!!! Ha yes because if I'd have conceived on any other day he'd have been a girl! Wtf!?! Lol! Glad I've found this website now though and believe we've found it at the time were meant to as all our DS's are meant to be here! Now it's our turn for our daughters to join us!
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Yes I agree, sometimes I think "I wish I'd known this before" then I stop and say no I don't because I wouldn't have some of my boys.
No one knows we are even planning another let alone swaying. But when people tell me about timing I just say that I know exactly when my timing was and that some of my boys have 'girl' timing.
Today's wall went well, I think. I am sure I kept my usual pace, and my legs still ached and I was swearing my my pony tail falling out. But my heart wasn't trying to break out of my chest and I wasn't puffing and panting so hard. Maybe I'm actually getting fit!
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Love that foxy...you're so right!! I did Google how to get a girl before we had DS2 and found stuff like shallow release, etc. and didn't want to do all the craziness they were taking about so here he is!! Cannot wait to say... Shettles is rubbish..after we have DD1 ;)
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Good on ya mob!!! Keep up the good work hunnie xx
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Just realised all the typos in my last post. I was sweating not swearing lmao
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Lol mob! Think it's fair game to be saying I'll be swearing after my workouts! Lol! Good for you on getting fitter! Great you're still sweating though! Thank goodness we've got better weather to do walking in!
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I know it's so much better, but also doesn't help with the sweating lol
I've been out this evening. The majority of my calories today came from cider lol
My friend had a party lite party at her house just up the road.
Just got home now. The freedom!!
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So last night, at my friends, there was a friend of hers who I don't really know and I'd been talking to the ones I do know saying that the possibility of 1 more hasn't been completely ruled out and she asked how many I had so I just said 4 and she was like "and your NOT saying no to another?" Then a bit later they were talking about kids films and I admitted I hadn't seen anything like frozen and tangled etc and said my boys won't watch things with princesses cos they think they are for girls. This idea hasn't come from us, I've tried to get them to watch things with me, they just won't. So at that point she asked if I had all boys, and I of course said yes and she said "4 boys! It gets worse!!"
She hadn't even had a drink as she was driving. After she and a few others had left and it was just the ones I know left everyone was laughing about how blunt she'd been and how she didn't care what she said, but that bits stuck with me. Like everyone must think that but just not say.
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Bloody insensitive people!! Why did she say that for? She doesn't even know you or your boys!! Ridiculous!! I would have been the same though...so gobsmacked I wouldn't have known what to say.
Please do not take it to heart and on the contrary this should motivate you even more to "go for your girl". Although having said that whether it is a boy or girl I'm sure you will love it just as much anyway. Just sad we need to justify to people our want for more children and one of an opposite gender to what we have.
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Before i knew gender this time, i was preparing my responses to justifying my 4th boy. Sad isn't it? eEpecially when now im having a girl everyone i tell from acquaintances i know from years at toddlers and nursery etc to family all look emotional and so happy for us! Which is lovely but i know it would have been a different story with anyone outwith my close friends and patrnts/sister :( I make it clear we were out to even the numbers! Anyhow, my favoured reply was going to be "wow, how rude" said with a smile for those needing a blunt response. And "hands full and hearts full of love, not so bad really!!" for those i felt the need to be tactful but straight with. So hard tho, when someone stuns you with their belief they have the right to comment on your family, as if!! Big hugs xx
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Everyone there had 1-2 children, I was once again in the situation of 'only one with out a girl' and those with more than 1 had both genders. I rolled out my old "I always wanted all boys, didn't think it would happen so just hoped if get at least 2 boys first" and also "once you have 4 boys you need to go for that last to complete the football team" it's sad we have to justify it. I bet if I had a mix then I would still be told I was crazy to want more. I also got "can you not just get a telly?" Why is it so bad to want lots of kids? To enjoy being a mum so much and raising children and want to do it again. I wanted 5-6 anyway even when I just had one and assumed I would have a completely balanced family.
Anyway LE diet is out the window today. Think I had a little too much last night, I'm not used to drinking lol I've already had weeatbix, a ginger bread man and a big lump of cheese. And it's not even 10.
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What a horrible woman! How rude! Who does she think she is?? Things like this infuriate me how dare she pass judgement when she's doesn't know you or your children! I think people that say oh 4 boys or 4 girls have both genders but they have difficult children so they think all of that gender is the same as theirs....if that makes sense? Regardless of gender kids are kids and some are more trying than others but no matter what gender they are its parenting.I see far too many spoilt children unfortunately and their parents are always the ones that commiserate me on having two boys! Ha well I commiserate them for having children who run wild are rude and they'll have their work cut out when they're older....At least my boys behave!
Hold your head up high mob your boys are a great reflection on you and you rock!
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I was stalking but just had to say that MOB that woman needed a slap. On the having more comment I always say " I'm not asking you to look after them am I?" And as for the boy comment I would have said "yes and it's awful women like you that make me glad they ARE boys" wench lol sorry for butting in!
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Thankfully I don't have to see her again. The ones I see regularly all have kids at the boys schools and didn't make any comment.
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I think it's those kinds of people/comments that make our gd so much worse. I'm always so defensive and on my guard when people ask how many/what gender my kids are.
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I'm very defensive of all boy families. Or I guess all 1 gender. There's one person I know that likes to butt in when ever someone asks how many kids I have, mostly they see me with DS4 and ask if his my 1st, I reply 4 and they go "wow" and she goes "all boys too!" I don't see why that should make a difference to anyone else. Then again, she has 1 child. A girl.
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Tell me about it. I don't know what business it is if anyone's how many children another person chooses to have. You see it in reverse too, people telling those who only have 1 and feel they are done, that their child needs a play mate and it isn't fair for them to be an only child. Yet give them more than 1 sibling and people start judging you on that. Or give them a sibling of the same gender and you've messed up on that part too. And it seems as soon as you get one gender, any child after that must be purely to get the opposite. It's almost like they are not people. They are accessories and if you don't have 1 of each your missing one of the 'must have' pieces of fashion. I know it works both ways and there are women desperate for boys.
Sorry ranting a bit, as I also saw a friend yesterday day time, the one who rudely told me I shouldn't have any more because I'd get boys, she has 1 of each. She seemed to be trying to find something to compete over. She even resorted to children's show sizes, asking what size ds3 was then telling me her daughter who is 9 months younger than him has a size bigger feet. Because this obviously makes all the difference in life. Felt like saying well you are old than me and my feet are bigger than yours! She also basically told me that I let the boys do too many clubs because she "couldn't be doing with all the running around" her kids do 1 club a week each. Mine do 2 sessions of judo, 1 of karate, beavers/cubs and football every week. I know some people think it's a lot but if it makes them happy then it makes me happy and there are life skills to be learnt in each, like discipline, and working as a team.
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So, this came up in my Facebook news feed. Brought tears to my eyes.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/22/6e5ajaza.jpg
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Oh yes! I saw that on twitter it's adorable. I hope you get to take a pic like that of your kids one day. Hope I get to do it the other way round lol
I think it's amazing that your kids do so much I'd love to get mine into more things. I hate that people say " oh we have one of each now so we're done" it's like don't you just want kids? Not some stupid idea of the perfect little family. I wouldn't have stopped at 2 no matter what lol
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I remember seeing this ages ago but couldn't remember the specifics! We could do that with dss and our 3 boys. Dss is 18 this year tho, not sure he'd be up for it lol xx
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