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AFM - I am working lots now. I go to gym once a day for an hour or hr and half. I am not hardcore yet, just a walk on treadmill on a good incline and a go on the x trainer.
Have dropped 2kgs already.
Sorry for not being here lately... my sister went to hospital and we are not sure how long she will be there for :(
Dreamt last night I gave birth to a boy and I had to keep looking and clearly remember saying "I need to check his pee pee has not fallen off and turned in to a girl" LOL
Alexis: Are you having any trouble sleeping while drinking green tea? I notice every day that I drank it with lunch, I could fall asleep that night.
No, no trouble sleeping at all though today is only the 2nd day drinking it. I have a high tolerance for caffeine though. It's what I use to live on lol. How many cups are you drinking each day?
I'm getting about 3,800mcg folic acid per day so I think I'm good there.
How much EPO are you all taking? Wondering if I should increase to 3,000 mg everyday instead of 2,000?
Alexis;is there too much folic acid intake?I'm sure I read somewhere that you should not take too much per day,what's the limit?also I've been taking 2000 of epo too. Think I'm gonna get af,due in 2days:-( oh well,cAnt expect a one hit wonder this time around(hAd it 2out of3 previous pregnancies before)
Wp- i'm caffeine sesative and got the decaf green tea, same benefits no problems.
Jane- I've found two completely different takes on folc acid -1- don't worry about too much. It doesn't build up in your system, you'll pee out the excess -2- don't take more then 1000mcg it can cause b-12 deficiency in rare cases. Sorry I know that doesn't help but the sway policy is if you're doing the drinks up it, if you're not as pH obsessed the standard 400 is fine.
Ams I'm so sorry to hear about your loss ... you sound as though you are handling it well though and I'm glad to hear that. FX when you do try again you have a super sticky blue bean :hugs:
I second the decaf green tea!! I'm not very caffeine sensitive either, but I figure less is better when TTC so went with decaf.
What up Tink!!! You're getting so close :bigsmile:
Lola are you testing today?!?! 9 dpo right?!?! Oh how I am hoping so much for a BFP!!!
Jane, if you've got a good history with the OHW you know you'll be seeing that BFP soon. FX for next cycle!
Hi 5!!! Glad to hear the weight loss is going well!!! Hope all is well with your sis and soon!
Well, I inadvertantly picked up these FR Rapid Result tests instead of the Early Response.....the RR is much less sensitive- 100mui vs 25 on the early response, so I was pissed about that but took one anyone, of course stark white. I would have to have triplets to have that much hcg right now. So I'm going to get regular early response ones today and test tomorrow. DO NOT buy the Rapid Result unless you plan on testing the day AF is due or after!!!!! For us FRER fans, they are NOT the same. Why can't they make them get early AND rapid results? DAMN YOU FIRST RESPONSE.
Green tea: go for decaf, it's better for fertility anyway. Yes, you want to take a B complex with extra FA. I got one that was cheap at Target and is a Folic 800mg + B12. EPO: I think 1200mg is the max you want to take.
Alexis, I totally hear you about the cost of having a kid. It is crazy. I had this weird thought last night about how I would love it if I could just have my baby at home like EVERYONE used to do just a little over 100 years ago. With a midwife, but you would just pay her like a small fee to attend you. Heck, I was even thinking what if I asked my awesome doctor who I've seen for like 8 years who doesn't do OB anymore because of insurance costs to just come over and I'd pay her like $500 to just deliver me at my house as a "friend" and then we'd go to the doctor tomorrow. If I needed an ambulance, I'd get one. I'd just act like she was my friend with some experience, not like hold her liable or anything at all. But then I feel like everyone would think that's crazy. Maternity care is so expensive too, even with insurance. It is so ridiculous. My insurance decided not to cover my 2 u/s before and after my loss in May, so now I owe the doctor's office $500 for those. YAY. I will get off my soapbox now, I just get so frustrated with doctors and insurance and costs and all. What do people do when they have no money and get pg? I guess just go to the free clinic and then the ER when they go in labor. Anyway, I can understand your DH's worry about the costs, they are real and they are high. We always had to get a payment plan, which was fine. Alexis, do you have to have a section or would you consider a vbac? They are WAY cheaper.
Lola- grr for grabbing the wrong test, I agree fast and early!
If you have no money you go on medicaid like my bil and his worthless gf and make everyone else pay for it. Can you tell I'm a bit bitter about system abusers? Lol
Our homebirth was definitely cheaper than our hospital birth. Maternity is so expensive indeed. Heck this swaying business aint cheap either haha.
Can you pls add me:
♥ Princess of Pink
♥ Swayer in waiting (Nov)
♥ TTC DC #6 (5 girls)
♥ Modified version of the High Everything diet so as not to gain weight, but eating healthy, high in protein, fruit and veg (and salt). Supps: Sustained Release Multi + Antioxidants (Blackmores) 1 tab, Total Calcium, Magnesium + D3 (Blackmores) 1 tab, Fish Oil 1000 (Blackmores) 1 tab, Chromium Max (Maintains healthy blood glucose levels) 2 tab, Nails, Hair & Skin (Blackmores) 2 tab, Folic Acid 500mcg 3 tab, Fusion Green Tea 1 Tab, Royal Jelly 1 Tab. From AF-O: Ural x2 per day and CD 12-14: Robitussin Tabs x2/3 times per day. I'll use preseed w/ instead cup and I'll probably do BSF the day of attempt.
Kris-yep we have to pay unless you're on Medicaid which is our free healthcare for low income. I have a $1,000 deductible I have to meet before the insurance will comer their 80% of the hospital and OB bill. So that's $1,000 deductible plus about $1,500 for the hospital/OB bill!!! For DD2, we only paid out $200 total!! DH has a different job now than he did then though.
Lola-I've had 2 c-sections already so there's no going back now! lol And 3 is the limit so only 3 kids for me :( DD1 was breech and we elected a repeat for DD2 at doc's recommendation.
Alexis- Our first dd we paid a $15 copay ( awesome insurance), dd2 was just the 20%, but dd3 and this one is a $5000 deductible before they cover at 80/20 so when your dh whines tell him it could be way worse lol
Will your dr only do three? I know lots of people who've had 4 or more c-sections.
Aw Lola, that sucks about the tests, I hope you get a better result with a FRER.
TTC5, so nice to see you around. Hope your sister is okay.
Alexis, just curious, why three c-sections the limit? I had to have one with dd (pre-eclampsia) and wasn't really worried about having more--I know a lady who had five sections and her doctor did say that was the limit for her but I figured we can't afford five so it isn't an issue.
DH and I are both teachers and we probably paid $2000 or a little less for everything from the first appointment through the birth with dd. I figure with a section and an almost week long hospital stay because my bp was so high, that's not bad.
Oh wait, what is this about folic acid? Can you take too much? I have been taking about 2400 mg a day.
I'm on CD10 today. Dtd yesterday for the hell of it and then I think I'm going to probably wait until I see a burst of cm (usually three days before O) and then do either 0-3 and 0-1 or 0-2 and O if I can manage it. I will need to hit the morning of O if at all and that will have to be on a weekend. Hopefully it will hit next weekend, that's about the time of last month. We'll see. I've been doing bsd once a day, all my supplements including 2000 mg epo which makes tons of cm for me, starting Robitussin again tomorrow, been drinking coconut water, eating lots of beef with tomatoes and potato slices....salty pretzels, grilled salted chicken, Wheaties, lemon tea with Stevia at least once a day, V-8 fusion, raisins.....sigh. Hope it works!
Daisy-no you can't take too much folic acid. You pee out what you don't need.
3Pink-wow!!! Now that's a lot of money to have a baby!! OMG If DH had his full 3 years in at his job, they'd cover 90/10 after the deductible. Who knows the deductible may go down then too! He's only been there a year and kinda wants to wait on another baby but I don't lol.
I'm pretty sure my doc said 3 is the limit on the c-sections. It has a lot to do with scar tissue and stuff. I will definitely ask him again though just to be sure. I would like 4 babies but it would be a LONG time before I could convince DH of that!!!! LOL!! I think the only reason he agreed to 3 is because we have 2 girls. If we'd had a boy last time, I'm pretty sure we'd be done now!
Another issue with the insurance is DH wants me to get a tubal while in surgery. But I told him that's just more money we'll have to pay out then. I said why don't you just get snipped. It'd be way cheaper and less invasive/side effects. My sisters fiancé got it done and said it's not bad at all!! But I'm going to TRY to get on Medicaid this time but doubt we'll qualify. But if I do (and doc says no more babies), I'll end up getting my tubes tied for sure!
Alexis- yup it's a lot of money but to lower the deductible ups our monthly so high it basically evens out lol Funny thing is dh works for a company that handels Medicare and individual plans but the employee insurance still pretty much sucks. They only started offering it a few years back and it gets a little better every year so soon it'll rock lol
I'm kind of a crazy lady when it comes to having babies. I labor at home as long as possible, no epidural if I can possibly avoid it and check out as soon as they'll let me. W/dd3 I was out of there less then 12 hrs after birth and only in the hospital for about 18 hrs ttl so that really keeps it cheap. We've never actually paid 5k that's just what the deducible is.
Oh and check with your insurance, some cover tubals and/or vasectomys. If they cover him and not you that pretty much ends the discussion in my book lol
Thanx for the info on folic acid.well,I'm 13dpo,tomorrow is af day and I'm positive it's coming so I'm gonna plan my next 2weeks....does this get any easier?
Oh i see, that's not cheap! I could have my baby for free but that's in a public hospital which isn't something i want. I visited a friend after she had her baby, she was sharing with 3 other women and had to deal with all their dr's coming in and all their visitors and screaming kids running in and out. I've got private health insurance and will be having a c-section, so private room and better care i reckon.
Oh mama, with that history there's absolutely no reason you can't have a vbac....
and yes I agree that 3 sections is a good limit as it's so much more dangerous the second, third, fourth time around.
eta: I probably shouldn't get into birth talk since I'm really passionate about it. So anyone interested in vbac feel free to pm me and I'll share some links. :hugs:
Ethel Kennedy had 11 C-sections, so maybe your dr might consider 4th for you ( some day)?
Of course, if there is any chance for VBAC, maybe give it a chance :agree: Here on this forum is lady who had VBAC after 2 C-sections, she is TTC boy, I'll check her name, something like FamilyofFiveRoses :agree: Maybe she can share her experience with you. Mochagirl (TTC girl) also had VBAC after C-section with twins.
The medical costs just sounds so strange to me from the UK, we honestly don't realise how good we have it here. The mediacal insurance sounds so confusing??If anyone has a minute could you post a brief description of how it works please. If you had no insurance and your husband had just started a job, if there was a nasty accident or someone in the family became suddenly gravely ill, what would happen?? In the UK we just go to the hospital, receive all care and medicine for free, then fingers x'ed just go home!
Lola, nightmare on the wrong tests!! MAybe its a sign so that when you do get the right ones those lines are gonna be unmisable!!!!
I've also seen a lady over on IG who had had about 10 sections! I think it all comes down to scar tissue doesn't it!!
Elp- if you have no insurance and don't qualify for govt assistance you don't go to the hospital/dr's unless you absolutely have to because you'll be footing the whole bill yourself. A lot of dr's/hospitals won't even treat someone who's uninsured.
I took a dollar tree test this morning....BFN.
I wish AF would just come. It feels like I am pg though, I wish the symtoms would just go away (or get a + on a test). I even woke up Sunday morning at 3am starving, after trying for an hour to tell myself I wasn't hungry, I got up and ate a Lara bar. I had a normal dinner the night before and a snack before bed. I just don't know about this crazy cycle. I am not even cramping or anything, my temp was still up this morning, and I have bad nausea. I have had the dollar tree tests work in the past... I just don't know what to think. My LP has always been 14 even when BF. Normally I just test and get a + or have AF on day 13-14.
Sorry to rant, this is just so weird for me. Today we started school, so not the best day to be having a mood swing.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ladies.
What dpo are you atm WP??
Hey ladies. I am SUPER SAD. BFN this morning, and I really don't feel pg at all. My boobs are not sore at all, and when I'm pg, they would be huge heat balloons already. I felt like this would be it with the Clomid. I am not sure what to do now, I guess try again. I don't know what the problem is. All of my testing checked out perfectly. SIGH.
And I had a vbac also, I am a huge proponent of them, it is a MUCH better birth experience, easier recovery, and way cheaper. Alexis, when you do get pg, let some of us ladies tell you our stories, you will see that the doctors and medical system aren't always right. There is no reason in the world why you couldn't try for a vbac third time around if you wanted to. You would not believe how much better the whole having a baby thing is when you don't have major abdominal surgery to deal with as well. Of course, no judgement at all, I just hate how the US medical system treats pregnancy and childbirth.
When I had DD1, I did whatever my doctors said. I ended up having a 33 hour back labor with a posterior baby, and then being put in an assembly line for a section. I was the 3rd of 4 lined up. I am surprised they didn't line us up in the hall in our beds. My doctors did NOTHING to help me labor better, to help her turn, nothing. When I had DD2, I went to the medical school library and checked out books and read on websites and talked to women who had vbacs, and I learned my rights as a patient and a pregnant women. Since I had moved to a new town between the two, I went to the "best" all-women practice here, and when the doctors told me I was endangering myself and my baby to try for a vbac, when they shook their heads at me like I was a stupid hippie or something, I told them to F OFF and went to a different practice where they had midwives who were laid back and also hired a private doula to help me throughout pregnancy and birth as well. She taught me methods to "spin" my baby if she was posterior again, just simply positioning of the body, and she taught me how to get through labor naturally. Anyway, I ended up having an amazing birth, although I labored for 14 hours and caved and got an epidural at the last minute because I was so tired and in so much pain. But it was HEAD AND SHOULDERS above a c-section in terms of birth experience, and I was up and walking in an hour, it was amazing. I highly recommend trying it out if you have any inkling of a desire to do so. Odds are very high (and NOT what the doctors tell you) that all will be just fine. Just remember that doctors A) make more money when they do sections, B) have easier schedules and don't have to run out in the middle of the night for labors, and C) have lower malpractice insurance premiums because they don't do vbacs. (Which is bogus because there are more bad things that happen from sections than vbacs.) MY DOCTOR who is awesome (as referenced in my other post about wanting her to come over as a friend and deliver me, which she would probably do) told me because she got so fed up with the whole OB/maternity bullcrap with practices and hospitals and insurance that she dropped it and unfortunately for me, just does GYNO only now. Anyway, that is my story!!!
So sorry Lola. When is AF due?
I am 14dpo.