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July 14th, 2016, 03:30 AM
Girlieplease

Can you not convince your dh to have another go? You always have a shot at blue and remember you have been following the boy diet and that is a big sway factor, so that still counts irrespective of the number of attempts. I conceived ds2 ( I was not swaying at the time) with one attempt in the fertile window about 2 days before o. I had a very blue lifestyle at the time, which I did not know at the time! Good luck x
July 14th, 2016, 03:36 AM
jennypenny

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Originally Posted by baby2016baby

jenny I am in the uk. Firstly you need to have 21 day blood tests. Although called this as others have said they need to be roughly 6/7 days after ov, 21 days is besed on a perfect 28 day cycle. This will tell if you are ovulating or not. You may need to go back for 2 of these over 2 months. Next port of call is clomid. In the uk they seem reluctant to hand it out, mainly because unlike in the USA or elsewhere, clomid alone will not have you monitored with scans etc to check for follicle growth or to ensure no OHHS. You should get clomid no bother from a gp but they will usually only give you 3 cycles on it. After then unfortunately you need to refer for further testing usually at an assisted fertility unit where they can do scans, take further blood tests and discuss where to go next. If its a blockage on your tubes etc it can be treated. The main hurdle you may face is sadly, like me, you have children already and depending where you live etc you will not qualify for free treatment to conceive or IVF. Obviously if you need to go down one of the more extreme ways to conceive be prepared to have to pay privately :( Fingers crossed it wont come to that but just so your aware theres only so far you can go with the NHS when you have children already. IVF in the UK costs between 5-7k depending on why its needed and for me, if I'm paying that, I'm going abroad for PGD to get the sex I want. You cannot specify which sex you want over here as its illegal :( grrr......

I'm hoping it will be something simple sorted so go back, see another GP and say you don't think you are ovulating and you have been tracking it for months. Blood tests should be first then clomid if you are found to be not ovulating. If you are I'm afraid it will be a sperm count for your DH and a scan for you to check for anything abnormal physically. Don't just let them fob you off. all the luck in the world xxx

Thank u so much for all your advice! !
It is so great to 'talk ' to people who have gone through the same situation.

It sounds like a long process, but it will be my only option.

I know what you mean about already having kids, the doctors original sympathetic face vanished when I said I already have two sons. Could almost read his thoughts in a little bubble about his head!
"Well she already has two children, it's not as big a deal"

Anyway thanks for your help :)
Good luck to everyone else testing fx fx fx

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July 14th, 2016, 03:42 AM
Burakoam

I am just still in shock I guess. I've had the worst 3 days in history as far as stress goes and I'm ovulating now and not when I was cool/relaxed during the weekend? Just doesn't make sense. My body is all sorts of confused. Yes I have been following the boy diet but it's still so nerve wrecking... Your story about 2 days from o and still having a boy helps though..I'm going to try jumping hubby in the AM
July 14th, 2016, 04:12 AM
maggie84

This is not accurate. Progesterone levels should be tested 7dpo (that is when they peak), which varies a lot! That will be 7 days before your AF if you do have 14 days luteal phase, but in the case you don't then it is just wrong.

I just had progesterone tested today and it is CD24 for me. Doctors will like to see progesterone levels >10 in a normal cycle and >15 in medicated cycles (which is my case). I will have the results tomorrow! FX I ovulated and the precribed medication is working!

I think you should find another doctor if you don't feel confortable with this one...

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Originally Posted by jennypenny

Waste of time at gp!

He had no idea what he was doing! Spent most of the time trying to get me to order a book called 'understanding fertily ' he sat browsing through Amazon for 10 minutes looking for it!!!- even after I had told him I already understand my fertily.

He then looked through a doctor's book admiring the layout, and found something about testing progesterone.

He said to come back one week before my next period is due to test progesterone levels. Does anybody know if this sounds correct?

So stressed out!

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July 14th, 2016, 04:29 AM
maggie84

Just wanted to add, that since yesterday I am having light cramps, and a lot of pain in my lower back and hips. Just reminded me I had this extreme hip pain the day prior to implantation bleeding on my first pregnancy. It was so bad I was having problems walking and had to take ibuprofen (in my mind that cycle was ruined because I BD 5 days prior to ov). I don't know if it was a pregnancy related symptom, I never thought about it like that... until yesterday!

I don't have AF cramps until the day before, and it's still a week until my period is due! I am hoping this is a good sign...

Anyone had cramps/ back pain around 6-7 dpo and then got a BFP?
July 14th, 2016, 04:47 AM
jennypenny

Thanks! I plan to go and see a different doctor just to clarify everything and get things all sorted in my head!

Thanks everyone x

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July 14th, 2016, 06:21 AM
Linnea

Maggie84 i experience the exact same thing, which I also did with my first child before bfp. Definitely think it's a good sign! I am 9 dpo and have had two temp rises since ovulation.. :pray::fingers::DD:
July 14th, 2016, 08:39 AM
Burakoam

I don't know about cramps with implantation but I had god awful cramps at 3 am. I woke up to rock 9 month old back to sleep and as I laid in bed I would have swore AF was coming for a good 20 minutes :(.

I did manage to convince hubby but not sure it did any good since he wouldn't move cause he was tired so the best I got was me on top and now I'm laying in bed struggling to keep any in. Also sneezed like a minute after flipping in my back... TTC struggles...
July 14th, 2016, 09:26 AM
baby2016baby

ahh its no bother, hope you get sorted either way. I needed some help with my first then had 2 natural. However I'm thinking I need help this time so preparing myself! bodies they are strange things

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Originally Posted by jennypenny

Thank u so much for all your advice! !
It is so great to 'talk ' to people who have gone through the same situation.

It sounds like a long process, but it will be my only option.

I know what you mean about already having kids, the doctors original sympathetic face vanished when I said I already have two sons. Could almost read his thoughts in a little bubble about his head!
"Well she already has two children, it's not as big a deal"

Anyway thanks for your help :)
Good luck to everyone else testing fx fx fx

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July 14th, 2016, 09:31 AM
baby2016baby

Maggie although I cant say if its a good thing or not I'm 4/5 dpo and I have terrible lower back ache and stiffness. Its coming in waves and eases then gets worse. I'm hoping it might be a good sign as we done all we could this month xxx

burakoam its so glamerous this ttc lark haha

good luck to anyone testing soon, I might be going crazy but I am sure there was a few due to test around weekend xxxx
July 14th, 2016, 10:04 AM
maggie84

WOW! Let's hope so! I am not charting my temps, but temp rising sounds very promising!

My back ache is much better today and I think the cramps are gone (they were very mild). I only had implantation bleeding 10dpo with baby#1 but I am hoping this could be a sign of implantation around 7-8dpo, which is not uncommon.

FX! Can't wait to start seeing some BFP showing up in this group! :)

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Originally Posted by Linnea

Maggie84 i experience the exact same thing, which I also did with my first child before bfp. Definitely think it's a good sign! I am 9 dpo and have had two temp rises since ovulation.. :pray::fingers::DD:
July 14th, 2016, 10:06 AM
maggie84

Linnea when are you going to test? You are one day ahead of me... I was thinking about 13-14 dpo but I am not sure I will be able to wait that long :)
July 14th, 2016, 02:15 PM
jenc8060

CD 28, 13 DPO for me and a BFN this morning. AF should be arriving tomorrow night so moving onto cycle 3. Super bummed that the second round of Clomid didn't work :tissue: I am taking Clomid (50 mg) for sway tactics only.

My DH is starting to get so annoyed (actually, more like pissed) with this entire process and wants to have LOTS of attempts in the fertile period like we did when conceiving DS (who was conceived during first month when I was in a VERY boy-friendly lifestyle).

Atomic suggested moving to BD every 4 days OR BD every 4 days with an additional attempt at positive OPK. Not sure which route I am going to go. I feel like the Clomid combined with the LE diet, daily exercise and 15 pound weight loss is making me too infertile, so while 2 attempts in the fertile window freak me out, I am starting to wonder if I really do need that in order to conceive at all while taking Clomid. Thoughts anyone?
July 14th, 2016, 02:37 PM
Burakoam

JenC, my youngest daughter was a clomid baby and the week leading up to a positive OPK i wouldnt let hubby touch me but then we DTD friday night when it went positive, saturday morning and night, and sunday morning and night...she is all girl. Can confirm now with all the knowledge i have that i lived a very girl friendly lifestyle so if you have been doing well with your diet and excersise i say you will be safe to add more attempts.
July 14th, 2016, 02:49 PM
Linnea

Maggie84 I am sooo impatient so I think I am going to take a test tomorrow but know that it's probably too early, but I can't wait!! If I only used my head I would wait until Sunday or Monday, lol.. I'll keep you posted, please do the same, cross my fingers that it was signs of implantation :fingers:
July 14th, 2016, 03:48 PM
maggie84

Fingers crossed! My cramps are back! Seriously I never felt something like this before. This is my first cycle on Femara, but my 4th on progesterone (Duphaston) because I had 3 cycles prior to this one for endometrium thickening on progesterone. So I know the symptoms already, and this is not because I am taking Duphaston. Normally I just get bloated and gain a pound or two....

I have like a ton of test strips, I am just fighting the urge to use them!

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Originally Posted by Linnea

Maggie84 I am sooo impatient so I think I am going to take a test tomorrow but know that it's probably too early, but I can't wait!! If I only used my head I would wait until Sunday or Monday, lol.. I'll keep you posted, please do the same, cross my fingers that it was signs of implantation :fingers:
July 14th, 2016, 03:50 PM
maggie84

AF is not late yet, so maybe you tested too early? Don't give up just yet!

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Originally Posted by jenc8060

CD 28, 13 DPO for me and a BFN this morning. AF should be arriving tomorrow night so moving onto cycle 3. Super bummed that the second round of Clomid didn't work :tissue: I am taking Clomid (50 mg) for sway tactics only.

My DH is starting to get so annoyed (actually, more like pissed) with this entire process and wants to have LOTS of attempts in the fertile period like we did when conceiving DS (who was conceived during first month when I was in a VERY boy-friendly lifestyle).

Atomic suggested moving to BD every 4 days OR BD every 4 days with an additional attempt at positive OPK. Not sure which route I am going to go. I feel like the Clomid combined with the LE diet, daily exercise and 15 pound weight loss is making me too infertile, so while 2 attempts in the fertile window freak me out, I am starting to wonder if I really do need that in order to conceive at all while taking Clomid. Thoughts anyone?
July 14th, 2016, 04:45 PM
jenc8060

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Originally Posted by Burakoam

JenC, my youngest daughter was a clomid baby and the week leading up to a positive OPK i wouldnt let hubby touch me but then we DTD friday night when it went positive, saturday morning and night, and sunday morning and night...she is all girl. Can confirm now with all the knowledge i have that i lived a very girl friendly lifestyle so if you have been doing well with your diet and excersise i say you will be safe to add more attempts.

Thank you for the feedback Burakoam! I think I am definitely leaning towards having two attempts for our third cycle!
July 14th, 2016, 04:47 PM
Lissastick

10 dpo and tests are all stark negative. Here's to next month!

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July 14th, 2016, 04:49 PM
Linnea

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Originally Posted by maggie84

Fingers crossed! My cramps are back! Seriously I never felt something like this before. This is my first cycle on Femara, but my 4th on progesterone (Duphaston) because I had 3 cycles prior to this one for endometrium thickening on progesterone. So I know the symptoms already, and this is not because I am taking Duphaston. Normally I just get bloated and gain a pound or two....

I have like a ton of test strips, I am just fighting the urge to use them!

Wow that sounds so promising for you as well, wait until Saturday and then take a test, how could it hurt? Of course as long as you know that your chance is still there even with a negative test, and then keep testing.. That's how I've done with my first two :)
July 14th, 2016, 04:55 PM
Girlieplease

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Originally Posted by Lissastick

10 dpo and tests are all stark negative. Here's to next month!

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Think I will be joining you, 9 dpo tomorrow. I only had an 8 or 9 day lp last month, fear the same this month. So frustrating, given my timing of attempt was spot on. I have never got a bfp before 14 dpo, which would be next Wednesday but think af, will arrive before then! Got some things I want to tighten up for next month diet wise, but if I am not successful next month, not sure how I will feel about month 4! Good luck everyone! X
July 14th, 2016, 04:58 PM
Lissastick

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Originally Posted by Girlieplease

Think I will be joining you, 9 dpo tomorrow. I only had an 8 or 9 day lp last month, fear the same this month. So frustrating, given my timing of attempt was spot on. I have never got a bfp before 14 dpo, which would be next Wednesday but think af, will arrive before then! Got some things I want to tighten up for next month diet wise, but if I am not successful next month, not sure how I will feel about month 4! Good luck everyone! X

This is exactly how I feel! I am going to ramp up my efforts and tweak some things for next month but, I have to stop by September and pick things up next year...due to not wanting to be in third trimester in the summer. Bahahah!

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July 14th, 2016, 05:03 PM
Girlieplease

Age is against me, I really have to proceed until I can let it go. I really wish I could just put it to bed and be happy with my lot! X
July 15th, 2016, 04:31 AM
maggie84

OMG OMG OMG! Got my progesterone results back and I'm trying not to read too much into them, but totally failing! :running:

So I got 38 as a result, and on my lab sheet there is the following info:
Pre-ov phase: 0.057 - 0.89 ng/ml
Ov phase: 0.11 - 11.96 ng/ml
Luteal phase: 1.83 - 23.38 ng/ml

I know that for medicated cycles doctors like progesterone >15 and this means Femara worked for inducing ovulation, for sure.
So, if I am over 23.38 what does this mean? If progesterone levels >25 it is supposed to be a normal level for 1st trimester (viable intrauterine pregnancy). I am so happy at least to know that after a year without even O, my first cycle on Femara is working as it should, and that I still have chances of getting my BFP this month :)

I have lots of test strips so my guess is that I will be trying them every morning until either BFP or AF shows up! FX!

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Originally Posted by Linnea

Wow that sounds so promising for you as well, wait until Saturday and then take a test, how could it hurt? Of course as long as you know that your chance is still there even with a negative test, and then keep testing.. That's how I've done with my first two :)
July 15th, 2016, 05:32 AM
Linnea

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Originally Posted by maggie84

OMG OMG OMG! Got my progesterone results back and I'm trying not to read too much into them, but totally failing! :running:

So I got 38 as a result, and on my lab sheet there is the following info:
Pre-ov phase: 0.057 - 0.89 ng/ml
Ov phase: 0.11 - 11.96 ng/ml
Luteal phase: 1.83 - 23.38 ng/ml

I know that for medicated cycles doctors like progesterone >15 and this means Femara worked for inducing ovulation, for sure.
So, if I am over 23.38 what does this mean? If progesterone levels >25 it is supposed to be a normal level for 1st trimester (viable intrauterine pregnancy). I am so happy at least to know that after a year without even O, my first cycle on Femara is working as it should, and that I still have chances of getting my BFP this month :)

I have lots of test strips so my guess is that I will be trying them every morning until either BFP or AF shows up! FX!

Congratulations!!! So exciting, did you do a test today or are you gonna wait a few more days? The odds keeps getting better for you, but either way your body works and that is fantastic!

I actually did a positive test today, super, super weak but still, I'm PREGNANT!! Now the long wait begins to see who is in there (if everything goes right and the tiny bean stays where it's supposed to), really excited but also freaked out!
July 15th, 2016, 06:16 AM
maggie84

THAT IS AMAZING!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! Are you swaying boy or girl? FX for a sticky bean :)

I did test yesterday evening (8dpo) and obviously it came back negative, lol! I did not test this morning but I will start tomorrow morning (10dpo). I know it is still early, but who knows!

So happy for you! I had the same symptoms, so hoping July is my month as well!

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Originally Posted by Linnea

Congratulations!!! So exciting, did you do a test today or are you gonna wait a few more days? The odds keeps getting better for you, but either way your body works and that is fantastic!

I actually did a positive test today, super, super weak but still, I'm PREGNANT!! Now the long wait begins to see who is in there (if everything goes right and the tiny bean stays where it's supposed to), really excited but also freaked out!
July 15th, 2016, 06:48 AM
purple

Congrats Linnea!! We might be able to start a due date thread soon.. I'm waiting to see how my scan goes next week first.

Maggie, that is great your prog is high as if you get a bfp it will be good for a healthy pregnancy. Unfortunately you can't read much else into 7dpo progesterone levels. Hopefully you do see a BFP though!
July 15th, 2016, 08:12 AM
Linnea

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Originally Posted by maggie84

THAT IS AMAZING!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! Are you swaying boy or girl? FX for a sticky bean :)

I did test yesterday evening (8dpo) and obviously it came back negative, lol! I did not test this morning but I will start tomorrow morning (10dpo). I know it is still early, but who knows!

So happy for you! I had the same symptoms, so hoping July is my month as well!

Thank you!! :) I am longing for and swayed for a baby girl!

Keep testing and I'll cross my fingers that you'll get your bfp as well!! :fingers:
July 15th, 2016, 08:18 AM
Linnea

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Originally Posted by purple

Congrats Linnea!! We might be able to start a due date thread soon.. I'm waiting to see how my scan goes next week first.

Maggie, that is great your prog is high as if you get a bfp it will be good for a healthy pregnancy. Unfortunately you can't read much else into 7dpo progesterone levels. Hopefully you do see a BFP though!

Thank you!! Let's hope we'll end up in a due date thread! How do you feel now? Everything seems to be ok with your pregnancy now, am I right? I haven't read so many posts these days since I'm just sneeking in here real quick during work time..
July 15th, 2016, 08:22 AM
tfahn

Maggie, Progesterone level is great but you can't read anything into them at this point as they peak at 7 DPO in a cycle and if you are not pregnant the levels drop quickly after. Take me for example, last month I was on Femera as well and my 6dpo progesterone level was 29.44. (keep in mind I take progesterone supplements starting at 3dpo) When I had my labs redone again at 13 DPO my progesterone levels dropped to 8.07 even being on the supplements. So really 7 DPO bloodwork is only good at telling you if you ovulated. Fingers crossed you get a BFP this cycle though.

I am 6-7 DPO today so will test on Monday or Tuesday morning I think, progesterone level was 22.54 yesterday at 5-6 DPO. Fingers crossed this is the cycle, if it is my due date would be April 1.
July 15th, 2016, 10:55 AM
maggie84

Me too! So fingers crossed for both of us!

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Originally Posted by Linnea

Thank you!! :) I am longing for and swayed for a baby girl!

Keep testing and I'll cross my fingers that you'll get your bfp as well!! :fingers:
July 15th, 2016, 10:59 AM
maggie84

Thank you tfahn! I got a bit carried away, I am so happy for the fact that Femara+progesterone worked so well right from the first cycle after 1 year of annovulatory cycles! I was afraid progesterone would be low and this cycle would be ruined, but not yet! Still waiting for BFP or AF, one way or another I am so happy my body is finally working! :)

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Originally Posted by tfahn

Maggie, Progesterone level is great but you can't read anything into them at this point as they peak at 7 DPO in a cycle and if you are not pregnant the levels drop quickly after. Take me for example, last month I was on Femera as well and my 6dpo progesterone level was 29.44. (keep in mind I take progesterone supplements starting at 3dpo) When I had my labs redone again at 13 DPO my progesterone levels dropped to 8.07 even being on the supplements. So really 7 DPO bloodwork is only good at telling you if you ovulated. Fingers crossed you get a BFP this cycle though.

I am 6-7 DPO today so will test on Monday or Tuesday morning I think, progesterone level was 22.54 yesterday at 5-6 DPO. Fingers crossed this is the cycle, if it is my due date would be April 1.
July 15th, 2016, 11:00 AM
maggie84

Thanks purple! You are also still on the waiting game for your ultrasound next week, right? Let's keep FX and hope everything turns out ok!

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Originally Posted by purple

Congrats Linnea!! We might be able to start a due date thread soon.. I'm waiting to see how my scan goes next week first.

Maggie, that is great your prog is high as if you get a bfp it will be good for a healthy pregnancy. Unfortunately you can't read much else into 7dpo progesterone levels. Hopefully you do see a BFP though!
July 15th, 2016, 01:10 PM
XXforhubby

Huge congrats Linnea!! FX for you too Maggie!!

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July 15th, 2016, 02:05 PM
Girlieplease

Exciting Maggie84 and linnea, congrats!
Am only 8 dpo according to ff and am super crampy and bloated and just know af is on the way. Just hoping it stays away until Sunday as at least then I will have lp of 10 days and a chance I can get pregnant at some point. Anyone had three babies no problem and now struggling to conceive and have a short lp? Is it possible ever to conceive with less than ten days lp? Feeling really deflated and cannot believe am on to cycle 3, that is half way to 6 months trying! Anyone else feeling similar?
July 15th, 2016, 03:22 PM
Lissastick

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Originally Posted by Girlieplease

Exciting Maggie84 and linnea, congrats!
Am only 8 dpo according to ff and am super crampy and bloated and just know af is on the way. Just hoping it stays away until Sunday as at least then I will have lp of 10 days and a chance I can get pregnant at some point. Anyone had three babies no problem and now struggling to conceive and have a short lp? Is it possible ever to conceive with less than ten days lp? Feeling really deflated and cannot believe am on to cycle 3, that is half way to 6 months trying! Anyone else feeling similar?

This was cycle 3 for us and I am almost certain it was a bust. I think I am 11 dpo and still testing negative. It just sucks because I did get pregnant on the second cycle, but I lost the pregnancy :-(

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July 15th, 2016, 06:17 PM
purple

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Originally Posted by Linnea

Thank you!! Let's hope we'll end up in a due date thread! How do you feel now? Everything seems to be ok with your pregnancy now, am I right? I haven't read so many posts these days since I'm just sneeking in here real quick during work time..

My hcg has been rising at a normal rate but I'm still nervous about it not being right when I have the scan. I also had a heavy bleed Thursday morning but nothing since. I'm just hoping it is one tought little bean and will be happily growing in my uterus when we look next week.

I'm not getting much pregnancy symptoms yet, just a little bloated, slight nausa and feeling more tired.
July 15th, 2016, 06:20 PM
purple

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Originally Posted by maggie84

Thank you tfahn! I got a bit carried away, I am so happy for the fact that Femara+progesterone worked so well right from the first cycle after 1 year of annovulatory cycles! I was afraid progesterone would be low and this cycle would be ruined, but not yet! Still waiting for BFP or AF, one way or another I am so happy my body is finally working! :)

Hey, that is exciting after not ovulating for so long! I remember being so excited when I ovulated on ds1s cycle because I had gone over 6 months with a period or ovulating. I had to take clomid to conceive him.
July 15th, 2016, 06:48 PM
Inforthree

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Originally Posted by Lissastick

This was cycle 3 for us and I am almost certain it was a bust. I think I am 11 dpo and still testing negative. It just sucks because I did get pregnant on the second cycle, but I lost the pregnancy :-(

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Sorry Lissastick, hope it's not AF for you. I had a CP last month too and this is my third attempt too. Hope we have better luck soon.

Question:. How soon. After +opk does your temp rise? I had positive on Wednesday and my temp was still low today. I temped today for the first time in a few days.

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July 15th, 2016, 07:40 PM
purple

Inforthree, I normally ovulate the day after an opk+ but have had false surges so keep up bding e4d just in case it was a false surge. Can you post the link to your chart?

I just read you haven't temped every day... if that is the case you can't know from a one off temp. Still keep up the e4d. Some women ovulate 2 days after opk+ too.

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