There’s a lot of options here for seating girl. Which one has the best odds for swaying... which one do you recommend?
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There’s a lot of options here for seating girl. Which one has the best odds for swaying... which one do you recommend?
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I O during CD13 or 14 n my AF is normally 5 days long so assuming this month my AF (its consistent) comes on 17 Mar and Im done by 22 Mar. I DTD 24, 26, 28, 30 (Expected O date, DTD at night of 30), 31 (DTD morning and night). I know more sperms more chances but at the same time will it attract the girl to the egg first?
Iam a mum of 2 daughters and I should have DTD a few days before O and just one attempt which explains the reason for getting gals but my hubby is active so I wonder y.. Hmmmm..
We can't test all these things. That is not the purpose of me writing that - we do not have the capability to run scientific studies on these things. I write that stuff to lay it out there for you guys to do what feels right to you. These are possible ways to do your sway, follow your gut instinct because we can't test all of them (and the things we have tested, like abstain and FR have not worked anyway)Quote:
Originally Posted by JoJo1984
The thing I believe works is the one attempt. Do whatever frequency pattern you want to do, but the one attempt works.
No, more BD rounds in the fertile window do NOT attract the girl sperm to the egg. That's not a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BabyRendu
The thing you DO need to avoid for blue is having sex many days in a row before the fertile window opens. So do NOT have sex day after day after day starting when AF ends and going through ovulation. Because by the time the egg shows up, your husband will be making smaller batches and less sperm may sway pink. So be sure you have him doing regular release (every 2-4 days) during the early days of the cycle and then have 3-5 attempts in the fertile window. That is ok because once the fertile window is open, the sperm can stay alive and so even if the batches get a bit smaller over time, you will be adding more and more sperm to the mix.
Example:
BD daily starting after AF ends - you could end up with very small batches by the time the fertile window opens so we'll say for sake of illustration that this ends up being only like 5 million sperm.
O-3, O-2, O-1, O Day x 5 million sperm per batch ends up being 20 million sperm
BUT by waiting till the fertile window opens (while having hubby do regular release every 2-4 days to maximize sperm numbers)
O-2 100 million sperm
O-1 - 50 million sperm
O Day - 20 million sperm
Even though it does get less, by the batch, all those sperm have a chance of surviving and you're adding more and more sperm so you could end up with like 170 million sperm on hand (many will die, of course)
It's a matter of putting those attempts at a point in your cycle where they can stay alive to meet the egg! More sperm = more boys conceived. :)
Thks for the valuable information. I saw many other forums or sucessfuly boy sway stating about abstraining to get boys but here as per your advise you have asked to DTD 2-4days after AF. I do understand about the part where once I get the positive OPK I do that night, the following morning and that night. So where will the abstraining part come in when we are DTD O-2, O-1 and on O?Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
If you really are too scared to BD outside of the fertile window you can also have your husband release every 2-4 days instead. Whichever you feel more comfortable with, although virtually all of us with lots of boys do exactly that - have regular unprotected intercourse during our non-fertile times of the month, and then when we're trying to prevent pregnancy, use contraception around O, and when trying to conceive, we have lots of sex around O.
"abstaining" is a PINK sway tactic, not blue. You do not want to abstain any longer than 4 days maximum. There is NO magic to a 4 day abstain for blue - just having hubby release every 2-4 days accomplishes what the 4 day abstain is supposed to.
If you want to include a 4 day abstain prior to your attempts for blue, that's ok of course, (just not necessary) Hubby should not release starting 4 days before you expect your positive OPK (this will be 1-2 days before you expect to ovulate). Personally I think you would be better off having him aim at only a 2-3 day abstain before you expect the positive OPK, that way if it's late, you will still fit in the 2-4 day window.
O-8 DTD ProtectedQuote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
O-6 DTD Protected
Fertile Window
O-4 DTD 1st attempt
O-2 DTD 2nd attempt
O-1 DTD 3rd attempt
Est O(AM) DTD 4th attempt
Est O(PM) DTD 5th attempt
Something like this is correct?
That's how I like to see you guys do it! Very much the way that I and most of the boy moms on here got our little guys. :) :bluecheer: :bluecheer: :bluecheer:
Atomic we DTD unprotected for CD6 and CD8.. Is it ok.. Im nervous.
Today is my CD4...
Yes! That is how many of us boy moms, myself included, got our boys. We had regular unprotected sex outside of our fertile window, and then when we were NOT trying to get pregnant, used protection only during our fertile window. Then when we were trying to conceive, we stopped using protection and had unprotected sex during our fertile window too!
Shettles DOES NOT WORK. It's been debunked as much as it is possible for anything in science to be debunked. Dozens of studies have shown it doesn't work. I know it's hard to let it go but studies have shown regular unprotected sex boosts your fertility and everything that boosts fertility, seems to sway blue!
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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Thks I feel so gd knowing this. Debunked n I know it well based on how I conceive my gals.. Yes need to let it go.. let it go.. :)
N sorry it was supposed to be unprotected done CD8 & CD6 and O-4.
Tomorrow will be O-2 so we will DTD O-2, O-1 and on O..
Using preseed (a coin size) this whole week too.. Fingers toes crossed....
You are doing exactly perfectly! Keep up the good work and sending you tons and tons of blue dust!
Atomic small problem. I didnt get my expected LH surge on 30 Mar so wat should I do now? It was consistent these few months but now I dont have the surge yet. Could it be because DH is releasing into me (Sorry TMI) this month? Im still BD-ing every 2days. Yesterday we still DTD. Is there a chance that I may not be able to detect an LH surge? Im afraid I might miss the 5 attempts.
No, DH releasing in you cannot affect your LH surge. Sometimes when you're tense about TTC it can delay ovulation. What supplements are you taking? Some supplements can also delay or even stop your ovulation.
I would keep having regular sex and testing for LH surge.
Are you having a lot of EWCM?? Or any other symptoms that are telling us that ovulation may be coming?? If you think you are ovulating, have a couple extra attempts even if you don't get a surge (you can get false negative LH strips.)
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Yes I had CM hanging (TMI) when I use the toilet which I normally dun have. Could be due to diet and lots of coconut water and guanefesin. I had cramps yest which I believe may not be reliable. I just went with my instincts and had attempt yest and today morning and intend to have it tonight too. Yest night when I check my opk no signs but the day before 1st Apri (CD14) I had the below mentioned results.. Previous months both lines were way way darker. So I believe this is not a surge or is it?
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I suspect it's coming, take a day off now, keep testing with OPK, and then hit it again with a couple attempts not today but tomorrow.
This doesn't look positive to me but sometimes you can be surging and then the OPK are false negatives. your symptoms make it sound like O will be coming along soon, but you can have those symptoms for days before surge occurs so I don't want to completely exhaust DH in case the real surge is coming.
Yes agreed. Now all the OPK are just one line unlike the others I saw.. Maybe like you said maybe Im getting false negatives but surging.. Shall keep testing though..Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Just keep BD every other day for now and see what happens! FX and blue dust headed your way
Yes sure cos the lines are no longer visible.. :(
Thanks so much for your advise all along...
The OPK are not the end all, be all! It may be that you have not Oed yet and having attempts doesn't hurt anything. :)
So sad today I got my AF. This is the first time I didnt manage to be pregnant. With both my gals I got preggy with one attempt.. Looks like I gotto try again. Maybe cos im 34 this year and not able to conceive anymore. :worry:
It is actually pretty rare to get pregnant the first time trying. It takes an average of 3-6 months to conceive. So if you've gotten pregnant faster than that in the past, it's simply good luck and not a guarantee that it will always be that way, and it does not mean anything is wrong with you at all.
34 is still YOUNG.
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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Still having hope.. Will try this month again and the following.. I dunno if I can be on this HE diet as Im putting on weight too... So sad and lost.. Thks for your advise Atomic. Sometimes when things dont happen the way we want we think something is wrong..
Can you tell me more about what you're eating?? Often there are a few changes we can make that will slow or stop the weight loss. Start off by dropping fruit juice and cutting WAY back on sugar, grains, fruit (especially bananas) and potatoes. YOu do NOT need to be stuffed and miserable to make a boy.
Hi! I’m new here and looking for advice. I have a DS whom I love dearly but TTC a girl for our next child. Obviously, I just want a healthy baby and pregnancy. However, wanting to try for a girl. DH and I BD 4/15 & 4/16. I got peak fertility on my Clear Blue OPK this morning (4/18). Should we BD tonight or is it too close to O day??
Morning: 2 big spoons of Oats and 1 small piece of dark chocolateQuote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
After an hour: I bread with peanut butter/ 2 bread with ham and cheese
Drinks: Coconut water (Fresh)
Snack: Dates with Almond nuts/ Oat cookies
Lunch: Always mixtures cos in Singapore different types of food so I try to include chicken vege or salmod with fries
Snack: Banana/ Raisins/ Grapes
Dinner: Same include food with protein and Carb
Snack before bed: Full cream milk with cereal
Throughout the day lemon juice
I feel stuffed all the time.. Let me know if anything is wrong. I dropped green tea cos Im not sure if that messed up my last month cycle..
I did answer this in another thread but reading this I now have a greater understanding of your question.Quote:
Originally Posted by MamaT
When you're asking "when to stop BD" you are worried it is too close to ovulation. Got it.
But. Timing does not sway, it's been completely debunked, and most of us on here have 2-3-4 or more timing opposites. I got 3 boys with cutoffs (other boy was a sneak attack) and then got my girl late at night the day before O Day (it WAS technically O Day!).
Since you generally ovulate an average 36 hours after your peak by having had attempt last night, you would have still been a solid day or even longer. Many people will O 48 hours or even up to 72 hours after that first peak. So it's very possible that you will be still in Shettles timing anyway.
I have a full debunking against timing and swaying here. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...le-timing.html
You are eating quite a bit of calorically dense foods. Some things that could be changed (and you don't need to change ALL of them, and it's fine to keep doing them sometimes and just not every day):Quote:
Originally Posted by BabyRendu
You could cut everything you eat in 1/2 and have smaller servings
You could drop one or even two of the snacks (keep the bedtime snack!)
Switch things like bananas, raisins, bread or drop them completely, as they are very carby and not that nutritious anyway
Here is what a sample day would look like.
In the morning, have EITHER some oats with peanut butter or milk (PB and milk are adding protein) OR fruit and peanut butter (you could put your banana here if you want, or an apple or pear) OR a half a ham and cheese sandwich (and you can leave the cheese off, and save some calories
Stick with just the nuts for a snack. The dates and cookies are much more sugary and less nutritious. Nuts have protein and carbs in them so you only need them, no need for anything else.
Lunch sounds fine as does dinner, but you may want to have slightly smaller portions, cut back by 1/3 or 1/2 if you're really eating large meals.
I don't see any point in having a snack that is just fruit. It's not protein and carbs and it is only adding calories. Unless you're hungry here, this is a good snack to give up. Raisins, grapes, and bananas are really quite sugary and unlike some other fruits don't add much in the way of nutrition anyway.
Keep that bedtime snack.
If the weight keeps coming on, drop the chocolate.
Ohhhh I always thought the closer you are to O day, the more likely you are to have blue. That’s why I thought I should stop BDing by a certain day. When I got pregnant with DS, we BDed on my first peak day. So that’s why I thought the closer you are to O day, the more likely to have blue.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
I was trying to get in the 7-9servings of fruits and veg that why I put in the fruits during snacks.. Shall change it slightly as per your suggestion. Thank you so much. In the event I still dun get preggy this month, I will be purchasing the guide for a personalised advise.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Yes I understand now. That's what a lot of people say, but Dr. Shettles has been completely debunked, we even know what his mistake was and I have a full explanation about that in the timing link I posted above. 50-50 boys and girls are conceived every day of the cycle according to the studies who accurately calculated day of ovulation using blood tests or ultrasound instead of just telling women to have sex on a certain day or relying on unverified guesses about when O occurred.Quote:
Originally Posted by MamaT
Yes I figured as much but once the weight starts to come on, we have to make adjustments to that. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BabyRendu
Atomic. I got my LH surge today.. I tested at 1pm and 11pm and it shows as peaked.. after my AF we have been DTD every 2days. We DTD on Fri and today morning.. now tat I got my positive when should I DTD? Tonight is out as hubby is sleeping.. aiming for tomorrow morning and at night.. correct?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0666a435a0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...906a2ed2d1.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by BabyRendu
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Yes tomorrow morning and again tomorrow night if you possibly can!
I got my BFP [emoji12].. hope my sway works. Thks for all the help AS. I will soon put up my sway.. so nervous too...Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
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huge congrats Rendu!! :bluecheer:
Congrats!!
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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
What if you abstain for a month, then DTD the day you got +OPK and then DTD again a day before O? Would it sway pink or blue? From what I understand it would sway pink because of abstinence but then again since there is fresh sperm because you DTD again before O it would sway blue? So confusing :(
What if you abstain for a month, then DTD the day you got +OPK and then DTD again a day before O? Would it sway pink or blue? From what I understand it would sway pink because of abstinence but then again since there is fresh sperm because you DTD again before O it would sway blue? So confusing
What if you abstain for a month, then DTD the day you got +OPK and then DTD again a day before O? Would it sway pink or blue? From what I understand it would sway pink because of abstinence but then again since there is fresh sperm because you DTD again before O it would sway blue? So confusingQuote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush