Mommy, I'm so excited! So grateful that it spiked this am! That means I got both the O-2 and O-1 I was really hoping for!! I feel really good about this cycle!
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Mommy, I'm so excited! So grateful that it spiked this am! That means I got both the O-2 and O-1 I was really hoping for!! I feel really good about this cycle!
Ttc-I'm sooooo happy to see that beautiful spike so I know you are too! [emoji322][emoji322] You had me seriously lol with your dd's comment ;)
Max-do you still have some OSOMs? I like pbn's idea of waiting until 12dpo since there is a question of O date...or if you test early, just keep that in mind. I say do whatever you feel like at the moment...but when have we been known to stop someone from POAS?? [emoji12] It's so great that the dr has followed you every step of the way this cycle...you know you o'd, you know your lining is good...this is SO your month!! xoxo
LMSM-this is SO your month too!! Yay for having all of those straight frer's ready!
Halley-very curious situation indeed! You aren't annoying anyone, please rant away anytime!!! I believe you've O'd too. Not the first time ff has been wrong, but your temps/chart are saying you O'd despite what your opk's are saying. LMSM suggested a very possible reason with a fast surge. Fx O has happened with all that hard BD work!
Momto3girls-started to read how you were a surrogate 3 times and all I could think about is how amazing you are!! Fertile myrtle indeed as well as helping others achieve their dream...just wow!
Lola, I know! She never gets in trouble for wetting the bed because I honestly don't believe kids can help it, but it sure did confuse her when I grabbed her up and danced with her lol!!
Ttc!! I feel good about this cycle for you too!! Can't wait to see those blazing positive lines!!
Haha Lola!! You crack me up!!
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Ttc-I can just picture that!! I can just imagine the thought process going through her young mind "I just peed in the bed & mommy is dancing with me????" Lol 🤣
Mommy-you crack me up too! "Slept through 4 pages" 🤣 So you have your cb digis ready, where are you in the cycle now?
Lola! Yep! Don't start testing with opks until the 17th, take my last dose of clomid tomorrow :)
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Thanks mommy! I hope!
Lola: When she said that all I told her was, "The sheets will wash, today will still be a good day" and she just giggled. I'm so blessed to have 2 sweet little girls! :)
Aww ttc! That is awesome how you reacted with her! I agree they can't help wetting the bed.
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Bah! So my 2 year old messed up my temping a little today!! He woke us up at 5:30 this morning which is at least 2 hours earlier than I normally temp. I didn't get out of bed (my DH took care of the 2 year old - bless him!) and I took my temp at that time which was 97.02. I laid awake for awhile before falling back to sleep and when I woke up a couple of hours later and took temp it was 97.46. My pre-O temps are typically between 97.2-97.4. So - The 97.46 was probably a little elevated from waking up at 5:30 but between that & the 97.02 at 5:30 am... I'd say I didn't ovulate yesterday!
So I don't know what's going on as far as that positive OPK followed by several negative ones!!! Sounds like I'm in good company on this board with confusion over my OPKs :) Anyways I'll keep watching and if I don't get a temp spike in the next day or two I guess we'll give it another go as far as BD-ing? I really want only one fertile period attempt so I guess if I don't ovulate in the next day or two our next attempt should be maybe Friday? (we BD-ed yesterday, Tuesday).
Bah! So my 2 year old messed up my temping a little today!! He woke us up at 5:30 this morning which is at least 2 hours earlier than I normally temp. I didn't get out of bed (my DH took care of the 2 year old - bless him!) and I took my temp at that time which was 97.02. I laid awake for awhile before falling back to sleep and when I woke up a couple of hours later and took temp it was 97.46. My pre-O temps are typically between 97.2-97.4. So - The 97.46 was probably a little elevated from waking up at 5:30 but between that & the 97.02 at 5:30 am... I'd say I didn't ovulate yesterday!
So I don't know what's going on as far as that positive OPK followed by several negative ones!!! Sounds like I'm in good company on this board with confusion over my OPKs :) Anyways I'll keep watching and if I don't get a temp spike in the next day or two I guess we'll give it another go as far as BD-ing? I really want only one fertile period attempt so I guess if I don't ovulate in the next day or two our next attempt should be maybe Friday? (we BD-ed yesterday, Tuesday).
Are you doing every 4 days? You can make it Monday or Tuesday. I was doing the e4d as you were and found I should've been counting Friday Saturday Sunday bd Monday. It's up to you which day you prefer since you are just starting out.
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I don't know what I'm doing really :) We had planned to do 1 attempt at +OPK... I thought I maybe had a positive OPK on Monday but they've def been negative since then. So we did BD yesterday (Tues), but according to my temps I still haven't ovulated. So I'm still going to do the OPKs but if I don't get a temp rise tomorrow or Friday morning I'm thinking we should attempt on Friday? So it would be Tues(BD)-Wed-Thurs-Fri(BD). Does that sound right? I'm pretty sure I will ovulate by Friday b/c that would be CD 14 & my cycles are usually 24 or 25 days (I have a short LP.. 10-12 days normally).
That sounds perfect! That's my plan too the e4d and one attempt at positive opk.
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Ok thanks!!!
Wait I'm confused.. I thought e4d meant 3 non-BDing days in the middle.. (XoooXoooX) and e3d had 2 in the middle (XooXooX)..
Welcome! Fx for you so tight!!
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I thought so too at first ttc. Guess depends on the person which it is. It's confusing.
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Someone that knows better will chime in, but would stick with your plan first abc for sure!
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Yeah that's strange! So for ttc a girl they suggest you do 4 days off, bd, 4 days off, bd? Is that what they mean by e4d? Not that it makes a difference to me because I'm swaying for a boy, but that could cause a lot of confusion!
Here's an explanation. You can do either or, but do the 3 days in between first and then switch to the other if it doesn't work! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...dd0768aab3.pnghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...10035ca70e.png
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Ttc-that's my understanding too. E3d would mean BD on the 3rd day and E4d, BD on the 4th day. That's what I did, not sure if that was correct? You have sweet girls & your response was perfect too [emoji173]
Mommy-can't wait to watch your OPKs soon!
Me too Lola!! Fx that the dual hormones work this month!!
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Mommy, it must be a difference of how we perceive it because in the pictures you shared, what I got out of the conversation, is that e4d has 3 between XoooX and e3d has 2 between XooX lol! Which is what I originally thought, but I thought you meant something different. We should probably just go with the pictures you shared before we really confuse anyone!
Edit: actually I just read them again and I think they're saying that both 2 and 3 days between bd is considered e4d :confused:
I agree ttc! lol I'm going to edit my other posts so it doesn't confuse anyone else!
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Yea I think I initially thought e4d was 3 non-BD days in the middle but I think Atomic counts it as 2 non-BD days in the middle, but I think she thinks either approach is fine (Mommy2Apples was that screen shot post above from Atomic?). I would actually prefer to do 3 non-BD days just to make sure we're getting only 1 attempt in the fertile period, but I'm tentatively planning on Friday this week b/c Saturday would be CD 15 and I usually don't ovulate that late - so if I wait until Saturday I think I might miss it! What I'm REALLY hoping though is that I just ovulate today or tomorrow and then I won't need to worry about the next attempt this cycle :)
Btw you ladies have mentioned "dual hormone digital OPK tests". Which brands/ OPKs are those? If we don't get pregnant this cycle I think I'm switching to digital next cycle :)
I'd originally seen, it from
Atomic, but that one was from 4blue2pink.
Yes! Definitely do the one you are more comfortable with! Fx so tight!
It's the purple clear blue digital with the two smileys. Blinking smiley for peak, and then no blinking smiley for positive.
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Mommy: I'm sorry, I didn't mean you are confusing people! Just that I can see how the concept is confusing due to the personal differences of how we all count days, that some may never even give a second thought to. I think ABC is right, that atomic counts days different than most but both ways are sufficient :)
Ttc! It sounded confusing to me! Lol you are fine! This whole ttc thing is confusing.
I've told Halley multiple times, if ttc doesn't work this month, I'm throwing all opks, temping, and anything else out the window. Just going to enjoy bding.
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OK, so it took me 2 days to fully get caught up on all of you! CRAZY!!!
TTC - I LOVE how this cycle panned out for you, I was a bit worried for a bit that DH did in deed pull-out at the most inopportune time. But it all worked out and your pattern looks beautiful!
Max and LMSM - I am on pins and needles waiting for you all to test!
Halley - It def looks like ou O'd. Sorry that the OPKs were so confusing for you. Some months are just that way! I have been temping and charting for nearly 12 years, and I still have confusing months. :)
ABC - hoping you get a definite answer to when you Od soon!
Mommy - can't wait to see what this next month and new plan brings!
Iwant - numbers are looking fantastic and I am so happy for your BFP.
It is awesome to see so many blue swayers on here right now!! I will dump ALL of my BLUE BABY DUST on all of you!!! I have LOTS to spare. :D FXd for all of you to get your BFPs soon!
Sorry if I forgot anyone - welcome to all the new posters.
Oh Momto3girls (not really sure of your name, sorry if I am wrong) - WOW! Just wow. I have dreamed of being a surrogate, but I am getting too old. I truly wish I had done it when I was younger! You are awesome and I sure hope you get your desired little boy!
Shann: thank you in so hopeful for this month!! Glad you are caught up and commenting again!!
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Interesting to know ladies-I may have had it confused, but think I still ended up with 1 attempt phew!
ABC-clear blue has 2 digis & the dual hormone is the more expensive one, but it gives you a flashing smiley before your solid smiley and you use FMU. The flashing smiley indicates high fertility & detects the first hormone and the solid smiley indicates that the LH surge has been detected...so the highest chance of fertility. Once you get your solid, you stop testing, but it is great to compare with the IC OPKs. There are instructions for what day you should start using them. The other one just has the solid smiley and detects your 2 most fertile days I believe, but both great. I'd highly recommend giving it a try!
Shann: Thank you! I was freaking out on +opk day! The only bad part about this cycle is that after that incident dh didn't want the preseed to be used anymore. He said it grossed him out and the name makes it even worse haha! So we agreed that if I didn't use the lube he would give me an extra attempt. It just sucks because I really don't make a lot of cm on my own. Though on the morning before O I had a very small amount of stretchy cm so that made me feel a little better.
TTC - glad you have a compromise. I never used anything and have 5 boys. So you may not even need it. :) Atomic always says that there is most likely some fertile cm up where it is needed and it does not always make it's way out. ;)
Ok perfect! I'll plan on getting some of those if things don't work this cycle :) Using FMU seems a lot more convenient too!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lolabelle
Ladies, Atomic is very flexible on E4D or E3D. E4D has 2-3 days in between (3 being pinker) and E3D is 1-2 days in between (2 days being pinker). The reason for the discrepancy sometimes is due to people being antsy about TTCing. Some people have short cycles and would miss their fertile window or not have an attempt with good odds of conception. Likewise, some people have crazy long cycles and BDing more frequently would cause too many attempts in the fertile window. Pick a pattern and stick with it based on your average cycle length, or go with what will make your DH the most happy!
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Shann: That's great! Makes me feel much better! I've always kinda wondered that because initially bd is uncomfortable for me, but once we get started it doesn't feel like it's dry in there at all. I've always speculated that it just doesn't make its way out very easily.
Xx! Thanks! Mines shorter so I'm excited about the e3d!
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Oh my god. I thought I would never be able to catch up with u all chatty ladies. [emoji12][emoji12][emoji12]
So thrilled I could. ❤️❤️
Max- I am patiently waiting for
You to start POAS. I have everything crossed for you. [emoji1317][emoji1317] for a bfp. 🤞🤞
Ttc - I am so happy that you were able
to have three attempts in. Yay [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322]
And saw the beautiful temp rise. Fx for you. And u r such a wonderful mom for handling the bed wetting so beautifully and lovingly. ❤️ How cute would that dance have been. ❤️❤️
LMSM - I know you are waiting to POAS but I am counting days till Saturday. Fx so so so tight.
Mommy2apples- So excited for you to start using the digis. They really take the guess work out. 🤞🤞 for this cycle. Will be cheering you on.
Halley - I have asked so so so many questions here but all I ever got was support and answers. That's why I call this my safe place. Ask away dear. These ladies are the best. This whole ttc thing is super confusing for all of us. I also feel that u O'd too. Ff has been wrong about my cycle a lot including the one where I got my bfp. I had to remove temps for a few days to correct it as advised by Pbn. Fx for you.
Momto3girls - Welcome.How awesome you are to have been a surrogate 3 times. Respect. I agree with others that you are a fertile myrtle indeed and that will help u get your blue bundle. 🤞🤞
I hope I didn't miss anyone. Will be cheering you ladies on.
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Thank you Sky! You are the sweetest!Attachment 37029Attachment 37030 hair with the highlights :)
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