Yes the generation plus is $695 but the basic generation test is $395- does the basic one include gender I wonder?
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Yes the generation plus is $695 but the basic generation test is $395- does the basic one include gender I wonder?
I'll ask my doc tomorrow as I have my first appointment then x
Yes I'm pretty positive the basic does include gender!
Just checked and it definately includes sex of baby in basic [emoji3]
I'm trying so hard. I know you are trying to help, and I really appreciate it! I also just hate so much when people say, "Don't stress -- it's not good for the baby!" There is a lot of evidence saying that stress doesn't cause loss, so I always feel like it's almost a victim blaming statement. Which I KNOW you are not saying, I don't want to come off like that! I just remember with my November loss (where I made it just past 6 weeks), I was a mess because of a lot of different things (I had gone off progesterone after an early beta was low per my RE and she told me to stop it, and kept calling her with no answer when my tests kept getting darker and I didn't know what to do). Both my husband and one of my best friends kept stressing, "You're going to cause yourself to lose it if you keep stressing." But that isn't what causes losses -- and me having my DD to term at all is another big support of that, since I was a hot mess from Day 1 with her!Quote:
Originally Posted by ABC.2606
I am definitely working on the distractions! I think that's part of why I got so worked up -- with DH gone, I'm losing another distraction and it's just me and DD together for 2 weeks! Luckily I start my second job which is nannying next week, so hopefully that will distract me.
I think that's another issue here, too -- I was so stressed before the last scan, I'm not even sure doing a scan (especially without DH here) would help me and maybe I should just wait for the next one in a little less than 2.5 weeks.
I'm going to call the RE today about the prednisone just to get some clarification on a.) why they had me on it and b.) how they want me to taper. I want into a loss group for immune issues and a lot of women said tapering reaaaally slow is their recomendation (so I think at 10 weeks I might go from 10 mg to 7.5 mg a week, then 5 mg a week, then 2.5 mg a week, then 2.5 mg every other day for a week to be fully weaned by 14 weeks or so).
And as for telling people, I definitely don't feel pressured so much as just sad now that I COULD have the wonderful announcement in person with everyone but feel too nervous to do so. We didn't actually reveal to our families that I was pregnant with DD until I was almost 17 weeks (and I didn't even tell work until I was 21 weeks -- I don't think I popped until about 22 or 23 weeks with her and lucked out). THIS time, I'm not sure I will be so lucky -- I think my uterus is already raising up based on RLP and how hard my lower abdomen is becoming, and I'm definitely not in the same shape I was before DD.
Which, long story short, I think might have been my BIG anxiety trigger last night overall: :( I read so many women who said they gained tons of weight the longer they were on prednisone and got "moon face" with it, and freaked out that that's what's happening to me and I felt verrrry out of control because it's not like I can just start working out a ton or dieting. They also wanted to check my blood sugar which stresses me out (a nurse was deadset on saying I had GD with DD, when I failed the 1 hour by a handful of points, even though my midwife said I didn't have it -- and DD ended up being under 7 lb at 40weeks2days!), since prednisone can artificially affect blood sugar readings so I think all the stress over these old triggers is really what exacerbated everything. I can only do so much about the weight and blood sugar when I'm on a steroid, and I know that, but being unable to control it more made me spazz over everything else (gender, the growth, DH going out of town, etc.!)
I also just realized our nuchal is scheduled when baby is hopefully 13w1d, and now I'm desperate to schedule it earlier since I'd rather have the ambiguity and hope than the confirmed girl nub :(
Yikes, that is SO expensive!! I hate how pricey these tests are :( I can't wait until they hopefully become more routine in coming years. That's got to be the equivalent of over $1,000+ USD I'd think.Quote:
Originally Posted by kittendreams
TP - Stress is not going to cause you to lose the baby. That's definitely not what I was trying to say so I'm glad you know that! But we both know that the high level of stress that we both feel right now isn't healthy for us or the pregnancies either. Oh, if you knew how totally over the top I am about germs and bacteria when it comes to pregnancy - I drive my DH insane over it! So I'm just saying if you can adjust your mindset a bit to say "I'm going to TRY to let go of just some of this worry today and relax and take care of myself because I know that's healthier for me and this baby". Because the better you can take care of yourself, the more you're supporting a healthy environment for baby to grow and thrive. Doesn't mean you're going to lose or harm the baby by the stress - you won't! - you just are trying to create the best environment possible for baby to grow strong! It's trying to focus on what you can do and not what's out of your control. And again - I'm trying to tell myself all of these same things as well because I'm not doing a good job of it either, and I know how hard it is to actually achieve that when the fear is so strong!
I know you're trying. You've been through way too much pain and absolutely no one has the right to tell you what you should feel or do because frankly they don't get it! I have a very loving family but I was shocked at some of the reactions and what I felt was a real a lack of support with my losses. After my D&C my dad and stepmom went weeks without so much as a phone call or text to see how I was doing (and when they finally reached out it was on an unrelated topic - not to see how I was doing). I was sent a letter in the mail by an extended family member after my 2nd m/c (she was told about my pregnancies by my stepmom w/o my permission) that said that clearly my body couldn't carry another pregnancy and that I needed to stop because if I didn't, I would die and not see my boys grow up. My mom has made it pretty clear she doesn't even want us to have a 3rd baby and has not shown the slightest amount of excitement or interest in my recent pregnancies. People - whether they have good intentions are not - can be really hurtful in what they say and how they react when it comes to miscarriages. Sadly I think too many of us on here have had to find that out.
I'm glad you're going to talk to the RE - I think getting more medical advice on how to handle the Prednisone will help you with knowing how to move forward.
We're all cheering you on! You can do this!! You're almost 1/4 of the way through! Baby is getting bigger, you're going to start feeling him/her moving in a couple of months, you're going to start getting scans soon that show legs and feet and arms and nose and all that!! All those really exciting things are ahead and I'm really excited for you! And yes, you most likely will be showing much earlier - which is completely normal for 2nd time mamas!!! :) :) I popped way earlier with DS2 and felt bigger and way more uncomfortable by the end! And he was even born 1 lb smaller than DS1!!! I remember my doc telling me with DS2 something like "Well, yea you're more uncomfortable - all those ligaments and muscles were already all stretched out the first time and things aren't as tight anymore!". LOL. Pregnancy is a crazy thing.
I am the most anxious I have ever been in my life these days! If it's not pregnancy related it's the smallest things, like getting things done sooner rather than later e.g fathers day is coming up, dd4s birthday next month and even getting in the girls new school uniforms (they haven't even finished school for summer yet!) I suppose it's mostly finance related but it's like I have a mental ticklist and can't relax till it's done, but as soon as I "tick'one thing off it gets replaced with something else!! Even appointments- I just want to tick them off and know they are done. Then I read anxiety can affect baby's growth which, of course made me anxious :worry:
Hey TP... Just to let you know I Googled insurance and NIPT just now and saw this thread which was interesting...
https://community.babycenter.com/pos...nce-cover-nipt
The last few comments on that thread in particular.
I'm still going to look into it and ask my OB at the first appointment with him (assuming there is a first appointment... man I feel ya on the whole "jinxing" thing! I don't even want to assume things that far ahead!). Anyways, I really think he would recommend it for me given my age and m/c history... so maybe how they bill it affects how insurance would treat it, I don't know... I do know at least 3 people who had it done - all under 35 - and one of those told me her doctor pretty much recommends it for all patients now. I'm wondering if it's maybe getting easier to get insurance to cover it for other reasons than it was before when they'd only do it for 35+? Obviously depends on the insurance company and plan too though.
Yea anxiety is an awful thing right? The older I get the more I seem to be struggling with it. I miss being young and carefree and not worrying about every little thing!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Babybeaublue
How is the pregnancy going though? You're getting so close now!! When is the actual due date?
I'm due 23rd of August. The closer it gets the longer it seems to take. The first 20 weeks went so quickly, but I think I'm just so uncomfortable at the minute the thought of another 11 weeks feels like forever!
ABC, I am still so sorry how those around you treated you. Your parents especially -- I can never fathom how selfish and thoughtless people can be, especially to their own kids :( With this pregnancy, I told my closest few friends, and one literally said, "But yeah, it's temporary, right?" :/
And yeah, you're right about giving baby a good environment (though I worried so much about that with DD since I was literally suicidal when i was pregnant with her -- and she turned out fine, haha!). I think I'm realizing how much of this is protective. It's like I can't LET myself not stress, because if I enjoy any moment and then something bad happens, I'll feel like I jinxed it (as opposed to if something bad happens after feeling stressed, I'll think it was just me knowing what was going to happen? Ugh idk!). I've had a lot of therapy sessions along this line lately, lol.
I did at least find out from our RE that they just put everyone on prednisone for inflammation (mamabird was on it too since we went to the same RE clinic), and said I'd be fine tapering off for a week. I'm still going to go slow, but I feel less dependent on it now knowing they didn't feel it was a thing specific to me!
Of course, now I'm worried all my boy OWTs will have just been from the prednisone, even though I know better than to believe in OWT ( I had plenty of boy ones with DD). I went NUTS earlier obsessing over some vein in the eye OWT I'd never even heard in previous pregnancies?! Ugh, the stress never ends.
When is your scan ABC?! I'm anxious for you to get some reassurance!
And BBB, you're so close!! I hope you feel more comfortable soon!
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Originally Posted by Throwaway_panther
Good news about the prednisone TP.
How far along are you and what are your boy symptoms?
BBB - Yea I can imagine you are getting pretty anxious to get little boy here!!!! So exciting though!!
Kitten - how are you feeling?
TP - Yea it is frustrating how they've acted. Oh well. That's good news about the Prednisone!! Did you/will you ask Mamabird how she weaned off of it? Are you doing progesterone as well? My scan is on Friday :)
I guess I had a hint at more symptoms today... Started feeling the slightest (and I mean, only the slightest) bit nauseated late this afternoon and was so sleepy I could barely keep my eyes open. Took a nap in which I fell into a deep sleep and was super ticked off when my alarm went off an hour later! So that's something right? I'm still feeling pretty concerned about my dropping progesterone numbers. Trying to decide whether to wait until Friday at my ultrasound and ask the doctor or call up my OBGYN (who I know I can actually get to call me back and whose opinion I really trust) to see what he thinks about it and if I should start the vaginal progesterone capsules he's given me in the past. Sigh... can't figure out what to do. Friday seems like a long ways away!
Cassidy I hope you're doing well!!
I think Kiku must be in the middle of her move now. Kiku if you see this I hope you're doing well too!!
Aside from bouts of gender anxiety I'm great abc. A touch nauseous and a little fatigued- oh and the usual reflux I get even before a bfp ( had it with ds1 &ds2 also) but that's it so far- trying to enjoy it before the ms kicks in!
I know it's silly and they don't mean anything, but the lack of MS/nausea except for a passing moment here and there, pretty much no food aversions, hair growth is nuts, cold feet, headaches, hunger, cravings, backaches, etc. -- all very dumb, but I didn't have a lot of this with DD so when I'd look up "HEADACHES? PROGESTERONE DROPPING?" out of anxiety, I'd get surprised that, "Oh, that's a boy OWT? Huh." etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by kittendreams
But I know better. This pregnancy could just be different because it's different. I had practically a sweets aversion with DD and craved meat and salty stuff and literally ate a whole lemon at one point with her lol (and now she loves lemon!). I also always have cold feet. And prednisone can explain the lack of nausea, food aversions, the hair growth and hunger. The hair growth one is dumb, but I do remember noticing barely needing to shave when I was pregnant with DD (which is VERY unusual for me -- I am a pretty hairy person by ethnicity), versus now I pretty much need to shave (and pluck -- eek) every day/every other day.
I read one too where boobs growing way bigger is a girl versus normal growth is a boy, which I'm sure means nothing, but my breasts did get NUTSO big with DD versus now I'm 10 weeks and in the same bras still (which yay, rib cage isn't TOO big yet lol).
I freaked myself out by the stupid "eye hooks/vein" thing yesterday. SO DUMB. I hate that I'm doing this to myself again!
And ABC, I'm not going to bother mamabird right now haha -- I am so happy to hear she has much better news, but I'll let her recover before pestering her with questions! I'm going to go with my original plan of slooooow weaning -- especially since apparently things can be rough coming off :/ (I was on it when I was much younger and had a bad time overall!). Lots of women get bad depression -- and I'm already feeling the gender depression slinking in on top of all my anxiety.
Also, don't stress about the progesterone!! I know it can waver a ton -- I can't remember if you're on supplementation or not? I am on it (though my progesterone was fine at 15DPO), and will probably be fully weaned by 14 weeks or so, too (or longer -- eek, I'm so nervous to go off anything now). I'm so happy to hear you're getting some symptoms (even though they suck!!) -- I hope it's making you feel better a bit for now!!
TP I had a heap of OWT's I did for fun (may have went a little nuts [emoji854] I figured hey this may be my last chance if I lose this pregnancy too do I just went for it!) As did a few in my group! Happy to share what owts we did? I actually created a spreadsheet with owt, our names and results at one stage [emoji23][emoji85][emoji87]
One thing I noticed different this pregnancy (not an owt) that hubby did too is I didn't get a 'noticable' linear nigra this pregnancy yet with the boys it was very noticable. I googled it once but found so many ladies who had different linear nigra's but same sex lol.
Ps I know about the eye vein one [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] and mine indicated boy so that one can be debunked right now!!
Haha, do NOT give me that spreadsheet! I will go nuts obsessing! [emoji23]
But THANK YOU. I need to suck up every story of OWT meaning nothing with a straw. And what's worse? I can NEVER find a consistent story! The eye thing? I found just as much saying "a V or a Y shape" is what mattered, not what eye. Then I found one that said those shapes didn't matter, it was the "fish hooks" in eyes -- and somehow one in the right eye was boy, one in the left was girl, but one in both was also somehow girl? What?? AND THEN I FOUND THE SAME THING BUT REVERSED! lolol
I told myself with DD: "I will never buy the OWTs again." I had plenty of boy OWTs with her, too (like the supposed hair being good? My hair was SO beautiful when I was pregnant with her that I had to lie to people about what I was doing to my hair when they asked, since I hid that pregnancy until 17 weeks or so). And I had plenty of girl ones too. But people literally used to argue with me that I was having a boy lol!
I also never had a linea nigrea with DD but now I'll have to stress if that was because of the gender!! lol ugh. SEDATE ME!
I have a Y vein in my left eye and a V vein in my right eye.. Crap, I am having twins, aren't I?!! LOL!!! I think I had a linea nigra with both of my boys. TP, I don't think those show up until later though if I remember!
Atomic had said over and over that with one of her boys she had every girl OWT in the book and he still came out all boy!!! :) :)
I think the one that *might* actually have some truth to it is being more hungry, since it's been shown that boy babies actually do need more calories in pregnancy than girls. I was STARVING the first several weeks of my pregnancy with DS2... Like, I'd eat and an hour later my stomach would be rumbling from hunger! Kinda had a hunch from that that he would be a boy. Even though my morning sickness with him started way earlier and more intense than with DS1!
But really I do think most OWTs are silly as there just can't be a correlation between most of them and gender!
TP - no I'm not on progesterone supplements... I have them, my OB prescribed with back before my first m/c. But the RE has never brought it up. That's why I've wondered if I should call my OB and ask if I should just use them... I feel like the RE wont recommend it unless my progesterone continues to drop and goes below 15, but she's not testing it again so we wont know if it does. Ugh...
I have had every symptom under the sun with all my pregnancies! Only difference this time was sore boobs for weeks and my 24 hr nausea turned into evening only.nausea at 8 weeks. Never had linea negra, had freezing feet with dd4, no rapid hair growth and carry all the same - wayyy out front. I think my boobs got bigger quicker this time tho, so my owt symptoms are all over the place!! Didn't really want any sweets or anything this time only healthy stuff up until about20 weeks which is not like me at all lol even one cookie had me feeling really sick. Now I could eat the whole packet :)
jumping in with some symptoms/OWT's ive had with my pregnancies..
4 boys (and 1 girl which ended in loss) without sore boobs, then 2 girls with very sore boobs, hmm maybe a girl thing for me i thought..WRONG baby #8 boobs soooo sore i dreaded taking my bra off and....boy!!
1 boy and 1 girl without sickness, 1 boy with horrific sickness and the rest (2 girls 3 boys) all inbetween, last few babies (both genders) have been mainly evening sickness.
splitting headaches with DD2 and very dry/itchy skin with DD3.
ive had 5 boys and 3 girls and there has been nothing that ive had with all the boys and not the girls or vice versa :)
Hey ladies, it's hard for me to keep up to speed on these threads but just wanted to let everyone know I'm thinking of you and if you need anything, I'm here, just start a thread and I'll get right back to you. I know so many of you are going through good times and hard times and I want to help however I can!
Ok atomic I'm taking you up on your offer... Just posted a new thread about my progesterone concerns :)Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
TP I agree with abc the one I have had with both my boys was hunger! So so hungry from very early on. Like, I'm a good eater (typical boy mum) but seriously I was like give me all the carbs!!!! I put on 25 kg with each pregnancy :omg: I'm only 4+ 2 now but so far no increase in hunger so I'm hoping that's a good sign!
Thank you Atomic I just posted a question in the ttc girl forum to bug you with:worry:Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Hi guys! First post in this thread! I got my first faint BFP today. I’m either 8 or 11 dpo. Not really sure from a wonky chart this month. Im 37. Live in FL. I have 2 boys (4 and 5) and hoping for a healthy baby girl! Just estimated my due date as mid Feb!
I do have one question......I am taking 2000mcg folate daily. How do I wean myself off of this?
Welcome Kjoseph and congrats!!!!!! Very exciting!!! As far as the folate... were you taking that much b/c of previous losses? I take a higher amount too - 1,600-2,400 per day - and only the folate form, not folic acid. If you are only doing the folate form I would find a prenatal vitamin that has folate, not folic acid, and then do that plus additional folate supplements to stay at about the 2,000 mcg level you've been doing for the entire first trimester. Then after the 1st tri start weaning by spacing doses out until you're down the just what's in the prenatal. Prenatals usually have 800 mcg. Atomic feels VERY strongly about continuing the folate throughout the first trimester especially if you've had losses.
Kitten - I know, the hunger thing has me nervous already in terms of gender because I have been pretty hungry!! But it's not quite at the ravenous level that I was with my son and the level of hunger seems to vary by day. Today I could basically eat everything :) I feel like I really need protein though as I feel very weak and sluggish a lot of the time and I'm wondering if that's b/c of being on LE for over a year. It's like I feel my body is screaming at me to finally give it enough protein again!!! :)
Yes! I need protein too I've eaten so much chicken and yoghurt and cereal since my bfp!Quote:
Originally Posted by ABC.2606
Welcome Kjoseph and congrats! I'm 37?with two boys too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kjoseph09
Oh my gosh I had Raisin Bran cereal last night - first bowl of cereal in probably two years.... BEST. THING. EVER!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by kittendreams
I know right? I still feel weird eating breakfast and strangely guilty! But it is just so good to eat normally again even my 3 yr old has noticed and says why are you eating meat mummy or why are you having the same as us mummy lol! He even noticed I'd switched back to tea instead of coffee haha!
Haha, you all are cracking me up with the diet change -- because now I'm not stressing as much when I first eat breakfast (though it's such a habit now that I haven't skipped it at all!). I have totally slacked on my protein intake and have eaten a lot more sugary things -- not good. I'm not even craving them or anything, I'll just eat something salty and savory and go "Hell, I don't need to watch the sweets as much now!" lol
ABC and kitten -- it's not like I WASN'T hungry with DD, haha! In the first few weeks with her, I'd go from just super nauseated to super hungry. Though I wasn't ravenous like I am now -- I was way more easily satiated compared to my constant eating now lol. But that could also be because of how I've been eating for HE all this time. I seems like a lot of us have been on our sway diets for ages lol.
Welcome kjoseph! So happy to see you in here!
At how many weeks did you have / are you having your first ultrasound? The office is going by my LMP but I have a long cycle so I am scheduled at 6w 3D for my first u/s. Should I try to push it back a week or two to make sure I can see and hear something?
Kjoseph - what CD do you think you ovulated on? I know you weren't quite sure of the day. But I'm guessing if you ovulated well past CD14 then the ultrasound may show you as measuring behind and at 6w3d you may not see the heartbeat as baby wouldn't have developed enough yet. If you ovulated just a couple of days late then maybe it wouldn't matter.
I'm having my first scan tomorrow at 5w3d but that's because the RE wants an early scan given my 3 miscarriages in the past year. I ovulated right on CD14, but I still don't expect we'll see much beyond a gestational sac & yolk sac tomorrow. We'll probably have to go back next week for another scan.
TP - Yes I want all the sweets too!!! Except today I'm feeling really nauseated and pretty much nothing sounds or tastes good. I'm still eating because I feel like I need something to settle my stomach but nothing seems to be helping! And my crazy insane burps are back! I had those with my last pregnancy (the last one I m/c) and it's like I get all this air built up, which contributes to my feeling nauseated, and then when I let it all out via burps I feel a little better. It's very weird! Not sure I remember having that with my boys.
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Originally Posted by ABC.2606
I’m pretty sure I ovulated on CD 19
Kjoseph in my experience I would go later rather than earlier. With ds2 I went at 6+2 and no heartbeat had to go back again 2 weeks later. I would say around 7?weeks is safer to hear heartbeat? Saves money and worry.
I'm not getting scanned until my panorama test at around 9 weeks so no ramzi obsessing for me this time which is probably a good thing!
Only thing with no scan until 9 + weeks is I won't know if I have twins or not until then- not that I'm expecting to but because of the clomid and being older breastfeeding third pregnancy and quite a few twins on my maternal side I guess there is a possibility! Oh well wouldn't change anything anyway so we will see!
Loving the sweets too! And yep woke up due to a burp last night and ever so slightly nauseous this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABC.2606
Another thing I've noticed is headaches on and off all day which I never had with boys.
I get it TP- with my boys I could have eaten all day and never got full just ate until the reflux was unbearable!Quote:
Originally Posted by Throwaway_panther
At the moment I get hungry, a little sick, eat then I'm good for a few hours. I think the le diet definitely decreased my appetite and shrunk my stomach if that's possible!