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If you'd like you can have those, sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazzzz
Yes that level of cran juice intake is fine.
You can use white flour as a thickening agent, absolutely. You don't need to carry things that far and avoid stuff like that.
We don't know. We have people use caffeinated coffee just in case there is something pink about the caffeine, but many people do use decaf instead and I think it's plausible that it's the coffee itself, not the caffeine, that sways
Thanks for that thats much easier i think i just need to loosen up a bit in a few areas but I've definitely begun doing that.
Is normal ice-cream ok like 1 serve a day it has normal sugar in it but it's lower sugar then most others 9grams per serve just as a treat i wouldn't eat it more then once a day. The sugar free ice-cream is like 10x the price of regular. When you say small amounts of sugar in things is ok does that include ice-cream? Strawberry jam? Just once a day. Jam would be 1 serve split between 2 wholemeal toast etc.
On other note my little one has randomly started sleeping through the night so I'm only feeding him twice a day now once before his nap and once before bed.
Also is plain salted popcorn a good snack if within limits? My boy mum side is trying to find its way back (snacks) lol so I'm trying to negotiate with good choices an not being overly strict. Like i went over in fat yesterday by 6 grams but to me thats a good sign it shows that I'm not as uptight as i was but at the same time its not something i will let happen to often I'm sticking to the limits 90% an my weight is holding.
No, you cannot have ice cream with real sugar in it unless it's a once in a while treat.
No, "small amounts of sugar" I was talking about are not in things like ice cream. Ice cream is a sugary treat like cookies, cakes, candy, etc.
The sugar I'm talking about is in other foods like sauces (remember how you asked me about sugar in spaghetti sauce?)whole grain bread, and yogurt. Things that are NOT TREATS but have a bit of extra added sugar in them are ok. Avoid treats. We include yogurt in here because finding yogurt without sugar that is still full fat is basically impossible.
Jam isn't ideal but it's ok in small amounts, it would be best if you could find fruit spread instead I suppose but it's hardly worth the fuss since you'd eat very little.
Yes, popcorn within limits is fine but it needs to be with a meal.
Ok got it.
I don't feel comfortable with taking artificial sweetener i know I've said it before and i know you never said i needed to but i have a sweet tooth so it keeps me on the diet if i can have a sweetened something once a day also i couldn't have coffee in my sway if it was without any sweetness an i want coffee in my sway for sure. So I'll have my natural healthy sweetened ice-cream an my stevia sweetened mocha sachets as my sweetened things. When i have them in the house. I kept going back and forth with this because its an inner battle between my sweet tooth an hating artificial sweeteners I hate them so I'll completely stop them. I know I've asked before but did you use any sweet stuff in your sway? I think you said you avoided sugar but didn't use artificial sweetener? I can't remember sorry. What sweet stuff can i put in my coffees when i don't have my Stevia sweetened coffee sachets in the house? So 2-4 times a day? Is it just white sugar thats a no no. Can we use honey or maple syrup? Stevia? Have you seen stevia used tons in girl sways? So it 100% doesn't sway boy? I'd like to use a little stevia, honey or maple syrup in my coffees. This would make me happier so long as its not going to damage my sway that is.
Also my friend had 2 girls no boys different dads
With the 1st she
Ate like a sparrow
Did drugs
Smoked
Drank
Lots of caffeinated coffee
Low body fat
2nd (7 years later)
Ate like a sparrow
No drugs
No alcohol
No smoking
Lots of decaf coffee
Low body fat
Its so interesting looking at people's lifestyles an their childrens genders lol
At the point in time when I was swaying (back in 2011, I had my daughter in 2012) we didn't know about the sugar/PCOS thing and I've never had any PCO tendencies anyway, always had a regular cycle and always eat tons of sweets. I had plenty of regular sugar and I didn't use artificial sweetener at all since I got my 4th boy while using it and I just wasn't interested in bothering with it any more. I even had a cheat and used sugar in my morning coffee because I just wasn't willing to give it up, since I already knew I could be miserable and deprived and get a boy anyway.
Honey and maple syrup are sugar.
Stevia, we do not know how it sways, and I would never say anything 100% ever anyway. I don't believe in "alkalinity" but at the same time without a study, I can't say definitively how anything sways. If it helps you stick to the diet, and if it helps you snap out of this mental cycle you're in with these artificial sweeteners (which I promise is by far worse for your sway than anything you ingest) then it makes sense to include it.
I think you need to pick something and stop thinking about it.
I know right my brain is hard wired ocd but it fluctuates one week i don't care the next week i need to fine tune my sway down to the very last detail. What doesn't change is my hate for artificial sweeteners so they are gone. I've actually been drinking my coffees just with almond milk or cows milk which are both sweetened a bit so i tell myself the milk has sugar in it an so that gets me through mentally an that little bit of sugar in the milk actually helps alot it beats black coffee any day. Some times i add a little sugar free drinking chocolate which has erythritol, cocoa, Stevia extract. I'm just telling myself a little bit of anything already added is ok but I'm not ADDING anything honey, sugar, sweetner, maple syrup, etc and it completely takes the thinking out of it.
I will buy some fruit spread that has no sweetener or sugar in it its just 95% fruit and I'll mix a small amount (1 serve) into my after dinner yoghurt so i feel like I'm having a dessert. Apart from that I'm doing well. Still waiting for my period to return I've noticed more cm since my son started sleeping through the night an is only breastfeeding 2 times in 24hrs so hopefully thats a sign that my fertility is returning slowly.
It's absolutely fine to vary by the day and week and month too. I find that the people who are just going with the flow have a lot easier time sticking to diet than those who are really consumed with worrying about everything they eat (people who get too insanely restrictive often end up in that binge-purge cycle, which is terribly destructive for health and sway, because they have a moment of weakness and eat everything in the house because they won't bend an inch on a super strict diet to help them stick to it in the long term), and they have better results with their sways too. Flexibility is our friend here so if you want chocolate sometimes and it helps you stick with the diet mostly, that's great.
:agree: the yogurt sounds like a good solution! FX for your cycle resuming soon!
Cool thanks for that.
Is it ok if i have coffee with a splash of milk and 1 tsp of Stevia like 5-6 times a day first thing in the morning /between meals etc? I've taken a liking to it and it really helps me get through the day because I've been finding myself feeling hungrier lately an tons of coffees helps so much both caffeine an non. I just hope like the old swayers use to say i hope Stevia doesn't sway boy. But how could it unless its got some magic vitamin or mineral in it that we don't yet know about and its a major boy swayer. I think the high coffee intake will be more of a strong girl sway then the stevia so I'll keep telling myself that lol I'm not ingesting any other sweetner or sugary additive.
I know you say 2-3 12-16 ounce servings per day but does that include stevia since its not an artificial sweetener? So thats 4-6 cups an about what I'm doing daily with the stevia anyway
That's what I did and what most people do. Have coffee or diet pop between meals (some people chew sugarfree gum) and then stick to the diet.
The stevia was supposedly "alkalinizing" but none of that pH stuff works and is completely unscientific. I have my full debunking of pH here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum...ph-pickle.html
that was for aspartame only. I don't have any guidelines for the other sweeteners really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazzzz
Great thats just great I'm way more at ease with the stevia and it is giving me a yummy bridge between meals which to me feels like I'm having a snack it also helps ne forget about food. I'm becoming that person that lives on coffees through out the day an this was never me lol that big change should also help my sway.
Trying not to be particular lol but would a splash of milk be 3 tbsp roughly? I'm using mostly almond milk so that to me makes me feel better since its way less in everything compared to cows milk.
My almond milk 1 cup
4 fat
2 pro
66 cal
Even less sugar an carbs but can't remember exactly
And my cows milk 1 cup
9 fat
8 pro
157 cal
Is it right that almond milk gives a bit more leeway? I'm being silly probably but i feel like I'm cheating with all these splash of milk/stevia coffees through out the day lol it feels too good to be true haha. I read online just now that almond milk is best while fasting an 1/3 cup max also under 50cals. Is that your thoughts too? I'm actually having about 3 tbsp of unsweetened almond milk which is 40mils I'm not measuring it although that nagging boy mum inside would like too. I just want to run stuff by you so i stop thinking about it and i feel like my splash of milk mite be way off lol like maybe your splash of milk is like 1 tbsp.
I don't want you to measure the milk. However much you need to feel like you're not drinking it black, as long as you are being cautious not to end up drinking a serving's worth of milk in it!
You have simply got to stop obsessing about unimportant things like the difference between cow and almond milk. Have whichever one you like. Have one sometimes and the other sometimes. It simply doesn't matter. Thinking about these details is absolutely ruinous to a sway. Stop worrying about things that make no difference and please please I beg you stop looking stuff up like this because it truly does not matter whatsoever.
I'm definitely not having a whole serving per coffee because the milk labels here in nz say 1 serving is the whole cup (8oz) I'm only having 1-2 ounces of unsweetened Almond milk in each coffee. Is the 1gram of fat in it ok like multiple times a day? Also I'm not counting in my coffees or adding it to my daily numbers at all? I'm trying to not count the small things to take my brain out of it as much as possible . So the little things here an there I'm actually trying not to count is that ok?
On a side note my son is nearly 17 months old and i still don't have my period back! If it's not back by the time he turns 18 months old I'd like to try something to bring it back even if that means wean him and either try start back up some feed after my period returns or maybe pump if he won't take the breast back. Does pumping sway pink or is ot something in the actual breastfeeding hormones? Maybe if i weaned him but kept pumping maybe my period would still come back because of not actually feeding. I don't know but i thought my period would be back by now. He's been only feeding once at night an once in the day for like 2wks now. Do you think it's highly likely to come soon even if i continue these feeds as is? That would be the best option all round.
Yes, that's right.
Just don't count it. I don't care if it adds a bit of fat. Yes, you will need to be honest with yourself if you're actually having the equivalent of a LOT of fat/cals in one day, and if you TRULY (and I mean TRULY, not some mental game you're playing with yourself as an anxiety relief mechanism, but actually in reality having the equivalent of a serving) but most people do the reverse - they cut back without really realizing it and end up consuming less than they assume they're getting.
You need to put all this on autopilot. No more worrying about this thing or that thing 200 times a day, it needs to be done, settled, out of sight out of mind.
You should not do or take anything to 'bring your cycle back'. Those things generally don't work, and when they do appear to work, it's often because a person's cycle was coming back on its own anyway (there are often people who will tell me "but I KNOW this miracle herb worked because I took it and got my period 3 days later - but that wasn't from the miracle herb, because you have to ovulate before you get a period, so those people's perception was simply a coincidence.) In fact, I see SO many cases of disrupted cycles in people who take various herbs that I am all but 100% sure the herbs actually make it take longer for a good many people who take them.
The way to get your cycle to come back is by waiting. It will come back at any time. Be sure you're eating enough, as starving yourself can then make your body too "nervous" to keep ovulating (and of course that can happen even without nursing!) If you're nursing only 2x a day and eating enough it's all but certain your cycle will come back soon.
It does not make any sense to try to wean him and then get him to go back on the breast (why would you do that?? For your sway?? But the control freakishness required would sway so hugely blue that it would negate any benefit of nursing!) It will only be frustrating for you both. Do not do it, not for your sake, but for his, as I suspect that would be a negative experience for a child. I'm not a psychologist but there's something about that which does not feel right to me in terms of his well being. If you want to wean, wean. If you want to keep nursing, keep nursing. Don't try to set up some magic scenario where you can have everything, because this is one of those times where you have to pick a lane.
It does not make any sense to pump. It is not the act of nursing itself but the lactation hormones and pumping will continue to maintain them. Plus, again, it is SO control freakish to do this, you are literally killing your sway in order to save it.
From my perspective, this is simply another manifestation of your control freakishness. Making some ridiculously complicated, totally unnecessary plan out of an inability to simply leave things and wait for something that you want to force to happen, or to accept that something that you wanted to have (in this case, conceiving while nursing) just isn't on the table for you, is about as control freakish as it gets.
You can either have patience and keep nursing and your cycle will return (probably very soon) or you can wean and your cycle will also return. There's no magic way where you can have it all here, just doesn't work that way.
I thought of it because most people know that if you interrupt eb with pumping your fertility can return so you can't rely on breastfeeding as birth control like alot of people do. If your just eb no pumping before 6 months its as safe a birth control as condoms. I was just trying to see if there is something i can do to speed up the return of my period. I would try restart breastfeeding because I'd rather keep breastfeeding i went through alot to get here but your right that would be confusing to him. I'll continue as we are, thinking about it now I'm not ready.
I've had 2 days of sweet cheats lately homemade cookies basic 4 ingredients butter, sugar, cocoa, flour super quick an easy an omg orgasmic lol i had to make them for my sons class shared lunch so i made like 50 big mistake lol once i had 1 couldn't stop it was like a drug its so normal for me to bake an eat baked goods daily i ate 8 cookies on each day of these cheats two days in a row i also didn't exercise on those two days. Which makes me nervous so maybe not conceiving tomorrow will be a good thing lol. (one of the cheat days i only went a little over in fat an pro an the next cheat day i didn't go over in anything) i guess that makes it a little better. This is why i wanna speed things up i feel myself giving up or maybe i just need to change reset my mindset an get back on track. I can do this.
I'm taking 1 or 2 ovulation tests a day and i was wondering if i actually got a pos opk would i do my 1 attempt at or wait till my period starts so i can include my clomid? I guess I'd give one attempt just because I've already waited so long but having that clomid would be much better right?
Yes, that's the problem with not letting yourself have cheats now and then, is that once you start eating, you can't stop. So it's actually best to have cheats when you're really craving something, so you don't set yourself up to binge on stuff. But it's ok, just let it go and move on from here. That's what often happens with cheat days too - people are devastated by them but then realize they didn't even go over limits, or only just barely did. All is well, you can do this, just pick it up and move on.
Re whether to have an attempt or wait for Clomid, that's up to you. Totally at your discretion. Unfortunately my crystal ball is in the shop this week, that pesky thing, so I can't honestly know what is the better option. So follow your gut instinct and see how it goes.
Cool thank you so much and it kinda makes me feel normal to know that others feel devastated too by their cheats and not just me over reaching lol.
I can feel ovulation cramps today but still no positive opk I'll keep testing had increased cm last few days too so maybe these things mean i mite ovulate over the next few days
I think the stevia is making me crave and cave sweet foods it's really bad so i cheated on the cookies 2 days in a row the other day and this morning i cheated with 4 pancakes an jam and i had already just eaten. I'm getting disheartened by my lack of self control all of a sudden.
Hmmm or is it my hormones an I'm leading up to ovulation thats changed my apatite? Like i said the yesterday I've got increased cm cramps and this evening my opk is by far the darkest its been since i conceived last time. Something I'm thinking maybe the reason I've cheated 3 times over the last 7 days is because my ovulation is approaching. Anyway these darker lines have given me the push i needed to stick to the diet avoid sugar etc. A part of me actually wonders if the cheats are helping my body activate ovulation like the extra fat/sugar/cals that are in cookies and pancakes just giving my body that extra energy /boost towards ovulation. I'm excited though can't wait to test tomorrow. Will keep you posted. Also if i do ovulate an conceived would those cheats have a negative effect on my sway?. I've been on Diazepam for the last week to help chill me out chilling out mite also help me ovulate and my sway. Fingers crossed.
Last thing me an my partner have both been arguing heaps lately both under alot of stress trying to sell our house an my partner starting a new job. I mean worst argument 3 days long we haven't argued like this since we were younger (years ago) can that fighting make us both sway boy? Or nothing to it?
oh interesting observation. I find diet drinks make me hungrier so it may be there's something to that for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazzzz
Most people find an increase in hunger after ovulation, not necessarily before, but anything is possible.
It can be that eating a little more helps you to ovulate.
I can't tell anyone if a set of cheats hurt their sway. All I can say is that I've seen people very concerned about cheating who still went on to get girls.
I would not worry about the fighting (although I'm sorry, that sounds very unfun) I'd worry about the control freakishness having to do with your sway.
Ok yeah I'm going to let it go have a bath tonight have fun together and destress together have a few drinks or watch a movie together once kids are in bed.
I know my control freakishness is bad at times i wish it wasn't so. I do have antidepressants that work well for ocd so maybe i should just start it today. I also need to start folic acid haven't started it. I'm drinking coffee round the clock an loving it its like a snack for me now,I'm having most just black with stevia an loving it. I just thought actually the Diazepam can cause hunger too but i definitely think theres something in the sweeteners i wounder if thats why mums who eat tons of sweetener have opposites maybe it's making them cheat alot or eat more. Just looked online an it can cause people to eat more interesting. Hopefully its not cause they do what I'm doing black coffee with sweetener round the clock!
Is it ok that I'm drinking decafe an stevia alot outside of meals? I've taken a liking to it an it feels like cheating not having milk. only have milk in my with a meal coffee or not at all just by choice really i don't notice it missing so may aswel not have the added fat etc an also don't want to be going through the milk if itw not needed anyway plilus food prices. Im sure its ok but just doesn't feel like fasting with all these hot sweet drinks. Its 12 cals of stevia plus just black decaf I'm having 1-2 after dinner an 1-2 before my 11am breakfast then one before lunch an once before dinner. Atleast 2 are caffeine coffee throughout the day. I'm being ocd lol it just feels to good to be girl swaying.
I have not seen anyone doing that so I can't say how it affects sways. But I did definitely drink about that much coffee when I got my girl. (without the stevia added)
I worry about the high stevia intake maybe could sway boy since we don't know an old swayers swore by it as a good boy swayer. So most mums are having coffee with a splash of any milk an some have sweetener some have none right? Is it like half of mums drinking it round the clock an half having an few coffees a day obviously some having none. But do you mean you haven't seen anyone doing stevia with coffee round the clock or coffee round the clock with or without a splash of milk? My gut tells me what I'm doing sways boy. I think when i feel like I'm cheating i actually am lol and my body knows it. Like when i have a black coffee with or without a splash of milk i feel like my body gets nothing from it but when i have stevia or aspartame i feel my body be relieved by it somehow just like how a snack feels when fasting. Who knows but i think how and when we drink coffee mite be important.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
I just want to be doing everything the same as most successful girl swayers did.
I know despite a few cheats my diet is great its never been so different for so long in my life but i worry i mite d
Undo that by snacking on sweet coffees when I'm suppose to be fasting instead. I think we need to know more about the fasting hrs in both successful and failed sways. Like are more women who have sweetener an a splash of milk while in fasting hrs failing while mums who are just having black or a splash of milk are having more success. I believe something in sweeteners while fasting is having the body react negatively for a girl sway. Thats the feeling i get physically an spirituality with sweeteners taken in fasting hours. Call me ocd lol but I'm going to stop all sweeteners during my 14 over night fasting hours.
Found all my sweetner answers here.
https://brunetteonamission.com/healt...f#comment-1831
What a great read it is on different sweeteners and their effects on different fasts and it makes so much sense this is why aspartame and my stevia make me feel like I've had a snack (my stevia just so happens to be mostly erythritol which is processed and absorbed by the gut which to the body feels like a snack. I truly think theres something in the sweeteners. I think the only sweetener anyone should be using while swaying girl is pure stevia and that includes with meals because of the long term effects on gut/ir etc. Especially for women girl swaying on pcos/alt diet most sweeteners probably sway boy for women with insulin issues.
I'd love to see what if any change would happen in girl sways overall if only pure stevia was used or no sweetners. Since pcos/alt diet has taken the insulin issue woman away from sugar and carbs its pushed them towards sweeteners which mite for them only be slightly better then sugar. I would hazard a guess that people who have insulin issues crave sugar so are more likely if told to avoid sugar will go to sweeteners and not just a little but ALOT. Maybe inadvertently swaying boy. It lines up with the failed girl swayers who took tons of sweetener!! Also sweeteners increase cravings for sugar and increase hunger making people eat more and increase their sweet tooth making them use more an more sweetner and cheat with sugar.
But obviously if stevia causes you to have sugar cravings or increased hunger we should go without stevia too. I'm going to try a pure stevia instead of my erythritol based one because it's making me crave real sugar really badly.
Kazz, I'm not even going to read all this. This has gone on long enough and I really don't appreciate the undertone of this last exchange. If you'd like to take this advice, after you looked and looked till you could come up with something to feed into your own belief system about artificial sweeteners swaying hugely when they obviously do no such thing, that's fine, but I assure you that sways don't come down to these types of meaningless details. I am not going to change the advice I give anyone because I have seen by far more than you have. 2 servings of ANY artificial sweetener is fine in a sway, I know this because I have seen people using different artificial sweeteners and getting girls. And what's more, sending people on these sorts of wild goose chases where they worry about things that cannot possibly be making any difference whatsoever actually DOES wreck sways, and so I would not support anything that does that.
I have answered your questions on sweeteners within an inch of my life. Even after I have told you point blank you are actively destroying your sway with this, it continues on and on. I'm at a loss. If you truly want to do as others have done, then don't use stevia. Or use it! Also cool! Pick a lane and stick with it, because you are blowing up your sway with this stuff.
I mean no disrespect or anything and i'm not trying to question you or your advice I'm really grateful for your help. I'm just saying if all artificial sugars increase hunger and sweet cravings meaning more people cheat and if all artificial sweeteners except stevia can create ir issues or make them worse would it be safer for girl swayers to also avoid sweeteners? But if a sweetner is needed use pure stevia but watch out for increased hunger an sweet cravings?
I'm just saying sweeteners have made swaying girl harder for me. To start with it was great then i started get cravings like really badly especially sugar cravings. I've decided to drop all sweeteners but will retry with pure stevia in a few weeks and I'll see if that gives me cravings or not.
It is not. It is not safer for people to limit their options for no reason. It is not necessary and the more complicated we make swaying, a) the less compliance we have, especially for people with PCOS who actually NEED to have some fake sugar sometimes to be able to stick to the diet without eating a bunch of actual sugar and b) the more detail oriented and control freak people get, worrying about this food and that food and every morsel they put in their mouths, and for the umpteenth time, it is THAT which wrecks people's sways. Plus, if there is anything to stevia swaying blue, (and for all we know there may be! We don't know how swaying works and I am not the font of all earthly wisdom, the old schoolers may be right about stevia, we have no data either way) we have then in effect lowered people's success rates based on theory upon theory, none of which have been even remotely proven. Blood sugar is a THEORY. That lady's writeup about how all those fake sugars affect the body are THEORIES. Theory, theory, theory, the FACT is that I have seen plenty of people use a reasonable amount of fake sugar in their sways, of all different sorts, and get girls doing that. (If they didn't, I wouldn't recommend it!!) It is also a fact that if I don't allow it, the people who believe in it will want to use it anyway, and may end up using too much, and others will think "what a weird site, not letting me use aspartame" and then go somewhere else where the advice is both more dangerous and worse for pink!
Most pink swayers use at least some artificial sweetener. Most pink swayers get girls regardless. It is only that small subset of people who are invariably going completely squirrel nutkins with swaying anyway, who ingest massive tons of it who ~seemed to~ in my observations - not a study but my observations - get more boys than expected. ANOTHER THEORY! Totally unproven! Less than a theory, completely anecdotal! The people back on Ingender all certainly believe that aspartame, even a lot of aspartame, sways pink...and maybe they're the ones that are right, and my observations are what is wrong. Maybe we're both wrong and aspartame does nothing. It's pretty darn clear that swaying simply cannot be coming down to presence or absence of fake sugar, since that would be very clearcut and easy to observe, and we aren't observing that.
Sweeteners have not made swaying harder for you. You have made swaying harder for yourself by constantly overthinking every single detail. Lots of people have cravings who don't use fake sugar at all. And a LOT of people really enjoy and rely on some aspartame to make it through and will have by far worse cravings without it. Yup, artificial sweetener is making you hungrier. I agree, I find that to be true too - but once, when I wasn't TTC, I lost a lot of weight using aspartame and it was helpful. My body did adjust to it fairly quickly; some cravings and being hungry between meals, while unpleasant, are not going to destroy you. You can play around with your eating schedule in ways to mitigate that effect. It is possible and I know it's possible because people do it and I have done it in the past.
If you don't like the artificial sweetener drop it and move on. Switch to stevia and move on. Hey, even eat sugar and move on if you'd like. But you are not going to pester me into agreeing with you over this completely meaningless detail as an anxiety relief mechanism because I have some extremely well-thought-out reasons why I suggest the things I do based on 12 years of experience watching people sway and seeing not only their outcomes but their happiness/sanity level while swaying. And I ain't changing it in order to make you feel slightly better about your sway, period, end of story.
I’m just stopping by to reassure you I got 2 girls with massive stevia intake (multiple coffees throughout the day yes with cream) and a boy without stevia but still having coffee. Just make your coffee drinkable and forget it. Lots of girl moms I know have mega sweet tooth’s but don’t eat a lot of real foods.
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I don't want you to do anything but see what I'm saying. Do you think artificial sweeteners can trigger ir issues or make them worse? It's not unreasonable to think that maybe this could be why the mums who eat tons of it have less success with swaying girl? Anyway yes i am trying to reduce my ocdness just found that very interesting. I'm happy just going by how i feel on the day/moment if i want milk, sugar, stevia or even a little sweetner here an there if theres no otger option then I'll have some, I'm trying to go with the flow i really am. I just noticed my sweet cravings went through the roof while taking erythritol but actually it mite of been because of how much i was talking like i said round the clock 6 coffees a day 2 servings in each cup so maybe high intake is not so great. My cravings have stopped now since i stopped erythritol so I'm happy about that and even my hunger has reduced now. Anyway moving on from thinking about sweeteners, letting go.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Why do you assume I haven't already done hours of research into all this and already know this and have discounted it? Sometimes I give people a briefer explanation on some issue simply because getting into the nitty gritty is confusing and encourages control freakishness (and this is especially true when it is someone who I know has issues in that department already) Sometimes I try more to reassure/offer support than to write an encyclopedia, when I think that's what people need from me. The answers I give are based in people's responses to similar questions over the years - what has helped them, what has reassured them, what has confused them, etc.
Fact - MOST people do not want answers to exacting detail, MOST people already believe my answers are overly detailed, MOST people's eyes kind of glaze over when I write too much, and I am always, always on guard against triggering control freakishness since it ruins sways, so (believe it or not) I attempt to err on the side of brevity rather than writing War-and-Peace length replies in which I delve into every aspect of everything under the sun in every post I write. The amount of work I put in on this site is but a fraction of the time I have spent reading books, research, blogs, and all the rest of it. I have invested not only time but a good deal of money into accruing information that I share with you guys in the ways I think the average person understands at the level of detail people need from me. This doesn't mean I don't know things that I don't happen to bring up.
Perhaps more importantly, why do you assume I don't see what you're saying?? I assure you I do, but I am taking dozens of factors into account in the advice I give (as I've already expained in mind-numbing detail). I DISAGREE WITH YOU for all the reasons I already spelled out. A person can fully understand a point, and disagree with it. YOUR CONCERN IS NOT A CONCERN I HAVE.
I find - and this is in no way just you, it's something I run into at times - that people who are insanely wound up about their sways do not like it when I disagree with them. Some people just desperately want my approval on every element of their sway and will argue to the mat trying to wrest it out of me. Or, maybe it's just that you don't really bother to read my replies, I've gotten that vibe before from you on several occasions, and I find it extremely disrespectful of my time and energy - not "too many questions" but that you DO NOT BOTHER TO READ MY ANSWERS. Maybe it's a combination of both, or maybe this is sheer anxiety relief for you and nothing more (but that is still very disrespectful of my time and energy). I'm not sure what your deal is, I honestly thought I'd seen it all at this point but this is just completely out of my experience.
I am over this artificial sweetener thing and if you ask me another question on the matter I'm going to lock this thread. Now, to answer your question once again, for the FINAL TIME, I do not think that artificial sweeteners cause or trigger IR issues in the manner in which we use them here on this site, and indeed, the manner most, and possibly ANY people use them in. If they did, I would not recommend them.
This is ending here, now, immediately, today, this minute. Your next question had better be about something that I haven't already answered you on several times already, and it had darn well better not be about artificial sweetener.
And for anyone who thinks this is an overly harsh response, this is from page 10 of this thread. 10+ pages of artificial sweetener responses is enough to ask of me. Thanks for understanding, everyone - I am only human and I can only take so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush