Atomic, would this be the case with women who do not have confirmed PCOS, but are still in the PCOS LE diet for being on the heavier side?Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
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Atomic, would this be the case with women who do not have confirmed PCOS, but are still in the PCOS LE diet for being on the heavier side?Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
I can't keep up with these long support threads, just happened to click on this, please simply start a new post in the forums and I will see that.
And YES it does.
Bump! I know lots of people are looking for LE PCOS support, let's use this already existing thread to share ideas!
Anyone else currently on the PCOS LE diet? I'm on my third week so still in the 'getting to grips with it' stage. It's been helpful to read back through this thread for meal ideas.
Has anyone added intermittent fasting to their LE pcos diet? After much deliberation with going HT I think we are going to just try to sway once more. I am desperately needing meal ideas though. One thing I did eat myself when we conceived the girl we lost at 14 weeks is a veggie chili with lots of beans and veggies and topped with some parmesan. I'm thinking I may make enough to eat on for a week and have easy microwavable meals all week.
The overnight 12-16 hour fast IS a type of intermittent fasting.
I worry with fasting where you're not eating every day that ovulation will stop. I've just seen that happen too many times to people eating lower cals even just sometimes, to feel good about that for swaying. But if you can do it without stopping ovulation, then I do think it could help sway pink.
I actually need femara to ovulate anyway but dont think I can do much more than 20 hours for fasting. I have lost about 30 lbs over the last 6 or so months and have been mostly only eating in a 6-8 hour window for a few months now. I'm trying to cut out most meat now but it feels like I then cant eat anything but vegetables. No fruit, no carb, no meat, no eggs, no nuts. Augh! �� the PCOS diet has the best results for pink swaying though, correct? I will do whatever it takes. Can you tell me this though...which is the safer cheat? Meat or carbs/sugar?
110% better cheat is meat for PCOS Diet. If you do need a carb cheat, fruit and whole grains are good.
Can u clarify as to why you're not eating nuts, meat, eggs, fruit? You can have those things on PCOS diet.
Yes PCOS-type diet has gotten better results BUT we can't know if that is because the people who go onto it are coming in more "set" for pink or because it's easier to change the "settings" for those with PCOS. without side by side studies both across the population and with people who have PCOS I can't totally know if this is a legit finding or a quirk. We can tell, though, that it's certainly not a dealbreaker to do the alt. diet (which I know many worry about since it is more nutrient dense)
I guess I was just trying to throw everything at it since those are normally boy friendly. I guess pcos le is a whole different animal though. My last sway I ate so much beans and broccoli but Im thinking maybe it was too much carbs and protein? I need to just start with focusing on 50 or so grams of fat and protein a day and fill in a little brown rice or rye toast, hummus, etc to add some calories to make sure it's about 1200? Is lean chicken the best option for protein? Can I use butter and sour cream for fat? I started about 6 months ago at a little over 200 lb ( I have started every pregnancy between 190-200) and I am about 170 lb now. I have at least another 20 I can stand to lose so is mid November too early for a first attempt? I mostly have used intermittent fasting and kind of trim healthy mama diet to lose the weight. (Alternating low carb higher fat meals with low fat higher carb) I just started really working out every day, also. Inositol has also helped me and I have used it for months now.
For all we know, though, you had an ideal sway and then just fell into the 25% of opposites, you know??
But yeah you're right the PCOS diet is a different animal. Keep in mind that we started off with an assumption - not proven fact, but assumption - that foods that were nutrient dense invariably swayed blue. Over time that has not proven true (and in fact some of the peopel who were the most restrictive got boys, not girls!) so now we allow a lot more leeway in the "forbidden food" dept. The fortified foods like cereals, vitamin drinks, etc really do seem to sway blue but normal food just doesn't seem to sway as long as u stick in the limits. And with the PCO tendencies, we've found it best to up the protein and fat intake and keep in the limits, cutting carbs by default. So you have some room for meat, eggs, nuts, etc. Not a lot of room, but some. and it's going to be WAY better for your sway than lots of carbs because of the blood sugar thing. The inositol has gotten good results too.
I think you're 100% on the right track and I don't think November is too early. November is when I got my girl and I think it's our lucky month! :heart:
Oh and yes that's exactly right - hit the limits and then fill in around that with carbs, then the low carb veggies you add on top of that as filler since they're free and unllimited!
Sorry to have hijacked this thread it seems. Does anyone have ideas for small meals you can take with you in a couple ziplocks, etc? I am out of the house often on the weekends so need to plan ahead to avoid temptation. I was considering the small containers of peanut butter and maybe a baggie of baby carrots and sliced apple. Maybe some triscuits also.
One more thing. Is alcohol ok for PCOS diet also?
Browsing this thread - What is inositol? Is it a sway tactic and, if so, how does one use it?
can you bump this for me???
Yes alcohol is ok but I want to post the explanation and give some ideas for snacks on the go but out of time now
Bump! Thanks. :)
I'm watching this thread to get some ideas if we sway again next year.
I've had two opposites on Le diet so I think I need to try something different. Good luck ladies xx
Augh so sorry I opened this up again to post and had to close wihtout replying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shenanigans
I want to explain why it is that alcohol is ok on the PCOS LE Diet when it's not on any other type of PCOS Diet.
If you're eating a diet that is already bad for PCOS (super carby, sugary, etc) and then you throw alcohol on top of that (not to mention not exercising, carrying extra weight) that is extra bad for PCOS. BUT what we are doing on LE Diet is NOT that. We are cutting carbs all together, getting our carbs from healthy sources, losing some weight overall, hopefully exercising, and eating in patterns that are better for blood sugar overall. So we can add in the alcohol without messing up our PCO (most of the time. occasionally someone wiht severe PCOS will have to drop alcohol) because we've made so many positive changes to correct the PCO tendencies.
Cheese sticks, whole grain crackers, cherry tomatoes (I have never eaten as many cherry tomatoes as I did when I was swaying LOL)
They have these kind of "gogurt" tubes that are made of greek yogurt now that are great.
I know a lot of you guys try to avoid meat but there is not much going on in a couple slices of lunch meat and it's really handy to take a roll or two of deli turkey in a baggie.
They also have some pretty yum snacks now that are made of things like dried peas and chickpeas. I ate TONS of wasabi peas when I was swaying. They've got a little protein in them and they're spicy so you eat them slow.
Does anyone know if the LE diet or the LE PCOS diet has had more success getting a girl? I am currently on the LE diet, but have been getting bloated and not feeling so great on it. So I was thinking of maybe combining the two diets. (I am also gluten free and it can be quite difficult to find whole grain foods that are gluten free). But I thought if I could at least add in a few of the PCOS foods, maybe it will help me feel a little better.
Ive also seen people on here say that they had a failed sway on the LE diet, so they are switching to the PCOS version. This made me think that the PCOS version had more success?
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We don't know for sure because if people are doing the standard LE Diet when they should be doing the PCOS-type diet, that may make them more likely to conceive boys, but this doesn't necessarily translate to those who don't need the PCOS-type diet, if that makes sense.
We have gotten great results with PCOS-type diet BUT the catch is - it's harder to stick to, it is way more expensive, and it will make people lose tons of weight if they don't need to be on it. I would definitely experiment with having everyone try that diet, but those things keep me from doing so.
But you can absolutely use some of the foods - although can you tell me what you think "PCOS foods" even are?
Yes gluten free can be a challenge to combine with the PCOS-type diet, because many gluten free foods are fairly high carb.
I have never been told that I have PCOS; but I have had 3 times in the past 2 years where I may have had cysts on my ovaries. Once it was confirmed, the other two times I had the same symptoms (ovary pain, nausea, bloating) and just figured it was a cyst and waited it out. Not sure if that would even be enough to be considered PCOS though.
I only weigh 100 pounds, I’ve always been petite and have lost 11 pounds on the LE diet since starting it in August (I was 110 when I started, now I keep going back and forth between 99-101 pounds). So I certainly can’t lose any more weight.
I figured PCOS foods were more veggies and multi grain or whole wheat breads. Is this correct? To my amazement I was able to find a gluten free whole grain bread the other day, so I picked that up. But non white flour gluten free items are hard to come by.
Ovarian cysts aren't neccessarily PCOS cysts though. PCOS cysts have a certain appearance and manifestation and many people get cysts that aren't PCOS related.
Yes I thought I remembered you were having a hard time keeping weight on. It's fine for you to switch to whole grains - but do be aware we've had good results on gluten free diets too. VEgetables are free and unlimited on every version of LE Diet so please feel free to eat those.
Thank you! That’s good to know. I just thought PCOS would be a reoccurrence if cysts. I was starting to get concerned. Thank you for clarifying[emoji4]
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Nope, there are several types and most of them aren't PCOS-related.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maureenhdez
Hiya
I just have a couple of questions - I know sugar isn't the best for PCOS, are there any specific treats that are ok? I have such a sweet tooth and I know I'll struggle without a couple of 'better choice' backups!
Also, does it affect your sway if you need to do the diet long term, i.e. a year or more? I struggled with ovulation before becoming pregnant this time so just in case I have the same problem again..
Thank you!
While we have had some concerns that people may eventually get "used" to the diet and it might not sway as hard, it will STILL sway pink, it just may have a little less "oomph" than it did - and this is entirely hypothetical anyway. Our results have shown that anything longer than 12 weeks on diet (even 6/9/12 months still gets good results)
When you have a sweet tooth try to keep in mind this isn't an all or nothing diet. If you eat something sweet now and then, but are overall eating much less sugar and carbs than you were, it's all good. What I would do is focus on mostly whole grains and fruits and nuts/PB (which are great for quelling cravings) then when yo're really craving something, think about what it is you really want and HAVE IT. Don't try to placate yourself eating an apple and a bunch of nuts and some crackers and then realize you've just eaten 1000 cals of nothing and decide "oh screw it"...then you eat the thing you want plus 100 other things besides.
Thanks for that atomic, a way to keep me sane!
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What is quorn like for this diet?
Thanks Atomic! Great advice as always
It's ok but does have a fair amount of carbs in it. So you may want to focus more on getting protein from dairy, eggs, even a bit of meat now and then because depending on the severity of your PCOS quorn may be somewhat too carby for every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lauralau09
Thanks Atomic, I will avoid then I think seeing as I don't like it much anyway
One more question, how many mg should the fibre supplement be? I've tried looking for this info on another thread and couldn't find anything but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm asking you a question you've answered a thousand times! I can find a lot of 500mg psyillium husk supplements, would this be a good choice?
Thank you!
Laura
Different types of fiber come in different measurements and so I can't give a standard recommendation.
That is fine, just take one with any meal tht has fat in it.
Hi Atomic I’m starting to play around with the pcos diet due to two opposites on le diet.
This is today’s food prediction how is it looking to you? I normally wouldn’t have pork but family are coming over tonight. No rush to get back to me I’ve got months before I sway.
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agh I'm sorry I can't see these, can you repost them in larger size?
Bump!
This is a great thread. Maybe we can update it with current PCOS meal ideas!
Yes please! I’d be super keen for easy lunch ideas that aren’t boring or salad ... and easy bulk family meals. I’ve got hungry boys and work massive shifts. I’ll post some as I come across some - I’m not trying yet but will be next year.
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I am so very sorry to hear about your loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shenanigans
I know this is a late reply, but I started intermittent fasting recently and enjoy that lifestyle. I plan to continue when I sway and use it as a positive. If you see this, I’d love to hear your experience of fasting while swaying as I can’t find many others who are doing it also (well ... actually no one).
In terms of lunch meals, I was going to make a bulk ratatouille for work days and sprinkle it with Parmesan. There’s also something delicious about tomato and cheese on crackers (good and whole grain ones of course) with lots of cracked black pepper and salt.
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I’ve been doing intermittent fasting for years! I feel really good on this type of eating, I’m not bloated in the evening and I keep my weight within the same range easily. My eating window is usually 8-9 hours. I must say that I got my two boys on it! But I never watched WHAT I eat bank then, just WHEN. This time I will do intermittent fasting plus watching protein, fat and calories. I did recently stop snacking (really hard for me!), cereal (was my staple breakfast) and juices (I did a lot!), limited red meat (really hard!) and added coffee (never had before).Quote:
Originally Posted by MsDashwood
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Yes please do - I love to keep the old threads going rather than starting new ones, makes it easier for people to read a few threads than many. Please share everyone!Quote:
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Originally Posted by Thirdtimelucky01
Oh wow - interesting you got your two boys from it. Isn’t it a great way of eating - I have been odd it for a week as I’ve been overseas and I just feel bloated.
Maybe fasting isn’t overall pink friendly due to your boys, but then again your foods sound boyish. Who doesn’t love snacking outside their fasting window!!
I’d be so keen to continue to see how you go and any recipe ideas. The low protein is hard for me. Not because I eat a lot of meat, but I work 12-13 hour days so I use our slow cooker A LOT! Eg. Beef stew with fresh steamed greens for the family is so easy. I won’t have the time to do separate meals, so I’ve basically got to learn some great diet friendly low protein meals that I can geed the family a few nights a week on rotation. We aren’t trying until April next year, but I want to start the meal ideas now otherwise I’ll continue to be the boy friendly personality and over plan everything. If I get a few meals in my ideas bank on rotation I won’t even think about the diet at dinner and planning for the busy week.
So far, two meals I’ve enjoyed were a tofu saag curry in the slow cooker and also cauliflower parmigiana. Delicious!
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