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August 30th, 2015, 04:54 AM
Pbn3

Fx and best of luck and pink baby dust to you essence!! I pray that this August will deliver you another sticky bfp!!
August 30th, 2015, 05:10 AM
essnce629

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Originally Posted by ImmiNAddi

Hi Gals, just wondering if anyone might know.... I am about 17 days past a D & C and last night figured it wouldn't hurt to have a BD 'for fun' (fancy that!) knowing that I should be fine as I was still getting a faint faint line on a hpt... But then today I have had a tonne of ewcm and O pains (I always get those around ovulation time) and I looked at my FF chart (which I have only been doing for the last 3 days) and it has possible ovulation for the next 3 days - so it made me google 'can you get pregnant with low levels of HCg in your system' - and to my shock, a lot of people were saying Yes!
Does anyone know much about this? ie - been through a miscarriage and know when they next ovulated etc?

I also tested on an OPK and it wasn't positive, but there was a darker line there than on the hpt..... interesting.....

I had a natural miscarriage, not a D&C, but this was my experience:

I had red bleeding through CD7, then spotting till CD10. I started taking opks on CD10 like I normally do since I tend to O on CD15. On CD14 and CD15 I had +opks like I normally do (they were negative from CD10-13) but no temp rise and I think my cheapie hpts were still super super faintly bfp. I then had negative opks from CD16-18 before they again turned positive on CD19-22. I ended up O'ing on CD 21, confirmed with a temp rise, so basically a week later than normal and I know my hpts were finally bfn at that point. My LP that cycle was normal too at 14 days long, but my best friend who had a m/c 3 months before me and a D&C ended up only having a 5 day LP and basically bleed and spotted the entire cycle post D&C.
August 30th, 2015, 06:27 AM
XXforhubby

Oh essnce, it's good to hear from you! I'm hoping and Xing everything I have that one healthy (hopefully X sperm) got through!! I'll be checking in more often now!!

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August 30th, 2015, 07:19 AM
netti02

Hi All

Will be cd 6 tmoro and that disgusting AF is leaving the building she was brutal this month.

Bring on the BDing

Best of luck to all

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
August 30th, 2015, 10:08 AM
momamia4

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Originally Posted by essnce629

momamia-- I'm so sorry you are going through this. How many weeks are you? When I started bleeding at 6 weeks I had an u/s and they could see the sac but "no normal fetal pole" was detected. I did read that the fetal pole is not always seen on u/s till 6.5 weeks and that is by transvaginal u/s only. Are you less than 6.5 weeks? Did they do a transvaginal u/s in the ER? I'm still crossing my fingers for a miracle for you. I'm glad you are getting hcg tested and another u/s on Monday. What were your latest hcg numbers? Mine were 6000 at 6.5 weeks when I started bleeding and just over 2000 two days later when my miscarriage was for confirmed for sure.

I am 6w2d I think. They did do a transvaginal u/s in the ER. My hcg at that point was only 513. It is extremely low. Yours was much higher than mine. Thanks for thinking of me! :)

Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
August 30th, 2015, 12:50 PM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by Pbn3

Twointow you may be able to relate to this maybe and not sure about all you other mumma's!! I've found myself researching vbac2s and I don't even know why! My husband will never support this and he's made that clear. After emergency cs with ds1 I wanted to try for vbac for ds2 but allowed myself to be pressured into scheduled c-section (was thrown the whole think of your baby not your ego and it wasn't that anyway) and then I got shifted back due to a failed vbac so you can only imagine the comments I got then.... I actually shed a few tears today knowing that even if I'm lucky enough to get a bfp I'm not going to experience natural child birth and it just doesn't sit right with me. My mum gave birth to 4 kids, my sisters 5 between them why can't I????? I loved my ob for ds2 (went private) but she made it clear if I ever went back for dc3 it would be cs - no negotiation. We live in a relatively small city/large town so its not like I've got many options :(

I can completely relate. It's sad to know I'll never get that experience with a live child (VBAC'd my 20w5d stillborn). And I have had a good cry or two about that but honestly, I have done enough research to know that, while completely possible, the risks grow with each c/s. While risks are still small after 2 c/s, I seem to be the queen of hearing "it's unlikely" only for the "unlikely" thing to happen. So, as sad as it is to know I'll never experience that I have decided to focus on the positives of c/s :) You get to pick babies b-day, to a point anyway. No chance of you going overdue. Minimal, if any, false alarm trips to OB. AND since you just lay there and let the doc do all the work you have plenty of energy to spend doting on baby instead of being wore out from labor. It'll always be sad that we won't get that experience that, but how we look at the c/s could mean the difference between a pleasant memory or a bitter one. :hug2: You could always ask your doc if the curtain could be lowered for a moment when baby is pulled out. I did with my youngest. It's not exactly the same but it was nice to actually see him the moment he came out. :) Going to ask for the same next time!

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August 30th, 2015, 12:53 PM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by essnce629

Yaybaby-- I'm so sorry for your loss. Miscarriages suck big time. Sending you lots of healing vibes.

momamia-- I'm so sorry you are going through this. How many weeks are you? When I started bleeding at 6 weeks I had an u/s and they could see the sac but "no normal fetal pole" was detected. I did read that the fetal pole is not always seen on u/s till 6.5 weeks and that is by transvaginal u/s only. Are you less than 6.5 weeks? Did they do a transvaginal u/s in the ER? I'm still crossing my fingers for a miracle for you. I'm glad you are getting hcg tested and another u/s on Monday. What were your latest hcg numbers? Mine were 6000 at 6.5 weeks when I started bleeding and just over 2000 two days later when my miscarriage was for confirmed for sure.

Back story on me:
I'm jumping over here from the Aug 2ww thread even though I've pretty much been a lurker since my miscarriage in Oct 2014. DH doesn't want any more kids (we have 2 boys ages 12 and 6) and baby #3 was planned by me only (swayed for 7 months) and then ended in a m/c just shy of 7 weeks. I told him I was not going back on the pill so he's been doing pull out and sometimes even using condoms since my m/c. He even went for a vasectomy consultation, but luckily didn't go through with it yet! Both boys were oopsies after living a very boy friendly lifestyle, so I've continued to slightly sway since my m/c even though my chance of getting pregnant at 34 years old with the pull out method is pretty slim. I'm now 2dpo and DH just informed me yesterday that he doesn't think he pulled out fully 4 days ago, which would have been 2 days before O. So here I am in the 2ww hoping with all my might that 1 little sperm found it's way! I've been on the boards since November 2013 and have been swaying in some form or another since February 2014. Fingers crossed!

Oh, and DS2 was conceived during my August 2008 cycle and my last pregnancy was conceived during my August 2014 cycle, so I'm hoping August is the time of year my body likes to get pregnant and that August 2015 is lucky too!

Welcome! GL and :fingers:

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August 30th, 2015, 12:56 PM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by netti02

Hi All

Will be cd 6 tmoro and that disgusting AF is leaving the building she was brutal this month.

Bring on the BDing

Best of luck to all

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

GL! :fingers: Glad AF is almost over for you! I am only CD 4 and still have a few days... booooo!

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August 30th, 2015, 05:14 PM
mommymachine

So hopeful for you Essence!
August 30th, 2015, 05:33 PM
Quinn31

Hi ladies. I'm not in the 2ww yet so I feel bad being here but I have a question you might be able to answer. I want to take my opks twice a day but have a REALLY hard time not consuming liquids. I honestly drink all day and feel miserable when I have to withhold liquids for hours. Is it really bad to test first thing? I know someone said they tested in the morning (Two maybe?) but I've read the hormone is really concentrated first thing so that's why. Does anyone have tips on how to get two rounds of tests in while still being able to drink?

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August 30th, 2015, 05:37 PM
mommymachine

That is something I struggle with too Quinn. I usually try to just have my cup of tea in the morning and then use second morning urine to test for my first opk of the day. That is usually around 10am-12pm. That is my most accurate test. When I test a second time it is around 4-5pm, but I never trust the accuracy as much because of how diluted my urine is. So I am in the same boat.
August 30th, 2015, 05:50 PM
Quinn31

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Originally Posted by mommymachine

That is something I struggle with too Quinn. I usually try to just have my cup of tea in the morning and then use second morning urine to test for my first opk of the day. That is usually around 10am-12pm. That is my most accurate test. When I test a second time it is around 4-5pm, but I never trust the accuracy as much because of how diluted my urine is. So I am in the same boat.

Glad I'm not the only one! I guess I'll just do my best to not drink a lot in the morning and then test at 10. I wake up sooo thirst though, that's going to be hard! Maybe I'll have a glass of water and some of my coffee. I can save the rest as my reward for being good in the morning.

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August 30th, 2015, 06:02 PM
mammacass

Hi ladies not much happening with me, on CD 19 and still waiting to O. Curious if anyone here is using Acigel?

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August 30th, 2015, 06:54 PM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by Quinn31

Hi ladies. I'm not in the 2ww yet so I feel bad being here but I have a question you might be able to answer. I want to take my opks twice a day but have a REALLY hard time not consuming liquids. I honestly drink all day and feel miserable when I have to withhold liquids for hours. Is it really bad to test first thing? I know someone said they tested in the morning (Two maybe?) but I've read the hormone is really concentrated first thing so that's why. Does anyone have tips on how to get two rounds of tests in while still being able to drink?
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Honestly, the thread should be labeled something like September TTC, or something like that instead of Sept 2WW. MOST of us go ahead and move over to the next 2WW thread once AF arrives, so there are several of us still waiting to O.

On to your question, I DON'T hold back on liquids.. at ALL for OPKs. I have had no issues still pinpointing O despite it. I am like you and my bladder just won't let me do a hold, and I am quite thirsty most of the time so I just do my thing and test when I test. Now, if I KNOW I just guzzled a bunch all at once I'll wait awhile to test, but for the usual, everyday all day norm I just test when I pee at some point in the evening and don't really think much about how much I've had to drink. As I said, I've never had issues getting a +OPK, so I don't think it matters as much with OPKs as it does with HPTs.
August 30th, 2015, 07:06 PM
twointow83

I had to get a steroid shot today :( I have bronchitis. Boooo! So, does anyone know if steroids have any effect on clomid, good or bad? I tried to look it up and all I found out was that apparently men take clomid as an anabolic steroid substitute or something... Weird. So does anyone happen to know?? On the plus side, being sick sways pink. On the neg side, I don't want to end up in the hosp or something so I kinda can't wait till O to nip this in the bud lol.
August 30th, 2015, 07:18 PM
mammacass

Sorry to hear your sick two, I have no idea if steroids affect clomid though. The thought that being sick sways pink is the only thing helping me the last couple of wks being sick ha ha although I was when I conceived DS3 too so who knows :)

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August 30th, 2015, 07:25 PM
atomic sagebrush

because clomid blocks estrogen and can raise testosterone, men take it daily instead of just a few days the way women do. this enables men who make too much estrogen and build fat too easily, to stop that process and build muscle instead. :agree:

the steroids you are given when ill do not act like "steroid" steroids and should not (to the best of my knowledge) interfere wiht Clomid.
August 30th, 2015, 07:58 PM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by mammacass

Sorry to hear your sick two, I have no idea if steroids affect clomid though. The thought that being sick sways pink is the only thing helping me the last couple of wks being sick ha ha although I was when I conceived DS3 too so who knows :)
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Yeah I was sick when I conceived DS#2 AND #3... but I took mucinex to feel better and mucinex sways blue... add that to PCOS (boy friendly hormones) and a boy diet and being sick was a moot point lol.
August 30th, 2015, 08:03 PM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

because clomid blocks estrogen and can raise testosterone, men take it daily instead of just a few days the way women do. this enables men who make too much estrogen and build fat too easily, to stop that process and build muscle instead. :agree:

the steroids you are given when ill do not act like "steroid" steroids and should not (to the best of my knowledge) interfere wiht Clomid.

Oh, I guess you can ignore my PM lol. I know you can't always get around to the support threads so I PM'd you in case nobody on here knew :) I also have a script for a z-pack but I don't know if I am going to take it. I hate antibiotics. They give me a narky yeast infection every stinking time. Gonna give it a couple days and see if the steroid is enough to help my body fight it off and maybe avoid the antibiotic. I have read that those don't sway either way, so I'm not worried about that. Thanks for responding Atomic! :HH:
August 30th, 2015, 08:20 PM
Pbn3

Hope your feeling better soon two!
August 30th, 2015, 08:29 PM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by Pbn3

Hope your feeling better soon two!

Actually yeah! For the first time in about a week my throat doesn't hurt and my ears feel better too. :D

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August 30th, 2015, 08:32 PM
daisy4

Just wanted to say fx ladies hope this is your month [emoji1] [emoji178]
August 30th, 2015, 09:10 PM
Hitmebabyonemoretime

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Originally Posted by momamia4

Yes, I did go into the ER because I started having horrible cramping. They got me right in (which was a miracle because they had a 6 hour wait!!!). They did blood work and my levels didn't go up much: 513 from 303 on Tuesday. They did 2 ultrasounds and found the gestational sac in my uterus but it is abnormally shaped and empty. I am going in for a d&c on Tuesday. I don't see the need to continue with the pregnancy when my levels are so low and there is no fetal pole. They didn't feel it was likely that I'd have another sac in one of my tubes. I also discovered that I have a giant cyst on my left ovary that I'll need to have drained because it is so big that it poses a risk for my ovary to twist from the weight (it's 4.3cm).

I'm really just glad to be able to move forward and not have to worry anymore. Because of my history of miscarriage, they are going to do genetic testing on the tissue to see if they can figure out a cause for the abnormal pregnancy. Right now I'm waiting to hear back from my RE's office. I had to call and update them. I'm not sure if I'm going to have to go in there today or what. Thank you everyone for the positive thoughts. It was a rough night.

Praying for a sticky [emoji166] bean!

Ah mama im sorry :(

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August 31st, 2015, 03:47 AM
Pbn3

Quick question ladies I had a lighter and four day af this cycle and continued spotting for another four days and now today my cm is tinged with old blood (normally its 5 days followed by a couple days spotting) just wondering if anyone's experienced similar? I'm also wondering if it will affect my chances of conceiving if I continue to see old blood? I've never had this last to cd9 before so I'm not sure what it means. I got my first flashing smiley this morning so I can only assume I'm gearing up to o in a few days but just wondering what the old blood could mean by still appearing still at cd9?
August 31st, 2015, 04:52 AM
twointow83

I've had spotting and such at CD 9 before but I don't recall if I was TTC any of those cycles so I am not sure. I wouldn't think old blood would affect O or sperm but I honestly don't know. Let me wake up a bit more and get kiddos off to school and if I have time after I get ready and before class I'll see what I can find out.

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August 31st, 2015, 04:54 AM
Pbn3

Thanks two it's ok I'll try dr google before bed lol sounds like you've got your hands full :)
August 31st, 2015, 05:05 AM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by Pbn3

Thanks two it's ok I'll try dr google before bed lol sounds like you've got your hands full :)

Lol. Yeah. Monday & Wednesday mornings suck with my school schedule.

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August 31st, 2015, 06:31 AM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by Pbn3

Thanks two it's ok I'll try dr google before bed lol sounds like you've got your hands full :)

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/tryi...ge-cd-9-a.html
August 31st, 2015, 06:35 AM
Pbn3

Thank you :)
August 31st, 2015, 06:39 AM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by Pbn3

Thank you :)

You are welcome. It's all I've found so far...
August 31st, 2015, 06:47 AM
Pbn3

I'm not too worried just curious. I'm really not sweating on my cycle, temps or anything this time. Just shrugging and saying 'whatever' lol! As long as I get a decent attempt in I'll be happy :)
August 31st, 2015, 06:55 AM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by Pbn3

I'm not too worried just curious. I'm really not sweating on my cycle, temps or anything this time. Just shrugging and saying 'whatever' lol! As long as I get a decent attempt in I'll be happy :)

TBH, I am sweating this cycle for all previously mentioned reasons (DH, May, clock ticking on clomid, etc.). Plus my IB has been acting up a lot since my last 2WW and if it keeps up I'll have to go back on vits or risk becoming deficient. In fact a vit D deficiency can cause symptoms so I am already a bit worried :( But I am hoping once school actually gets up and running (today is just the first day of week 2 so last week not much went on) that it will be a good distraction.
August 31st, 2015, 07:13 AM
Pbn3

I hope so two and I hope you get your bfp! fx your IB will hold off needing vitamins just that little bit longer!! Based on this are you doing e4d plus additional at pos opk or sticking with one attempt?
August 31st, 2015, 07:23 AM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by Pbn3

I hope so two and I hope you get your bfp! fx your IB will hold off needing vitamins just that little bit longer!! Based on this are you doing e4d plus additional at pos opk or sticking with one attempt?

DH is pushing for more attempts(even more than we actually plan to do lol) so we agreed to E4D + 1 attempt @ +OPK. Given the clock I feel I am under, esp now that my IB is acting up (generally I have a couple months before deficiencies become an issue but I'm not willing to play with the potential of deficiencies while TTC) I think it might be smart after all to increase our odds/attempts. Hoping that does it though because the only other card I have to play with DH is E3D +1 @ +OPK... IF I am lucky. I think he thinks this is going to be our last cycle holding back on BD'ing :oops:

ETA I am also considering switch to Femara (or at least asking about it) to try to lighten my load worrying about time.
August 31st, 2015, 07:39 AM
twointow83

You know what... Atomic suggested awhile back that I do my vits E3D... and I did for a bit. Then I got stubborn and didn't want to blow my sway... I think it may be time to revisit that suggestion. Sure beats worrying about deficiencies.

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August 31st, 2015, 11:15 AM
Quinn31

Hey ladies does this look positive for an opk? Sorry if it's blurry. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...95ab161ae8.jpg

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August 31st, 2015, 11:36 AM
momamia4

Can I just say that it is really unfair that I can feel so pregnant and be so nauseous but still have such low levels of hcg? Sorry for my rant... :(
August 31st, 2015, 11:56 AM
twointow83

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Hey ladies does this look positive for an opk? Sorry if it's blurry. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...95ab161ae8.jpg

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Very very close to pos!

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August 31st, 2015, 11:58 AM
twointow83

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Originally Posted by momamia4

Can I just say that it is really unfair that I can feel so pregnant and be so nauseous but still have such low levels of hcg? Sorry for my rant... :(

That would be that preg limbo I mentioned before :( It's mental and emotional torture. Hugs!!

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August 31st, 2015, 12:01 PM
Quinn31

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Very very close to pos!

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Thanks! Do you think I need to test again or can I just assume it will be positive this evening and start dtd? I'm doing the SMEP plan so I would dtd for the next three days.

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