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Cosmos - -that is so scary to have a fall. Glad baby is moving around normal. Praying all is good at your appt tomorrow!

Erin - what a cute baby! I am no help because I was thinking rounder head was a girl, and more squared was a boy, but I have seen so much go either way. Glad baby is doing good!

AFM - I am having some rough days thinking about boy #5. Not that it is boy #5, but that I will never get my girl. But yesterday was such a crazy day with the boys being excited about the fireworks all day. But it was so cute seeing DS2 and DS4 napping in the same bed in the afternoon. (I made them all lay down since it would be a late night). Then, when I was downstairs putting together our new grill, DS3 and DS4 got into our gated laundry room and tossed 5 lbs of baking soda all around and on each other. It was a HUGE mess to clean that thankfully my MIL did the most, but it was also funny to see them together and DS3 was laughing so much. Oh my, BOYS! It helps to see them play together even if it is getting in trouble.
So here I am bouncing back and forth about this new baby and gender issues. I pray that once this baby is born, I will get over my GD and am able to live my life complete with my family!

Shann I hear you ... when I found out I'm expecting ds4 initially I was ok, but as time goes on I'm finding it hard to cope and my anxiety levels are increasing as i get bigger. Just want the baby out now and I'm not enjoying the pregnancy one bit. I don't want to talk to anyone about the baby or when I'm due or how I'm feeling, I just wish I wasn't pregnant. I feel so bad for the little baby who doesn't deserve this and I wish I could get excited but it's just not in me ... wish I never started this stupid journey and I could go back to having 3 boys and get on with my life!!!!!

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Shann I hear you ... when I found out I'm expecting ds4 initially I was ok, but as time goes on I'm finding it hard to cope and my anxiety levels are increasing as i get bigger. Just want the baby out now and I'm not enjoying the pregnancy one bit. I don't want to talk to anyone about the baby or when I'm due or how I'm feeling, I just wish I wasn't pregnant. I feel so bad for the little baby who doesn't deserve this and I wish I could get excited but it's just not in me ... wish I never started this stupid journey and I could go back to having 3 boys and get on with my life!!!!!

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(((HUGE HUGS))) Amelia!! I'm so sorry you are going through this. I do hope that once that little guy gets here that he holds a special place in your heart. I'm expecting DS3 but after my bout of GD I'm excited now. I can't wait to hold him! I just can't stand the comments I'm getting like tell DH to put in some work and you'll get your girl. How crazy is that?! People seem to be under the impression that if the women takes charge in the bedroom that a boy will be conceived and if the man does then a girl will be conceived. I don't put any stock in that because I feel like with me and DH it's a joint effort lol!!


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Shann I hear you ... when I found out I'm expecting ds4 initially I was ok, but as time goes on I'm finding it hard to cope and my anxiety levels are increasing as i get bigger. Just want the baby out now and I'm not enjoying the pregnancy one bit. I don't want to talk to anyone about the baby or when I'm due or how I'm feeling, I just wish I wasn't pregnant. I feel so bad for the little baby who doesn't deserve this and I wish I could get excited but it's just not in me ... wish I never started this stupid journey and I could go back to having 3 boys and get on with my life!!!!!

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This is exactly how I felt last pregnancy! /: hoping the rest of the pregnancy is speedy for you!


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Shann I hear you ... when I found out I'm expecting ds4 initially I was ok, but as time goes on I'm finding it hard to cope and my anxiety levels are increasing as i get bigger. Just want the baby out now and I'm not enjoying the pregnancy one bit. I don't want to talk to anyone about the baby or when I'm due or how I'm feeling, I just wish I wasn't pregnant. I feel so bad for the little baby who doesn't deserve this and I wish I could get excited but it's just not in me ... wish I never started this stupid journey and I could go back to having 3 boys and get on with my life!!!!!

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I'm so sorry you're feeling this way! I hope that once he's here it all becomes easier for you! Know we are all here for you!


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Does anyone know can I take anything for anxiety? It starts from the min I wake up until I go to bed, on and off all day! I think I really need some help, these feelings aren't normal. Or does anyone know of any herbal/essential oils I can take to calm an ovrthinking mind.

My sil just had a beautiful little girl and my friend is due her 2nd girl next week, I can't cope with all of this and the pink everywhere in my sils house! The only time I feel ok or normal is when I visualise this pregnancy ending or something bad happening. I know this isn't normal and feel desperate at the moment.

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Does anyone know can I take anything for anxiety? It starts from the min I wake up until I go to bed, on and off all day! I think I really need some help, these feelings aren't normal. Or does anyone know of any herbal/essential oils I can take to calm an ovrthinking mind.

My sil just had a beautiful little girl and my friend is due her 2nd girl next week, I can't cope with all of this and the pink everywhere in my sils house! The only time I feel ok or normal is when I visualise this pregnancy ending or something bad happening. I know this isn't normal and feel desperate at the moment.

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Yes, there are some meds that are safe for you to take while pg! PLEASE go and talk to your Dr!!!! I hope that you start to feel better real soon and you start to enjoy your pregnancy. I know for me, part of the not enjoying it, is the heat. We are in the 100s and it is making me so sick I can't eat. It is very draining. The move is also taking quite a toll on my body. ((HUGS))
I also understand the feelings and the heartache. My SIL is having a girl (her 2nd) in Sept and it just rubs me wrong how she got her pp without even trying. I have even visualized something happening and I know how upset I would be. So I know I love this little one no matter what. I am praying that with meds and maybe even some counseling, you can feel better and know this little one is meant to be part of your family.
When I lost the girls last pg, I was a total mess. The fact that I was still pg with boy #4 and lost our girls was devastating. I did not even want to be pg anymore. I had a really rough time for quite a few months. I can tell you now, as he is almost 2, he is am absolute joy and is perfect for our family! I know lots of people here comment the same, but he truely is a special soul.
I know that this boy #4 will be a blessing for you and your family. You just don't know how until you meet him. HUGS

Any recommendations on how/when to take iron pills?

I passed my GD test but failed hemoglobin. So I'm on a slow release iron pill again like my last pregnancy /: but I HATED taking them and they made me so sick. I also can't take prenatal gummies anymore. I have to take the pills cuz I guess they have more in them??

I hate taking both. But I don't wanna be anemic


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Any recommendations on how/when to take iron pills?

I passed my GD test but failed hemoglobin. So I'm on a slow release iron pill again like my last pregnancy /: but I HATED taking them and they made me so sick. I also can't take prenatal gummies anymore. I have to take the pills cuz I guess they have more in them??

I hate taking both. But I don't wanna be anemic


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heme iron absorbs very well without side effects or constipation. Its what I take :)

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Does anyone know can I take anything for anxiety? It starts from the min I wake up until I go to bed, on and off all day! I think I really need some help, these feelings aren't normal. Or does anyone know of any herbal/essential oils I can take to calm an ovrthinking mind.

My sil just had a beautiful little girl and my friend is due her 2nd girl next week, I can't cope with all of this and the pink everywhere in my sils house! The only time I feel ok or normal is when I visualise this pregnancy ending or something bad happening. I know this isn't normal and feel desperate at the moment.

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magnesium is very very good for anxiety. sorry you are feeling this way <3

good morning ladies :)

So the appt went great yesterday. I got the green light for a VBAC and I'm measuring right at 24 weeks. Baby had a strong heartbeat at 140. Praise God! I'm typing one handed, so gotta keep it short lol. Hope everyone is doing well!!

Yay Cosmosis! I'm so glad they are supportive of a VBAC for you! I'm so happy your baby is doing well [emoji4]!


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Awww 21 weeks and my belly has popped out... im feeling so exhausted again though to the point where the thought of walking upstairs scares me... my belly just feels so heavy..im not looking forward to the rest of the weeks..anyone else like this x

^^^Yes!!! I'm SO tired all of the time!! I find napping a bit during the day doesn't help me, because napping makes it harder for me to fall asleep at night.

I feel like I'm HUGE despite only gaining 14-16lbs! I still exercise but for only 30-40min a day, otherwise it just zaps what energy I have left!


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Hi all! I had to take a break for awhile as my GD has been quite bad. Im 21weeks now & still havent told anyone about the pregnancy yet other than hubby & our parents. Thankfully it has been a cold winter & it has been easy to hide so far. I did tell my best friend that we were expecting another DS & even she didnt believe me! She was in absolute shock that I got 3/3 boys. I dread telling anyone because of the constant comments that this will be a girl & do I want a girl. Both my mother & MIL are both adament that it is a girl & it is just so hurtful. I cant enjoy this pregnancy at all &I feel so ripped off that it is another DS. I keep focussing on our loss last year & that it was probably my DD. All I keep doing now is researching HT & focusing on another pregnancy & hubby wont listen. He isnt being supportive at all & just laughed when I told him it was another DS. I was so angry at him. He said we could always get a female dog & I slammed the door in his face. He just doesnt get it. He wants to tell everyone that I am pregnant & I just cant. We havent even told our boys yet. I have always loved being pregnant & I want this baby more than anything after our miscarriage last year but I am really struggling. I love both of my DS & I am sure I will love this baby too but I just cant get past needing a DD in my life. I am seeing a counsellor but I dont feel like I can talk about the GD as it is such a taboo topic. She knows that I am struggling mentally with thie pregnancy & even my OB dismissed me when I said I was struggling. What do I do? It was hard enough saying that I was mentally struggling without being completely dismissed. I dont think I am depressed but I am just so stuck.

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^^^Yes!!! I'm SO tired all of the time!! I find napping a bit during the day doesn't help me, because napping makes it harder for me to fall asleep at night.

I feel like I'm HUGE despite only gaining 14-16lbs! I still exercise but for only 30-40min a day, otherwise it just zaps what energy I have left!


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Fair play to you exercising..ive gained 22lb already arghhh..i know what you mean by sleeping. now ive got my littleone to sleep all night in his room i cant sleep and im so tired but i just lay there..i just want to get to 30 weeks then hopefully it will go quick..i also find 20 to 30 weeks is so slow x

KC, I know I'm not a part of this DDG but I saw your post about struggling with GD and felt the need to comment. I found out I was having DS3 last year after a long pink sway and losses. I felt much like you described and struggled with it A LOT. I even felt depressed at times. If you ever need someone to talk to, feel free to PM me. :) Hang in there. Hopefully counselling will help.

kc - HUGS. I know the struggle all too well. I know the subject is so very taboo, but you NEED to open up to your counselor about the GD. It will help to just get it out! It really will and that is what they are there for. After DH and I talked about my struggles and feelings about it all, it really helped. I am just so heartbroken to hear that you are struggling so bad. I just wish we could all be in a room together to get out a good cry and to hug each other! Thank you for coming on here and telling us how you feel.
You are not alone at all. And I have often thought about the babies we have lost and figured they were our girls. I even am pretty sure that the early stages of this pregnancy, when I had all the bleeding and cramping, I was miscarrying a twin for this one. And I often think that it was our girl. I know I shouldn't because it is just torturing myself, but I do. So I am just going to say that every thought you have had - I would guarantee that someone else on this site has thought and maybe even voiced the same things. HUGS

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^^^Yes!!! I'm SO tired all of the time!! I find napping a bit during the day doesn't help me, because napping makes it harder for me to fall asleep at night.

I feel like I'm HUGE despite only gaining 14-16lbs! I still exercise but for only 30-40min a day, otherwise it just zaps what energy I have left!


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OMG XX ! I was going through my emails and saw a notification with something you commented on and i saw your ticker!! 1million Hugs and Congratulations to you! So happy that you are finally getting your baby girl. Sorry for ease dropping and congrats to everyone on this thread :) I have a new phone and had to install the app again just to comment [emoji1] [emoji7] [emoji8]

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Any recommendations on how/when to take iron pills?

I passed my GD test but failed hemoglobin. So I'm on a slow release iron pill again like my last pregnancy /: but I HATED taking them and they made me so sick. I also can't take prenatal gummies anymore. I have to take the pills cuz I guess they have more in them??

I hate taking both. But I don't wanna be anemic


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Same here, my midwife told me to take blood builder by megafood. You can even take it on an empty stomach. So far I haven't felt any bad effects. I'm supposed to take six(!) everyday because of my levels.

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I take blood builder too! I've heard good things about it from others, we'll see if it boosts my iron at the next appointment.

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Yes!!!!!! I'm days from 21w too. Growth spurt maybe?? So exhausted... drained.

Well ladies, this pregnancy just continues to be a challenge...apparently I have been spilling protein in my urine since my 18 week appointment and then again at my 22 week appointment. She ordered a 24 hr urine collection for a baseline which I completed on Wednesday. My urine protein results are <164mg and normal is considered <150mg so I'm a bit above normal. My blood pressure is LOW! 98/64 to 113/64. Does anyone have any experience with pre-eclampsia? I've read where some ladies BPs start low and then spike. I've never had BP issues in my life nor in my past 2 pregnancies. I always run low. Thanks for any input ladies.


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Well ladies, this pregnancy just continues to be a challenge...apparently I have been spilling protein in my urine since my 18 week appointment and then again at my 22 week appointment. She ordered a 24 hr urine collection for a baseline which I completed on Wednesday. My urine protein results are <164mg and normal is considered <150mg so I'm a bit above normal. My blood pressure is LOW! 98/64 to 113/64. Does anyone have any experience with pre-eclampsia? I've read where some ladies BPs start low and then spike. I've never had BP issues in my life nor in my past 2 pregnancies. I always run low. Thanks for any input ladies.


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It's often a sign you are way too low with protein, if you're spilling it in your urine. I would pay attention to that. Not getting enough in early to mid pregnancy sets you up for preeclampsia issues at the end.

Well I know that's not the problem...I eat about 120g of protein every day. Could I be eating too much? This was my normal pre-pregnancy and I haven't changed my diet.


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if you are spilling it, then its too much. 120g is quite a bit and alot of protein taxes the kidneys. i would cut back on the protein, added oils and fats and up your starches. how is your sodium intake? try doing a 3 day food log to see whats going on with diet.

Thanks ladies. I'm kind of a fitness/dietary person. I help people lose weight for a living. It's hard for me, mentally, to eat too many carbs and starches but I guess that's what I'm going to have to try. I haven't used my fitness pal in a while and actually logged my food but I may do that too. I eat mostly fresh foods. Very little is processed and I don't add extra salt to anything so I think my sodium intake should be okay but I'll check it out.
My creatinine was ok at 1.43...I guess my kidneys are compensating for the time being.
Thanks for your input!


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Thanks ladies. I'm kind of a fitness/dietary person. I help people lose weight for a living. It's hard for me, mentally, to eat too many carbs and starches but I guess that's what I'm going to have to try. I haven't used my fitness pal in a while and actually logged my food but I may do that too. I eat mostly fresh foods. Very little is processed and I don't add extra salt to anything so I think my sodium intake should be okay but I'll check it out.
My creatinine was ok at 1.43...I guess my kidneys are compensating for the time being.
Thanks for your input!


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well, starches have gotten a bad rep, but there's tons of people who have lost lots of weight and corrected autoimmune disease by ditching excess protein and fats and replacing them with starches. from a fitness and weight perspective, my most successful clients have been those on high starch diets, my low carbers had very little success compared to my high carbers. food for thought, no pun intended haha.

I have managed to keep this pregnancy under control by doing just that. It started with food aversion and then I took it on as an experiment. No weight gain and I'm in the same clothing (minus a few shirts as most of my shirts were on the short side) at 6 months of pregnancy. No protein in urine, no GD, no BP issues. Pretty neat :) Hope it all clears up for you Roe! <3

Where is butterflies? havent seen her in a long while.

Have you ever checked out Blue Ribbon Baby diet?

I would be making some modifications if I could - perhaps it's the type of protein? Something is flagging your body to say "help".

Sorry I'm not better help.

Roedinga- I'm sorry they put you through that, but there is no huge cause for alarm with <164mg. Levels of <300mg or greater indicate pre-eclampsia. I think by modifying your diet, you should be fine. Eating a kidney friendly diet is what I would do. My BF had to do that in her pregnancy and it helped! She also had a really enlarged kidney too. I'll ask her about the diet she ate, but she limited protein to 60-80g, fat to 60-70g, and the rest from complex carbs and vegetables. Dairy products were limited too. That's about all I remember. Postpartum, here Creatine levels slowly returned to normal as did her kidneys.

Hang in there sweetie!! Keep us posted!!


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HI ladies! Sorry I have been totally MIA, I have had just too much going on with life. I hope everyone is well and everyone got their DG! I am still waiting and a delivery surprise. I feel like this pregnancy is flying by!

When is your due date Kasey? I'm glad all is well with you and baby!


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^^^Nevermind [emoji38]! I see I've already gotten it- gotta love pregnancy brain [emoji854]!!


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I can't believe I'm 28 weeks! At times, I feel like this pregnancy is flying by! I only have one more 4 week visit and then onto 2 week visits!

Cue the Braxton Hicks! I've been getting them since 20 weeks, but I'm now getting some that feel like I'm about to start AF. They are sporadic and don't last long. She has to stay in until 38 weeks 🤞🏻!!

How is everyone else doing/feeling? Thinking of you Roedinga!


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I can't believe I'm 28 weeks! At times, I feel like this pregnancy is flying by! I only have one more 4 week visit and then onto 2 week visits!

Cue the Braxton Hicks! I've been getting them since 20 weeks, but I'm now getting some that feel like I'm about to start AF. They are sporadic and don't last long. She has to stay in until 38 weeks ����!!

How is everyone else doing/feeling? Thinking of you Roedinga!


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This started for me 2 days ago. I'm getting crampy like AF is coming and I feel alot of pressure when this happens. Never had this with DD so it worries me of course.

I'm worried my shoulder won't heal in time for baby's arrival and it will be a huge issue. I've noticed improvement just in one week, but my range of motion is seriously limited. I am getting another shoulder brace specific for a rotator cuff injury and I'm hoping that helps healing.

This baby really kicks HARD. Not complaining, glad he/she is healthy and bouncing in there, but sheesh lol.

I hope a new brace does the trick for you, Cosmosis! Hehe, my boys kicked much harder than my DD! I'm hoping this means you have a boy in there 🤞🏻[emoji170]!


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Hello everyone, it's been quite a while since I posted.
Robin, I just want to express my deepest condolences on what must be the most devastating time for you and your husband. I'm so sorry you've gone through something so awful and I hope you are doing ok. That's great that you and your hubby are on the same page regarding IVF. I hope all works out for you both in the very near future :)

I am almost 32 weeks now. This has been a really uncomfortable pregnancy, my back is constantly sore plus I now have sciatica pain. I'm also constantly tired... I guess running after two boys makes it hard to rest. Because of my last c section being complicated and an extra uterine incision being made, I'll need to have this c section no later than 38 weeks which means I have 6 weeks to go (max). Really hoping it flies by. Like lots of you, I have been getting strong braxton hicks for a long time now. I feel so much pressure and also feel like AF is coming!
XX - I also am finding this baby girl to be not as active as the boys. The boys kicked so hard and all the time and this one just wriggles around and does the occasional little kick! Interesting hey?
I hope everyone is doing well! Looks like I'll be the first one to have the baby as I think I'm the furthest along?

I am having some reflux and anemia but for the most part feel pretty good. I am on my feet so much that I feel like I don't have time to think about the aches and pains lol

This pregnancy is dragging for me! lol! I can't get my gd under control which makes me afraid to eat anything, insulin is increased weekly but doesnt seem to be making a big difference. Its definitely made me hate pregnancy so much that I've decided Im done after this baby lol i just cant do it again.