Okay, no wonder this is so hard...when the heck is o plus 12???lol!
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Okay, no wonder this is so hard...when the heck is o plus 12???lol!
lemon-I also used CBFM for years and we can get a +opk before the peak window for sure. I always get a + before O and I just O later so maybe you did not O yet? (but of course I don't know how is it for you)
Anyway for ttc girl because you are close to O I would not dtd again.
Don't know what you did this post is maybe to late lol
I may did a damn O+12 and I ttc boy ggggggrrrrrrr but I hope if I get a bfp that it was just right on O lol
Ugh, it is so awful, isn't it? I had maybe 2 big ones like that also, and both went down the toilet hole too fast for me to see them, but I had that kinda "good" feeling like after you deliver a baby and placenta, kwim? I knew they were likely baseball-sized also. I didn't know what to expect either, and for 2 nights, mostly just in the middle of the night (and all night one of them), I was like writhing in pain with contractions. It was awful. I am so so sorry you had to experience this also. But I'm holding out hope that all of us who had to go through the horrible experience of loss will be compensated with a beautiful and healthy pregnancy very soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
Lemon, I think you are doing great....just try not to stress too much since it raises your testosterone. Try not to "control" everything, kwim? I agree with the other ladies, you gotta just give it your best shot and if you feel uncomfortable with any of it, leave that out. A break is always a good thing if you feel you are getting too stressed about it, though!
Yeah - it was pretty traumatic and painful and I wouldn't wish it on anyone (and sorry you had to go through it too). I'm just thankful I was able to do the whole thing at home, as scary as it was - I would have hated to be in a sterile hospital environment where they really couldn't have done anything for me anyway. I just wish my mw had given me a little warning about what the m/c would be like - I had talked to her earlier in the day when my bleeding started getting heavier, so she suspected the m/c was coming soon. I didn't realise you have contractions and lots of pain during the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by LolaInLove
I was going to say the same thing - try to relax. You'll feel a lot better once you know O has passed and you can't keep changing your mind anymore about your sway. There are no guarantees anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by LolaInLove
Oh mocha and lola, Your mc sound horrible. Mocha, I am surprised your mw did not give you more info or a call to help you out.
Yes, the month is over now and I am so sad.
I get so caught up in hysterics and I am becoming over the top obsessed with timing and diet and food I can and cannot eat. It is pathetic...I am 37 and just want another baby. I am scared of losing my dream that is all. I never thought I woud only have boys and I never thought I would be this old and still not pregnant!
Our chances are so slim that I might as well eat salt.
Mocha, how much represh were you using when you thought it would not get you pregnant?
I am worried our one and only solid bd is useless. Yesterday was pure dumb paranoia and this am was o plus 18...I think so useless and shallow. I think the sperm have to be up there for sure!
So, now I am already plotting next month.
I have to just get pregnant or I really will not be able to function...it is hard enough as it is now.
So, how do I sway but still get pregnant???
Thanks for listening...you already have a lot of emotional stress.
Flava...I guess we both dtd at the same time trying for different genders! I dtd o -20 but not a lot of sperm in there. You?
Oh, the cbfm I think was off bc of the vitex I took. I think it made me o early and screw up my hormones. I think it did not catch the estrogen and lh at different times. The lh was certainly there.
Anyone else found vitex did that?
lemon - lots of women get pregnant on rehpresh, and it's entirely possible it wasn't that that was preventing me from getting pregnant...all I know is that as soon as I dropped it, that's when I got my BFP (after 4 months trying). In the beginning I was using a whole tube of rephresh every 3 days, but by the month before I dropped it I was down to 1/4-1/2 a tube every 3 days. I think this time I'll use just a fingerful every few days, especially if I get dh to do a compressed frequent release again. If we don't do fr at all, I might use 1/2 a tube every 3 days. The thing is, I may not have much warning when O appears since my cycle will obviously be abnormal this month, so I kind of have to play it by ear.
Oh, and Vitex definitely made my O unpredictable. One month it would come 2 days early, then the next month it would come 2 days late.
So, lemon, did you just end up doing the one shot then o+12 ish??
Will you do vitex again or leave it out? I am 37 and will be closer to 38 once I start ttc again. Just waiting to get AF back and then I will see what my cycles are like. They do tend to be a bit crazy so maybe wondering if it was actually the vitex which mucked up my ovulation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
I was using a product called womens balance in the fusion range & that was fantastic, anyway so i thought i'd give vitex a go & omg everything started going crazy i was getting spotting between periods, so for me vitex was terrible.
jude17 - I've already started taking Vitex again. I'm hoping it will help bring my normal cycles back more quickly after my m/c. Having your cycles be a little unpredictable and different than usual might be a good thing for TTC a girl.
I would totally try Vitex (even swaying blue) IF AND ONLY IF my cycles were long or irregular....over the past year and a half of being on swaying boards, I've seen oodles of women have issues when they take it with a normal cycle. Just my 2 cents, though.
I have normal cycles and just started taking vitex. I haven't noticed a change in my cycle. I heard if swaying pink the change in your cycle may be exactly what you want! Zanacal had a good perspective on this. If she sees this chime in....
I regularly Oed, but my cycles were on the long side. Vitex totally tightened up my cycle and now I O on CD13 or 14 usually.
it's also one of those supplements that can take months to show results.
Hi everyone,
Good and contradictory things about vitex. It seems to change or for some people and not others.
So, I am so sorry to say this but I have second guessed my ovualation. I really think I actually did not ovulate. I know I wrote an earlier post that the cbfm did not peak but the OPKS did...well, I think maybe it was an early LH surge and I still have yet to peak. I am totally embarassed!
So, now I am also perplexed again!!!
Does anyone believe in timing? I just cannot unwrap my head despite all the scientific journals stating timing is not an issue and all the shettles opposites!
Every ovulation calendar gives you the choice of choosing your gender with a cutoff...it really is confusing.
So, what we THOUGHT we did was 0-24 second batch from DH dtd, o-6 but really...that was shallow and dumb!, and 0 plus 20 and we really thought that it was too late. I also douched before so I think that was dumb. It was a rephresh douche so I think it was still viable for sperm.
Unlike many of you with perspective, I seem to have lost all of mine.
I am calmer right now assuming there is still sperm in there and then we can just wait and see! However, if I really have not ovulated.....I feel the need to dtd again.
My OPK this am was starting to turn positive but was taking a long time. It is the second batch of positive OPKS.
I am wondering if a week of vitex has this effect?
Should I keep going w bding?
My lunar o is tomorrow...GIRL!
My Jonas o is SUn.MOn morning...GIRL!
I really want to get pregnant so I can stop this compulsive and obsessive roller coaster...it is clearly evident. My posts are everywhere and I think I am addicted to these sites. Actually, I know I am!
I guess time will tell if I ovulated.
Should I keep dtd? Does anyone still believe in timing?
Why are people choosing one shot 2 days before?
Just curious!
Sorry for my ranting and my clearly obsessive behaviour!
I actually have two University degrees! Could you tell!?lol
Doula mama...yeah, us today!
Can't wait to hear!!!
Hope and zan..how long do you have to take vitex to sway? what does it do?
Mocah: I think vitex is good for you after your mc. It will start to balance hormones right?
I really am unsure exactly how much rephresh I used. Only 2 tubes overall I think. I stopped using it on my "fake" or real o day. I did use rephresh douche? Is this bad?
Has anyone seen success with cutoff and o plus 12? I know timing does not matter...again, still trying to figure it all out. IF, big IF, I am still gearing up to peak:
Should I give up timing and just keep going and assume it is 5050. Do I wait and see if I timed a 2.5 cutoff and hope girl?
Do I wait and if there is still an o, then do o plus?
I know, I sound crazy!
DH has had it with me...lol. He is still appeasing me one more month and then...that is it! He actually said I will dtd on cd 12 no matter what. Solid attempt and leave it at that! Maybe he is right!
hey Capricorn: 9 weeks right? Is this pregnancy different? Are your girls excited or did you tell them? When will you find out gender?
Lemon-its still not 50/50 you did other things to sway besides timing-even if your timing was not where you wanted it.
I've never paid much attention to Jonas and Lunar signs.. I want to look for fun. What is it and how do I find out?
Hey Hope!
I think timing is not important...and I think I will ovulate tomorrow. My body played tricks on me! It is sooo weird! I am fairly convinced I have strange cm and I think the bding, the represh and the early OPK surge threw me off. I am having another OPK surge I think.
Anyway, considering I will o tomorrow do I leave it at a 2.5 day cut off....go for it again...wait for o plus?
Astro.com
or astroelite. com
I have no idea but it sure does make it easier when it is a girl month!
Hey Lemon,if you are again testing pos on your ovulation tester maybe you are ovulating again,?Or you were trying to last time but you know it can be delayed from stress...you sound a bit stressed ,,, if you dont relax your body will wait until you do!So your egg might be still waiting to go.Drink a peppermint tea and chill,your raising your testosterone levels and that really sways boy!
If you feel you need to dtd again then do it your instincts are usually right over any tests ..and it might make you feel better knowing it is on a girl moon and such too!
FX for you :)
lemon-I just want to say I hope this month works for you!
Thanks for the sites. I may look for fun... I do not think you are having "another" surge. You probably just caught the beginning of your surge which put you at perfect girl timing. I think either decision was a good one- to dtd again or not! I don't think thats going to sway so much. It sounds like you did a great job...Quote:
Originally Posted by lemon2012
Happy Thanksgiving in the US!!!
We have many Cdns heading over tomorrow for Black Friday!
So, my stress saga continues...no peak still on cbfm.
My cm is still there and making me think I have yet to o! It keeps changing texture and colour etc.
It is very confusing....I think sweet sister has a point about delaying ovulation. Of course, does that mean it will happen tomorrow if not already?
I am usually quite good at determining when I ovulate just not in the days ahead of o.
I took the vitex for about a week...does that mean I had enough to change my o day?
Thanks Flava and Hope!
Today is a mirror lunar o day with a girl sign,...not entirely sure what that means though!
Hi girls,
I just posted this but want your opinions~ didn't want you to miss my thread so I am posting here: Thanks!!
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...51#post106151t
I responded in your other thread, but I think your plan sounds perfect!
Hi all! I'm officially in my 2ww now at 1dpo.
lemon - I doubt 1 week on Vitex would change your O date as vitex take usually 2-3 months before it gets into your system to start working.
Awesome Kitten. I'm right behind you! Tonights the attempt! So the two WW starts after O? Is that the deal? Excited..YAYQuote:
Originally Posted by Kitten
I'm right along with you Kitten. I'm 3dpo. According to my CBEFM I'm only 1 dpo, but it's wrong! I didn't think they could be wrong. Anybody have that experience with a clearblue easy fertility monitor?
Yuzu- I find that the ovacue is sometimes wrong. It says I O'd last night and I didn't yet!
Both ovucue and cbfm were wrong for me this month.
CBFM is usually right...but no peak this mnth. The instructions say if you misuse or have a short or long month you might miss a peak. I did not have either though....!
Ovucue is wrong bc I do not have the vaginal sensor just oral.
I just wanted to say hello to you all. Im waiting for the all clear to get back to ttc but im 37 dh is 39 and we have 5 kids already the eldest is 17 then we have 14, 12, 5, and a 1yr old, really spread out. I would love another baby to compleat our family.
I have been on the low everything diet since around june this year when we had our mmc hoping we would get straight back to ttc but ive had PID caused by the D&C i had and im still suffering with it. I have my next gyne apppointment on the 19 December and we are hoping we get the go ahead to start again
I wish you all the best of luck and hope you all get your BFP very soon
I have the ovacue vaginal wand and it was still off!Quote:
Originally Posted by lemon2012
Twinkle - Hello :)
Hi Twinkle!
Wow - I didn't know those things could actually be wrong. Interesting!!
I'm actually starting to wonder if its not off and I O'd way earlier then normal. If anyone has any insights I am happy to hear. Usually I O 2 days after OPK and this cycle I think I may have O'd same day. The vag wand said I did O on CD12. Check out my Ovulation chart below by siggy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitten
How is everyone doing? Where is everyone in their attempts? I see Kitten and Yuzu are in the 2ww ( good luck!) and Hope is just having an attempt! My computer has been messed up so it has been hard for me to come on here accept for on my phone. I will hopefully get to come on more often now.
I just started the meds a few days ago to (hopefully) start my period! Then I will start clomid on cycle day 5. I am excited but suddenly found myself stressed last night and had crazy dreams. I didn't think I was going to get stressed about all of this but here I am!
I'm still waiting for my body to get back to normal after my m/c so I can start trying again. I'm still spotting on and off, but I have a blood test scheduled tomorrow so I'll have a better idea of where my HCG is at. I'm planning to start trying as soon as possible.
How many of you are doing frequent release in your plans? I was planning on doing that for about 7 days before, and the once I get the +opk having maybe 2 attempts but I am a little nervous about it. For ds1 we had sex 18 days in a row. Not sure what to do. To make it more complicated I don't think I can do Rephresh since I will be on clomid. This is all hypothetical anyways since I am waiting on a period and ovulation! Any input would be helpful, I am second guessing. Atomic helped and thought this would be good and I know she has done a lot of research, I'm just nervous...
All the best Mocha.
Hope&dreaming, I had a look at your chart, but Im so hopeless at those things, I wish I had an answer for you.
Amari try not to stress, talk about crazy dreams I have them all the time lately, I tend to have scarey dreams which are not fun.
Twinkle I have 2 girls they are 8 & 6 and then this one will be like a single child really, how did you find it with your youngest, did your other kids all just love it or what?? Cause when this one is born my girls will be 9 & 7 quiet an age gap.
Goodluck Kitten, I see your 3dpo.
Lemon2012 I have no idea what ovucue or cbfm mean, could you tell me please.
amari - I've decided on compressed frequent release this time. When I get my smiley, I'll get dh to release once or twice then within 12 hours we'll make our attempt. I may make a second attempt the next day as well.