2022 TWW Thread!

Thanks atomic I've been having a splash of cows milk or almond milk in every coffee. I've given up thinking about milk in coffees an stopped doing sweeteners only because i just don't like them. I'm just trying to tell myself not to over think anything. Heaps of self talk an distracting myself lol. I'll get there, i am getting there. I have stopped counting things like a splash of milk or a tbsp of flour or even small cal things. I've stopped measuring an weighing things an I'm just estimating or using a tbsp or cup etc as you normally would. I'm trying to not care.

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Originally Posted by Kazzzz

Wow this was so helpful to read thank you.
What is creamer? Is it just coconut/almond milk? I'll start having almond/cows milk in my morning coffee, i normally only have it in my coffees with meals. How many caffeine an decaf coffees would you have each day? Thats so interesting i was telling atomic how my friend has 2 girls no boys an different dads the only common things she did with both which are 7 years apart is that she ate like a sparrow which she always has done and with 1 she drank tons of caffeinated coffee and the other she only drank decaf but tons of it. I think these two things are the top 2 girl swaying things. She has low body fat because she's a bad eater she'll eat breakfast late an only light then have coffee for lunch then eat 2 more small meals for the day or 1 big take away dinner and she never eats alot often i like i do an she doesn't snack she probably has 6 coffees a day she has coffee as her snacks.

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Yes that sounds like she was doing pink friendly things! I would drink probably 1/4 c regular grinds and 1/4c decaf grinds in a whole pot then have half in the morning and half for “lunch” which would be a bunch of greens powders and supplements. I’d add tons of stevia and yes either almond milk or coconut milk but here they have vegan creamers that are non dairy and I’d use that. Then one big meal at the end of the day mostly salad/ veggies and carbs but not much protein. With my boy I was eating a lot of nuts/ avocado/ beans so I’m trying to duplicate some of that for my blue sway! And snacking seems to be a big blue trend. I’d never ever snack w my girls.


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Thanks Thefinalcountdown
What is one pot full? How many cups? We don't do pots of coffee lol we do do pots of tea here not sure if thats the same size it's about 6 cups (48 us ounces)

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Originally Posted by Kazzzz

Thanks atomic I've been having a splash of cows milk or almond milk in every coffee. I've given up thinking about milk in coffees an stopped doing sweeteners only because i just don't like them. I'm just trying to tell myself not to over think anything. Heaps of self talk an distracting myself lol. I'll get there, i am getting there. I have stopped counting things like a splash of milk or a tbsp of flour or even small cal things. I've stopped measuring an weighing things an I'm just estimating or using a tbsp or cup etc as you normally would. I'm trying to not care.

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Giving up milk in coffee is overthinking, though. You can have some milk in the coffee. I personally wouldn't even count it unless you're having a significant amount.

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Originally Posted by Kazzzz

Thanks Thefinalcountdown
What is one pot full? How many cups? We don't do pots of coffee lol we do do pots of tea here not sure if thats the same size it's about 6 cups (48 us ounces)

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An American size pot can run anywhere from 6-10 cups. It varies depending on what size coffeemaker it is.

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

Giving up milk in coffee is overthinking, though. You can have some milk in the coffee. I personally wouldn't even count it unless you're having a significant amount.

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I ment I'm giving up on thinking about that splash of milk in my coffees and just having it so I'm actually having a little milk in every coffee now an telling myself its only a splash of milk not a meal lol. I'm also telling myself coffee is a great for pink swaying. I'm trying to enjoy the sway an let go of lots of different things.

Is it advised for an ocd pink swayer to not count the little things? It helps me be less ocd by not counting the little things i relax so much more. Also since dropping the fear of milk in my coffees I'm now having more coffees both caffeinated an non coffeinated so from only 2 cups a day to now about 5 which i think will help my sway since with my boys an basically my whole life I've only drank 1 cup a day.

I'm using decaf as a tool its a nice free hot drink that won't keep me up at night if i have it after dinner.

I'm trying to focus on whats GOOD for a girl sway instead of focusing on what's BAD for a girl sway or what sways BOY if you know what i mean. I'm trying to focus on the positive. It's working great for my ocd.

I wonder if most also have a little sweetner in these coffees, i brought some Stevia today just for the times that i need a little sweetness so i have it if needed since i don't trust the safety of artificial sweeteners

:agree: ok great that's fantastic.

I advise ALL swayers not to worry about little things. It simply cannot come down to stuff like this, it makes absolutely no sense that it does, and time and again I see the people who are the most wound up about small details getting opposites.

As for the sweeteners, some have them, some don't. People have varying tastes. Some people don't even like sweets at all, or sweetened drinks, and others do.

This one is so yummy!

https://www.amazon.ca/ECS-Coffee-Coc...d_bap_d_rp_1_t

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Originally Posted by treens

This one is so yummy!

https://www.amazon.ca/ECS-Coffee-Coc...d_bap_d_rp_1_t

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Yummmy is it sweet at all? I'm going to see if i can find similar here in nz since things are taking weeks/months to be delivered anywhere atm

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

:agree: ok great that's fantastic.

I advise ALL swayers not to worry about little things. It simply cannot come down to stuff like this, it makes absolutely no sense that it does, and time and again I see the people who are the most wound up about small details getting opposites.

As for the sweeteners, some have them, some don't. People have varying tastes. Some people don't even like sweets at all, or sweetened drinks, and others do.

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Thanks for this, i don't count the small cals here an there even 1 pro or fat here an there once twice a day. I mean we're not counting the spash of milk in coffees an if its cows milk its probably 1 pro 1 fat 15cals. My spash of milk is probably 2 - 3 tbsps probably still to much but for me any less an i wouldn't like it my coffees already look like dish water lol but that's ok better then black coffee

it does kind of im not sure if it is jus the smell that helps it smells so good!

I got a jar of good coffee today with natural caramel flavor and its nicer adds a flavour note

Just got to come clean to someone lol i just had a blow out 8 cookies 4 oreos an 4 homemade ones basic cookies flavoured with cocoa they were only as big as oreos so not hige or anything. Gosh i feel bad now i couldn't help myself lately my want to quit has been getting stronger i miss all my junk food an my period still isn't back so i just think gosh it could be 6 months before it comes back. I've been dieting for more then 5 months now

Ok so yes it was white flour an white sugar cookies big no no but since it was right before i ate dinner its was with a meal and i added it all up an it was only a little over in fat so not terribly bad. Now to forget about it and carry on, I'm really tough on myself so this is good practice of letting go and carrying on i didn't destroy my sway, I'm doing good, i deserved that treat/cheat and i can do this. We all can do this.
Just ideally not cheating with sugar on the pcos le lol i think sugar is my big boy swayer i even thought that waa the case with my last failed sway doing le eating sweets etc. I guess thats why I'm more harder on myself this time. I hope you're all doing well.

Hey! In the same boat but my girl is only 11 months- no period. It’s good because the longer on the sway the better! Chin up! When you relax and get “over it” may just be when you get preggo!!


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Originally Posted by Thefinalcountdown

Hey! In the same boat but my girl is only 11 months- no period. It’s good because the longer on the sway the better! Chin up! When you relax and get “over it” may just be when you get preggo!!


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Yeah i agree we're not trying yet not till i get my period back because i plan to use clomid in my sway but i just don't know how long I'll be waiting some mums don't get their periods back till they have completely stopped breastfeeding even then it can take a couple weeks months after you stop

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Originally Posted by Kazzzz

Just got to come clean to someone lol i just had a blow out 8 cookies 4 oreos an 4 homemade ones basic cookies flavoured with cocoa they were only as big as oreos so not hige or anything. Gosh i feel bad now i couldn't help myself lately my want to quit has been getting stronger i miss all my junk food an my period still isn't back so i just think gosh it could be 6 months before it comes back. I've been dieting for more then 5 months now

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This is why cheats are not only allowed, they're mandatory. Sometimes you just need one. Just move on from here, its not a big deal.

Ok cool thanks i needed to hear that. I've been feeling like some home baking for a few weeks now so i guess it came to a head. I'll just carry on as you say.

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Originally Posted by treens

Thank you ladies!

Kazzzz I drink it black but have flavoured coffee like snickerdoodle and Carmel crunch there are no sugars added to them but taste ok

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How many coffees each day do you have and are they all black?

Wow just got my darkest opk since i conceived more then 2yrs ago so i took a Clearblue and got a flashing smiley getting closer.

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Ok cool thanks i needed to hear that. I've been feeling like some home baking for a few weeks now so i guess it came to a head. I'll just carry on as you say.

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I’ve heard a metaphor that really resonates with me. If you forget to brush your teeth one day, you don’t stop brushing your teeth altogether and berate yourself as being such a failure for not brushing your teeth. You just brush them and get right back on track. If you cheat on the diet or don’t exercise, don’t let it make you fall off the wagon; just get back to it afterwards.


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Thanks that helps i have moved past it now thank goodness i think it just takes a few days back on track to feel confident again. Thank you

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Wow just got my darkest opk since i conceived more then 2yrs ago so i took a Clearblue and got a flashing smiley getting closer.

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any update??? May be getting close!!!

Well I've been testing once a day for like a month now lol since that one the other day I've had a few days of a bit darker ones nothing super close yet but definitely increasing a bit. I've had ewcm and cramps for like a week now its like my body is trying to ovulate. My baby has been waking during the night again just once over the last 4 nights so maybe that's delaying ovulation with the increase in breastfeeding. I'll test again today last night was the darkest and we bd last night anyway so won't be going again for at least a few nights I'll stick to the e4d just to be safe but once things get going I'll do the one attempt for a few months. It's more tricky not knowing were you are in your cycle or if your even in a cycle while breastfeeding. E4d is bd skip 2 nights then bd right? I won't bd e4d I'll just avoid bd over the next few nights just incase.

It's possible to have a couple "practice cycles" where your body gears up to O and doesn't. This happened to me once when breastfeeding, I would have sworn I was ovulating but then my period never came, and I wasn't pregnant. My doctor told me he saw that fairly often with breastfeeding. So have attempt and keep your fingers crossed this is the real deal.

When to have the e4d attempts is to some extent at your discretion. "e4d" just means to have regular unprotected sex just far enough apart to conceive with, but not so close that it starts being more than one attempt. So if you're just getting started with TTC, you might want to have your attempts in the "Monday/Friday" or "96 hour" pattern. I don't mean those days per se, or those specific number of hours, but that's how you count the days. That would be THREE days between attempts. It's lower odds of conception but better chances for pink, so when just getting started, it's a good option since you're not desperate to conceive right away.

Most of the people who use the e4d in the 72 hour pattern/Monday Thursday (that you're thinking of as 2 days between attempts) have been trying for a while. So they're ok with possibly lowering chances of pink to boost odds of conception.

So since you're only just getting rolling with your attempts, it makes some sense to me for you to start off with the 96 hour e4d and then see what happens. We can always revisit this later!

I usually have 1 or 2

I am back again :) 1 ovulated yesterday I believe we attempted yesterday and the day before and may do another tonight.

We would just over all love a healthy baby, a girl would be great but a boy would be just as loved :)) I turn 42 next week and my little boy is now 11 months.

How is everyone else doing?

Hey treens
I'm doing ok trying not to be to disheartened from everything an trying to NOT give up completely. I've past my practice or real ovulation now i believe and will take a pregnancy test on "8dpo" since i have heaps of cheapies. I kind of hope to get my period in 2wks so i can just know whats going on and also start clomid.

We'll be testing around the same time frame. Good luck i hope you get your BFP.

How does it actually work, say i had a fake ovulation then can i have a real ovulation days later or will it be in around 4wks time? Like a normal cycle. New to all this no postpartum period stuff.

Also my opks were getting darker then the darkest one was on Saturday so we dtd that night since then over the last 3 days all my opks are extremely light I've done 3 a day lol no more ewcm an my sex drive has been completely gone. The night we dtd was my last high libido, ewcm, cramps an soft cervix day plus last day of any type of decent line on my opk tests. Maybe i did catch the first egg. Time will tell guess.

Kazzzz- It sounds like you did it at the best time to me. You can only do so much then just wait :) Best of luck to you. Try not to worry or think too hard about it. When the time is right the time will be right and you will get your perfect baby. Best of luck to you!!!

Thanks treens I'm trying to just live my life an forget about swaying while still swaying lol i know everything i need to know now so just gotta go with the flow.

I'm not taking any folic acid how much should i be taking? I'm also breastfeeding.

6dpo i think lol an just had some pink cm like normal white creamy cm tmi but it was pink in colour so maybe my period is going to start any day now. No cramps yet but woke up feeling post ovulation, its normal for me to wake up with a headache an sore shoulders, and neck for 1 or 2 days about half way between ovulation an period. Such a weird thing lol but before i had my last baby it happened every month so i do think i ovulated or maybe I'm just having some random high progesterone or something i aways put it down to progesterone anyway not really sure what causes it. I also waje up feeling hung over which I'm not. Anyone else get this around 6-8dpo

9days since dtd and bfn of frer this am still early i guess but i have a feeling i didn't ovulate which is ok because I'll wait till i get af an use clomid.

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Hey treens
I'm doing ok trying not to be to disheartened from everything an trying to NOT give up completely. I've past my practice or real ovulation now i believe and will take a pregnancy test on "8dpo" since i have heaps of cheapies. I kind of hope to get my period in 2wks so i can just know whats going on and also start clomid.

We'll be testing around the same time frame. Good luck i hope you get your BFP.

How does it actually work, say i had a fake ovulation then can i have a real ovulation days later or will it be in around 4wks time? Like a normal cycle. New to all this no postpartum period stuff.

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There's no rhyme or reason to it. Your body just sort of gears up as if it's going to ovulate, but doesn't. Then your symptoms will go away. You haven't ovulated so you're still in the follicular phase, then in a few days or weeks or months you'll gear up to ovulate again, and actually do it that time, OR you might have more practice cycles where you don't ovulate. No way to predict as it's different for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Kazzzz

Also my opks were getting darker then the darkest one was on Saturday so we dtd that night since then over the last 3 days all my opks are extremely light I've done 3 a day lol no more ewcm an my sex drive has been completely gone. The night we dtd was my last high libido, ewcm, cramps an soft cervix day plus last day of any type of decent line on my opk tests. Maybe i did catch the first egg. Time will tell guess.

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You can get a false positive in a practice cycle because the hormones are there, it's just that your body doesn't ovulate. Then the hormones/symptoms will diminish, the test goes to negative, and then it's just that your period doesn't arrive.

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Thanks treens I'm trying to just live my life an forget about swaying while still swaying lol i know everything i need to know now so just gotta go with the flow.

I'm not taking any folic acid how much should i be taking? I'm also breastfeeding.

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You should be taking at minimum 400 mcg daily for a safe and healthy pregnancy. When swaying, most of us take 1200-1600 mcg since we're eating more restrictive diets. But you do need to be taking at least 400 till your cycle returns.

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6dpo i think lol an just had some pink cm like normal white creamy cm tmi but it was pink in colour so maybe my period is going to start any day now. No cramps yet but woke up feeling post ovulation, its normal for me to wake up with a headache an sore shoulders, and neck for 1 or 2 days about half way between ovulation an period. Such a weird thing lol but before i had my last baby it happened every month so i do think i ovulated or maybe I'm just having some random high progesterone or something i aways put it down to progesterone anyway not really sure what causes it. I also waje up feeling hung over which I'm not. Anyone else get this around 6-8dpo

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I definitely feel off my game in the luteal phase, not sure I can pin it down that specifically but about 50% of the months that pass, I feel unpleasant, borderline sick and miserable. Other months I feel fine, but I do know what you're talking about. I also get that shoulder/neck/headache only when I am about to get my period and often for the first day of my period, and I've read others having that too.

Just keep in mind that your hormones are "doing stuff" (as in rising/falling estrogen levels) even if you didn't actually ovulate, so sometimes it can mimic even if you didn't O.

9 DPO is early to test and keep in mind even if this is O we don't know where in the cycle you'd be.

Omg i just got a smiley on the Clearblue ovulation test the ones that are either a blank cycle or a smiley face no in between. I've been using them for the last 2 days because i ran out of cheapies. My cp is (show) i have mixed cm but definitely some globs of ewcm in there sorry tmi. No cramps which has me thinking its another faky lol frer was negative again this am.

I'm trying to decide do we have our 1 attempt or wait! Because i had heaps of cheats yesterday which is strange because the last time i had a big cheat day i got a close pos the next day and now day after another cheat day and i've got a pos maybe the extra sugar/fat/cals helps some of us ovulate makes sence since im heavily dieting for me personally it's heavily dieting. I don't know if i should wait so i can do our attempt with clomid an without the cheats the day before lol or just go for it an see what happens. If something helped me ovulate I'd say it was the sugar since i was craving it both of those cheat days or maybe fat, But i don't know. Interesting though.

Edit: I'm getting major cramps now so we'll see if it ends up being a real ovulation in a few weeks.

I would go ahead and have attempt, in case there are benefits from catching the first egg, but I can understand wanting to wait for the Clomid, too.

Just to clarify, that is not how ovulation works. A cheat one day cannot make you ovulate. The egg has to go through an entire period of development and that does not happen in one day. Most likely, you had less willpower since you were gearing up to O and cheated for that reason.