I have not read anything from there. My breasts are 38/40 DD's so nope they are not small. Maybe it is my nipples....
I hope the next baby latches, I bet it would make all the difference.
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I have not read anything from there. My breasts are 38/40 DD's so nope they are not small. Maybe it is my nipples....
I hope the next baby latches, I bet it would make all the difference.
I don't do very well with pumping either. It was such a struggle with DS3 in the nicu, by the time he could latch successfully my supply was practically gone. My doula and I tried so hard but it didn't recover. Like Shell said, hopefully your new little one will latch well and your supply will turn out great.
Well ds1 I wanted to go back to work so stopped at 6 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by suregena
Ds2 developed reflux at 3 months and would feed him and end up with it all over me and then he'd be hungry again I found it so hard and draining trying to keep up with his feeds finally the doctors listened to me and gave him meds after a month and in that time i had started giving him formula just to cope with the constant feeding and then just gave up.
Ds3 I'm not really sure why maybe I wasn't eating enough I thought I was but he was such a hungry baby I would feed him and he would still be wanting more and there was nothing left so gave him one bottle of formula during the day for a week and by the end of the week my milk had nearly completely gone!! So again just stopped and was so much less stressed.
Sorry for all the info or ramble!!! xx
Study-study-study NOW! Your breasts are the same cup size as mine. (I'm about a 34DD.) Read kellymom when you have spare time - seriously, just read-read-read. Get all of the *proper* information into your head - it very likely will help immensely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosie85
What are your nipples like? Even women with inverted nipples go on to successfully breastfeed--and in fact, that can help reverse their inverted nipples.
I've heard of health professionals suggesting women switch sides every ten minutes, which is TERRIBLE advice. The baby would never get hindmilk and only foremilk with that sort of pattern, for the most part, and the hindmilk is where all the fat is... the foremilk is like the part that is helpful for thirst (it's more watery.) I've heard of doctors giving bogus, unhelpful lines/advice about why a woman might be struggling... FAMILY are bad ones, too, even though they mean well. What is understood about the science of breastfeeding is so much better (in areas with people who are very serious/educated about breastfeeding) these days then it ever was.
Well they are not inverted but they don't stick out super far either.
I will start reading all I can, thank you!
Oh, dear. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiffani3
That's the thing - they will seem ravenous seemingly *all the time*... you just have to sit your butt on the couch and give in to that hunger. The hunger is not because you are not able to give him enough - it's the opposite... it's because their stomach is TINY, so they can only fit so much, and because breastmilk is the most gentle, wonderful, super easily digestible food for a baby, it will literally go right through their digestive tract - and therefore, they will be hungry again. There is always milk 'left', you just can't get it out like your bub. There are also growth spurt periods where you do feel like you literally have no more... but those periods are actually THEM doing the work to signal your BODY to make MORE because their tummies are a little bigger and they are a little bigger and now their milk requirements have increased a little, so they get crazy-hungry and want feeding nonstop, but it's all part of the process for continuous, healthy, breastmilk production. And, unfortunately, all of these signs can be misinterpreted from the mother that it's *her* problem, that it's *her* fault, that she isn't making enough, that she isn't satisfying them enough... that is SO far from the truth, I'm afraid!
Rosie, if you're having pain with pumping and have large breasts, it is very likely you need larger flanges (the plastic part that surrounds your nipple). I can't say that for sure without seeing you in person, but its a common complaint. I'm a 36dd normally (38 e right now) and I get bad friction with the standard size flanges.
Well, let me just tell you - the baby doesn't latch onto the NIPPLE itself, they latch their mouth and create suction around the whole of or as much of the AREOLA as possible. The nipple should be entirely within the mouth and sort of pointing slightly upwards towards the roof of the mouth. One should always bring the baby to the breast, not the breast to the baby. Watch videos of proper latching and read kellymom, I promise you... it will help! <3Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosie85
You know I thought of that last time around Shell...perhaps I will order new ones just in case.
That is the only real pain I have with bf -- I hate the stupid pump and apparently my body does, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosie85
The pump isn't nearly as painful as when baby is on the breast. It feels like fire a hundred times over when I use baby instead of pump.
I do get very weird crusty stuff in my nipples, like they are leaking something?? it happens 24/7 whether I am pregnant or not or breastfeeding or not. Anyone know what it is? I was wondering if that is an indication of something wrong or why I can't breastfeed.
Can I recommend *not* pumping in the beginning unless absolutely necessary and/or you are returning to work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosie85
It just is not as good as the baby for telling the body how much milk to make. Also, early introduction to a bottle can totally screw with a baby's ability to learn to latch, as well. Artificial nipples are not shaped nor feel the same as a woman's nipple/area, and the milk flow is much faster with a bottle, so if you try to go from bottle to breast to bottle to breast (i.e. if you pumped milk to let daddy feed the baby), the baby will get used to the "fast" flow of the bottle that requires much less "work", and thus will become a bit more difficult to latch correctly (lazy latch) and they will be far more prone to getting "fussy" at the breast because it just won't 'behave' like the bottle does. By keeping them firmly at the breast, on demand, for as long as you can while they are a baby, they will never get the 'way' they get the milk mixed up and it will be far more beneficial towards the success of a breastfeeding relationship, in terms of not getting them confused.
Oh, goodness, that's a whole different topic! Ayyyyiiiiii! I could be here all night. :)
What color is the crusty stuff? I get crusty stuff often but that's because I'm breastfeeding still. Sometimes it just gets dried up there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosie85
That description does sound normal *in the beginning* of breastfeeding... if it goes on longer than that, I assure you... it's the latch!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosie85
Yeah I can try...the only reason I pumped to begin with is the baby would never latch well and the nurses go crazy on your ass. baby will starve baby will starve! argh.
hmmm like a greenish yellow brown , lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by suregena
What you could try... is hand express milk into a little cup or a syringe if you are still working on the latch... but stay away from the pump if you can. Through the frustration, just keep trying. Take breaks, but just continue to try to latch. You can pump but then that's like two less times your baby is stimulating your milk production... one for the pumping itself, two for giving your baby the pumped milk (all the while your baby missed out on two potential proper feeding sessions, equals potentially decreasing milk output.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosie85
I remember (because my boobs were like 5x bigger than his little head! AND HARD AS A ROCK!) having a cry at one point because he was just not latching (I mean, they were huge... I couldn't blame him! His mouth was so tiny!) and I tried multiple holds and nothing was working. My mother held him while he cried, and I cried into my husband's shoulder. After my cry, my mom was like, "RIGHT. YOU HOLD YOUR BOOB. I WILL BRING OTIS TO YOUR BOOB. WE WILL GET THIS DONE!"
That was my only weak moment... but she got him on there and away we went. :) That was probably 3 days post partum... and my only weak time, but there are such little things that can throw you off. I needed my husband and my mom there, both as stubborn as me, to get that baby on my boob! :)
"Generally, a discharge from both breasts, or one that is yellow, green, blue, or black is due to benign causes. But if you have a clear, colorless, or bloody discharge, particularly if it is only coming from one breast and spontaneous, you should be concerned."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosie85
I just read that. You're probably okay! And I really doubt it would be an effect to your milk. You could investigate why you have the crusty stuff... but it might just be what's normal for you but not something that would hinder your ability to breastfeed.
Thanks sweetie for your help hopefully this time I will get through that stage of it and continue on fx xxQuote:
Originally Posted by suregena
I wish i had my mom help me like that! I am glad you got it figured out and had such a lovely experience! I promise to stay away from the pump though this time!
I think maybe I will go in and get the nipple stuff checked out after birth. I just get a feeling about it....
I am suddenly wishing I had nub shots so I could be somewhat prepared for tomorrow....I hate going in not having an inkling of a clue what is to be. I am scared. Probably not going to sleep at all tonight. I am still waiting to hear what my cousin is having, they were finding out today. I bet it's a girl...argh.
Goodluck for tomorrow Rosie, dont be scared its so exciting :)
I'm actually glad I had nothing to nubsess over for a few weeks.. for real. It was nice to just go in there and do it! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosie85
It makes the surprise even better because you do have nothing to go off of.. I did however look at multiple nubs and scans on youtube before my big day so I knew what to look for. Even schooled DH so he knew what was up, and I saw the gender before the tech! :)
Rosie I'm getting a butterfly belly!! Can't wait till tommorow. Cinss is right, someone has to hear pink!!! I really hope we both do. And our buddy spinning. And Cinss can have the last boy..lol
That is the best plan Three! I hope it's spot on!
Good luck tomorrow, Rosie! :)
Aww shell! I am an LLL leader :)
GL tomorrow! I've got my fingers crossed for you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosie85
That is awesome! I'm having to work by email to get things started because the closest group is 2+ hours away.Quote:
Originally Posted by spinningmadly
@surgena - when too engorged its hard for baby to latch and I always suggest hand expressing or reverse pressure softening to help soften up the breast, just enough for baby to be able to latch.
As far as other advice, if anyone needs advice I suggest contacting an LLL leader in your area or an IBCLC and make sure they have that credential. An LC is not the same thing and too many times I've seen them give out bad advice. Help over the Internet is useful but sometimes there's a lot more to the story than just one thing and it helps to see latch etc first hand.
Oh wow shell, that's far ! So do you ever get to go to meetings? I'm glad you are doing it , Maybe you can start some meetings in your area
Rarely. That's the idea: I know there are other breastfeeding moms here, but there's no organized support other than a bf class at the hospital. When my last DS was born and I went back to work, I so needed an advocate and couldn't find anyone, and I really don't want that happening to anyone else. Too many docs here tell moms "you tried but you just can't do it... Here, have a box of similac."Quote:
Originally Posted by spinningmadly
Thanks ladies! Can't wait to hopefully bring pink news tomorrow!
Rosie you start it, and I'll try to continue it...hopefully. :pray:
13 days!!! Seems like an eternity.
Mine was 13 days away just yesterday, it will come fast!
We need a string of pink news now!Quote:
Originally Posted by ThreeMenAndALAdy
WE DO SHELL!!!!!
I just threw up a bunch of bile :(