February 2WW

eek maiden, sucky!!! I hope you get your chance in. Grab him and pin him down! LOL!!!

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Originally Posted by SweetLily

eek maiden, sucky!!! I hope you get your chance in. Grab him and pin him down! LOL!!!

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You made me laugh!!


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Lol, well I MEANT IT! Maiden, get that man and get KNOCKED UP!!! Sending sticky vibes across he planet to you!!!

XX thanks for making ME laugh ;)

LOL, I would absolutely do that but I am not strong enough to restrain him. We tried and he couldn't finish. I think his own anger/disappointment with himself further got in the way. Which is annoying bc I am sooooooo good about not showing my own disappointment and being patient. But he wasn't even willing to work with me, grr. Maybe oral would work but I don't want anything to lower odds of conception at this point.

Btw XX I think your chart is still super promising, bc even with the latest temp drop your temp is wa is way higher than usual.

Junie, thank you for the German translation, I will try the REs at the Uni Klinik in Bonn or a center down in Koblenz, depending on which has an earlier opening. I'm pretty much exactly between the 2 cities.

CD1, here's to March! May this month bring more BFPs!


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Ah nuts XX, I was hoping this was your magic month!


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I'll be shocked if I ever get a BFP! I've come to believe it is not in my cards, and I am fine with that. I'll buy one of every test at my local grocery store to be sure!!! If I ever get one [emoji6]


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Originally Posted by Junie

Maiden- I forgot to tell you I liked the book but didn't like the love triangle. I'm reading a book by Grace Draven now and enjoying it, have you read any of hers? I read one once before and liked it.

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I HATED that love triangle too. Plus I was totally not expecting it from the first book. At least it wasn't ever a full blown thing.

Funnily enough, I JUST read Radiance by Grace Draven and quite enjoyed it! What are you reading by her? I am reading the sequel to Captive in the Dark by CJ Roberts. I can only imagine it makes 50 Shades look tame. Btw I've decided I want to see the movie once comes out on BR.

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Originally Posted by sageviolet

Congrats, uschi!!! Hope your labs go well!

Taytum, I'm so sorry. At least you know some things are working, right? I feel so in the dark about what's going on with my body. I went to see a dr earlier this month, but she wouldn't run any blood tests yet, said I needed to take Creighton classes and chart that way first. I suspect my body is doing the same thing yours is with our perfect timing month after month and then false hopes.

Anyway, I finally got the Napro book I had to special order through the library (opted to do that before signing up for any of those classes!) and something that really stuck out to me and I want to share with you ladies is that you can still have an o with a follicle that isn't maturing right and then doesn't form a good corpus luteum. If it isn't quite right, your hormones will be off and you will be more likely to have pms symptoms and that just rung so true with me about how I'm having all these "early pregnancy symptoms" every month since we're ttc.

Yeah, why waste my time taking those classes and making "proper" charts when I know my body and can tell what's going on right now? The book has explained my case to me even without blood tests: I'm not getting good ewcm before o because I don't have good estrogen. I'm getting stuff like ewcm in the 2ww and just before af and spotting before af because the estrogen and progesterone are off. They're off because my follicles and then corpus luteum are not maturing right. So my current tactic is acupuncture and really trying to improve my overall health, eating even better, exercising even better. The book didn't describe an exact treatment for this sort of situation, although it did mention B6 for people with dry cm, but that probably hasn't done much for me because that's not my problem; I do get cm, it's just not great quality and comes at the wrong times. I need to study more and memorize the description of fertile cm, which was stretchy, clear, and/or something. Anyway, great book if anyone is truly overly obsessed with all this stuff. Obsession helps sway boy, right? lol

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I can't always keep up on these but someone asked me about this post in a PM and I need to address this.

It is normal to have pregnancy symptoms sometimes in the 2ww when things are functioning normally. IT's because your body makes a bunch of progesterone and that can cause symptoms. WE see this all the time with people who do prog supps, they have strong pregnancy symptoms. Having preg. symptoms in the 2ww DOES NOT mean anything is hormonally wrong with you.

It is also to get EWCM sometimes in the luteal phase. Many people report a bit of EWCM right before AF.

I just hate to see you guys poring over symptoms that are very likely meaningless. EVen though there are tons of books and sites that will make all these claims about X meaning Y the fact is that everyone is different and there is no conclusion to be drawn without blood tests about what is going on.b

If your doctor requires you to take classes and chart before running blood tests, get a new doctor. They are not doing their jobs.