Great! Have you considered preseed? Looks like a great sway...
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Great! Have you considered preseed? Looks like a great sway...
I decided not to use it because I have been taking Robitussin and I have more than enough cm....
Just a tmi question.... dtd the second attempt... did anyone's dh find it hard to finish? I think we just had not much sleep, he had a big day at work yesterday and the dog has kept us awake from a massive storm...plus all the goo inside me :-) ....
Anyway I'm all done, til tonight. I'll keep laying down till the girls wake up and then I'll need to shower... I don't smell nice with all this goo lol.....
No you definitely don't need preseed if you're good on the CM front. Personally, my DH takes FOREVER when the pressure is on...which I understand. I can't even mention the word baby if we are within 12 hours of DTD!
GL!
It's hard to find the most current information on here. Thanks Cinss and Dloui.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinss
The reason I thought to try the other way was because I only get a positive OPK for half a day and last months chart shows temp spike on day of OPK. That means I am only going to get in 1 attempt on O day.
Also, I thought sperm take a day or two to replenish. So without starting a minimum of 3 days before, I can't see how 3 attempts in even a 24 hour period is going to generate more sperm. I'm back to being confused again...
By my calculations... around 7 hours between... poor bugger and he's gone to work again....
Yesterday arvo I did a Tai boa session and then carried my 13kg two year old around doing squats lunges, calf raises etc... dh pulled heavy cables all day. I'm hoping that helped on the exercise front.
I really hope I get pg from this.... surely three attempts in the fertile window should do it....
3 attempts in the fertile we really up your chances of both getting pg AND of getting your boy...I'll be stalking you!
Good point... I read something on here that its about getting as many sperm there waiting for the egg and its completely different to a girl sway as they fr for 7-10 days and then an attempt after abstaining.... hope someone can explain it better...Quote:
Originally Posted by luvalittleman
I know it is confusing, but believe it or not Atomic has an essay out there for almost every question you can ask!
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-...ff-o-12-a.html
When we conceived our girls, we DTD most days during the month of attempt. We got pregnant the first month of trying each time.
So when we did our first attempt last week, we waited for our positive OPK then did an attempt that evening, tried in the morning (but got interrupted by our girls!) and then another attempt the next evening. I am really happy with our timing as it is the opposite to what we did with the girls. Now, just I just have my fingers crossed for a BFP in a couple of weeks!
Oh boy! :fx: for you Cass...
Thanks Anchor. I've just read this but it seems to be for girl sway. Is there one for a boy sway do you know?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Anchor
Thanks Anchor! :happy:
See when I conceived DD2, we DTD after +OPK. With DD3 we DTD within the same window given the strong O pains I had the day after. I feel like I have conceived at least 2 of my 3 girls within that 24 hour window.... My first daughter was a honeymoon conception so lots of BD'ing. Is there any studies, etc...that support timing at all out there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cass
Here ya go...the jelly bean factor lays it all out for you.
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...pink-blue.html
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...frequency.html
Not really, the whole Shettles theory is all but dead, here is an essay on how timing DOESN'T sway...Quote:
Originally Posted by luvalittleman
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...le-timing.html
I Dtd all through with my girls.... But I was always on a quest to loose weight.... That's my difference on this attempt. I've put on a few kgs with eating good food and doing weights. Although I'm done with putting on weight so I hope that on 2 weeks I get a bfp.
Its totally fine if you want to try O-4, O-2 and O :) Yes it is true it does take a day or 2 for the sperm to replenish fully, that is why we were all over this timing method, we thought get a whole load up there then 2 days later another whole load, and then on O day another one. But we dont know if half or 3/4 or 97% of the sperm from the O-4 day survive inside, and according to Shettles that is how you get a girl (but dont worry about that Shettles was wrong) So now with the new timing method the thought is get a whole load up there waiting, then a not so full load but its still enough to make it more iykwim, and then another smaller load just like the icing on the cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by luvalittleman
I also got my temp rise the day after my +opk so i understand what you mean, you cant really wait for the +, so in your case you should try to predict O day and get the 3 attempts in the day before. I think the most important thing to remember is that you are aiming for a BFP, the diet and supps and exercise are what will sway for you, but in order for your sway to work you need to get pregnant, so DTD however you want really just dont do frequent release for more than 7 days in a row (which is what the girl swayers do) You may think Why on earth would i do that... well it has happened before where one lady was trying to DTD for the 3 days leading up to O, and she didnt O when she thought she would and got very close to doing FR for 7 days, she didnt get pg then and is currently on a break from ttc atm, but just a heads up, strange things can happen :)
That's a really good explanation cinns.. Something strange happened with me I'm not sure if its possible AF started on 15 November and I've been taken opks the clearblue ones and today is my cycle day 12 I believe (is cycle day 1 classed as the day you come on your period??) I got a smiley today already .. And I have been getting quite alot period cramping all afternoon and still some now and slight pain from left ovary side.. I also had a very small amount of EWCM but not alot and when I was asleep and this morning i was extremely hot I don't know if that was my temp rising, I don't take my temp with the basal thermometer though just something I had noticed .. It's my first time tracking ovulation, so that's why I'm quite confused but I missed a day or 2 where I Didn't take a O test I'm not sure if that was false reading but I'm getting all the ovulation symptoms if that's what you wana call them lol
afy yes CD1 is the day you start your period. I would suggest you enter all your data on the Fertility Friend website while you are practicing getting to know your cycles, and get a thermometer, they are not expensive and such a great ttc tool. I know FF looks a bit daunting at first but its easy to use once you get to know it, and then if something comes up that you are not sure about, we can take a look if you link us. And it is really priceless to be able to go back and look at previous cycles.
Thank you yes I tried to chart it on FF but it was asking me fr my temp etc I didn't have that Info so I left it lol. Yes I did invest in one but never got round to chartin my temp down! I will get back on to that.. That's why I'm purposely waiting to TTC as I'm not familiar with my cycle so need to familiarize my self.. Although I know my cervix has slightly opened up than before! So I'm pretty sure Iam ovulating .. Do we need to have our temp result to chart all the info on FF?
afy, no you can enter as much or as little info as you want on there, you dont need temps, but it is the only thing that actually let you know O has happened. Even just putting in CM, CP, OPK can give you a good picture of your cycle :)
Ohhh right so how do you tell with the thermometer that O has already taken place does it need to show a certain number??
Ill try filling in the info without my temp tonight and see what it shows me! Would you be able to take a look at it please?
Well you have a dramatic rise in temp after you have ovulated, so on the chart it is a huge jump up. There are tutorials on FF and you can look through other peoples charts to get a gist of what happens, its really great, and of course we would love to take a peek, you just share it by copying the BBcode like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by afy
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3061e7/thumb.png
My Ovulation Chart
I definitely will try putting my info in you guys can have a peak so with the opks they just tell you when O may take place but don't tell us when it has stopped? For eg. We could still be ovulating but put opks may not show this??
Thats right OPKs just let you know ovulation is about to happen, and then the temps let you know its over
Wow lol it's alot to be learning but I completely understand ! Bare with me whilst I try to get hold of the BBT I did have one but think DD threw it somewhere lol. Thanks so so much cinns! Xx
Ok so I only got one smiley face yesterday at 1230 and have tested negative since. Today negative too. I had cramping yesterday and this morning. I can't tell what my cm is doing as there's so much semen mixed in... So my question is, we Dtd last night, then this morning...do we do one more tonight?
I would say you have already ovulated so you don't have to DTD unless you would like too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by minimatron
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cass
Good luck Cass.
:fx:
You think we would be ok to skip tonight? If we did tonight do you think we would head into girl territory?Quote:
Originally Posted by dloui128
Id say go again tonight just incase, and dont worry about girl/boy territory, theres really no such thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by minimatron
I have just been reading through the "how we got our boys" thread and besides the diet (which is an overwhelming factor) the thing that jumps out at me the most is the frequency in DTD.
With DD1 we were on our honeymoon so DTD lots but had dieted and done cardio everyday for months to look good.
With DD2 and DD3 it was a one off.
So I was thinking if I wanted to have a few BD's before our attempt (approx 9 days to g-O, ha ha) do you think it would help or hinder us to maybe BD 0-7, 0-4 and then have the 2 or 3 attempts when the OPK+ comes up? Isn't it meant to raise your PH to have frequent BD and also, this means hubby gets to release every 3 days. Just a theory and I apologise for completely overanalyzing this issue.
Luvalittleman i would really love to answer that for you Im quite clueless to this myself im sure the experts will come out soon and reply..
Cinns i did this much of my fertility friend iv copy and pasted the link i dont know if i filled it out properly!!
Im not getting the dot to dot lines that everybody else seems to have lol
40b44e Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com
you can absolutely BD every 2-3 days and then do a few attempts when you get a positive OPKQuote:
Originally Posted by luvalittleman
I agree with Cinss there is no boy/girl territory, you do what you feel comfortable doingQuote:
Originally Posted by minimatron
this is strange... i did i Opk test yesterday and i got a smiley.. and today when i was just about to test again as soon as i inserted the test stick in i got a smiley popping up again! thats not suppose to happen is it? im sure the test stick sign is suppose to flash which tell you your ready to pee on the stick... im confused the smiley face was still there!
Just venting a little...
So I'm still not 100% sure that I ovulated at all, but I guess it's to be expected that this cycle would be a little wonky after my m/c. We only ended up having 2 attempts in the window, as hubby picked up a bug and we had DHs childhood bestie staying with us for a week.
Our first attempt freaked my out...when I realized too late he hadn't released in like 2 weeks so I probably got a batch of old guys in there. Second attempt was ho hum...I don't think there were a whole lot of swimmers (TMI alert...usually he has a big batch :o).
So like I said, O symptoms were all over the place (I don't do OPKs, have had exactly one + in about 200 tests!) and I use the microscope. So IF I did O then my best guess is it was around CD 10, which is a day before our first attempt and a day after our second. Now I'm stressing out, because I'm getting the cramping, boobs a little sore, you know all those symptoms that could be pregnancy symptoms but also just as easily could be AF symptoms. I'm a terrible 2ww-er...I can't even look at OTHER ladies HPTs, lol.
So I'm just going to hang out here. I have no intention of POAS for at least another week, if necessary. I'm on CD 21 (my cycles were 24 - 26 days before my m/c). I am probably out for this month, but there is a very faint glimmer of hope.
You never know maybe in a week you will see a BFP :) But after a wonky cycle it is always nice to start a new cycle as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Anchor
I'm officially in the 2 ww.... Attempt 3 done last night. I just hope I get pregnant!
Anchor, all the best. After my m/c I didn't get af and was pg with dd3...
afy the dot line thing are the temps, its all good you entered a couple of things on there, you will get more used to it, and find other things to add in as you go, like CM, CP, intercourse, opks, symptoms :)
Also the 1st +opk (smiley) you get is the important one, after you see that one you will O 12 - 36 hours later, it doesnt matter how many +s you have after that.
Anchor & minimatron goodluck in the 2ww, hope you both come out the other end with your BFPs :)