April is going to be awesome 2ww thread!

I called the nurse and she said I have to wait for my doctor to be in tomorrow to give me the results, because she isn't aware of the situation, so I asked her can you at least read me the results, she said no, I was like oh my, she said it isn't anything to be worried about. She rather have doctor tell me results because she knows what's going on and etc. she isn't aware of anything. I'm so mad! I have to wait till tmrw! Whatever I'm trying to stay positive knowing my test are darker, I will take clear blue digi tmrw morning that I have left over

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BR, if you're interested in buying metformin and/or femara yourself PM me. I can provide online pharmacy info and usage advice also. I won't be able to reply to PMs until Saturday FYI.

jenren, that's interesting. Do you have any theories as to why AF stayed away for so much longer this time? I would be very frustrated! I'm terrified of it taking ages for AF to return after I have kids.

afrevert, congrats! BFP on a digi at 11dpo is fantastic! Was this your first cycle TTC?

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If I dont get a BFP this cycle I may take you up on your offer maiden. Thankyou so much for thinking of me and be willing to help.x
I have been stalking you ff chart too comparing it to mine you also had a small dip yesterday!

Also it amazes me that you are talking about afs returning late after births because even with pcos and breast feeding mine was between 4-8weeks all times. Funny how it different with everyone!

Ugh Princess, rule sticklers are so annoying! But I'm very confident your results are good.

afrevert, some women seem to need oopsies to get girls. Fx for pink!

BR, happy to help if I can. The variation re when cycles return is truly amazing. There is so much we don't know/understand, clearly.

Pbn3, here's my chart, fairly normal for me so far post O, nothing exciting:

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I think its looking great so far maiden. I know these early temps dont say much but its still nice to see lol. So 4 days till you test?

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Yup if all is still promising/not discouraging I will test 10dpo with a SurePredict (cheap strip but almost as sensitive as old style FRERs). If I see something on that I will test with a FRER, old style. If stark white I'll wait until 15dpo/AF is late.

Nice to see your cross hairs though I think you Oed a day later. Jealous of your earlier O!

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BR, if you're interested in buying metformin and/or femara yourself PM me. I can provide online pharmacy info and usage advice also. I won't be able to reply to PMs until Saturday FYI.

jenren, that's interesting. Do you have any theories as to why AF stayed away for so much longer this time? I would be very frustrated! I'm terrified of it taking ages for AF to return after I have kids.

afrevert, congrats! BFP on a digi at 11dpo is fantastic! Was this your first cycle TTC?

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Maiden the only thing I can think of is that ds3 is still bf. However both my others were bf like crazy when I became pregnant and only weaned after a positive hpt (they really seemed to dislike the taste of my milk during pregnancy.)
Every month I go through at least of week of progesterone related symptoms but have yet to get af. It makes me wonder if my body keeps gearing up but then failing to release the egg. :(

This week I got a dark opk (9 days following my last dark opk) it was almost the same color but not quite as dark as the control. When I tested 24hrs later it was just a very faint line. What is going on with my body [emoji24]

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Hmmm. I wish I had personal experience with your situation! How old are you? Did your first 2 boys night wean sooner than DS3? Any BFing differences between them and DS3 that you can think of? Are you a significantly different weight than you were when you got AF back previously? Have you made any significant changes to your diet or lifestyle since DS3's birth? Have there been any changes to your health?

It might be worth trying Vitex again or could you get Femara (if in the UK or US you can buy online) to induce O. Or obviously you could wean DS3 since he might wean soon after you're pregnant anyway? If you BF at night I would try going as long as possible overnight (at least 8hrs) without feeding to see if that helps, as often it seems to do the trick. O

Jenren, I agree with Maiden on night weaning (that's if you and DS3 are ready for it). I only seem to get pregnant when my babies have stopped nursing at night. With DS1, I night weaned him around 12/13 months and three days later I O'ed then got pregnant with DS2 that cycle. I think what it is with nursing at night, is your body probably figures it's taxed enough feeding a baby during the day AND night, so another baby thrown in the mix isn't the best idea. I know there are women who O regardless of how much/when they breastfeed but I also know that some of us need to reduce/stop nursing in order to get pregnant. Also, this might sound crazy but both times while I was nursing to help bring on O, I slept in total darkness for awhile (as in no street lights, moonlight etc just complete pitch black darkness is what you want) then did a couple of nights with a night light on in our bedroom. I think it's called lunaception...it's supposed to sync your cycles with the moon and trick your body into thinking it's a full moon (O time). I know it sounds out there but I think it's worth a try. It did seem to help but maybe it was just a coincidence.

Aww goodluck tomorrow princess mom with your results:baby2:

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Hmmm. I wish I had personal experience with your situation! How old are you? Did your first 2 boys night wean sooner than DS3? Any BFing differences between them and DS3 that you can think of? Are you a significantly different weight than you were when you got AF back previously? Have you made any significant changes to your diet or lifestyle since DS3's birth? Have there been any changes to your health?

It might be worth trying Vitex again or could you get Femara (if in the UK or US you can buy online) to induce O. Or obviously you could wean DS3 since he might wean soon after you're pregnant anyway? If you BF at night I would try going as long as possible overnight (at least 8hrs) without feeding to see if that helps, as often it seems to do the trick. O

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I'm 27. I'm 100lbs which is a slightly less than I weighed after the other two boys. I went vegetarian about 2.5 months ago and dropped to 95lbs so I've added higher calorie foods back into my diet a few times a week in order to get back up to 100.

Ds1 and Ds2 did night wean a little earlier because I worked nights so I would be gone and they preferred sleep to the bottle lol. I finally got to a point were ds3 can go from 8pm to 4am without nursing (thank goodness) and I am really working to wean him completely. I am tired of nursing but he looks at me with big eyes and says "peease mom nus" and I cave. we are down to 3-4 sessions in 24hrs now.

Maiden I will pm you. I would love more info about Femara and taking it safely.

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Jenren, I agree with Maiden on night weaning (that's if you and DS3 are ready for it). I only seem to get pregnant when my babies have stopped nursing at night. With DS1, I night weaned him around 12/13 months and three days later I O'ed then got pregnant with DS2 that cycle. I think what it is with nursing at night, is your body probably figures it's taxed enough feeding a baby during the day AND night, so another baby thrown in the mix isn't the best idea. I know there are women who O regardless of how much/when they breastfeed but I also know that some of us need to reduce/stop nursing in order to get pregnant. Also, this might sound crazy but both times while I was nursing to help bring on O, I slept in total darkness for awhile (as in no street lights, moonlight etc just complete pitch black darkness is what you want) then did a couple of nights with a night light on in our bedroom. I think it's called lunaception...it's supposed to sync your cycles with the moon and trick your body into thinking it's a full moon (O time). I know it sounds out there but I think it's worth a try. It did seem to help but maybe it was just a coincidence.

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Ksmom I am going to research that! How fascinating. Thank you for that information. I have never heard of it before. :)

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Been feeling crampy all evening, I really hope this is implantation cramping and not a sign of AF.

Your chart looks great Tfahn! FX the cramping is a good sign!!

Doc just left me a message hcg at 12dpo was 84! So I did the beta calculator and just put in a 5 for 9dpo just to see what it will say about doubling it said doubled like less than 48hrs so that's good right? Ugh I'm so nervous! She said come back Monday to check to see how they are doubling. She said progesterone is perfect.

I agree I am loving your chart tfahn!!

I had another temp rise this morning so far things looking good I think

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jenren, I bet it is a combo of nursing DS3 more/later and being a little thin/newly vegetarian. I bet you will O soon naturally, especially considering the recent nursing cutbacks and stopped weight loss/eating more. But Femara should speed up the process and help your pink sway quite a bit too! Win/win I say. Especially if you don't want to have to wean any more/he's not ready. I bet he's adorable when he asks for it!

Princess, great results!

Tfahn, still looking super promising.

BR, post your chart!

My temps are sooo steady. They were for a while last cycle but shifted 1 day earlier and not quite as steady:

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My Ovulation Chart

Nip onto my iPad to do it now. I only use the app maiden how do I post it like yours

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Oh my maiden! I know you've said you have similar post o temps but I've just gone back through your charts and they dont look similar to me at all! Being a vip ff member can you do an overlay of say your last 6 charts against this one?

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I also have a period like pain on my right lower side and feeling sick, but the feeling sick maybe from the crappy cup of coffee I just had from Mac d's!

This site won't let me upload pics from my tablet, grr. My post O temps aren't that similar yo recent charts but I overlayed several others over the past 2 years with steady temps and it's really not that special. Compared to my average it's also not special. Keep in mind I temp at different times so my temps aren't super accurate individually.

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Oh tfahn I'm so sorry 😢 but could it just be a random dip? How long is your lp normally and do you normally get a drop prior to af?

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LP is anywhere from 10-12 days, and yes I almost always drop temps for a day or 2 before AF shows. I'll be over the disappointment in a few hours but right now it just sucks. I know most people say that the progesterone supplements don't help but now I keep second guessing myself about not taking them. And just recalled last month saying that I would try them this month so I could say I tried everything but didn't follow through with that clearly. just wondering if it would have made a difference. Guess I'll be keeping the RE appt for Monday for the cyst check and to see what he wants to try next.

It definitely wont hurt to do whatever they suggest next cycle imo whether it's got to do with progesterone supps or not. At least then you've tried it both their way and yours. Would you consider eod plus additional attempt at pos opk? I'm just soooo bummed for you right now :( that temp drop is devastating :(

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We do EOD already, have been for a year, then usually an extra attempt or 2 at +OPK.

Geez I'm sorry tfahn I must be confusing you with someone else :( I thought you had days (as in 3+) of attempts in a row for the past couple cycles... my apologies

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I just looked at your chart as posted above and can see 4 days in a row?? Have you tried just eod with no opks? Just asking out of curiosity? Sorry I cant see any chart link on tapatalk so have no idea what you've done previously only my dodgy memory lol

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It works out that ways sometimes, EOD then usually throw an attempt in at EWCM and then extra attempts at + OPK can sometimes give me 4+days of attempts

Wow 1moregirl!! So happy for you and your timing sounds perfect!!

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Just read a really good article about progesterone supplements that I found this morning, sounds like it is only really helpful with IVF patients. I don't think if I would have started taking them 4 days ago like the RE wanted would have changed anything, which made me feel better.

Progesterone & Pregnany: Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood! | Tennessee Reproductive Medicine Blog

Fingers crossed for you 1moregirl.

Its so weird my pregnancy with my youngest my DS and I had few mc after him but since my son when I am pregnant right before I find out my first symtpom is always that indigestion heartburn feeling. Even with my first DS, that's what kept me from not worrying because I had that constant indigestion lol.

This time I don't have it which is weird because since my DS who is now 2 each pregnancy I had it. I didn't have it with DD I didn't even know I was pregnant till 10 weeks, I just was scared to test, but I did feel little sick at time but mostly tired. I know I'm early but just weird because indigestion always starts 8dpo with my DS and past two pregnancies that I miscarried further along. Not my chemical last month.

I just get tender boobs at times.

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Yay!!

Tfahn I heard about that also about progesterone,

Tfahn, so sorry about the temp drop. I honestly really thi k you need Femara as you are not responding to Clomid even at 100mg. I want to see you Oing earlier with a 14 day LP. If I could, I'd start you on 5mg Femara CD3-7.

Glad you got another attempt in, 1moregirl.

I have an appt with the RE for Monday. I will ask about the Femara, not sure they will give me that or not, they have never mentioned that drug before. Have you ever taken it Maiden? I am also going to ask about getting scanned around the time I ovulate to check egg sizes and lining just to see what is going on.

Princessmom your beta level sounds great and yay for good progesterone! FX the hcg doubles!

Best of luck BR!!

Maiden and PBN, your charts are looking good so far. :) I'm really, REALLY hoping both of you get BFPs this month!

Tfahn, I'm so sorry. :( I really thought this was your month. I hope the RE is able to prescribe Femara or try something else different so you can get your long awaited BFP. It's so not fair you've been trying so long!

Good luck 1moregirl! I hope you catch the egg!

I had my RE appointment today and good news is, pretty much everything looks great! DH's SA was good, especially his sperm count which was quite high. The RE said my progesterone was a little low along with my prolactin. I thought I O'ed a few days ago but my temps don't reflect it so I told the doctor I'm now on CD26 with no ovulation. So next cycle, she's prescribing Femara and I'm supposed to go in for a few blood tests then an ultrasound. If I get pregnant, I'll be put on progesterone then have an early ultrasound to make sure baby is in the right spot. I'm really excited to be taking Femara considering how frustrated I get with late O!

Ksmom, that is awesome about the Femara. Maybe you will get pregnant this cycle and not need it!

tfahn, my dr won't prescribe Femara, especially bc I already respond 'well enough' to Clomid. I don't fully agree bc I'm still Oing late. But I'm just now 35 and age makes a difference. Older women do a lot better on Femara over Clomid. Femara is truly a wonder drug, very effective, safe, with no side effects, I want to be on it sooooo badly.

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I have an appt with the RE for Monday. I will ask about the Femara, not sure they will give me that or not, they have never mentioned that drug before. Have you ever taken it Maiden? I am also going to ask about getting scanned around the time I ovulate to check egg sizes and lining just to see what is going on.

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Mine didn't talk about femara until I mentioned it either. Mine said we had other things to try before they got there. In the end they bypassed all the tabs and went straight for fsh injections!

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Ugghhh not sure I could do the injections, but another couple months of BFN's could convince me :) Hate the thought of giving myself shots.