Should say, I think he thinks am an awkward old cow and referred me on to shut me up! X
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Should say, I think he thinks am an awkward old cow and referred me on to shut me up! X
I feel like this today. Frustrated that I have to do everything and keep everyone happy but no one seems that interested in making sure am happy. I had to do a six mile run today after work because I could not face it before I had appt with gp. My husband was home early sitting on his bottom drinking coffee and I so hated having to go out and run. But going to treat myself to a lovely long bath, if my wee ones ever go to sleep, then into bed with my book, going to be good to myself! Sending hugs momma, these days come to us all! XQuote:
Originally Posted by momamia4
So annoying, hope the results are good tomorrow. Are you still in the 2ww? If so and you are pregnant what should your results be? Exciting! XQuote:
Originally Posted by jennypenny
Sorry Lissastick, sending hugs! Glad to have you with me on the Sept bus though! XQuote:
Originally Posted by Lissastick
Thanks, I tried my hardest today. He has at least done something!Quote:
Originally Posted by Burakoam
I need some of your kickass attitude, love it! XQuote:
Originally Posted by Burakoam
I think he is making a lot of assumptions about your cycle without additional testing/ultrasounds. I'm glad he referred you. It seems to me he knows he's out of his depth in this area and that's why he referred you so quickly. I'm glad you'll soon be getting the care you need! :) in my experience when the opks say you ovulated is when you actually ovulated. My old RE said you typically ovulate the day after the first positive opk. I think you clearly have a lp defect and need the clomid. I think it'll definitely get you your little girl. :)
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Thanks, it probably be a while before anything happens. I agree with you, ovulation is a biological event, they rarely occur without it registering in some way! I love the support in this group, ttc is such a hard process, what would I do without you ladies xQuote:
Originally Posted by momamia4
I agree. I'd lose my mind during this process if it wasn't for this message board! :)
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Hi girlie. Just my 2 cents. Only because I have worked for the nhs in a related field and also had problems conceiving my first, eventually fell after 16 month trying, several cd21 bloods, scans and 2 doses of Clomid.
I'm baffled as to why he didn't just prescribe clomid. As this would provide a stronger and more effective ovulation. I hope you will be reffered quickly. They may do a scan to check lining/tubes/ovaries etc. There's alot of things they can check for before ivf route is taken. That should be a last resort especially as you will have to pay for it private. As far as I am aware clomid should cost only the standard prescription charge and any scans should be free of charge too. Even if they suspect a blockage and suggest a lap and due (which I was one cycle away from) it shouldn't cost you. I hope this helps and I've got everything crossed you get sorted. Although I'm still baffled as to why your gp did not prescribe the clomid even for 2 cycles with those progesterone figures but I guess they all must work different. I was given clomid off my gp while waiting for a refferal which thankfully I never needed. All i can suggest is you dig you heels in and go armed with as much information as you can. I'm not sure if you can access the NICE guidance for secondary infertility as this might be worth a read and should help you see the options open to you xxx
Stress (like swaying can be) ramps up the anxiety.Quote:
Originally Posted by momamia4
I know how you feel, when I'm anxious no one can do or say anything right, and the negative nannies are soooo annoying.
Maybe take a few days away from anyone that stresses you out?
Yeah, I know. I think I will take a break from everyone. I just need to relax for a few days.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsSparkles
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Thanks, I think some gp's are reluctant to prescribe in the uk, maybe you were lucky? I think he does not believe I have a problem and really he is just trying to shut me up. I work for the NHS myself so I should be able to access the NICE guidelines on secondary infertility. Any thoughts on ovulation that would not be indicated by temp spike, picked up by two different ovulation prediction methods and then a few days later all these measures indicate ovulation? Really appreciate the advice! I wish he had not dragged his heels and prescribed clomid but he won't. Least there is time for me to read up on the nice guidelines, have a few more probably failed cycles under my belt, which would maybe mean the Dr I see might act quicker. And you never know, hope springs eternal and maybe I will get pregnant before the appt and won't need it! Thanks again, how you feeling? XQuote:
Originally Posted by baby2016baby
HiyaQuote:
Originally Posted by Girlieplease
Yeah still in 2ww (11dpo) fx for another few days . Trying to stay positive that my lp has been longer this month with no spotting for a change!
The mid cycle spotting and spotting before AF was really freaking me out.
From what I've read, a blood test done at 8dpo wouldn't show up pregnancy yet anyway so not gonna get my hopes up for that.
It will be Interesting to see what the results do show. This month seems to be more like my regular cycles that I had before we started our attempts 6 months ago, so hopefully it will happen soon for us.
I hope you get an appointment through soon for a specialist, and then turn out to be pregnant before the appointment date so have to cancel it!! xxx
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Girlie, make no mistake doctors hate me because of my 'kick ass' attitude LOL...its probably for the best you ARENT like me hahaha.
only thing that makes sense for you in my opinion since your progesterone ISNT low is an FSH problem....
Luteal Phase Defect Treatment
Poor Follicle Production
If the pituitary gland does not make enough FSH hormone during the first half of the menstrual cycle (the time between your last period and ovulation), then follicle production may be weak, which can cause a thin uterine lining and an early period. This of course will prohibit fertilization and implantation from taking place.
Which of course means you NEED the clomid unless (and i think its unlikely but i am sure it happens) it resolves on its own before your referral.
We are here for you girlie hoping they get you in sooner and you can be on the way to conceiving your DD...
Secondary infertility can be just as painful as Infertility itself in my opinion because its super frustrating that you have gotten pregnant in the past but for some reason your body isnt allowing it to happen now.
if you dont mind me asking where do you sit at currently for weight and height girlie? if you are underweight that can cause a LPD too and when someone mentions running 6 miles to my lazy butt all i can think about is how fit and possibly skinny they must be because 1 mile tuckers ME out LOL
I think I'm going to attempt this cycle despite potentially being due in May when 2 of my DSs already have birthdays. I don't really want to skip another cycle. I don't see any reason to skip this cycle health wise. I don't even know if I'll actually ovulate this cycle. I guess we'll see what happens! :)
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Hi momamia, remember that some of your anxiety could also be hormone related. When I first got off BC I thought I was losing my mind because my anxiety was off the charts and I couldn't get my brain to just settle down. Normally (on BC) I don't struggle with anxiety or things like that so I felt foreign in my own body. For me it is a side effect of my PCOS and hormone imbalances. All that is so much better for me since getting on Metformin and eating better for PCOS.
Hope you feel better and I am happy you are not taking this cycle off. I am rooting for you.
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Crossing my fingers for you :fx:Quote:
Originally Posted by momamia4
So it's official.
I am a POAS addict :poas:
Did another of the Amazon cheapies today - it's the ultra sensitive one (I know they're bad, but I just couldn't resist)
Did it with first morning wee, and a BFN in like 10 seconds - they say to wait for 5 mins to be sure. But there was not even a faint line and I am 12 days PO now.
I know that I should wait until 14 days, and I will retest on Saturday, but feeling a bit glum.
I have 2 Clear Blue Digitals, but I don't want to waste them as they are expensive.
I'm ok. In my own world as it doesn't feel real and I still have no real signs. I've got gd hovering about now too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Girlieplease
I probably shouldn't (as a responsable human)suggest this but have you thought of ordering clomid yourself? It would have to be from America or China. I can't really reccomend it to be honest as it could put you at risk of ohss, multiples, etc.....and your only supposed to take it for 6 months combined in your whole life. I was not monitored on it at all (other than 21 day bloods) but I think I'm is it's taken in combinations with other drugs and ultrasounds in USA. Just a though if you get nowhere with your refferal but is so some serious research first. Self medicating comes with a whole can of worms of it goes wrong as
As for the ovulation issues I can't really comment other than bodies are strange. It took a change of tactics for us as I think waiting for a true pos/solid smile for us was too late. I think I might ov really quick like as soon as surge starts. My temps are unreliable as im a terrible sleeper but my rise happens same day I get pos opk. I can only suggest doing every 3 days or every 2 (BUT this may sabbotage your pink sway). have you thought of a sa for your hubby? Xxx
12dpo today, Woke up with Light brown cm :(
Tested and got a bfn surprise, surprise!!
Have made a doctor's appointment for this afternoon to go over my results from blood test.
Feel sooooo fed up :(
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So how many dpo are you ladies? Are you guys waiting til AF is past due, before testing, or what's the drill? I am 6 dpo today and am most likely going to start pos @9dpo and pick up some given bfn's.... I just can not help myself....
Anyone feeling impatient as well?
Would like to hear your thoughts xx
I know how you feel :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jennypenny
We just have to try and be positive that September is our month.
Big hugs to you
I am 12 dpo, and I started testing at 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foreign Chick
It was too hard to resist.
What kind of tests have you bought ?
I'm sorry MrsSparkles! It's still early, so I'm holding out hope for you. :)
So sorry, jennypenny!! :(
Thanks everyone! My body is so weird. My temps are all over the place! :/ I'm going to just keep trucking and see what happens.
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11 dpo today for me. I am happy that at least AF hasnt arrived yet which is a great start as I have had a shorter luteal phase (9-10days) the past few months. I have had some shocking cramps this past week but I also had that with DS1 & DS2 but not quite so early. I started testing yesterday as I was just so curious & I am desperate to start eating normally again! Unfortunately with DS1 I didnt get a BFP until 3 weeks after positive OPK so I am realistic that I might not test positive for awhile yet. Hoping still to be like DS2 who tested positive 2 weeks after OPK. Fingers crossed for you & wishing you all baby dust!
You are not out yet! you might have O'ed late and actually only be 11dpo or less?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsSparkles
with my last pg I got a bfn @ 11dpo AM but a bfp @ 11dpo pm. For the AM test I've used the FRER and for the PM I used the CB+ followed by a digital and both were +
I sure have my FX for you
I haven't picked up any yet, I Have a CB digital left from my last attempt, but obviously I'll wait to use it...
I'm planning on getting some 88cent cheapies from Walmart and use these until about 11 dpo, and then prolly get a FRER 3 pack :D
You are absolutely correct!!! As long as AF stays away, anything is still open! Early cramping could be an indicator for PG...let's hope this is the case! I have also been cramping off and on, but I keep telling myself that it's just my imagination. I always cramp until 1 dpo and again @ 13 dpo, but never inbetween. Funny thing is I've been cramping on the left side as well. but I O'ed from my right Ovary this month.... Trying to remain neutral and not set myself up for disappointment, but it's so difficult to ignore "these symptoms" hehehehQuote:
Originally Posted by kc15880
Best of luck to you hope this month is IT for all of us, especially the ones who have been waiting for EVER!
xx
Arghhh I just caved and did the CB one BFN of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foreign Chick
I have one CB left, AF is due anytime from Monday (sometimes I am a week overdue and thats nothing unusual), so I am going to wait now, and if AF is not here by Wed I will test again.
I feel so nauseous, the inside of my cheeks feel like they have saliva running down them - thats how my sickness always starts if I am ill.
Good idea with 88cent ones, stock up on them and satiate the POAS craving lol
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Originally Posted by momamia4
That's the spirit - keep your chin up girl !
And thanks, I will keep a lil glimmer of hope for this month, otherwise I am treating myself to a night out on the town lol
Yes, that's a good attitude. Go to keep on keeping on! GL to everyone moving on to September. I hope we have some more good August news coming up this month.
I'm going to wait to test this month because the bfns bum me out. Although my LPs have been so short that been my first sign at this point. Have a good weekend, ladies!
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Just back from docs.
Progesterone is 47. So she said that's fine.
She has put in a referal for the fertility clinic which should be about 3-4 months.
Husband has to get a semen analysis done -yikes! I will wait until he is relaxing with a beer tonight before breaking that news to him lol!!
In one way I feel relieved that results appear to be fine but in the other side confused as to why I am not getting pregnant !
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That's a really good progesterone level! I wish mine was that high.
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So I am only 10 DPO according to FF (ovulated 2 days later than normal)....trying not to get too excited after my chemical last month, but this is a second line, right? Thoughts?
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I can't see that pic!
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I see a second line, congrats. I would take a more sensitive test maybe to see a darker line possibly. Fingers crossed for you.
I believe I am 7 DPO today and will finally be testing next week, fingers crossed. Blood work is scheduled for Next Friday for HCG levels but I will probably take some FRER's before them. Don't want to start too early since I had a trigger shot this cycle but that should be out of my system by Monday, might try to hold out until Wednesday to test if I have the will power. Hoping for more August BFP's.
That is a line for sure !
That's awesome :D
:bighug:
That's good news though hun, and hopefully you will get pregnant before you have your appointmentQuote:
Originally Posted by jennypenny
See it now! Definite second line! Congrats!!!! Hope this is a sticky LO for you!
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