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Ahhh, so no pos OPKs either yet, Jen?
BTW, my 4 year old loves your siggy, he loves the star throwing and now asks us to pretend like we're throwing stars LOL! he loves the pillow fighitng in your siggy too.
sometimes he'll be on my lap and i'll be reading posts on this website and he just watches all the siggys, LOL.
Hey, if you're reading this, I have a favor to ask...Can you send me some O vibes today??? As much as I hate to admit it, I'm feeling like I won't O this cycle. You don't have to respond by posting, just send me some silent O vibes, lol! :flowerz:
Too funny...TFS! Both my little guys do the same thing...They looove looking at siggies too and that's why I chose the ones I did. :)
No +OPKs yet...it actually looks like what color was building the last few days is going. After taking Vitex, I usually have a nice fade-in w/two days of +OPKs. Had hardly any color yesterday. Oh, well. If it's meant to be, it'll happen. You need AF and I need O!!! Sigh...
Oh, Jen - I'm sending you all the O vibes I can. Keep BDing regardless of those OPKs - remember that FF gave me crosshairs without a +OPK, so you could have just missed the surge. I just KNOW this is going to be our month - your body's just taking its time to make the healthiest egg possible this time! :HH:
O vibes Jen, I hope it happens soon!
:hugs: Jen - I know exactly how you feel. I'm sure that egg is going to pop out soon. I see good things for us for 2012. Good riddance 2011.
Hi, ladies! Just checking in from Mexico! Hope you all are doing well! The connection isn't very good here so not really getting on the computer. Just wanted to say hi and send you happy thoughts for everything pink!
We are doing are thing here...having a hard time finding food! I am hungry and have to go to dinner tongiht with everyone, I either won't eat enough again and just get a salad or eat way to much everything by getting risotto? Not sure which is worse??
Any news here?? xoxo Amari
:wave: Amari! Hope you're enjoying Mexico!
Hey Amari, things are good here, nothing new to report besides us ladies waiting for O to come! AF is supposed to show up today, and I really want her to show up now so we can get the show on the road...
Don't think we've had any new BFPs or anything...just playing the waiting game!
Hi Pink Swayers,...looks like we are all feeling the same way.
It is hard not to be obsessed with all this information and it is so easy to come down on ourselves for wanting something that seems so impossible.
My problem is I have no gut feeling....or any idea of what approach or plan feels right to me.
I truly want to get pregnant, I cannot take this anymore!
So, I know one attempt is probably not a good idea given my age. I feel uncomfortable too close to ovulation unless there is a lot in there to give the girls the extra shot at beating the boys.
But I have a hard time understanding that frequent bding sways boys due to ph levels and then I read frequent bding sways girls bc it lowers sperm count.
Everything contradicts!
Many are doing frequent release but why do you have to start so soon....Dh cannot possibly release every day for 10 days! Last month we tried compressed release but we did not get pregnant...although I think it was due to other factors since as depth of penetration and reprhesh.
No one talks about depth of penetration? Maybe we need to get it in there?
Sorry this is so TMI!
So, I am cd 8 and will most likely ovulate on cd 14 give or take a day....what to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OOTB,do you usually o late? You still have a great chance! Maybe add o plus 12 as you are waiting....or keep going!
aurora,....did you decide what to do this month? What did you try last month?
jamie...you look young:) When will you plan your attempt?
I think the rephresh on the day of attempt is not helpful to get pregnant, but maybe a few days before?
I think I will try that...just not sure how much rephresh.
I HATE THE DIET...and I am not really doing it much anymore. I do not eat a lot so maybe that will help.
I don't weight a lot so I am hoping that helps...and it is ALL fat! hahahha, no muscle on me! ugh!
Maybe we need to compare attempts for this month to help each other out?
Oh, and what not to do!
I don't know what you mean about having a lot in there to give the girls an extra shot - it seems likely that girls have a better chance when there is less sperm overall and that the boys prefer to have lots of other sperm to help penetrate the egg. DTD near/at ovulation will help you to get pregnant but lowering sperm count overall will sway pink.
A potential increase in pH of DTD every day can easily be overcome by using Rephresh or DH could release every day without actually DTD.
You have you release for at least 7-10 days to ensure you're lowering sperm count enough - by not giving your DH's sperm enough time to replenish. The compressed FR you did last time should have a similar effect.
Shallow release is just one of those things you either do or don't do, your choice. We didn't because I think it's difficult for DH but I did a Jump and Dump straight away which has the same end result (less sperm/semen). If you're using Rephresh and doing FR and/or not having many attempts you might want to forget about shallow release.
Thanks Zan,..you have some helpful advice.
Now that I am 4-7 days away from o I have no chance to fr and I think DH does not like it anyway.
What do I do now?
I understand the sperm helping the others up there...what if I dtd a few times but stopped 2 days shy of o?
For instance, cd 10, 11 and 12 with release maybe on the morning of 11 as well to lower it...? Maybe even the morning of cd 12? Or maybe dtd earlier on cd 12. I think will o on cd 14.
Does any of this make sense?
I don't think I could do what you did or as well!
I also have not stuck to the diet that well and only take vitex for about a week and a half.
I have not started rephresh yet.
OOTB, just wondering why you choose frequent bd for so long?
I think it is a good sway...just trying to decide my attempt and I was wondering what made you go that route?
Amari...i wish I were in Mexico too:) Hope you are good and enjoying the food...you are on vacation right!!!!
I read that some of you ladies got a baby girl spell. Can i ask what this involves, how much it is and how it works?
GeCon - I ordered this one: Fertility & Pregnancy Spell for a Daughter ~ Baby Girl | eBay
she casts the spell and sends you the ring which you can wear (either all the time or infrequently, provided you wear or hold it now and again), there is a spell which you say and you do that 3 days in a row over your fertile time for 3 cycles in a row
if it doesn't work, you get your money back or a re-cast.... so seems like less risk to me!
All, thank you so much for your O vibes. I think they worked b/c I got a +OPK yesterday afternoon. I promptly shot a bunch of RepHresh up there again :) and then we BD at 8:45 pm. I got a temp spike this a.m. and I’m hoping it was an actual post-O spike but I’m not sure. When I conceived in July, I got 3 +OPKs in a row. When I had my first post-m/c O, I think I got 2. This one is out of the blue (seems to be my theme w/everything :p ). I plan to take another OPK at my regular time today but I'm thinking it'll be neg. I’ve stopped Vitex and the Peppermint Tea for now. You all are welcome to look at my chart (in my siggie below) and let me know if you think I actually O'ed.
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Lemon, I’ve chosen to do frequent BD starting so soon b/c I really, really just want to be preg again. I wasn’t exactly sure what my cycle would be post-m/c I figured if DH is going to release, it may as well be in me :) Although we’ve been BD like rabbits, I’ve been using about ½ an app of RepHresh every day. I know it’s probably overkill but I thought that w/the amount of BD we’ve been doing, I wanted to make sure I was still swaying pink. We also used some Sylk. I tried to get DH to do it shallow and he did most of the time :oops: but I also waited at least 10 min each time before I dumped. I have no clue what will happen but if I don’t get a BFP this time, RepHresh will be the 1st thing I scale back on for sure!
Auroara, has AF come for you yet???
Rainbow, hoping that preg spell works and you get a speedy BFP...it sure can't hurt!
Mocha, YAY...AF is ending for you and you're on your way to O time...! Is your appt. tomorrow? Honestly, I think they'll tell you you're all clear. I really do!
GeCon, glad you're joining us here!
:wave: Hi, Zan! :cheer:
Amari, I really wish I was in Mexico on vay-cay right now! Hope you're having fun, Chica!
AF came yesterday, as expected, but later in the evening! :cool:
I was very excited to see her show up, since I want to get moving back to TTC! LOL<I never thought I'd be happy to see AF, but i was getting very ticked yesterday evening cuz I just knew i wasn't pregnant and i didn't want her to show up late and delay my Christmas ovulation....
Lemon, last month my attempt included a full applicator of rephresh 2 days before a one time BD. I got BFNs at 10, 12, and 14 dpo and my period came as expected.
Am considering dropping the rephresh and just doing a one time attempt after I get a + OPK, so prob an attempt on Christmas Eve.
Rainbowflower, that is interesting about the girl spell!
My thoughts on pros and cons:
Pros:
If i drop Rephresh, I am sure my chances of concieving will go way up and I am 90% sure I will concieve without rephresh.
Cons:
MY PH even with diet and supps (baby aspirin) usually lingers around 5's to mid 5's. Not sure I totally buy into ph theory, but I had some sense of calm about rephresh keeping everything nice and toasty at 4.5, though it irririated the heck out of me :( Thinking if I do rephresh, my chances of concieving may go down to 20%, or so.
So then I have to weigh and figure out how much do I just want to get pregnant now versus doing a stricter girl sway?
The other thing that's been on my mind lately is that I just really *feel* I will have a girl. I've had numerous dreams of her, of being told "girl" at ultrasound, then I got that reading from Itabu on IG who said she definitely felt girl for me. She also told me about issues DH and I have with money, and I never even mentioned that to her...she picked up on his indifference/reluctance to TTC too, and again I never mentioned those things, because I didn't even "see" his relcutance or have put it into words or thoughts until I read what she said! I'm only afriad feeling this way will relax me too much and weaken my sway.
But I just *knew* before I had DS2 he was going to be a boy. I mean, the night before the ultrasound, I felt it so deeply in my bones there was no doubt I was going to hear boy the next day and I did. I was 6 weeks pregnant with DS2 when I wrote in my journal "I just know this is going to be a boy" even though my DH was so sure it was going to be a girl, I kept telling him "boy"
What are ya'lls thoughts about motherly intitution?
Auroara, you could maybe drop the RepHresh and use Sylk for a lube. It would probably up your chances of getting preg while still helping keep pH lower at the time you BD.
Well, I don't really trust myself most of the time. W/my last pregnancy which ultimately ended in a m/c, I was hopeful it was a girl but still had big doubts, especially b/c I conceived accidentally while off the sway. About a wk before she died, we heard that my blood work was unfavorable and we may in fact lose her (my blog tells the whole story). It was at that time, threatened by her impending loss, that I just knew she was a girl. I kept this feeling up until the doc who delivered me told me that she was in fact a girl. DH on the other hand knew she was a girl right from the beginning and kept telling me so throughout the pregnancy. I think that I have to be up against a wall and have all the other "noise" tuned out before I can really hear the truth from within. I'm not sure if how I wrote this makes sense but I do believe in intuition...but for me, I just have to tune everything else out (which is very hard to do b/c I'm just a noisy stress-ball).
Jen, I read your blog and it made me cry, I feel sooo much for you, about losing your twins :(
But yeah, I do believe intiution is there, but it has to be focused on, or other things have to get tuned out
I'm not sure if what I'm experiencing is true intiution or just pure desire
My husband and I watch Tim Allen's new show "last man standing" and it's pretty funny for a sitcom, but on it he has 3 daughters, and there the middle daughter is like my husband's worse fear. She's really pretty but kind of vapid, airheaded, etc, and is always getting into some trouble which makes the show funny. But every Tuesay night we watch it, he has to remind me that is the kind of daughter he's "deathly afraid of."
He really is afraid of having a girl :( I just know if we had one he'd be completely in love with her and I think it would help "soften" him some...just as having the boys has taught me soooo much. I am sooooo in love and devoted to my boys, they have really opened my heart & mind.
Jen, I read your blog and balled like a baby! I am so sorry for your loss. MAJOR girly VIBES your way!
Auroara,
My DH is afraid of being a girl daddy too. He does not even want to change her diaper because he is so afraid of it. With our boys he is the best stay at home dad you could ever ask for, but something about having a girl just scares him. He wants one, but not sure he will be a good girl daddy. I think he will do great! I am sure mine and your DH will fit into the girl daddy role once she is here. pink vibes your way!!!
Here is an update on me tell me what you ladies think:
I started regular OPK's yesterday and this AM I think I got a +OPK. I have a poll about it, if you want to look at the pic of it and cast your vote. What do you think I should do. I am CD17 with possible +OPK, but no PEAK on CBE monitor. I used a full applicator of RePhresh last night. My DH has not released since Saturday, so about 3-4 days abstaining (he is 40). My temp went up today to 98.38 which is the highest temp so far this cycle. I just don't know what is best for me at this point. I was basing my sway on my last cycle using my CBE monitor and FF, so this month my O might be sooner than I anticipated. Last cycle my coverline temp was 97.98. On CD19 and CD20 I got PEAK on CBE monitor, but did not use OPK's. CD21 was a HIGH on CBE monitor. If I use the Monitor setting on FF, I get my O as CD20 and changing to Advanced, I get my O as CD21. So, I was thinking I was heading that way again this month, but I started the OPK's and the RePhresh and I think I might have messed up any attempt this month????? Please help!!! What should I do to try for my girl this month? Remember I am coming from IG and the contradictions between the two sites is so hard to make decisions clearly, so any advice you all could give is so needed and appreciated!!!
Maybe I should start DTD tonight through O? I could use the RePHresh right with my attempts? How often, remember I used an applicator last night (cannot figure my CM today grrrh)? and do the JAD? But we are 37 and 40, and I have anemia 7.9, VitD deficient level 4, and my thyroid level is out of what too. Ideas pretty please?
KrazeyDaisy,
your hubby is a stay at home Dad? Mine is hoping to be one in the year coming up because it makes finanically better sense (his job pays a lot less than mine) and I trust him to take care of our kids....that's funny about being afraid of girls, I think my husband woudl do great being a girl daddy.
I will have to look at your post! I'll let you know what I think!
Now I'm getting a little nervous about the rephresh that it might really hurt my chances of conceiving this month after reading more on here. We are fairly young (25) and conceived on the 1st try with both of our previous children. Really my only sway plan as of now is
-I'm eating fewer calories and trying to keep it low sugar/carb I don't eat breakfast (try not to eat until 11-12 but sometimes have a small snack at 10) and then try not to eat after 7-8 (depending on how things go with the kids sometimes I don't get a chance to eat until after 7)
-I take baby aspirin every other day
-RePHresh every 3 days from end of AF to O I've only done it once so far as today is 6 days since the end of AF
-Folic acid daily but no other vitamins
-Frequent release with DH we have missed one day and only one of those releasing was having sex and I have had one O since the end of AF but don't plan on anymore
-Plan to attempt 2DBO 1DBO and on O. But plan to have DH release once in the morning before attempt. Will also both have hot bath before.
How does this look? Any suggestions or do you think we are really hurting our chances of conceiving or not doing enough?
If I were you, I'd start BD tonight and continue until a temp spike indicates O has happened. I would also either get your dh to do a compressed frequent release to lower his sperm count (4 days of abstinence isn't going to do that) or use a combination of rephresh (maybe 1/2 an applicator a day) and jump and dump and hope that does the trick. Personally, I wouldn't do all 3 or you might lower his sperm count too much - but it depends on how quickly you want to get pregnant.
Are you on the IG diet?
So ladies, looks like af has reared her ugly head again - I thought she was gone, but she's come back :(. I do have that appointment tomorrow, but now I don't know if I should cancel since af may not be gone yet. Will they still be able to give me an all-clear if I'm still bleeding?
Oh, and I said it in a PM, but YAYAYAYAYAYAY for O arriving, OutofTheBlue!!!! :pinksperm:
Jamie - I think your attempt looks great!
Yep, my DH has been a stay at home dad since DS #2 was born and we have 4DS now. It was a decision we made due to the fact I had a local job and make more money. We would be using his income for daycare and so we decided he would stay at home. I do not have to worry about my children at all. Never have to drop them off crying or wonder if they are being taken care of. It works out so wonderfully for us. I hope your DH loves it as much as mine does.
What is a compressed frequent release? Should we use the 4 day abstinence sample or have him release that and then use the next batch?
If you would not do all three which would be the best chances of conceiving? I guess since I am using the RePHresh, I have to include that one. So the JAD or the compressed frequent release?
I am on the IG Diet, but not strict on it. Little to no salt, hardly ever eat sweets, never have breakfast, eat plain rice cakes all the time, on calcium and magnesium citrate, follic acid, not a big meat eater, low fat foods, and so on. I was strict in the beginning, but with 5 meat eaters, it was way too hard.
I am also thinking of using natural progestrone cream after I know I Oed. Maybe this might help?
That is awesome it is definitely nice to feel completely comfortable when away from your kids. Sometimes my DH jokes that he will become a stay at home dad when I'm a CPA and make good money. But I honestly don't think he could do it. He is wonderful with our kids but he is also a busy body who loves to spend money on anything and everything and would have to go somewhere at least once a day (and usually not a productive somewhere like the grocery store). It would probably end up costing us money for him to stay home. We had a big ice storm last January that kept everyone locked in their homes for nearly a week and I was fine because it didn't feel too different to me but he said he was going to go insane. That being said as of now I am very lucky because when I do work (it's be intermittent the last year) my sister watches me kids at our home so I don't have to leave them and I don't worry and DH get off of work at 2:30 each day.
DH needs to abstain for 7-10 days for it to lower his sperm count enough to sway girl, which is why I recommended compressed frequent release. For that, you get dh to release as much as possible (2-3 times a day) for a day or two before your attempt. You could even just have him release twice first on the day you want to start BD, probably, if you want to get started. You can find more out here:
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/tryi...ff-o-12-a.html
Lots of women get pregnant while doing frequent release, rephresh and jump and dump (check out Zanacal's successful girl sway for a good example), but for me I found I wasn't able to get pregnant until I dropped rephresh last time. I think that as you get older (DH and I are 37) it is possible to do too much to lower sperm count. If you're not in a rush to get pregnant and want a sway you can be proud of, do all 3 and maybe you'll get lucky. You can always drop something next month if you need to try again. For me, I'm definitely not going to do JAD this month, and I think if I use rephresh at all it will be sparingly.
I know nothing about natural progesterone cream, but hopefully someone else can help.
You know my DH does go places every day. He has to shuttle our 4 DS's everywhere, and he does end up some days not making much progress on the housework, but he loves doing what he does. I am jealous a lot of the time too. I would love to stay home or at least I think so. We will see...maybe he will get a big paying job and I can stay home LOL!
We have been TTC for over 1 year and a half, with no luck. So I want to get pregnant like a year and a half ago LOL!!!
Well this is my first month with RePHresh. I tried Replens, but I think I used too much. So I thought with the 3 day window I would use less and not obsess with it as much. How much should I use since last night I used an applicator?
Can we still start tonight if DH releases many time before tonight? and the RePHresh I should not need that should I?
I might do all three and definitely check out Zanacal's sway. Is there a post to it?
Oh, and guess what I am a Dream Member now!!! What does that involve? I get to see more posts? is there a chat room?