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If we are overweight by a good bit, can we really over do it until we get into a healthy weight range? That won't mess up my cycle, right? Like eating way under limits and exercising an hour a day 5 days a week? Just until I get to my recommended weight???
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Atomic has said she can't always check the support threads, so I would post a separate thread for this if you want her input, Lissastick.
Personally, I don't think you should ever be eating way under limits to lose weight. You can mess up ovulation even if you still have some to lose, and you can really mess up your metabolism and end up making it even harder to lose weight if you make your body think it's starving (big difference between starvation and sending the signal resources aren't plentiful).
You don't need to be a certain weight to get a girl. Going to extremes will only hurt you in the long run. I remember you posted that you are recovering from an eating disorder. If swaying is really messing with your head maybe you should consider just swaying with a single attempt and exercise, and not worrying about the diet at all except to stay vegetarian (which is still a decent sway). Your health is more important than a sway diet!
Makes sense. Thanks for the response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erin514
I don't even know if I want to continue TTC at the moment. It seems like I am going through my second chemical pregnancy in a row. I am emotionally raw and drained.
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Oh no, I'm so sorry! It sounds like you really haven't had the easiest go of it so far. :( I really hope things improve, whatever you decide.
I'm not even sure it was a positive test now. A friend said she saw a line, but, my husband says he swears he couldn't see anything. A new test is negative and my period is starting to be full-on...I'm just going to pretend like nothing bad happened.
Yesterday I did well on the L.E. diet. I exercised on an empty stomach and didn't eat until 4pm (I wake up at like 1pm, though).
Yesterday I had chow mein noodles and 1 1/2 veggie egg rolls. And then homemade tortilla chips and cheese with hot sauce and that's it! I'm pretty sure I was under the limit, but, I think one or two days of that is ok.
I wasn't that hungry yesterday!
I think the exercising is helping me not to snack!
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No, I don't want you guys going under the limits because the LE Diet is meant to be a safe pre-preganncy diet.
You can cut back as low as 1200-1500 cals but need that 40-50 g protein and 30-60 g fat because we are aiming at a safe food intake in preparation for pregnancy.
Most days I eat enough, and sometimes more than enough. But, recently, for one or two days, I'm under. I just don't understand how a couple of days being under will screw things up that bad. When most days I eat enough...Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
But I would welcome an explanation as to why I cannot go under even one or two days out of the week. I am here to learn!
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So we are not supposed to eat carbs and protein in the same meal? A veggie burger (made from pea protein or rice and mushroom) on a whole wheat bun, is a no no?
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Heading back from a two week vacation. Did pretty good the first week then the last week I totally blew it. Ready to get back on the le diet tomorrow!
One or two days is not a dealbreaker. BUT. What I find is that 1-2 days ends up being 3-4 or more and the whole point of this is to be safe before pregnancy. So please aim to hit the limits daily and then if something goes wrong on occasion, it's not going to be harmful to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lissastick
You can have protein and carbs in the same meal. It is only that blue swayers HAVE to do that. Pink swayers can of course have both protein and carbs in the same meal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lissastick
LE Diet is really, really way easier than you think it is.
People tell me that I have a mind that complicates things! Haha!!Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
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Help. What to do? Some friends have just invited me and my family to grill dinner. They don't know I don't eat meat and I don't want to tell them. Should I eat a little bit of their meat-dinner or tell them beforehand? Maybe it dosen't hurt to eat a little bit just this evening.
I guess you could use this as a 'cheat' / 'night off' opportunity :) Doubt it would hurt at all tbh!! It might be better than having to explain why you dont want meat. Unless you tell them you're trying out being a vegetarian for a month :) good luck and enjoy your evening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsister
Morning: coffee with Splenda and cream
Lunch: salad
Dinner: doing a little bit of a cheat and getting sushi. Getting the California roll and cucumber roll!
I would just eat a little meat and eat more of the sides that are girl friendlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsister
How many calories is considered a snack? Is there a limit? Sometimes before my first meal I add 3 tsp skimmed milk in my coffee which is 6 kcal. Should I consider this a snack and thus just drink the coffee black?
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I think if your having it with milk it counts as a snack, black does not count as a snack! XQuote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsister
Tonight's snack for me is Champagne and pistachio nuts :-)
RE the grill, I seriously wouldn't worry. Often no one notices what you eat so just fill your plate with salads and sides etc and then a small bit of your favourite protein
Have a bit of meat. It won't hurt anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsister
I'm on a Caesar salad rampage ... Having it around 3/4 Times .. hope it's ok, running out of ideas, hope I get pregnant this month missing my breakfasts!!!
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Joining in here...
I also wouldn't worry much about the grill. I would either choose to eat mostly sides with a small piece of meat, or to make a cheat day out of it.
I have been having coffee with a bit of skim milk and cinnamon every morning. I'm not worried about it raising my blood sugar much.
Are any of you noticing any mood changes while on the diet? I was previously on medication for anxiety/PTSD. I also had depression at that time (after experiencing trauma and loss), but I haven't had mood problems for a few years. Since starting the LE diet a few weeks ago, I'm noticing some depression and quite a lot of anxiety creeping back in. I tried to go vegan about a year ago, and had to stop that after a couple of weeks for the same reason: it was having a serious impact on my mental health. I went right back to normal after resuming eating animal based foods.
So far it's manageable, albeit annoying, and I'm definitely not willing to stop the diet over it, but I guess I'm wondering what specifically could be causing the issue, and if there is anything I can do within the confines of the diet to fix the problem. I'm not exercising yet, because our first attempt probably won't be until September and I don't want to lose too much weight (I'm 5'0 and 105 pounds right now), but I do think that will help, if atomic recommends it for me (I will probably be receiving my plan soon). I'm mostly eating: white bread with grated cheese melted on it, fruit/veg (kale, apples, strawberries, broccoli, grapes), small serving of pasta with sauce and grated cheese, margarine, corn oil, puffed wheat cereal (unfortified) with rice milk, coconut water, sometimes skim milk, chocolate bars/candy, white bagels with cream cheese, low sodium corn chips with a bit of salsa, diet coke. I'm adding iodized salt occasionally (I'm going to try to buy an iodine supplement later today), and I'm talking 1000mcg (?) of folic acid twice a day. I'm cheating a bit on the weekends (for example, I had a few popcorn shrimp and lots of french fries this past Sunday).
Apart from the depression/anxiety, my personality seems to be changing a bit....I am usually the boss of the family, and these days I am kind of just going along to get along, if that makes sense. My husband is calling all the shots, he loves it. :p
It kind of makes me wonder if this could be one of the reasons I haven't had a girl yet: if I need a high nutrient diet to be at my optimum mental health, it makes sense that I would always eat like that, and then of course I would always have boys...hmmmm
Am sure others will have views on this but if your hungry, which I suppose you should be and your eating low calorie diet it is bound to have some impact on your mood. I have noticed subtle changes in the sense am more snappy and less tolerant. Am usually such a positive person but not conceiving has been a challenge, I am usually great at finding an explanation for things that help me maintain a balanced outlook but I am finding this eludes me with my inability to conceive. I also think part of the impact on my mood is the time consuming nature of this process, which ultimately may not result in a girl anyway. It is trying to fit exercise in, while looking after three young children, trying to inconvenience my dh and children as much as possible. Not eating my usual, having to plan meals or if I go outcry and think what can I eat. Trying to plan when to have sex, then the hell of the2 ww, only to not be successful. I think it would be strange if dealing with all that did not impact negatively on our mental state? Probably just my personality and others that are much more relaxed and why I will probably end up with another boy despite best efforts! X
Freudian slip above, trying to inconvenience my dh and children as little as possible ha ha!
Coffee, I recently added it to my sway. I hate the stuff but gradually coming around. I have to have milk in it, so struggling to fit it in, does it really have to be three cups per day? I would need to do morning, lunch and dinner, am struggling with one cup at the minute! X
This is the third time I've been on the LE diet and it definitely affects my mood. I'm usually very positive and laid back but am far snappier on the diet. My gut feeling is that it's the lack of fat and protein. What we do eat will get used for essential maintenance and repair leaving no extra. Also I would usually take a large array of vitamins and minerals, which I'm not taking on LE, some of which definitely affect my mood. Interestingly I am finding the exercise to be helpful for my mental state, which I've obviously heard of before but as someone who hates exercise, hadn't experienced before!
Serenity, we have had that reported by a minority of people and what we need to do is gradually tweak things so you're feeling better - I would have you up protein to 50-60 g and this will then cut carbs by virtue of getting more cals from your protein, and cut out the super carby things like rice milk in favor of more protein rich skim milk or even full fat.
Thank you to atomic, weezie, and girlieplease for your input. :happy:
OK, I'll up the protein a bit and see if that helps. I just got AF this morning, on CD 28 for the first time in my life (my cycles are usually several days longer), so the intensified mood changes were probably PMS related...I didn't think of that because I didn't expect AF so soon!
On coffee: I'm only having it in the morning so far, but I might add in another one around lunch time at some point. Girlieplease, that might just have to be my new mantra: inconveniencing my DH and children as much as possible! :shemademe:
Serenity funny u wrote that because that's exactly how I feel the last while ... Really really snappy at the kids (usually very chilled), overly anxious and Moody!!!
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How do you guys do this? I'm still waiting for my
Custom plan and haven't officially started but I'm starving. I am so used to eating a ton of protein that I'm having trouble transitioning over. I get so hungry during the day and end up eating stuff I'm not supposed to. And I was on a severely limited diet the past two years having been gestationally diabetic and then having a nursling with crazy food allergies. But I always managed due to high amounts of protein. Any suggestions for a good filling alternative--I've also bumped up my exercise significantly so I'm even more hungry
Babs, your plan is done and has been sent into tech support to be reformatted in downloadable version and posted for you (I don't do that part).
You're going to have to tweak the diet. It's not gonna work for you as it is written and you may need to go up to 60-70 g protein, 50-60 g fat. Your situation is difficult but not impossible, we've done it before but we will have to work together over the next couple weeks to come up with some things you can stick to. Rice and potatoes will be your friends, and the good news is they are much better tolerated for potential insulin resistance than you might think.
If you post in your forum (the same spot where your questionnaire is) and give me a rundown of what you're eating we can get started figuring it all out.
Sorry to hear that you're experiencing anxiety too, amelia, but glad to know I'm not alone. Hope you feel better soon. :happy:
Babs, I think you just kind of get used to it. Easing into it helped me a lot. I'm sure it will get easier for you in no time. :happy: Sounds like atomic has it all sorted out for you.
We went out for breakfast at Smitty's as a family late this morning, and I had no idea what to eat, so I had pancakes with margarine and syrup, and one egg. Ohhhhh, that egg was heavenly. It disappeared in five seconds flat and I had to hold myself back from picking up the plate and licking more of the yoke off of it. I kind of wish I would have, actually...
It's amazing how undernourished I feel already (after about 3 weeks to a month of doing this diet). I was in the vitamin aisle at the drugstore recently, and kept having visions of opening up the bottles and pouring some of the vitamins down my throat. I usually feel like a strong mama lion who has eaten her fill of all the best meat. Now I feel like a starving mama lion who can't catch a break. I watch my DH eat roast beef sandwiches and feel totally jealous.
In other news, I've started adding alcohol to my sway. My DH usually drinks a couple of beers every night after the kids go to bed; now we're switching off nights. I giggle when I think about the craziness GD is bringing to my life...soon my DH will come home from work to find me drinking on the exercise machine, drops of lavender oil unfurling their heavenly scent around me as I sweat profusely, nearly passing out from low blood sugar and a lack of nutrients... :giggle:
Hahaha! You make me laugh! It gets easier ladies! This is my second time swaying and it really does become second nature over time. I find going vegetarian to be much easier when you eat meat substitutes. Not sure if you are in the US or not, but I really like MorningStar veggie burgers and crumbles (like ground beef). I put the crumbles on salad or on tortillas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenity
Make sure to eat vegetables and fruit (whatever you want). This will help with nutrients. Think of it this way, you'd have to eat a mountain of broccoli or berries to equal the amount of nutrients in a roast beef sandwich!
I also allow myself to have a sweet treat with dinner. Lately I've been liking a low calorie ice cream sandwich that is super yummy! It fits in my totals and makes me feel like I'm being naughty!
If I feel hungry in the middle of the day, I have another cup of coffee with a splash of creamer on ice. While the creamer may spike blood sugar temporarily, the body will burn through this rather quickly unlike a traditional snack. Plus, coffee (even decaf) is a great appetite suppressant!!
You ladies are doing great! Keep up the good work!!
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Thanks XXforhubby! :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by XXforhubby
On my "foods to avoid" said Quorn, which is the name of my absolute favorite meat substitute. Are they ok to eat frequently or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by XXforhubby
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I was under the impression Quorn was ok to have. Maybe start a new thread to askAtomic specifically.
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Pretty much off the LE diet a day before I ovulated. Went back to snacking more and stopped exercising every day.
I'm burning out. I think I am going to stop my sway. I am also thinking I don't want another child after all...
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Quorn is fine in dietary amounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wantanother2017
If it's messing with your head this much, drop it. It isn't worth it. Stay vegetarian and exercise if you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lissastick