Yes, good cramps!! I just have to focus on that and ignore the insane bloating. :) Twins would be awesome! They run in my family. My sister has twins (without the use of fertility meds).
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Yes, good cramps!! I just have to focus on that and ignore the insane bloating. :) Twins would be awesome! They run in my family. My sister has twins (without the use of fertility meds).
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Started feeling better after getting up and moving around. Still had to get the kids ready and I dropped them off. Now waiting for dh to get ready for attempt number 2.....
Ashfind OMG 😮😮😮 my vajajay is literally shuddering at the thought of that much bding 😣😂 I am in complete awe of your and dh's libido!!
Skyblue 2 attempts for blue is still good! It's the diet that makes the biggest difference and every other smaller things help. You have a great shot at blue! I only had 2 attempts with ds2 and exactly what yours are - pm of day before o and morning of o (coincidentally that's going to be my timing again as I doubt me or dh will be up for another bd tonight....) Maybe you could try and initiate a random bd today and that way you're covered for a later o?
Lola and I want4kids I'm not completely sold on the 'implantation dip' as apparently a secondary surge of estrogen is the cause - hence why even non pregnant charts can show a dip. In saying that I've seen on this site some ladies charts who have a big dip (some almost to coverline or below) and go on to get a bfp so maybe there is something to it?
Enjoy your vacation maxim!!! Are you bding e4d? What cd did you o last cycle again?
Momamia now that's what I'm talkin bout!!!!!!!!✊✊✊ woohoo what awesome news!!! So happy for you right now 😄
I'm also experiencing a lot of action in my ovaries atm.... building up to o for sure, should definitely see a spike tomorrow morning eeeeeeeeekk!!!! Now here's hoping hubby hurries up so I can put this second attempt away!!
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That's great Moma!! How awesome would twin girls be?! Fx so hard that everything continues to go well :)
Ash-yay for being in the 2WW now!! I just can't seem to stop poas haha :) I need to take pbn's advice & give it a rest for a little while. It may have faded a bit, but not like I expected. Maybe it's not significant...
Here's the OPK from this evening-thought the test line would be much lighter than now. I'm probably obsessing over nothing...
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Lola couldn't resist haha mine is clearly lighter but I hadn't held it in for long so I'm going to hold it in and try again at 9p like last night!
Pbn for real mine is sore I hate that he's leaving but I get a weeks much needed break. And I have not had the big O any of those attempts �� So maybe that'll help in my sway! I do know that's a huge difference between ttc with my other 4 boys. But this is tmi sorry his semen is potent and has put me into early labor with all 4 boys and I'm wondering if that's why I'm having so much cramping it seriously feels like contractions but I wouldn't see how that could be possible.
Just seeing this! That's crazy I'll post mine tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by Lolabelle
Wow lola that is still really dark.... you must've had a really strong surge... I thought I remembered something about getting a whole lot of pos opks could indicate pcos tendencies?? Don't freak out or anything because I'm not sure just that something is jogging my memory about 'excessice' pos opks.... can you get a pic with just one test from each day and if they're not marked with cd can you mark it?
Ash anything different can only be good I say (as in no big o) :) and wowsers with that cramping!! Maybe you're releasing two eggs?!
Oh got attempt number 2 done and dusted. Me and hubby will see how we feel tonight as to whether we'll try again or not :)
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Well... yay pbn for hubby not being stubborn ��.
I have read about twins with conceiving right after iud removal. Hubby would be over the moon... me on the other hand a bit a bit scared!
Pbn-I came across PCOS when researching and already was alarmed, but I don't have any other symptoms except for sharp pains on right side during O that lasts several days, but no weight gain, facial hair etc. Could the dark lines have something to do with my recent CP or maybe that I was nursing & recently stopped? No clue, but want to see it fade. I've never had issues getting pregnant & this was my 1st CP. I'm sad to say that I don't have all my tests organized to line them up :(
That's ok lola (about pic) but how many pos opks have you had in a row now (days wise)? Might be worth creating a thread as I've seen this several times so you'll get some feedback or explanation maybe? Also its not uncommon for some ladies to have a high lh reading even after o so its awesome you were temping to catch the spike :) 3-4 days of pos opks isn't uncommon apparently but for some reason I thought you were closer to 6??
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I'm on day 4 of pos OPKs-and maybe 1 day of pretty dark ones-may post a thread-thanks!
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Here's mine Lola my control is noticeably lighter this time the two above the last were really diluted.
My strongest surge was with fmu this am. So do you technically ovulate after the surge is gone? Or within 36 he of the start of the surge? I know we've had plenty of attempts but the ttc freak in me is saying if he was home we could have a couple more attempts
Pbn, so glad you are feeling better! :) I am so excited that this cycle is going perfectly for you!! :)
Ash, I have the same issue with my DH's semen. He seems to have the same libido as your dh. It's definitely a struggle to keep him away, lol!!
Twin girls would be a freaking dream come true!!! Dh wants them so badly, lol! I think he'd give them whatever they wanted. Haha!!
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Within 12-72 hours of very first pos opk ash. You cant rely on an opk going negative to know if you've oed or not as lh takes longer to leave the system in some moreso than others. Opks only confirm a lh surge has taken place but temping and seeing a temp spike is really the only way to know that ovulation has actually happened :)
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Ugh hoping to see that temp spike in the morning!! I was browsing new posts and didn't see a due December... will the first BFP here get to create the group? How cool!!
Yay Pbn. You got your two attempts in. That's awesome. I m glad you are a little better.
Ash, I think you got good attempts in.[emoji7][emoji7]You are in 2WW. Wow
I stopped POAS a day after solid smiley since all my cheap opks were finished. [emoji51]Now I think I should have kept a back up. [emoji4]
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Skyblue I don't test after a solid smiley either. Are you 1dpo today or oing? Its so hard to remember with all these different time zones 😕
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My solid smiley was day before yesterday afternoon. It's bn 48hrs+. Since we skipped BD last night.Quote:
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Ok so going by the average which is oing the day after pos opk you'd be 1dpo! So you are definitely in the 2ww!!!! 🎉 🎉
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Do you think bding now will make any difference honestly. I keep thinking that we made a huge mistake not doing the last night attempt.Quote:
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I get my periods in 28 days mostly. Could that mean my O may have already passed?
I can't even be excited now. Bummer.
Thankyou for being so positive though. You have a gift of cheering up everyone. Hugs.
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Skyblue honestly you have two extremely well timed attempts and IMO couldn't do much better. The thing is, if you oed yesterday then a 3rd attempt last night would have made no difference as the egg will have already been fertilised or it would be very unlikely it will have survived long enough to be fertilised. The third attempt is really just a piece of mind attempt in case o is late as such. You should be very excited with your attempts, I think you have this in the bag! (And I'm not just trying to cheer you up, I would be honest if I thought otherwise :) ) Hugs right back at ya!!
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My ovaries feel like they're going to explode!!! I'm so bloated and taunt there right now 😀😝😄
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You are too sweet for words. I m still thinking about the 3rd attempt since that didn't happen. Also Atomic advised me to have the 3rd attempt soon for the exact reason you gave which is late O. The thing is that Dh is working late and I don't know if we will be able to get that attempt in. He had to work tonight of all the nights.Quote:
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I guess we will see in ten days now. Can't Thank all the lovely ladies here. Fx fx for all. You will be entering the 2WW tomorrow. Right. GL with your attempt tonight. Hope you are doing better now.
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Lol. Like I mentioned to Momma before. These are good cramps. Right. Fx fx fx.Quote:
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Don't think I'll bother with an attempt tonight as I'm pretty sure my 2 attempts have me covered. I'm still abit crook and so tired after a bad nights sleep 😕 if I don't see a temp rise in the morning I'll dtd again tomorrow :)
Try and put your attempts out of mind. If you think you would feel better about things try and get a chance to bd late tonight by doing all the work so to speak! Otherwise try and take comfort that you have two very well timed attempts (I said in an earlier post the exact attempts that my ds2 was conceived from:) ) Thank you for all your well wishes and support in turn xxoo I'm loving this 2ww group and just wish we could all end up in the same ddg!!
Edited to add: yes!!!!! Great cramps!!!!
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I felt those yesterday. Today is milder. I had a smile on my face yesterday. Yay Cramps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pbn3
This is our first cycle so I am excited but I know that it can go either way. Having you all here made it a lot less stressful honestly. I m so thankful that I posted here. I had no idea what the post was about. I just saw everyone getting excited about their O getting close and I was on cd 14 and thought awesome. [emoji4][emoji4][emoji4][emoji41]
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It's so much easier and less stressful to share this part of the journey :) I stopped taking part in 2ww's for quite awhile there but it feels so good to be back! I still remember when I first joined and felt so clueless and surrounded by wonderful, patient, seemed-to-be all knowing women 😀 to offer advice and support. Then as I grew in confidence and knowledge I tried to become one of those helpers as I remember how thankful I felt ❤
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Ooops meant to say I checked my cervix while showering just before and it is high and rock hard 😀😀😀😀 if I don't o today I'll eat my.... I want to say hat but I don't own one lol. I am still on cloud 9 about how good this cycle ended up being in all ways 😊
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I can totally understand because I felt so much better when I got answers to my questions. I always imagined this time where I will be ttc and thought I would go nuts. But thanks to you, my sanity was in check. [emoji4]Quote:
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So the cervix needs to be soft if you are Oing. Again I have no idea about that too. What I don't understand is that we have four most fertile days in a month and using advanced opk the right way which is starting at the recommended day based on your cycle, will tell you your high and peak days. So if we are anyway waiting for 12 hours to BD after peak and getting two attempts in may be 3 then why would that not catch the egg? Given the cycles are pretty much regular. Because Af comes 2 weeks afterO.
I only have knowledge about all that I read however I know that you all know a lot more
Based on experience so don't want to sound dumb here. Just curious.
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Even with perfect timing an egg will only be fertilised something like 25% max of the time and that is for those under 35 with no known issues. Then out of that 1 in 4 pregnancies will fail to implant or will miscarry down the track. By bding at peak reading you are getting at least one attempt in however many may follow at least 12-48 prior ovulation giving you the best chance by having 'fresh but ready' sperm to meet egg (I'm referring to the peak reading on dual hormone digi ones here). Sperm can live up to 5 days or so in some cases but those are the best case scenarios. I've never personally fallen pregnant from anything other than 1-o or o day attempt (not sure which one sealed the deal) that I know of.
When I talk about cervix position and texture its just another 'tool' to guess ovulation is or has taken place just like cm. We cannot know for sure when we ovulate and when our cervix or cm changes in relation to that unless we were under 24 hour observation with constant ultrasounds to confirm egg has been released. All I know is as a trend from 2 years of on and off charting that my cervix goes high and soft then hardens, cm will turn from watery to sticky creamy and this corresponds with a temp spike. I'm not sure when the cervix hardens and cm changes that I have oed, I use it as a sign that I should have or am in that 24hr period of temp checking. I hope all this make sense and please let me know if I haven't answered your question. I myself have come abit confused and think I'll start a thread to ask atomic about the recommended bd pattern for blue. If eod sways strongly blue I'm wondering why that isn't the recommendation?? Or eod plus attempt at pos opk? I'll let you know what I hear back or when I've created it so you can subscribe to it to see the answers :)
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Skyblue I've created a thread about timing for blue in the forum ttc natural - ttc boy. Sorry I just don't know how to link through tapatalk... it will be there in the new threads section too so you should find it there :)
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Pbn3 - sorry you're not feeling well! It is a good sway sign though! I'm not sold on the dip either as I never had a big one with my other pregnancies.
Lolabelle - Atomic asked for DH to 'self' release for 7-10 days before our attempt for that reason (daily release sways pink)
Momamia - glad things are going well!
Maxim - enjoy the holiday! Hope you get that surge soon.
Skyblue - Hope your attempts were enough. Just trust that it happened that way for a reason and the egg is caught
AFM - testing in the morning!!! I have some signs, but don't want to read too much into them or get too excited. My cervix is high but hard and I think it should be soft?
Yay I want4kids!!! Can't wait!! It's so exciting that we have our first hpt about to happen 😀 fx fx fx!!! I would not rely on cervix position texture or cm when it comes to the 2ww to give any clues, I've been sure so many times because of something different and reading similar stories on the internet that I should've been pregnant almost every cycle lol. I really do hope though that your 'signs' are right on the mark (I absolutely believe we all have some inner intuition) and we see a bfp in the mext few days!!!
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Ash-I expected to see mine fade like yours, but think I'm going to stop worrying and see what happens this cycle! It has me curious though, so can't seem to stop POAS lol.
Moma-Fx for girl twins for you!!! That would be my dream scenario too!!!
Skyblue-your 2 attempts sound perfectly planned-fx for you!
Iwant4kids-eeeeek, almost testing time! Cmon 1st BFP!
Pbn-thanks for your never-ending support for all of us and your valuable insight! You have been so wonderful in helping others...it is sooo your time! Everything crossed for you!!!
I pray that all of us will be in the December ddg!! How awesome that would be...in a brand new thread!! :)
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I am no longer feeling confident about this cycle I didn't have a big temp spike this am so assuming I still haven't Od and dh is gone so I won't have another attempt at it 😢. Still feeling cramping. 10am today will be 48hours since my first pos opk so surely by tomorrow I should have a temp spike. Im currently 17dpo and generally start af every 28 days. Is it normal to have such a short time between O and af?
Ash-I don't know enough about charting yet, but don't lose hope! Fx that you O soon if you haven't already!!!
So I just signed up for fertility friend this chart seems easier to share than on my ovia app I think I got it onto my sig. thought itd be easier to see a raise in temp on the actual computer than on my phone haha I'm obsessed! Obviously no temp raise on phone or computer lol.... ok I have thrown away my opk sticks for this month and I have cleaned up my "set up" in the bathroom I guess only thing to do now that hubby is gone away is hope we catch the egg today would be nice all the rest is out of my control. I feel like I'm ready to move onto next month :tissue:
probably thinking way to much into this since its not been a full 48 hours yet but wondering if such a change in diet and the excess exercise has caused me to not ovulate.... I'm a pessimistic worrier if you haven't figured that out..
Thankyou Pbn. It makes perfect sense and yes you answered all my questions once again [emoji1303].You are amazing. I just saw the thread you created. I m sure that will help a lot of blue swayers. I know it's eod and then 3 attempts at positive opk. But I am scared to do unprotected before solid smiley.[emoji51]Quote:
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Hi ladies! Trying to keep up with the comments while I'm away. Why does unprotected before positive opk sway either direction??
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Hi Maxim. How are you doing? Did you test again?Quote:
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I am not sure if everyone here thinks that it sways either way but it's just me and my silly thinking where I am still stuck up on a few things from Shettles. So I wanted to stick to the attempts after peak reading on dual surge opk.
I am sure Pbn would have the right answer to this question.
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