Still crossing fingers and toes for you Mrs. E.Quote:
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Still crossing fingers and toes for you Mrs. E.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsEnglish
CRAP, I think I'm pregnant! LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by MrsEnglish
DO NOT just take Pregnitude without a valid reason!!!! Do you have PCOS?Quote:
Originally Posted by ManchesterMrs
This! Me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
So funny
[QUOTE=atomic sagebrush;979020]DO NOT just take Pregnitude without a valid reason!!!! Do you have PCOS?
Hi atomic, I am actually just taking myo insolitol as couldn’t get hold of Pregnitude. I took myo last time I was ttc - as well as loads of other interventions like acupuncture/preseed etc. It definitely seems to help regulate my cycle - just like vitex did before ds1.
I think with my irregular cycles etc I might have PCOS tendencies. And I am on cycle 5 with a short luteal so I feel I have nothing to lose. Plus it seems to sway pink.
Well, actually you DO have something to lose if you're taking it without needing to since it's caused a lot of trouble for people when they took it without needing to.
How much weight do you have to spare? CAn you give me a brief writeup of the timeline in which your LP got short? Has it been short all the time or only since dieting (and I"m sure you've written this up in this thread already but it would save me a lot of time if you did it again)
There are two reasons why your cycle gets wonky. One of them is PCOS tendencies. But the opposite is from having too low hormone levels and this happens to people on LE Diet. Myoinositol lowers hormone levels which is great for PCOS, but for those who are having too low hormone levels, it's throwing gasoline on a fire. and it's totally possible to go from having PCOS tendencies with too high hormone levels, to the opposite problem. So we need to be sure about what is really going on here before just starting that up.
Omg I’m so nauseous almost gonna throw up! Im also very tired,can sleep everywhere a very deep nap. I thought the side effect from clomid are only in the 5days you take them. I’m 2dpo i hope those are conception symptoms!
I had short luteal phase when I was last trying to conceive (the few cycles after my failed cycle at Genesis). It got longer by one day every month until I conceived. This time it has been post partum and my first luteal phase was 6 days, my second luteal was 7days, my third was 9 days and my last one was 8 days. I have also had late ovulation (days 24 and 23 respectively) apart from my first round on Femara where I ovulated day 17. I don’t think it is caused by the diet because I have been on the diet since November when I was still breastfeeding a couple of times a day. I didn’t get my first period until January.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
I think I have PCOS tendencies as I have got pregnant once on vitex and once on myo inositol and they do seem to regulate my cycles (vitex especially). I definitely have lazy ovaries which is why I’ve upped my Femara to 7.5mg.
If I am not pregnant this cycle I am restarting vitex.
Thanks atomic for any advice you have xx
No, you can have side effects from Clomid at other points of high hormones in the cycle you have taken it. You can't be getting pregnancy symptoms until more like 7 DPO or even later so this is a Clomid thing and not conception-related (although you can of course be pregnant, just that is not what is causing the symptoms.)Quote:
Originally Posted by onebigwish
Diet affects you more the longer you have been on it.
Please don't restart vitex. It's gotten terrible results. if you must take the myoinositol, your call to make, but please just do that and not the vitex.
AF arrived today :(
I'm not going to do Clomid this cycle. I'll just try my best with diet and exercise and hope that's enough to make me ovulate on my own.
Aww, bummer. I'm sorry it wasn't the month. Let me know how I can help for next month!
Really sorry Mrs E. I thought this might be your month. Good idea to give Clomid a rest - I am going to do the same re Femara if I don’t conceive this cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsEnglish
Have you thought about trying myo insolitol? It seems to work well for PCOS. Wishing you all the best xx
Hi all! I've been following this thread for a while and I'm hoping to start my clomid soon! My question is, does anyone have any experience with 25mg? How effective was it and how harsh were the side effects?
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Sorry Mrs English, what a shame. Cheering you on this cycle!
Hi SuttonBailey! I have only used 50mg but other than a bit more moodiness and not so great sleep I didn't find any harsh side effects from the clomid. Hope it works out for you.
Onebigwish started her first cycle with 25mg but upped it to 50mg after a few days because she felt like it wouldn‘t do anything. Maybe you can send her a pm;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SuttonBailey
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Hi girls!
Sorry af arrived mrs English!
Suttonbailey I'm doing 25mg this cycle. I'll let you know how I go.
Atomic I have a question about how to count cycle days to start clomid- I started af yesterday (Wednesday in Australia) at 1 pm but as always it was only light to begin with but got heavier in the night. Today (Thursday) is technically cd2 and af is medium to heavy- do I count today as cd1 or 2?
I plan to start clomid on cd3 so Friday night or should I wait til Saturday night so I have had 3 full days of af- does it matter in the long run?
Thanks in advance!
Kittendreams just in case atomic doesn't answer in time I thought I'd comment. I'd be counting Thursday (today) as cd1 especially if it was just light yesterday and started after lunch. Pretty much they say first full day of flow is cd1 (if it starts full flow in afternoon or evening you'd make cd1 the following day). It is one of those things though that have differing opinions. I just think better to be closer to cd4 than cd2 when starting if that makes sense [emoji6] (if doing days 3-7)
Oh and you'd mark the light bleeding as spotting on your chart so it doesn't make yesterday cd1 [emoji4]
Hi Atomic!
Need some advice on the fertility diet. You kindly recommended I up my intake of eggs to help keep on/put a bit of weight back on & help improve luteal phase. So I have been including an egg every second or so day, but the last few times I am having a horrible response. What I imagine (and sorry for tmi) ibs would be like. I don't think I should include them for awhile as I think it is more detrimental than good. Such a shame I love eggs.
I have been having about 60g of avocado once every few days, and I do salmon once/week, should I maybe just do salmon twice per/week in place of the eggs?
Kitten - Yea that's tricky and I've had a similar thing... I do Clomid CD 3-7 and I have a pretty light CD1, heavy CD2 and I start Clomid on the evening of CD3. I used to start AF during the night and wake up in the morning to a full but light flow, but since swaying & Clomid, my AF has changed and now usually starts mid-morning. It starts very light in the morning and then slowly picks up throughout the day to "full flow". So yea - I do count that first day as CD1. But also my CD2 has also always been my heaviest day and that still seems to be the case. My doctor says you should count CD1 as the first day that you have "bleeding" that is anything more than just spotting, if that bleeding starts before 5 pm. If it's after 5 pm, then the following day should be CD1. Like Pbn said though I think you'd be fine if it's technically CD4 when you start it since you can start it up CD5, and since the bleeding didn't start until 1 pm maybe you'd be better to wait until Saturday.
I would count it as CD 2 since it definitely seemed that yesterday was part of AF and not spotting at the end of the LP.Quote:
Originally Posted by kittendreams
My rule of thumb is, if you think it's AF, then it is. If it seems like it's the tail end of your LP with spotting (so like it goes on several days, starts DPO 10 instead of DPO 13-14, that kind of thing) then don't count those days as CD 1, 2, etc. But if your period ALWAYS starts off 14 DPO with a day of spotting (esp. if hte spotting is fairly noticeable/all day) and then goes to period the next day and that is your normal cycle, please count the previous day (spotting) as CD 1. Your normal cycle can tell you a lot about what is going on.
Good news is it really doesn't matter anyway, the Clomid can be started CD 2 or 4 or even 5 and still be effective.
Yes please leave the eggs out in that case, have another serv. of salmon and some extra full fat dairy, or avocado, or coconut oil instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by emshe
Thanks so much Pbn, abc and Atomic!
I don't spot as such its just a bit light to begin with (always has been) but I still need a tampon iykwim lol and I have full on cramping etc so Wednesday was my cd1. I think I will take my first dose tonight (Friday) and see how I go- if it doesn't work this month and af starts midday again ill postpone a day next time.
Thanks again girls you are the best xx
Perfect! Thanks atomicQuote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
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Thanks, I've only been doing so-so with diet and exercise. Bleh.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Just wanted to say: I've been moody as hell this month and still have headaches, so I don't think I can blame Clomid for causing those in the previous months. I wouldn't still be having side effects from Clomid I took last cycle, would I?
I think I'm CD 9 today. I'll update to let you know if I ovulate naturally, if so I'd expect O signs around CD 20.
Oh yes absolutely you can still have side effects the month after stopping the Clomid. Totally!
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Originally Posted by ABC.2606
I have the same problem, normally AF start with a full flow on CD1 but since i took clomid i have spotting since yesterday it also made me have less progesterone and a short LF. I dont know if i should count the spotting as CD1 or nor ?
Hi Suttenbailey, i tried 25 mg of Clomid the first cycle i did not get pregnant so the second month i did 50 mg and got pregnant!
Good luck!
Did you need clomid or only for swaying purposes? I used 50mg first cycle and seems like AF is coming. I’m wondering if you take clomid when you dont need it u dont become pg that fast?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lovelypink
If what you said in the other thread is true, you did NOT have low progesterone OR a short LP. 13 day LP is totally normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by onebigwish
From what you described in the other thread, this is spotting and is not yet CD 1.
No, that's completely untrue. Clomid does not affect people taking it for swaying any differently than those who need it (and in fact, those who are struggling with fertility often still struggle even with the Clomid.)Quote:
Originally Posted by onebigwish
It takes fully fertile couples doing nothing to sway an average of 3-6 months to get pregnant. If you've gotten pregnant the first month out in the past, that was good luck, but it's not a guarantee that you will always get pregnant very quickly. Some months just are not the month...either the egg was a dud, the sperm wasn't healthy or enough of them to make it to the egg, they didn't find each other, or something went wrong very early on. Good luck for next month!
For swaying purpose only!
Meid ik heb nog in het Nederlandse hoekje nog met jou over gehad, hele gesprekken...ben je dat vergeten? :)
Je komt ook niet meer daar geloof ik?
Hey meis! Hahaha serieus ik ben dat totaal vergeten! Nee ik kom niet vaak meer in het nederlandse hoekje. Maar ben echt blij voor je dat je nu zwanger ben! Het is helaas niet gelukt de eerste maand bij mij want ben vandaag keihard ongesteld geworden. Ik had de eerste maand 50mg genomen maar ik wil nu 25 gaan proberen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lovelypink
Hey atomic... Couple of questions... I did Clomid CD3-7 and am on CD9 today. This morning I randomly noticed a good amount of EWCM and did a wondfo OPK and got a fairly dark line for CD9 (not positive, but I normally don't have much of a line until a couple of days before I ovulate). I did an advanced CB as well and it showed "low", but I forgot to use FMU and used SMU instead, and there was only a small amount of it in the cup (sorry TMI!). So maybe not accurate. Just wondering if the EWCM and a darker than normal Wondfo this early might be the effects of the Clomid? In the 3 previous cycles that I've taken Clomid (all CD3-7), I ovulated on CD15. Just got a little worried this morning that O may come early :) I also ate eggs last night and salmon the night before (haven't had much of either lately) so maybe all that just gave me a bit of an estrogen bump? I also had a follicle ultrasound last Thursday that showed about 6 small follicles (plus the one cyst on my right ovary) and my estrogen level was 30 which nurse said is pretty low. So probably unlikely that less than a week later I'd be close to O yea?
I have another follicle ultrasound on Friday so I'll know more then but just curious :) :)
How long can the side effects last?Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Yes Clomid can cause false positive OPK for 3 days after stopping it.
CD 9 is not unusual to get EWCM that day.
Your estrogen can rise really fast when it's time to! I wouldn't bet on you not ovulating within this next week!
Most say one month, but I think it may be a couple cycles. It's all about hormones and those take time to work themselves out (but the good news is this is why it may sway for 1-2 cycles after stopping it.)Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsEnglish
I have an appointment with Gyn tomorrow and hope he prescribes Clomid for me. What can I tell him to get it?
I have it :-) And Famenita. Does anyone know that?