TTC Girl - March 2012

Amari,

I will be in the 2ww on Easter, and I think I will just consider it a cheat day. Probably I'll cut some calories from other meals around then, but I'm sure I'll go over on fat & protein. I love chocolate. Even tho its been confirmed as a trigger food for my migraines, i still eat it sometimes knowing I will suffer! ( haven't touched it on the diet tho)

As for meat... I always say I'm not going to eat it, but at social events if something is calling my name, I sometimes give in and have a little. I doubt a tiny bit of meat could really affect testosterone much. Plus Atomic always says its the overall trend in your diet that sways, not one meal by itself.


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Hi girls, Do not always have time to post, but i read all posts at the end of the day. I just had my OV on CD 16 or 17. It was my first clomid cycle 50 ml. We had dtd every day for 7-10 days. I did not use anything else (gel). I do want to get pg this month, very tired of LE diet, last 20 pounds. My husband hates it. The lowest weight for me 107 pounds. I am 5'2. I was 125-127 pounds when i got pg with my boys. We were dtd every day also, but with clomid i did not had a choice of timing. Since my OV i have been on a very strict LE diet, cann't wait for this to end with a BFPink pregnancy :))) Also, trying hard not to cheat for the next 10 days :( Also, I notice i am losing a lot of hair and my skin looks horrible.

H&D -- Its not likely. The soonest the embryo will implant is cd6. It takes 5 days to become a full blast, and then has to hatch and then implant. Many embryos float around for a while too before they begin to implant. That is why soonest you would see implantation blood is cd6, and that is soon. Most common is cd8-11. The blood needs to be pink or dark brown, not red. Red is a sign of active bleeding.
Most embryos will implant between cd6 and cd9. Some later but it is less common. Never earlier though, it is an impossibility.

And when people say they did not get their bfp til 16dpo, that is most likely not true either. By 14dpo doctors like to see your hcg level near or above 100. Yes there are those with a lower hcg level at 14dpo, but it is likely above 25 and will register on a hpt. So those who say they got there's after 14dpo, got their ovulation all wrong. Many women assume they have 28 days cycles and o on cd14. So when they don't get their bfp til 14 or 15dpo, its usually because they didn't really ovulated til cd17 or something and they are actually getting their bfp on 11dpo. KWIM. With IVF, the common "known" is if you do not get your bfp by 7dp5dt you are 95% out. That is 12dpo. Most girls will get it on either 5, 6 or 7 dp5dt -- so 10, 11 or 12dpo. That is the norm -- so when people say "oh, 12dpo is still too early". Not likely. If you are truly 12 or 13dpo and getting a bfn then you are more than 90% out unless you are the exception to the rule.

PFP, wow that is great knowledge to hear! You know your stuff :)
As much as I love you on the swaying boards, if your heart is really into HT, maybe give it another a shot? That way you are guaranteed the daughter?

Hope N Dreams, a puppy is adorable!! As everyone said, it will be work in the beginning, but eventually it will be fantastic and you will love your new addition! I still think the puppy being born on your grandma's DOB is very special. As for me, I had 3 cats. We got them seperately over a few month's time. Our first two were girl cats, and the last we adopted was a cute boy kitten. I had never had a kitten before so it was an awesome experience. Now he is a 10 year old fat cat :) He is the most cuddly, loving cat ever. So I had this weird hope (and i know this is going to sound verrrry irrational) but since we had 2 Girl cats and then a boy cat, and My mother had two girls and then a boy, I am hoping my life will work in the reverse! Two boys like I have and then my daughter. LOL...how weird is that? I'm sure the order/gender of our cats does not influence my life at all, but I am really hoping for the two boys and 1 girl family.

Easter is my birthday this year, so I'll be pigging out, of course I'm not on diet or anything so it doesn't matter! We'll do the dying the eggs for DS1 and hiding the plastic eggs in yard for him too, and then I may convince hubby's grandma to watch the kids so we can out to eat that night just hubby and I alone for a private dinner. Not sure yet about all the plans!

guaranteed a daughter only IF I get pregnant -- that is the hard part.

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And when people say they did not get their bfp til 16dpo, that is most likely not true either. By 14dpo doctors like to see your hcg level near or above 100. Yes there are those with a lower hcg level at 14dpo, but it is likely above 25 and will register on a hpt. So those who say they got there's after 14dpo, got their ovulation all wrong. Many women assume they have 28 days cycles and o on cd14. So when they don't get their bfp til 14 or 15dpo, its usually because they didn't really ovulated til cd17 or something and they are actually getting their bfp on 11dpo. KWIM. With IVF, the common "known" is if you do not get your bfp by 7dp5dt you are 95% out. That is 12dpo. Most girls will get it on either 5, 6 or 7 dp5dt -- so 10, 11 or 12dpo. That is the norm -- so when people say "oh, 12dpo is still too early". Not likely. If you are truly 12 or 13dpo and getting a bfn then you are more than 90% out unless you are the exception to the rule.

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I'll tell you what, though ... go to the Fertility Friend website and do a search for charts by "negative HPT before positive HPT" and you'll find a ton of charts where there were neg tests at 11, 12 even 13 dpo ... and then a positive at 14, 15 or 16. And since those gals are tracking the temps, Fertility Friend should have their dpos correct. On the countdown to pregnancy website, it allows that "some early pregnancy tests may work" on starting on 12 dpo, but they really recommend waiting until the day your period is expected. (Now, me, my period usually doesn't come until, like, 17 dpo, and I figure I can test on 14 dpo anyway ... I could be wrong, but it seems like an embryo will still implant generally on the same schedule (anywhere from 6-12 dpo, but 80 percent on 8-10 dpo), regardless of the overall luteal phase length, so waiting that extra three days probably (hopefully) isn't necessary.)

I'm really sorry for the discouragement you're feeling. I can't imagine what it was like to go through the HT issues you've already dealt with. I think those of us who attempt natural swaying are sometimes jealous of the HT girls, as though it's a guaranteed DG, abracadabra. But to go through the physical and emotional challenges of it, plus the cost (which is why no way in H-E-double-hockey-sticks I could eeeeeeever get my DH to even consider it) and then still end up in the same position ... really hard. I'm sorry. :( As to whether or not to return to HT ... I guess you just have to answer the question as to why you made the decision to turn from HT back to natural swaying and see if the answer still applies. If it doesn't, then tackling HT again may be the way to go.

One way or the other, I'm sure you'll do the right thing for you.

just to touch on the ff -- I have noticed though that ff is wrong about o dates a lot of the time. not by much, but by 1-2 days...and often. Not always, but everytime for me I know and I have been charting for months. It is after all, a computer. So if they are wrong by a day or 2 then that would make for most bfp at 11 or 12dpo, sometimes 13dpo and not as often later. I have a 15 day lp too. That does not mean anything for implantation and testing early.

I had to move away from ht because it was too emotionally draining and i needed a break. it was too much hurt to get nothing back in the end but money wasted and emotional despair. i want another baby and if dh was not going to do ht again swaying was my only option to still feel like i had some control over the outcome. dh still does not want to try ht again - in fact, my mother, friends and most importantly dh think i am nuts to try it again. i think i may be too. if it does not work i am going to be emotionally worse off than i am now, and have wasted 2 months of ttc on my own. i just want a baby in my belly so bad but i do want a girl. ????

I think FF can be wrong. This cycle it had my O at cd 12 which by my temp it would be correct. I had a u/s that day at had three mature follicles, I did trigger next day which means with certainty I O'd cd 14. I did an override on FF to change O to match trigger. It actually has me wondering if I did O before the u/s and still had 3 mature follies.

On another note, a appreciate everyones thoughts on the puppy. So far so good. I knew she'd b work but I have to say it's as good as could be. I hope your all right that it will feel like I couldn't b without her. Otherwise someone is gonna end up with the best deal ever on a boxer!!!

Pfp I talked to dh about HT before I started swaying. I cannot imagine spending the money and not ending up with a baby. Although I would know at least I tried. Sometimes I wonder I my sway doesn't work I would try for HT for #4 but the clock is ticking I am 36. Dear g-d please please bless me with a healthy dd.