February 2WW

EJ, never feel bad for venting here. That's the purpose of this thread. We understand. I think it's impossible to NOT feel down after TTCing for a while. I would love to be in Phoenix right now, just to be out of the cold grey.

Taytum, considering the BFN today I do think you Oed more recently. Which means you've had more time to sway. :) I looked up Uglies on GR and it is on my to-read list. I'll bump it up, thanks!

blueeyedguys, I am sorry AF came and REALLY sorry DH is being difficult. Men do not get our biological urgency at all.

XX, thank you, I so hope you are right!

I'm 8DPO and I want to test so badly but I don't want to see a BFN. Arghhh.

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Hi ladies! I'm new and jumping in :)

I am a regular cycle person but this week my period is a week late with BFNs. I tested to make sure...nothing. I travelled and had a cold so I didn't temp or do OPKs this month. So now I have to pay for it and sit around wondering what is up. Awesome :(

Maiden - that's what I was thinking too. I have had these weird sharp pains going all the way down to from my ovary to my vajayjay. Definitely uncomfortable and on and off. Yesterday was worse than today though.

I'm so excited for you to test! When do you think you will?

1DD - welcome! I'm also swaying blue if you want a swaying buddy! [emoji4] it's always hard to tell for me without temping...maybe you ended up O'ing late this cycle? Baby dust to you! [emoji92]


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1DD- the same thing happened to me when I was pregnant with DS2. AF was supposed to come at 14DPO (CD25), but I got a BFN. At 19DPO (CD30- I never had a cycle past CD28), another BFN! I started to feel round ligament pain and breast tenderness at this point so I new I was pregnant. I finally got a BFP at 21DPO at CD32!

Hang in there! I would test again 3-5 days from now.


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TaytumJ and 1DD- please take all my blue dust. PLEASE!!!! There is nothing like a snugly with mama baby boy!
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1DD- the same thing happened to me when I was pregnant with DS2. AF was supposed to come at 14DPO (CD25), but I got a BFN. At 19DPO (CD30- I never had a cycle past CD28), another BFN! I started to feel round ligament pain and breast tenderness at this point so I new I was pregnant. I finally got a BFP at 21DPO at CD32!

Hang in there! I would test again 3-5 days from now.


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That's so strange XXforHubby! Crazy how stuff works out. I will start temping and doing OPKs and occasional HPTs until AF comes, because now I'm just flat out curious about what's going on. I've had a teeny bit of spotting and only when I check CM, and that's it. A definite mystery!

No big deal if there isn't a BFP this month, we weren't really planning on starting to try until next month anyway. And we're real casual about it through April because we go on vacation then. Might be easier not to be pregnant and flying cross country with a 1 year old. But we're both starting to get the baby fever so we're happy either way.

Maybe i am crazy but i swear i see a line on the frer

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Maybe i am crazy but i swear i see a line on the frer

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I know, it does kind of look like it but I think it is just an evap. I took a photo and did a negative and it is the same. I thought I saw one on the wondfo but pretty sure it is an evap also. It is kind of a colorless line.

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EmJ~ I live in the Phoenix area! Enjoy your visit! Great weather right now. :)

Well, I'm out....again. On to CYCLE 14....or not! I might be ready to throw in the towel. It's getting way too depressing. All of my babies only took 1-2 cycles max. Just wish I could be done on my own terms. :(

Good luck ladies.

Fivebabies- my heartbreaks for you. I can't imagine how you must feel. I'm getting close to being done too. I'm on cycle 8 and if we don't get a BFP by cycle 10...we will see. DH said one more year, but I don't know if I can mentally handle that.

Be kind to yourself right now. You will know soon what feels right for you. I just hope and pray that you can find peace, either way. Hugs [emoji8]


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I'm so sorry fivebabies :( :(

Sorry to hear 5 babies. It's so hard to keep going :( but the heart wants what the heart wants. I've been trying on and off for 14 months now. My boys took one cycle.
So no AF and she could be here between today and Wednesday. I'm 11dpo and so far I'm still feeling very calm, I've also had aching on my left side down low but I've had this every month. Earlier today I felt like AF had arrived but nothing. I've got a couple IC tests.... Are they any good to use from 12 dpo?

Mars- Yes my IC work fine starting on 10DPO they are just normally very very faint in the beginning and take a few days to really darken up. Although of course it also depends how fast the HCG rises in your body.

Maiden your chart looks great;) FX FX !!

Hope everyone is doing well:) wishing you all the best of luck!!


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Five babies and XX, I can only imagine how stressful and upsetting this is for both of you. I haven't even begun to actively try, but it is stressful. Sometimes I think about stopping temping and trying like the 99% of my friends who seem to get pregnant super quickly without any OPKs, bbt charts, understanding CM, etc. I hope you guys do some positive things for yourselves (a massage maybe?) and I wish you both all the luck in the world!

That's crazy XX that you got a BFN at 12dpo but went on to be pregnant! Aside from the sharp pain on/off in my uterus I don't seem to have any other symptoms (but I don't know if I'm 12dpo or 4 haha). I have an obgyn appt on the 20th so I'll probably just ask them to do a blood test either way. And thanks for the blue dust! [emoji170]

Mars - I hope, hope, hope you see a BFP!! Good luck and baby dust!!




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Thanks ladies. Love you all. It's not fun or exciting anymore. I'm not even swaying. Could not care less what gender baby would be....just want a baby! Actually we want 2 more but that looks like a pipe dream now.

So this is way too much TMI but I am on CD 4, AF has lightened up tremendously, I had a migraine yesterday, some EWCM the day before and I woke up just a bit ago with what I assumed was cramps but I realized that it is very similar to O pain. This same thing happened the last 2 months but I ignored it and assumed it was just really intense and pin pointed cramping. Is this even possible?? I have always O'd on cd18-20....like all of my life.

So I know that this is so gross but we dtd this AM just in case! Poor DH really took one for the team....we do NOT dtd during AF, never in 16 years of marriage. We are pretty adventurous but that was never an option for me. Lol.

Anyways, anyone ever hear of O day changing on someone? I know my sister O's around CD 5-7 but it just seems so soon. Maybe I'm grabbing at straws here..... ��

Thank you TaytumJ! I have made peace with things 2 cycles ago. I have surrendered to the process and realize that it will happen in due time. Each cycle that passes teaches me something new that I had not seen or realized before, and I am grateful for that. Patience is now secondhand for me, and I find the greatest comfort in my 2 beautiful, sweet boys. Exercise, yoga, and acupuncture, and you ladies help tremendously!

AFM- I am now in the 2ww and expect AF on the 28th

I am excited for those getting ready to test and hope to see some more BFPs!!


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Had our attempt this morning,so joining you ladies in the 2ww [emoji2]

Fivebabies- with DS1 I had to of Oed the day AF ended based on an US and gestational dating of DS1. It is totally possible. Look at my chart! I Oed a few days after AF ended! My cycles have gone back to what they were pre-children. Let's hope my fertility did too [emoji2]!

I am glad you got an attempt in, and I would keep having them until your cramping/O pains goes away. I bet you are now having better timed BDing and will get your BFP! I am [emoji120] for you!


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Eleena- I am Xing everything and [emoji120] for you too! I hope you caught the egg with a pink sperm.


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Fivebabies- I know someone who got pregnant after dtding during af. She thought it was safe...so you might have a chance there.

5babies - if when people conceive twins in a cycle where they ovulate twice a few days apart, I wonder if you possibly just had a cycle with a second O during AF that carried over and was really late?

AF is here for me, just turned out to be a random long cycle. Now I can kick it into gear and give swaying a shot in 2 weeks!

1DD, I think you might be gearing up to O now, based on those couple low recent temps and EWCM. I would BD if you want to try this cycle! Welcome to the thread btw. Nice to see more FFers here. :)

Taytum, thank you, I am a little excited myself. My temp went up today, too. My plan is to hold off testing until 15DPO, though if I'm not pregnant AF could arrive any day, as I've had several 9 day LPs recently. Although usually my temps aren't going up still when that happens. Your chart looks great, I see you had a nice temp rise too.

fivebabies, I am SO sorry. I also conceived very quickly ptior to swaying so I know a bit of what you're feeling. But 14 cycles is a REALLY long time. Maybe you just need a break? Is HT an option for you?

I have always had an erratic O timing and LP, even though my cycle length is regular. I most often O around CD17-18, but I have Oed as early as CD5 (and conceived from it). So it's definitely possible and I'm so glad you attempted. I actually like BD during AF outside the first day of cramping, but my AF is light and short. None of the men I've dated/my late DH have minded, either. Or so they say! Anyway fx this cycle does the trick for you.

Mars, I think it's totally worth testing with ICs at 10DPO+. When is AF due for you?

Queen, thank you! I was very happy to see a temp rise. Though I'm trying not to be overly optimistic.

XX, what a beautiful temp rise!

eleena, welcome to the TWW. I hope you and XX both caught the egg.

I am reading a very compelling series (Frost Chronicles, available on Kindle Unlimited), it's like a YA cross between Stargate and Game of Thrones, both of which I love. I identify very strongly with the heroine, too. It's helping pass the time very nicely!

Maiden~ The thing is that in not even swaying. I've only swayed once (last baby) . I'm just not getting pregnant. But like I said, if it doesn't happen on its own then it's not meant to be. No HT for me of any kind. Just don't believe in it. I'll stop trying (and avoid) after this cycle. If I still feel the need for a baby in November then I'll think about it. But can't imagine anything with be any different then.

Hope some of get your bfp's soon!

Maiden- Downloading Frost Chronicles onto my kindle tonight! Sounds great even if I can guess the big secret. I'm LOVING your chart. I hope AF stays far far away!

Eleena- Welcome to the 2WW!

XX- I'm glad you O'd so quickly that seems like a great sign in terms of fertility!

Thank you ladies! I'm honestly fine if I don't get a BFP this cycle- I'm so used to not getting one at this point. If I do get a BFP, I won't believe it and will buy one of every kind of test to make sure it wasn't a fluke! I am happy that my cycles have returned to my "old" normal and take it as a sign that we will get a BFP soon.

I am downloading the Frost chronicles too! I need something to read when I put DS2 down at night.

I sure hope to see more BFPs soon- we need some more [emoji4]!


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Congrats, 2boys!!

I'm out. AF came on Thursday. I was a lot more upset than I thought I would be. The timing for the due date was perfect & dh wouldn't have been able to keep changing his mind.

Oh well, maybe I'll get to try again. Or maybe not.

Good luck to everyone!

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Hi Blueeyed, I feel your pain about DH. I'm in the same boat. Not only is there stress involved in TTC (esp. at my age), but there's the added pressure of getting BFP before, like you said, DH throws in the towel for good. He would really love a DD as much as me, but he goes back and forth because he is 46 and just doesn't know if he can manage three little ones. We don't have the energy we used to. I just can't let it go only due to age. YOLO and I would always regret not trying. I think deep-down he feels the same way but when the boys act up, he can only see short-term. Hang in there and you're not alone!

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EmJ~ I live in the Phoenix area! Enjoy your visit! Great weather right now. :)

Well, I'm out....again. On to CYCLE 14....or not! I might be ready to throw in the towel. It's getting way too depressing. All of my babies only took 1-2 cycles max. Just wish I could be done on my own terms. :(

Good luck ladies.

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Hi fivebabies,
Yes! It seems to add to the discouragement when the first babes were conceived so easily! DH just had to look at me funny and I conceived four times in a row. Now we're on sixth attempt ( I know, not as long as you! I'm so sorry), and instead of realizing this is normal, I wonder what might be wrong.

I am so impressed with a lot of you ladies that take the time to respond and encourage everyone. This is a very welcoming forum.

Anyone awake??
Can you see a faint line here?
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What about if I invert it?
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It's an IC but I do have one Good test left.

I SEE A LINE!!!! Congrats congrats :)

Junie, dh isn't setting time limits, my age is. I could really do without the flip flopping though.

XXforhubby Thanks!

fivebabies Sorry you're out too, especially when you've been trying so long. That must be so stressful. Maybe take a break for a cycle, treat yourself a bunch & just destress?

My O has always been all over the place, but usually day 21-23. Now it's day 12-15 and my cycle is 27-29 days instead of 32-34. Thanks peri-menopause. I have heard of women getting pregnant on their period., fyi.

Uschi Sounds like we're in the same boat, except my dh is turning 44 this month (I'm 41) and already have 4. Some days I really wonder what the heck I'm thinking, especially when the boys are being utterly annoying, but I also know I would always regret it if I didn't at least try.. Although I'm not really swaying right now, skipping breakfast & snacks is about it for me.

Mars, just saw your post. All I can say is...maybe? Sorry not helpful. I think I maybe see something, though. It's really faint.

blueeyed- Oh I understand now. A good friend of mine had her 2nd at 42 though so I think you still have a great chance plus doesn't being older sway pink :)

Mars- That also looks like a line which is clearly visible "live" but hard to catch on camera- it was easier for me to see it on my phone screen as compared to my PC screen, but I do definitely see it.

Thanks Junie, as you said it looks like something on the phone and IRL but on the PC it looks like nothing. Unless you look at it from afar lol!
OMG it may have actually worked this month! I have heaps of IC's and 1 FR so I'm going to keep testing with the IC's and if they start to look darker i'll use my FR.

Mars! I see a line! Maybe hold of until tomorrow for you good test. But I think congrats are in order:)


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I would use FMU tomorrow and I bet you'll get a great line :)

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Junie, dh isn't setting time limits, my age is. I could really do without the flip flopping though.

XXforhubby Thanks!

fivebabies Sorry you're out too, especially when you've been trying so long. That must be so stressful. Maybe take a break for a cycle, treat yourself a bunch & just destress?

My O has always been all over the place, but usually day 21-23. Now it's day 12-15 and my cycle is 27-29 days instead of 32-34. Thanks peri-menopause. I have heard of women getting pregnant on their period., fyi.

Uschi Sounds like we're in the same boat, except my dh is turning 44 this month (I'm 41) and already have 4. Some days I really wonder what the heck I'm thinking, especially when the boys are being utterly annoying, but I also know I would always regret it if I didn't at least try.. Although I'm not really swaying right now, skipping breakfast & snacks is about it for me.

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I see, blueeyed. Little different situation. It's that regret thing, though, isn't, that keeps up going??

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Thanks Junie, as you said it looks like something on the phone and IRL but on the PC it looks like nothing. Unless you look at it from afar lol!
OMG it may have actually worked this month! I have heaps of IC's and 1 FR so I'm going to keep testing with the IC's and if they start to look darker i'll use my FR.

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Yay, Mars! Here's to hoping!!

Sorry, totally off-topic but thought I could think out loud since others are discussing books. Am I the only one that's depressed over this 50 Shades mania? I'm no radical feminist and as a stay-at-home mom I'm a believer in traditional gender roles. Yet, I hate that women are supporting this sadistic story that degrades women and glorifies violence. Thoughts?

I see it Mars! How many dpo are you? If you're at least 10dpo I'd for sure use your FRER! Fingers crossed for a nice dark line on it!