TTC Girl - June 2012

I couldn't find a June thread so i started one :)

AF showed 4 days early so Im a June TTC Girl....

I posted the below as a separate post in the private sections, but if you don't see it and have some input please help with my sway for this month....i really need help....

So after our 4th failed cycle DH is really impatient and just wants to get pregnant.

The sway so far has been
LE Diet
Vitex
Peppermint Tea
LR for DH
Rephresh
Zrytec
Sylk (dropped for last 2 months)
DH HOT baths (dropped last cycle)
i DONT jump and Dump - in fact i lie there for 30mins with pelvis elevated.
8-10 FR followed by 4-5 DTD.
The DTD schedule has been pretty much: O-2, O-1, O, O+1, O+2.


DH is convinced that we have failed because of all the FR. He says that when we DTD it just dribbles out.

So how should we structure the BD so as to still try and have a good sway??

Generally we DTD once of twice a week, DH is happy to have increased frequency of DTD around O...but no FR, no 'wasted' sperm at all. He has said that if he ejaculates its gong in me and staying in me!

Please give me some advice as I am really at a loss as to what to do.
Im worried that if he doesn't FR and we just DTD say 5-6 times, because of the lack of FR we will definitely have boy sperms.

He also wants me to drop the refresh.

Any suggestions / recommendations are welcome as Im lost as to what to do this month.

Lassie, how long have you been using the Vitex? I know that Atomic has said it can act almost like birth control after a certain point -- she stopped taking it right before the cycle she got pg with her dd. As for me, I had been taking it for 3 months straight, then another three months of af thru o, so I dropped it this cycle too (altho I do not know the result yet). Maybe something for you to consider?

GL!!!

Hi ladies! BFPS all around in June!!!!

Good luck ladies!

I'm going to need luck at this rate... another long-long cycle happening. :(

Hi Girls, mind me jumping in? I am ttc pink too. Am currently in the 2ww (3dpo). I dropped sylk and zyrtec this month, as haven't managed to get pg last 2 cycles. BD'd 0-3,0-2, 0-1. No FR as my hubbie is over 40, and i am late 30's! Need some swimmers to get there! I O'd early this cycle, but still managed a bit of a cut off! Now just the waiting game.
Lassie so sorry to hear AF came early (I know the feeling) - Maybe it is the FR making it harder to get pg? I'm no expect of course! But in my case, both my last pregnancies were 1 shot wonders!!! And now I'm having trouble even with multiple attempts each month! Only time will tell this month! If i don't get pg this month, then next month I am going to have 1 attempt only and see if that works!!
Good luck to you all xxx

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Originally Posted by dramabird

Lassie, how long have you been using the Vitex? I know that Atomic has said it can act almost like birth control after a certain point -- she stopped taking it right before the cycle she got pg with her dd. As for me, I had been taking it for 3 months straight, then another three months of af thru o, so I dropped it this cycle too (altho I do not know the result yet). Maybe something for you to consider?

GL!!!

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I have been on the vitex for 5 months, AF-O. (its actually done wonders for my af, its lighter then ever, and no cramps!)
I never knew it could almost be birth control like!
I reckon i will go one more cycle with the vitex, and then drop that aswell if the we fail again.

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Originally Posted by lightofmylifexxxy

Hi Girls, mind me jumping in? I am ttc pink too. Am currently in the 2ww (3dpo). I dropped sylk and zyrtec this month, as haven't managed to get pg last 2 cycles. BD'd 0-3,0-2, 0-1. No FR as my hubbie is over 40, and i am late 30's! Need some swimmers to get there! I O'd early this cycle, but still managed a bit of a cut off! Now just the waiting game.
Lassie so sorry to hear AF came early (I know the feeling) - Maybe it is the FR making it harder to get pg? I'm no expect of course! But in my case, both my last pregnancies were 1 shot wonders!!! And now I'm having trouble even with multiple attempts each month! Only time will tell this month! If i don't get pg this month, then next month I am going to have 1 attempt only and see if that works!!
Good luck to you all xxx

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DH is convinced its the FR that is making us fail....and there is no convincing him otherwise. He is flat our refusing to do it any more (a bloke refusing to have a w*** or be given a couple of b*** jobs- who'd have thought? LOL)

CD13 and I am just winging it this time. NO OPK's, NO TEMPING, & NO MONITOR...crazy huh? I am trying to use my cervix, CM, & pains to pinpoint O based on my past charts. This morning I had EWCM which I hardly ever have, but this is the cycle after stopping Clomid, so maybe that is why. I am thinking I am Oing today or tomorrow, so attempting tonight with Preseed. It will be a miracle if I get a BFP in June....

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Originally Posted by Lassie1982

I have been on the vitex for 5 months, AF-O. (its actually done wonders for my af, its lighter then ever, and no cramps!)

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I experienced the same thing. My period was astonishingly light ... like, one tampon a day for three days, and that was it. It started to make me concerned that maybe a hearty enough uterine lining wasn't building up (or something) and preventing anything from sticking?

Here's Atomic's personal Vitex piece from her stealth pink sway info: Taking Vitex for 6 months before I conceived 2 W on, 2 W off. I wasn't doing this for swaying, it was because I had no sex drive (which was one major sticking point between DH and I) and I had read vitex could help - if anything, it made it worse!! I stopped it the month before I got pg firstly because my sex drive was SO low it was nonexistent and I was pretty much fed up with DH anyway (really, he sounds horrible but he's a LOT better now!) Also, the month before and then the month I stopped the vitex, I had what seemed like it might have been a lame attempt at AF - a little bit of dark blood that lasted for a day but I didn't really think it was a true AF and thought I probably hadn't ovulated those two months, even tho I was crampy and had some EWCM - that had happened at other times when I was BF and they were fake Os. I was sort of concerned that my lining needed to slough off but the V was preventing it from happening, and so I stopped the vitex thinking I would have a real AF.

And I know that Atomic has cited some instances where women took Vitex for awhile and then, the month after they stopped, they conceived their DDs. Again, I don't know for me yet (I'm on CD14, but I have quite long luteal phases of 17 to 18 days, so I'm not due for AF yet), but it certainly might be something for you to consider if June doesn't work (but hopefully it does!!). My thought was, heck, if our noble leader Atomic did it (took Vitex and then dropped it), it can't be a bad strategy! :)

Zanacal- baby's still snug in there... I can't believe it! Can't wait to hear about your beautiful baby girl ;)

I'm in 2WW right now. Praying I don't need to be in June ttc ahhhhhhhhh

Yep, I have read that girls have gotten their BFP after stopping the Vitex. This month I quit Vitex and took soy from cd 3-7. I am currently 7 dpo... So we shall see!

I'm praying for BFPs for all of you:luck:


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PINK DUST to all you ladies!!!

Lassie, I also think the Vitex could be acting as BC as well.

Hope, I do hope that June gives you a big BFP!!

KD, that sounds so promising about EWCM....maybe what AS said about the cycle after Clomid getting preggers will work for you!!

I am doing good, just tired! Was really loving the pink shopping but there is so much summer still out in the stores that I haven't gotten anything new since I found out...am going to wait until they roll out the Fall/Winter clothing to get serious about getting Lillian her own things!

DS2 is good, he turned 1 in late April and now he's doing this funny head shake thing and headbang thing when he gets happy and excited and is walking around...it's so cute. DS1 keeps telling me I'm very his best friend, and that just melts my heart. DS1 is having an issue with winning though, he wants to win every game he plays!

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Yep, I have read that girls have gotten their BFP after stopping the Vitex. This month I quit Vitex and took soy from cd 3-7. I am currently 7 dpo... So we shall see!

I'm praying for BFPs for all of you:luck:


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I'm seriously considering this approach if I don't get anywhere this month... my fingers are crossed for you!

PRAYING for ALL of you!! for BFP's!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by dramabird

I experienced the same thing. My period was astonishingly light ... like, one tampon a day for three days, and that was it. It started to make me concerned that maybe a hearty enough uterine lining wasn't building up (or something) and preventing anything from sticking?

Here's Atomic's personal Vitex piece from her stealth pink sway info: Taking Vitex for 6 months before I conceived 2 W on, 2 W off. I wasn't doing this for swaying, it was because I had no sex drive (which was one major sticking point between DH and I) and I had read vitex could help - if anything, it made it worse!! I stopped it the month before I got pg firstly because my sex drive was SO low it was nonexistent and I was pretty much fed up with DH anyway (really, he sounds horrible but he's a LOT better now!) Also, the month before and then the month I stopped the vitex, I had what seemed like it might have been a lame attempt at AF - a little bit of dark blood that lasted for a day but I didn't really think it was a true AF and thought I probably hadn't ovulated those two months, even tho I was crampy and had some EWCM - that had happened at other times when I was BF and they were fake Os. I was sort of concerned that my lining needed to slough off but the V was preventing it from happening, and so I stopped the vitex thinking I would have a real AF.

And I know that Atomic has cited some instances where women took Vitex for awhile and then, the month after they stopped, they conceived their DDs. Again, I don't know for me yet (I'm on CD14, but I have quite long luteal phases of 17 to 18 days, so I'm not due for AF yet), but it certainly might be something for you to consider if June doesn't work (but hopefully it does!!). My thought was, heck, if our noble leader Atomic did it (took Vitex and then dropped it), it can't be a bad strategy! :)

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See - my body is confusing the buggery out of me now - somewhat like AS above.

My period is normally
heavy for half a day, normal for 1.5 days and very light for 1 day.

This month (i noted yesterday as CD1) i have only spotting for 2 days. NOt even enough to substantiate the use of a tampon or pad (i have had one in, but they are coming-out with just spotting)
whats going on?!?!?!?
Ive taken another 3 tests - as i am starting the peppermint tea and vitex again, and all 3 came out negative...so its NOT pregnancy...

sooooooooo confused

My last period (taking vitex) was SOOOO light.

Vitex, you weird!

I piggied out on food today at work... urgh! The guilt is immense! It's the Queens Jubilee thing here in England, which doesn't mean a whole lot for me as I'm American... but it was FOOD galore. I shouldn't have even glanced at the table, because when I did... I couldn't help myself! Lemon curd tarts, lemon meringue, sponge and jam cakes, paneer spring roll things, etcetera etcetera. Ohhh brother, fail.

I felt so guilty about the amount of stuff I ate, I was going to skip dinner. Then, I thought, that's silly and So I've opted for iceberg lettuce and mushrooms with a tablespoon of low fat sour cream and lemon juice. *shrugs* I really hope I've already ovulated... I'm scared to look at the scale tomorrow!

I hate you, delicious cakes and tarts!

Don't feel bad suregena, I'm sure it wont have affected your sway at all :) we all pig out every now and again!
Sounds like you have a great shot this month, well done to your dh for all those attempts!!
I'm resetting my count to CD1 today, I finally have what I can call a 'flow'
Still externally light though! Lighter then ever! Vitex IS wierd!




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Thinking of everyone and sending bfp vibes!!

Well here we all are in June :)
Surgena I didn't know u were American cool! Skip Vitex your next cycle tho & let's see what happens & don feel guilty for treating urself every once in a while because we all deserve it sometimes

Well AF has arrived, and I'm sure i will have a flow by morning so I am CD1.

I just ordered a new batch of ovulation and pregnancy cheapie strips!
So it's ON! As soon as I verify a flow.. I will pOp the Vitex!

I guess my body needed this cycle right after my loss. :)

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Originally Posted by Butterfly Spirit

Well AF has arrived, and I'm sure i will have a flow by morning so I am CD1.

I just ordered a new batch of ovulation and pregnancy cheapie strips!
So it's ON! As soon as I verify a flow.. I will pOp the Vitex!

I guess my body needed this cycle right after my loss. :)

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Hi Cycle Buddy :) With any luck we'll be pregnancy buddies too :luck:

I got a proper flow this morning so re-adjusted today to be CD1.
Couple of changes to my sway this month so hoping this will be enough to tip the scales and finally get me a BFP

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Originally Posted by Lassie1982

Don't feel bad suregena, I'm sure it wont have affected your sway at all :) we all pig out every now and again!
Sounds like you have a great shot this month, well done to your dh for all those attempts!!
I'm resetting my count to CD1 today, I finally have what I can call a 'flow'
Still externally light though! Lighter then ever! Vitex IS wierd!




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He's still going! :o We're still BDing (and he's still getting additional releases in...) until I'm SURE I've ovulated!

The past three days I've been cramping (like bowel movement cramps), having pinches, etcetera. We'll see.

I wonder if I ovulated on CD26... because CD25 I suddenly (with low temp) had fertile signs (globs of EWCM... soft/high/open cervix) and then CD26 I had a headache that lasted all night on CD25 and all day CD26 (maybe ovulating = hormones = headache?) but I no longer had fertile symptoms down there. THen, of course, CD27 I had my first proper temp spike which is more or less still up.

So, we'll see. We're still BDing in case, though.... I do NOT want to miss ovulation if I haven't already ovulated... I am determined to make the best of this month... long wacky cycle or not! BRING IT!

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Originally Posted by Babyy Love

Well here we all are in June :)
Surgena I didn't know u were American cool! Skip Vitex your next cycle tho & let's see what happens & don feel guilty for treating urself every once in a while because we all deserve it sometimes

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I never binge like THAT but it's that thing... when you're on a diet, suddenly you'll eat something (I did really good yesterday but then suddenly my body went, "OH MY GOD, MOOOOORE!!!!" and I sort of became a robot and followed all its orders... it was good, though... mmm....) and then you cannot stop and you eat more than you would have under normal circumstances. Sigh. But I DID calculate as best I could all I ate into myfitnesspal and hopefully, more or less still kept my day with 1200 to 1400 or 1500, so don't feel too guilty.

If this cycle does not work, I won't be doing vitex again, though I am curious about soy isoflavones!

Yep - I'm from Arizona! My hubby is British, hence why I am in England! :)

I've also had a bit of a breakout... I don't normally have that problem. :/

Ok, I figured you ladies may know the answer to this without me having to start a new thread. I post too many because I over analyze every little thing (boy mom thing!! lol).
For those who had muscle to lose, how long did it take and how did you know when you lost enough? I am very OCD about working out and have just about 6 days a week for 6 years so I have no idea what me without muscle is supposed to look like. I'm not BUFF just toned, my arms are toned and my legs are toned and light toned abs. So, I don't know what I'm aiming for or how long to guess it will take. Losing muscle will help me loads I think so this is really important to me. I'm doing the couch potato route which is likely going to kill me but I tried the 1 hr cardio 6x week and it made me gain muscle I swear it, even though I ate LE. I did it as a trial to see if it would make me lose muscle or not.
Military *may* move us near end of the year, no idea, so I'm trying to see if it's worth starting to try before end of year.

Hi Lassie Just in response to your first post.. I had that trouble with my d/h when it came to the FR He was giving up on me and cracked it and said no more!!! So in the end I had i think it was 9 days of FR but then when it came to our attempt time he released in the am and then the pm and then we dtd for real 8 hrs after and I know his T levels were low because I had to get him to point of no return and then we dtd and I tell you It was a NIGHTMARE!! I was so lucky to fall preg from just dtd the once.. But I know what you are going through and yous can always try Compressed FR

Thanks so much pinkin! Good to know my hubby isn't the only one struggling lol
I think compressed fr is the best we'll get, hopefully it will do the trick!

How's your pregnancy going?


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Morning guys!!! Well...our attempt is in God's hands. i thought I O'd cd11..stopped opking. Had ewcm cd14 and cd20. wrote my notes in ff. Turns out I O'd cd20 )probably due to the estrogenic qualities of the stupid f-ing peppermint tea). All I can rely on now is my diet...and moon was cancer new waxing....lol dont think it matters. God's plan...not mine as we all see here. So today I am 8dpo and have a faint bfp on an answer...praying to God it is real. Oh, ended up with O+12

Since I am not using any OPKs or temping, I am relying on my cervix. My dilemma is at we have on DTD a week ago, and my DH has been sick the past two days so we have been trying to DTD, but the kids keep interupting. I just don't think this month is my month, the month after stopping Clomid and I am so upset!!! I am still going to try to get him to try again tonight, but it just does not look good for me. Why is this happening to me.... I know I am not in control, but I just don't understand why things don't go as planned.

Hi ladies! I've been lurking for a while but thought it was time I said hello! We're not actually ttc until mid July but I've started my pink diet this week and i'm just trying to stay in the zone!
Good luck to you all who are ttc and lots of pink dust to you all x x x :ttcgirl:

suregena, double bank holiday and LE diet just aren't compatable ;-) DH really wants a take away tonite! do feel mean, I think i'll put back on all i've lost in a few days once i'm preggie ;-0

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suregena, double bank holiday and LE diet just aren't compatable ;-) DH really wants a take away tonite! do feel mean, I think i'll put back on all i've lost in a few days once i'm preggie ;-0

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TELL ME ABOUT IT! Ugh! Haha!

Thankfully, my work binge didn't show up on the scale... I actually lost a little. *phew* That was a CLOSE one.

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Originally Posted by suregena

I never binge like THAT but it's that thing... when you're on a diet, suddenly you'll eat something (I did really good yesterday but then suddenly my body went, "OH MY GOD, MOOOOORE!!!!" and I sort of became a robot and followed all its orders... it was good, though... mmm....) and then you cannot stop and you eat more than you would have under normal circumstances. Sigh. But I DID calculate as best I could all I ate into myfitnesspal and hopefully, more or less still kept my day with 1200 to 1400 or 1500, so don't feel too guilty.

If this cycle does not work, I won't be doing vitex again, though I am curious about soy isoflavones!

Yep - I'm from Arizona! My hubby is British, hence why I am in England! :)

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Ohhh that's great though! I would love to live out of the states for a lil while. Sometimes we eat more because we need what we crave not only because we're greedy or its tasty that's what I learned and that's why sometimes I just go with the flow.

Yes well It is sometimes our only option when the guys wont abstain or fr.. They can be real pains in the Bum cant they!!!
Pregnancy is going well thanks starting to grow a little bit now should start feeling some movement soon id say!!

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Hi ladies! I've been lurking for a while but thought it was time I said hello! We're not actually ttc until mid July but I've started my pink diet this week and i'm just trying to stay in the zone!
Good luck to you all who are ttc and lots of pink dust to you all x x x :ttcgirl:

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Welcome!

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Originally Posted by pinkin2011

Yes well It is sometimes our only option when the guys wont abstain or fr.. They can be real pains in the Bum cant they!!!
Pregnancy is going well thanks starting to grow a little bit now should start feeling some movement soon id say!!

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When do u find out watt ur having?

On the 15th and I am crapping myself!!

Yesterday was supposed to be my period (that is... if this cycle had been normal! So not really!)

Still not sure if I've ovulated or not... waiting for fertilityfriend to say something.

My husband put on a late gig and I fell asleep and he came home with friends... and so I'm not sure if he released at all yesterday and we definitely didn't BD. :( I have to ask him when he wakes up if he did or didn't release on his own yesterday, but if he didn't then I guess we'll have to stop BDing?

I just hope I've already ovulated. :/

I've got what I think is Pericoronitis and the whole lower part of my left side of my face + my lymph nodes in that area are completely swollen. :( I couldn't sleep comfortably. Everyone is telling me to get antibiotics but I hear that's a no-no.

It feels a little better today, and as it's a bank holiday weekend, anyway, I'm just going to ride the pain out... with worthless paracetomol/tylenol.