Saw palmetto and vitex together and how far in advance??

OK so I am sure if I kept searching I could find the answer on here but with 3 kids running around that's almost impossible.

I am doing everything in my power to sway girl in our attempt in a few weeks/months and wanted to know how far in advance should I start taking these two supplements, how much of them, and are they OK to take together??? I am not on any form of BC except condoms so it wouldn't be mixing with anything other than folic acid and baby aspirin.

If anyone knows please let me know.......

Hi! :)

Vitex can be taken ASAP, 800mg each day for the first 14 days of your cycle. It does do "stuff" to your cycle, so I'd suggest going on that for a couple of months before ttc..

Saw palmetto is, recommended by Atomic, not to be taken prior to six weeks before attempt. I think it's a 320mg supp, taken once a day, but don't quote me on that..

They are ok to be taken together, so no worries there. :)

Best of luck!!! :)

Ps: I started taking SP and it's completely stuffed my ovulation for the month... So I'd just be prepared for that. :)

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Originally Posted by hopingforsaskia

Hi! :)

Vitex can be taken ASAP, 800mg each day for the first 14 days of your cycle. It does do "stuff" to your cycle, so I'd suggest going on that for a couple of months before ttc..

Saw palmetto is, recommended by Atomic, not to be taken prior to six weeks before attempt. I think it's a 320mg supp, taken once a day, but don't quote me on that..

They are ok to be taken together, so no worries there. :)

Best of luck!!! :)

Ps: I started taking SP and it's completely stuffed my ovulation for the month... So I'd just be prepared for that. :)

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I had the same question. How are you feeling on the SP?

I took SP for 15 days for my first attempt in Sept and found that I was still spotting at cd11 and didn't ovulate until cd20. Now, it is normal for me to ovulate that late a couple of times a year, so it could've just been co-incidence. However, the spotting concerned me the most so I only took SP from cd1-cd10 this time, still had spotting until cd10 but ovulated on cd16. Hope that helps. BTW I stayed away from Vitex as we've been TTC for a year now and I didn't want to mess around with my cycles as my hubby's at the end of his tether regarding TTC and is happy to call it a day at anytime!

I'm feeling fine on the sp.. What sort of thing are you thinking? I haven't had spotting or anything.. :) just very delayed ovulation. Atomic said that most people only find Ov delayed for the first month.. So I'll see next cycle.. :)

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Originally Posted by hopingforsaskia

Hi! :)

Vitex can be taken ASAP, 800mg each day for the first 14 days of your cycle. It does do "stuff" to your cycle, so I'd suggest going on that for a couple of months before ttc..

Saw palmetto is, recommended by Atomic, not to be taken prior to six weeks before attempt. I think it's a 320mg supp, taken once a day, but don't quote me on that..

They are ok to be taken together, so no worries there. :)

Best of luck!!! :)

Ps: I started taking SP and it's completely stuffed my ovulation for the month... So I'd just be prepared for that. :)

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Perfect, thanks so much! Only thing I'd add is we've had the best luck also taking SP the first 14 days of the cycle as well - some have taken it the full 6 weeks, but I think 2 w on, 2 w off, 2 w on, then attempt is a great way to do it.

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Originally Posted by hopingforsaskia

I'm feeling fine on the sp.. What sort of thing are you thinking? I haven't had spotting or anything.. :) just very delayed ovulation. Atomic said that most people only find Ov delayed for the first month.. So I'll see next cycle.. :)

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A lot of people find SP makes them mellow...

I hope it makes me mellow this next cycle... I've been a real dragon on this diet (LOW BLOOD SUGARS!!!) haha.

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

A lot of people find SP makes them mellow...

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Hey Atomic I am trying to conceive in April 2013 so It's coming up fast and you told me to do Vtex and SP so when do you think is a good idea to start them? Also I was gonna take Zyrtec and give hubby sudafed but he will be on cranberry is that okay?

I am taking Vitex but ditched SP as it delayed ovulation from CD17 (average) to CD26 - sticking with the vitex though to sway. I did only take SP for one cycle (days 1-17) so maybe I should have stuck with it a bit longer - just couldnt bear another 40 day cycle!

I think you're supposed to stop the sp before you Ov or cd14 (whichever comes first) :) I had a major delay in my Ov too with my first sp cycle.. Will see what happens this time! Cd8 today ..... Come on O day! ;)

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Originally Posted by hopingforsaskia

I think you're supposed to stop the sp before you Ov or cd14 (whichever comes first) :) I had a major delay in my Ov too with my first sp cycle.. Will see what happens this time! Cd8 today ..... Come on O day! ;)

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Yes that's what I was told too :)

I am praying hard for you that you get the little princess this cycle!!!! Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fx:

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Originally Posted by momof3boyz11

I am praying hard for you that you get the little princess this cycle!!!! Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fx:

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Thank you!!!! I'm hoping it doesn't take too long... But if it does, I'll try hard not to complain... So many others have it worse than me I'm sure!

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Originally Posted by wannagirl21

Hey Atomic I am trying to conceive in April 2013 so It's coming up fast and you told me to do Vtex and SP so when do you think is a good idea to start them? Also I was gonna take Zyrtec and give hubby sudafed but he will be on cranberry is that okay?

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Hey wannagirl! Thought I'd just chime in and let you know that atomic suggests in her plans that you don't take sp for longer than 6 weeks before first attempt (2weeks on, 2 weeks off, 2 weeks on). I suppose (correct me if I'm wrong) its not ideal to be on it for ~too much~ of an extended period of time. This way, I guess, if you don't fall month 1, you can keep taking it for another couple of cycles?

As for vitex, its ok to start that sooner rather than later -- they say it takes 3 months to really do its thing in your system, so you can start that pretty much whenever. :)

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Originally Posted by hopingforsaskia

Hey wannagirl! Thought I'd just chime in and let you know that atomic suggests in her plans that you don't take sp for longer than 6 weeks before first attempt (2weeks on, 2 weeks off, 2 weeks on). I suppose (correct me if I'm wrong) its not ideal to be on it for ~too much~ of an extended period of time. This way, I guess, if you don't fall month 1, you can keep taking it for another couple of cycles?

As for vitex, its ok to start that sooner rather than later -- they say it takes 3 months to really do its thing in your system, so you can start that pretty much whenever. :)

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Okay thanks I'm just a little confused cuz I asked her a couple weeks ago and she said to start it AF-0 before first attempt at least thats what I think she said. But then I read what you said so I'm trying to conceive in April when do you think a good time to start Vitex and then when do I start sp? thx for your help.

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Originally Posted by hopingforsaskia

Hey wannagirl! Thought I'd just chime in and let you know that atomic suggests in her plans that you don't take sp for longer than 6 weeks before first attempt (2weeks on, 2 weeks off, 2 weeks on). I suppose (correct me if I'm wrong) its not ideal to be on it for ~too much~ of an extended period of time. This way, I guess, if you don't fall month 1, you can keep taking it for another couple of cycles?

As for vitex, its ok to start that sooner rather than later -- they say it takes 3 months to really do its thing in your system, so you can start that pretty much whenever. :)

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I agree with hopingforsaskia. I am pretty sure Atomic recommends starting your supplements 6 weeks before your attempt. So you would start it the first day of your period the month before your attempt. So you would take it from AF-0 then stop a day or so before you ovulate. Then start it again once you get your next period and take it up until a few days before ovulation then attempt to TTC that cycle. Does that make sense?

Vitex - if it were me, I would start that a few months before attempt month - AF-O of January or something, and the SP in the cycle for March - AF-O. (Just like peanut said. :) )

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Originally Posted by hopingforsaskia

Vitex - if it were me, I would start that a few months before attempt month - AF-O of January or something, and the SP in the cycle for March - AF-O. (Just like peanut said. :) )

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Ok I will do that with the Vitex and so do I take it everyday up until my attempt?

Deleeeeted... Double up! :)

Stop taking the vitex one or two days before Ov. That will probably coincide with your attempt anyway. :)

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Originally Posted by hopingforsaskia

Stop taking the vitex one or two days before Ov. That will probably coincide with your attempt anyway. :)

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Okay so for Jan, feb, and march stop taking V before my expected o days. and then start taking again right after my periods? Is that what you mean?

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Originally Posted by wannagirl21

Okay so for Jan, feb, and march stop taking V before my expected o days. and then start taking again right after my periods? Is that what you mean?

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That's how I took it.

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Originally Posted by BeadinMom

That's how I took it.

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Ok Beadinmom, you took yours 3 month's priar to your attempt as we'll, if you don't mind me asking when did you sway and what was the outcome? just curious. Thx

Hi, I hope this isn't hijacking, but can I ask what brand of SP you found in Australia? I saw two at the chemist this morning, but both had nettle and one also contained zinc, which I gather is not ideal for a pink sway? I think they were Blackmores (proserens?) and Nature's Something-or-other.. Oh and they both are sold as purely prostate support, so I expect I'll get some funny looks at the check out!

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Originally Posted by hopingforsaskia

Hi! :)

Vitex can be taken ASAP, 800mg each day for the first 14 days of your cycle. It does do "stuff" to your cycle, so I'd suggest going on that for a couple of months before ttc..

Saw palmetto is, recommended by Atomic, not to be taken prior to six weeks before attempt. I think it's a 320mg supp, taken once a day, but don't quote me on that..

They are ok to be taken together, so no worries there. :)

Best of luck!!! :)

Ps: I started taking SP and it's completely stuffed my ovulation for the month... So I'd just be prepared for that. :)

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Are you not supposed to take SP 6 weeks before attempt, I didn't know that, I am still taking it!!!! Have I screwed up!!

I stopped taking it. I'm having problems conceiving this time around, so I just started seeing a fertility specialist...I'm also older.

Peb, just make sure you don't take it after ovulation...can cause problems for male babies. It can also delay O.

Peb, I think you misread! Don't take it any more than 6 weeks before your first attempt. :)

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Originally Posted by wannagirl21

Hey Atomic I am trying to conceive in April 2013 so It's coming up fast and you told me to do Vtex and SP so when do you think is a good idea to start them? Also I was gonna take Zyrtec and give hubby sudafed but he will be on cranberry is that okay?

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If starting in April, you could start the V in March or even Feb. SP I would start in March.

DH seems to be able to handle Sudafed better, just give him one and not many doses.

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Originally Posted by Pink10

I am taking Vitex but ditched SP as it delayed ovulation from CD17 (average) to CD26 - sticking with the vitex though to sway. I did only take SP for one cycle (days 1-17) so maybe I should have stuck with it a bit longer - just couldnt bear another 40 day cycle!

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Stop the SP at CD 12 or 13 rather than going all the way to CD 17 - that's why O was so late.

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Originally Posted by pebmcp6

Are you not supposed to take SP 6 weeks before attempt, I didn't know that, I am still taking it!!!! Have I screwed up!!

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Before FIRST attempt!! If it takes you some months after you start it to get pg, that's going to add up to longer than 6 weeks on it.

I don't want anyone starting it like a year in advance, 6 weeks is enough, but you can keep taking it while TTC even if it's longer than the 6 weeks out.

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Originally Posted by wannagirl21

Okay so for Jan, feb, and march stop taking V before my expected o days. and then start taking again right after my periods? Is that what you mean?

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I typically have people start taking it on CD 1, first day of period.

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Originally Posted by wannagirl21

Okay thanks I'm just a little confused cuz I asked her a couple weeks ago and she said to start it AF-0 before first attempt at least thats what I think she said. But then I read what you said so I'm trying to conceive in April when do you think a good time to start Vitex and then when do I start sp? thx for your help.

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sometimes I abbreviate it as AF-O but what I'm trying to say is AF-day before O

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

sometimes I abbreviate it as AF-O but what I'm trying to say is AF-day before O

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Okay thanks Atomic for clearing this all up for me and you did say start V first of cycle and thats what i thought but was getting different opinions. Thx for your help :happy:

yes start V first day of cycle.

There are a couple herbs that you DON'T start the first day, but they are boy herbs.

Hello atomic, could u pls advice me? I ttc my girl in october. I finished to use birth control pill in july i had af in august and now i wait my ovulation. Should i start to use saw palmetto in september af-o and again in october af-o and ttc in october? Is it ok take it together with vitex and when should i start to use vitex? Is it enough in september af-o?
Thx for answer and hello from czech republic:)

I have your PM too Noemi, I keep running out of time before I get to reply, I'm sorry. I didn't forget you!

You can take Vitex and saw palmetto together. Do not mix SP with peppermint tea, though.

Yes, if you want to take V and SP you would take them AF-CD 12-14 (at your preference) or positive OPK, whichever comes first, for the two cycles and then TTC to catch the ovulation in the second cycle.