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Hello there
I am living in Switzerland and wondering if there is a closer country than the USA where I could do IVF/PGD to get a finally a Girl :pinksperm: after two lovely boys.
Does anybody know a clinic, doctor or could even give recommendation? :trips:
In advance thank you for your support.
Cath
Hiya Cath! Yes, PGD is available in Europe in Prague (**** and ********, they don't do PGD for family balancing openly, but if you discuss it with them in private they will let you choose the embryo) and Cyprus (use Savvas in South Cyprus, not the one up North!) Good luck, hope you get your little girl!
I can recommend dr Savvas Koundouros from the Genesis clinic in South Cyprus. I know many girls came back pregnant and I just gave birth to our IVF/PGD boy. We want to go back for a girl. Good luck!
Thank you for the info.
What are the approx. costs for IVF/PGD? How Long will it take and how often do you have to travel there?
Hi Castch,
I'm from Switzerland too and have also two little boys. Initially we wanted to go to **** in Prague but are hesitating due to the fact that although the clinic is doing PGD, Gender Selection is not fully compliant with the country's law. We therefore assume that the clinic doesn't perform as many PGD cases as a clinic does in a country where you can address the issue openly. Furthermore, their testing method is only FISH. Cyprus is no option for us as well. We are therefore thinking about the Middle East (we have to travel with both kids and my husband can only manage to be away from business for 2 weeks so we can't organize California at the moment). Good to read that I'm not the only one in Switzerland considering Gender Selection :-)
Why isn't south Cyprus not an option? I would never recommend north Cyrus but south Cyprus is oke to go!
During our search for a clinic we also contacted Genesis in South Cyprus and have not been satisfied with the answers to our questions. Choosing a clinic is a very personal choice. Unfortunately, in Europe there is hardly any choice....
Hi Swiss
Nice to hear that there is a mom in Switzerland too ;-)...
I am now following a threat at Gender Selection Guide "An die deutschen Mädels hier. Ich verstehe nur Bahnhof". It is in German and some of them have pritty Good experience with the ****. I contacted **** today and would like to try it this spring/summer...
Know the threat too...If I'm up to date than there is only one woman who cycled there. The other ones have only plans to go there. Wish you luck! May I ask you how old you are?
38 and you?
37 on Sunday :-) We'll try a clinic in Dubai. Going there end of February.
Swiss, are you aware of the fact that they are not allowed to freeze embryos in Dubai? In other words, if you have extra embryos they will be thrown away. This is the reason why I chose not to go to Dubai.
Yes. Should never cycle somewhere like that. At 37, you are likely looking at more than one try and that may include a FET. I can't imagine going through all this and then throwing "extras" of your DG in the trash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Claire33
It's also going to pressure people to put back too many embryos which can also prove to be disastrous. There are better options.
Yes, I'm aware of this factor and have decided to give it a try. I doubt that I will have various embryos of a good quality of the desired gender. I weight the fact that they (besides FISH) offer Microarray as a testing method with test on day 5 and transfer on the same day higher. It's a difficult choice if you need to find a clinic not as far as the U.S....
@nuthinbutpink: what better options are you thinking about?
If you choose to test on day 5 and your embryos are not at blast stage, they will not be able to wait to test on day 6 because it will be too late to transfer and they cannot freeze. The cycle will be a total waste. If you choose to go that route, I would test on day 3 for sure.
So many of us get pregnant via FETs but if you are fine risking it, that's your choice!
How many hours flight is Dubai from Germany? I'm from the Netherlands.
What if you end up with 3 XX. Are you okay transferring potentials triplets with a first cycle? Just lots of issues to consider.
@nuthbutpink
Good point reg. day 3 testing, thank you. Yes, it could be, in a very lucky case, that I will end up with 3 XX of good quality (and I won't implant 3 I guess) but the whole IVF/PGD journey is full of unknown factors you have to deal with..I learnt from this forum that PGD is kind of an art and experience as well as an up-to-date technology is key. PGD has hardly any history in Europe and therefore the clinics can't be as experienced as in other parts of the world..
May I ask you what are the costs for the whole treatment and which clinic and doctor you are considering?
Swiss, Check The homepage of ****. PGD is legal and only GS is Not 100% official....
Hello Castch
Yes I know - I wrote in my first reply to your threath that PGD is legal in the Czech Republic but GS is not...I will follow up on you reg. treatment costs in Dubai asap (have been away over the wknd)....
Treatment cost in Dubai (Fakih) are as follows (+/- the same as ****, although travel expenses are higher going to Dubai, of course)
IVF/ICSI + PGD (5 probe FISH) + Embryo Transfer: ca. USD 7671
IVF/ICSI + PGD (Microarray) + Embryo Transfer: ca. USD 10343
There are several clinic options. We contacted Fakih IVF and the newly openend branch of Bourn Hall clinic
Thank you Swiss for The info...
Are you not afraid of the long flight after the teansfer?
I am already worried of The flight from Prag to CH....
Castch,
Are you going to ****??
Yes I am considering to go there this Spring/Summer...
I'm going first week of February to freeze the sperm of my husband and then in March aprox. if I have succes with the embryos, I will go alone to Prague for the transference.
No, the flight is not something I'm worried about...but in the meantime there have been changing in our plans...I went to my Gyn last week and told her openly about our project. She immediately offered to support me but recommended (if the U.S. is not an option) to find a clinic in Europe. So **** is again on my radar as well as another clinic we are in contact with.
Swiss,
Is important that your Gyn knows about your project. My Gyn helps me a lot .:happy:
Hi, I am from Finland. We are going to genesis in April. We have two sons and are trying now for a girl. Has anyone been there? Where did you stayed?
Hi castch,
I'm also from Germany and are planing to go to ****.
Currently I'm waiting for my blood test results. Then we will see how it's going on.
hi all, does anyone know what the differences are between **** and ********? They are both CZ but I wonder whether one is better than another one for pdg? Thx
Ik denk dat niemand je dat kan vertellen ben ik bang......ik ben ook benieuwd.....
Ik denk dat ik het zelf zou moeten ondervinden…-) ben benieuwd naar de reacties van meisjes die naar **** zullen gaan of er al geweest zijn. :-)
Ik weet dus alleen van die ene die had een no transfer......1 gaat binnenkort met donor eitjes dus dat is toch ook weer anders.....en nog 1met haar eigen eitjes als ik het goed heb. Op betaalde gedeelte hebben ze cycle stickies. Dus ik hou ze in de gaten!
Anybody have any experience with Gennet.cz??
Just looking around...and was wondering.
I do not know if they would GS (in private) as other clinics in cz will..or so it is said..
I am also affraid about GS..what if you go through with it and they won't cooperate..
Never heard of them. Do they offer genderselection openly? I don't think so because its illegal there.....you can ask them if you can transfer the embryos you choose. Of they do then you can go ahead. But what if you have only the opposite gender what do you say to them?
As I said just looking around...for places that are close enough and to see if there are possibilities or not.
I understand. I'm curious too because CZ is less far the Cyprus.
I have heard about Gennet, there were some BFP there but as a result of IVF only and not PGD.
PGD is an whole different game i think....