Rate my sups?

I have been doing boy diet for about a week now, planning TTC in march, so I'd like to get everything down now! I will admit I'm having trouble with the diet... It feels like a lot of food and I feel too full. Anyhow, here is a list of sups for me and DH.

DH
Centrum forte multivitamin
Siberian ginseng 650mg
Folic acid 1mg
Omega 3 fish oils 1000mg
Brewers yeast 500mg
Green tea extract
Co enzyme Q10 200mg
Zinc 25 mg
Selenium 100mg

ME
Am:
Frolic acid 1 mg
Centrum forte multivitamin
Potassium 50 mg
Vit D 400iu
Omega 3 fish oils 1000
Evening primrose oil 1000
Brewers yeast 500

PM:
Folic acid 1 mg
Omega 3 fish oils 2000 mg
Evening primrose oil 1000 mg
Green tea extract
Co enzyme Q10 200 mg

QUESTIONS:
CoQ10 is 200 mg gel caps so I can't cut them in half. Should DH and I only take them every other day?

I bought a greens supplement with TONNES of stuff in it but I noticed when I got home another ingredient is soya lethicin. Should that be avoided?

I bought apple cider vinegar tablets with green tea added, but an ingredient I found once I got home is 28.75 mg of calcium. Is that enough to alter a sway?

I've made up DH's packets because the only question I really have for his is the Q10.

I'm still contemplating mine.

Thanks for any and all advice you wonderful ladies have!

soy lecithin is just a small amount of oil used to bind together supplements. It's not the sort of soy isoflavones that may sway. I'd be careful with the greens supplements tho - just because something is green doesn't mean it is necessarily good for you in very high amounts. I am very wary of the algae supps.

How much zinc is DH taking all together? Surely there is some in the Centrum. Don't give him more than 25 all together, so if he's already getting some in the Centrum, drop the additional zinc.

He should also be getting Vit. D and I would have the both of you taking more like 1000-1200 IU.

Do you mean MICROgrams of selenium? 100 MILLIgrams of selenium is way too much.

You are taking much more of the Omega 3's and EPO than I typically advise. Those are blood thinners and may be dangerous at that level.

The Coq10 is ~probably~ fine even at the higher dose, but just to be safe I'd give it to DH one every other day and for you every 2 days.

The calcium in the vinegar pills is just meant for the formulation of the pills. It doesn't sway (calcium may sway blue anyway).

I could live without the ginseng as I'm not convinced of safety, but that is your call to make. Some people think it works.

Thanks so much for getting back to me! So, I will start the Evening Primrose Oil at 500 am and 500 pm? The Fish oils I will take 1000 am and 1000 pm? The bottle says three caplets a day.

I'll take back the greens, I'm skeptical of any pill that says it has that much of so many things in it.

The centrum only has 7.5 of zinc, so with the 25 he is getting 32. Is that still too much?

Will increase vitamin D.

I am doing the everything but the kitchen sink sway with the exception of timing. We plan to DTD every second day through my cycle as this is our first time TTC.

Can you share what is unhealthy about the ginseng?

I appreciate you getting back to me! Thanks so much!

Oh yes, the selenium is micrograms, not milligrams! Had to read the bottle again.

Good thing I'm not a doctor, LOL.

I usually have people do 500 EPO and 1000 fish oil. The bottles have very high doses becasue they are for people who need high doses for lowering cholesterol - but you are using it for a totally different purpose and less may be more (you WANT some cholesterol, and also because of the blood thinning properties of the oils)

32 is ok, a bit high and I would not leave him on that dose in the long term. I'd prob. give him the 25 only every other day.

The ginseng may affect cell division and that may affect sperm negatively. Even if it makes more sperm and makes them move around more, they may not be as good as reg. old sperm. Plus the ginseng lowers cholesterol which in turn can lower testosterone. It also can raise blood pressure.

Oh dear I thnk my fish oil is 1000 too and I take them 2times a day!! I wasn't sure .. Is it best to take once?

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Oh dear I thnk my fish oil is 1000 too and I take them 2times a day!! I wasn't sure .. Is it best to take once?

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I don't KNOW that it's bad, it's just what my concern is. It can definitely be too much in terms of blood thinners though - are you having unusual bleeding or bruising or weird AF??

I did notice more Bloodat AF time but nothing else.. no bruising etc.. But i think i will stick to taking it once a day.. It was just that i seen some ladies had upped their fish oil intake to 2/3 xs and had said they had alot more EWCM..

Well, the prob is not just the heavier AF and bruising of course, it's that the blood thinners can make it more likely for you to have bleeding in your brain or stomach and that can be FATAL. So I just think it's best to use the smallest possible dose possible, and really 1000 mg fish oil plus 500 mg EPO/flax is PLENTY and may be too much for some people. i could never take that much, I would keel over dead from blood loss LOL

Need help: (not sure if I post here) I am having a hard time making my cm alkaline. I am have added alkaline fruits and veggies, red meat, lots of banannas, potatoes, raisin bran cereal, almonds, raisins, smoothie with the fruits and veggies with full fat milk etc
Supplements I am taking is fertile cm, vitafusion prenatal, extrea folic acid, green tea and alka seltzer gold. My dh was taking a multi vitamin cetrums but i bought the fertiaid for men to support healthy sperm so we will drop the multivitamin then. What else can I do to raise my ph? It is at a standing still 4.5. Not sure if being on birth control would affect my cm and make it stay low. I plan on getting off next month as we are going ttc for a boy this time. I already have two beautiful girls, 5 and 3.

Yes hun it's because you're on birth control. Your body will not be making alkaline CM and all that stuff you're doing is all in vain right now.

I do not EVER recommend Fertile CM. I feel like it messed up people's cycles very badly, dried up CM for more people than it helped, and made opposites.

DO NOT drop multivitamin! That's been one of our best sway tactics!!

I am also not a huge fan of Fertilaid for men, either. Some of the ingredients may sway pink - the ginseng I described above, and the maca is worrying for a number of reasons. I'd have him continue the Centrum.

Barely anyone on this site uses the ASG. It's up to you if you want to try it but you only need to do that around O.

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Oh dear I thnk my fish oil is 1000 too and I take them 2times a day!! I wasn't sure .. Is it best to take once?

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I just want to point out to anyone who stumbles onto this thread that I feel we have seen by far and away too many opposites with EPO (I have all but dropped that) and high doses of fish oil. This swayer got a pink opposite taking way too much fish oil and EPO as well.

So ladies, let's ditch EPO unless you are on a Paleo diet and have gotten girls that way and cut fish oil way, way down to more lik 250-500 daily MAX. (A pregnancy DHA supp also acceptible and possibly even better than the fish oil)

And if you are a vegetarian or vegan UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES take the EPO OR flaxseed oil that is recommended by some sway sites.

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Thanks for your reply.

The first picture is my prenatal (vitafusion.) The second is my husband's centrum multivitamin. Would you suggest my husband and I add any other supplements or just take prenatals? Such as Zinc, L arginne, folic acid, or fish oil (prenatal has dha in it and some fish oil.) I just want to make sure i am not taking too much that I would harm myself, my hubby or baby.
I was taking fertile cm and alka seitzer gold but will drop it. Also i am drinking 1 to 3 green teas. I am taking extra folic acid 3 of 400mg since prenatal already has 800mg, but alittle scared takiing extra because I heard if you take too much it can cause autism in baby or something like that. Then again I heard the extra salt, asg and green tea takes away some of it so I want to make sure I am taking enough. Hope this makes sense!

As for diet,
Breakfast cereal daily with full fat milk(never did with my girls.
Snack: bananna and v8 drink (healthy greens or veggie/fruit blend )
Lunch: canned soup with meat and vegetable, lunch meat with whole wheat bread or potato
Snack: smoothie with spinach, raspberry, blackberry, bana na and cup of full fat milk
Dinner: tacos, sloppy Joes, Swiss steak, pot roast, etc
Snack: almonds, raisins, sunflower mix

What is the quickest way to increase ph since we are trying next month and I will be getting off my birth control in 3 weeks? I was thinking my cm will prob not increase much more since just getting off bc. I am still sticking with diet though so hopefully it will help alittle. Currently i am 4.5. My husband is 8.5. For ttc, i plan on using baking soda finger hour before we dtd and right before dtd mix baking soda into preseed lubricant. I cant do the douche because I am probe to infections. Also have dh take cold shower or use ice, and drink coffee 30 to 1 hr before dtd. Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks in advance for any advice you can give us!

I'd rather have you switch to Centrum too (or Women's one a day) and continue giving that to DH. That isn't a bad vitamin but we can do better.

You do not need any extra zinc than what is in the vitamins.

No L-arginine for you, it's really messed up people's cycles. YOu can give to DH if he'll take it.

DHA supp or fish oil no more than 500 mg a day.

The folic = autism link is only at BIRTH and it is in women who for some reason can't get rid of it (very, very small minority of people) You will take it only thru the first trimester of pregnancy and then wean off gradually by spacing doses further and further out till down to one per week, then drop. I had a baby with neural tube defects taking 800 mcg a day and eating a super healthy diet too and I only had ONE green tea a day (no one knew about that when he was born) so yes I very much recommend taking the extra folic especially if you're doing that much green tea.

Your diet looks good, I do like you guys to have even just a little protein at every meal and snack and banana + V8 does no t have that so I'd try to maybe add in something with protein. (an egg, or some cheese?)

I would urge you to NOT take the birth control right up to when you're going to TTC. Stop it NOW and wait through your first period because we have pretty good results using BCP as a PINK sway tactic - people coming off BCP and trying to catch that first egg is very pink friendly.

I am not a big fan of baking soda stuff as it cuts odds of conception hugely and has never been proven to sway and you can read about that here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ph-pickle.html If you must do it, just be prepared to have BFN, don't be surprised if you don't get pregnant for a while!

DH does NOT need a cold shower or to ice his jewels. Heat hurts sperm. This does NOT mean that coldness cures them. It doesn't, and the claims made online are made by people selling stuff or else doctors who will tell people things simply to shut them up and get them out of their offices. The only men who benefit from doing things to cool down their sperm are men who have medical conditions or are exposed to heat and even then it is not the kind of thing you have to put ice on the nuts for 10 minutes to fix, but that they need to buy different underwear and change their habits ALL the time. A cold shower or ice before BD does absolutely nothing and may even harm his ability to perform by slowing blood flow.

I personally don't put much stock into coffee before BD. My husband never did that and we got 4 boys. Probably harmless though.

Ok I will get off the bc then and use protection for this month. It will be a good practice for bbt( which I have done previously with my girls), opks, and diet. The only reason I was waiting so my cycle would Can all in full moon phase.. I know silly, my husband thinks I was crazy but I thought maybe there was some truth to it since both my girls were conceived in New moon phase. However i decide not to mess with my cycle since you mention that getting right off bc may put me more in a girl territory.

Would women's one a day prenatal with dha be Ok? Below is the prenatal:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CD...=prenatal+dha#
I feel better taking a prenatal for some reason. Would I need to take fish oil if it has dha 200mg and fish oil 233 and epa 23mg already in it? What are your thoughts on royal jelly(however I can not recall if I was ever sting by a bee), false unicorn, coq10 (I am 34 and dh is 36), wheat grass pills/ powder or nutritional yeast flakes with to help increase my ph? Any other type of alkalinity tea that I can take that won't affect folic acid? I am trying to stay away from coffee which I love.

Do I need to still take more folic acid? I am going to stop taking green tea too so I don't have to worry about taking more folic acid and neural tube defects, just focus on diet to increase my ph. I will also take cough syrup only with guafesin to increase cm before ovulation. Last two pregnancy i took epo af to ov and flax seed oil after ov to af. But i notice you mentioned not to take epo in one of your posts. Hopefully the prenatal, lemon water, cough syrup, preseed and diet will be enough to increase ph unless you think other supplement(s) will help me. I am worried my sway isn't good enough because I am not taking all these crazy supplements other sway sites suggested. However i rather to be healthy and not do any harm to myself or baby.

How much L Arginne would dh need to take? Does he need more zinc (5mg) and folic acid (160mcg) than what Centrum provides? Would you suggest he take fish oil too? Coq10?
Thank you again for your help!

Honestly, I prefer the good old orange Women's One a Day. It has everything the prenatal One a Day has plus a lot of other good things in it and I got my last two boys taking it religiously. :) You would need to add in separate DHA vitamin (like Enfamil Expecta) but I really love that one. The One a Day prenatal is no better than what you're taking now and so just go ahead and continue that instead of switching just to save yourself some effort there. But if you did take the One a Day prenatal you would not need any additional fish oil or DHA.

I hate royal jelly. Not only is it potentially harmful (risks of allergies both now and in future) but it really messes up people's cycles. Scientists tested it and it had nothing in it but B vitamins (you will get these in your vitamin) and a small amount of protein and fatty acid you get 100x more of in a normal diet. I think it is a huge scam that has actually killed people and the only reason people think it does anything is because B vitamins make you feel a rush of energy (just like in energy drinks) but I don't recommend.

False unicorn root has nearly gone extinct in the wild so the majority of what is being sold now is some teensy amount of FUR mixed with a lot of mystery herbs that are either totally inert or may have harmful effects for your health and your sway. Avoid!

Wheat grass supps I feel like we've seen a lot of opposites with them. I am ok with wheat grass juice 2-3 times a week but I think we need to leave the wheatgrass supps behind.

Nutritional yeast is fine, not necessary though as you'll be getting all those good things in your prenatal. Fine if you want to use it though

If you drop the ASG and green tea it is ok to keep the folic acid to the amount in prenatal if you like.

Lemon water and fruit juice are both good for alkalinity.

Most guys take 250-500 mg. arginine but anything will help.

He's actually very likely getting more zinc via diet. We had very poor results with people taking too much zinc (it causes diarrhea which depletes nutrients from your diet anyway and too much zinc may harm sperm) so I'd have him just stick with that and then eat healthy. That's enough folic for him and he'll get more via diet anyway.

Fish oil 500 mg a day is fine for him. Coq10 100 mg a day also fine. But if he gets sick of the vitamins the coq is probably the least important.

Ok thank you soo much.

I couldn't find the dha supplement (i was looking for enfamil but it has prenatal with it. I cant buy it separately). I did look at other prenatals and found one that it is similar to one a day women, however the amount per serving on some minerals are different. Also it has molydbenum and soy letchin. Not sure what it is and if it will hurt my sway. Below is the vitamin called Similac prenatal
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Would this be ok? Otherwise do you know of a good prenatal or dha supplement (Maybe the name of the one you took) that will help my sway.

I found nature made 500mg fish oil pearls for hubby but it doesn't say mercury free.
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I think in another post u mentioned mercury free otherwise it will sway pink Where can I find mercury free?

That one looks good to me! The molybdenum is just a micronutrient your body needs a small amount of, the soy lecithin is just an ingredient used to formulate the vitamin tab that is present in tiny amounts and cannot sway.

Don't worry about the "mercury free" as long as you are getting a name brand (Nature Made is a name brand) It will be mercury free. I can even see on the bottle that it's been purified, that last little paragraph there means it is all good to take that. :)

Ok great. Thank you for all your help!

Does probiotics and garlic supplements sway? If so, do they sway blue or pink? I have IBS (started acting up again) and prone to yeast/ bacterial vaginosis. They have help me in the past. I was thinking of starting them up again but wasn't sure if it would hurt my sway. Is there a brand you would recommend if it is ok to take?

Both probably sway blue, the issue is that the garlic can kill off the probiotics too so you may want to take the probiotics daily and then the garlic only 2-3 times per week. You want to give the good guys a leg up without killing everything!

Also, garlic is a really strong blood thinner so if you are taking fish oil or DHA already that is even more reason to go very light or even not at all on the garlic - maybe see how the probiotics work on their own first

Ok I try the probiotics and see if it will help. Went to Dr yesterday and have a yeast infection. Here is the probiotics
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It has vegetable and soy in it though? Not sure if I should get another brand?

Is cm ph more important then diet to sway blue? I recently was testing cm around fertile time (opk confirmed and visible egg white... sorry tmi) and still 4.5. That is probably why I got an infection( seems to always recur when I check my cervix position and cm.) Should I just focus on my diet and not worry about my cm ph? Thanks for any advice you can give me.

The tiny amounts of that stuff are used to formulate the pills and cannot sway.

Diet I believe to be way, way, way more effective than pH. I really have a very hard time believing in pH at all any more since I've seen so many pH opposites including my own, I got a boy with pH of 4.5 to 5 range that I was testing 2-3 times a day for months and it did not go up till after I was already pregnant. I suspect very much that it's truly impossible to accurately test and know what your pH was with those strips since the vagina is always meant to be pH of 4ish and we don't know what is going on up inside our cervix anyway.

PLEASE no more checking your cervix and pH. I agree that was very likely why you got the YI.

i have the science against pH here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ph-pickle.html

What is your thoughts on preseed? I keep going back and forth on whether to use it or not. I am planning on using the babydust method for boy along with my diet and advice you gave me. She suggested not to use preseed or even condoms, etc since it might interfere with your sway. However i don't think my ecwm has changed much if at all. Tmi when I wiped I use some of the excess cm to test and it was in between 5 and 5.5. I have been drinking grapefruit juice and taking mucinex but I haven't notice a significant amount of cm. Not sure what I shoujld do.

Well, if you're not around O your pH may be low like that, it's normal. And it's also normal for the CM that comes out, to be much lower in pH than the stuff around your cervix since it's passed through the low pH vagina.

I believe Preseed helps or I wouldn't recommend it. Now, personally I got 4 boys and never touched the stuff but we do find that some girl moms do seem to have less EWCM than the boy moms. Totally up to you.

I prefer blue swayers don't use condoms either but for those who believe in timing, it's kind of a necessity.

How much full fat milk should i consume daily for boy sway? I put a little milk in my raisin bran at breakfast and have a cheese stick for snack. Some of my meals have cheese like tacos and chili. Also I take prenatal vitamins that have vitamin D 600iu and calcium 300mg. Is 2 percent milk ok? My girls drink 2percent milk and I usually buy a small of full fast. Or should I stay with full fat? And how much?

I prefer you guys do full fat but I got boys on 2% so I know it's possible.

I would drink the amount YOU like. That sounds fine. It is hard enough being on HE Diet without having to stuff yourself with yet another food! :) If you can get a full cup into the cereal, great.

Ok I think I have a short luteal defect. This is my second cycle trying but third cycle off birth control. Each month I have breakthrough bleeding around 7 to 9dpo and get period around 10 or 11dpo. I heard b6 can lengthen your luteal phase. Or flaxseed oil (only take ov to af)? Is this true? How much would I take and when do i start taking it? Or any suggestions on how to lengthen it? I saw ferticia ultragreens can lengthen it too but it has spirulina, algae and alfalfa and I think you said that might sway pink. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

No flaxseed, I think it sways pink and have seen tons of blue sway opposites in people using it. Plus, it messes up cycles and may not be safe.

Stay away from the ultragreens, that has all the same probs. as the flaxseed and then some!

What are you taking for your prenatal/multivitamin? What other supplements are you on??

I am not a huge fan of B6. I feel like 99% of the people who take it, it does nothing for, and about 75% of them end up also getting their ovulation delayed in addition to the B6 doing nothing to help their LP!!

Sometimes coming off the BCP that can happen for a few months. It will work itself out over time if you keep eating a decent amount of saturated animal fats like meat, dairy, eggs, butter.

The only supplements I am using is prenatals (similac) and mucinex (5 days before expected ovulation.) Sometimes i will drink green tea and take extra folic when i do drink it. The rest is focusing on diet.

Is alkalife booster drops ok for blue sway? Just wondering since I am worried about all this lemon water and it hurting my teeth?

:agree: Sounds good.

Alkalife booster is at your discretion, however since some of the "magic" is supposed to come from the lemon water somehow turning alkaline in your body, I am not sure that mixing the two of them makes any sense at all. The one would just undo the other.

I am fine with you leaving the lemon water out, but do be aware that lemon in water is not thought to cause harm to teeth. EAting straight lemons is, but one lemon in water over the course of a day (especially if you brush afterward) is not believed to cause harm https://www.thesmilecenter.com/is-le...ng-your-teeth/

Ok please remind me how you feel on timing cuz I feel I messed up. I was doing timing but this month I got a blazing more than 24 hrs after my first positive surge. I got my first positive at 1130 in the morning on cd 11. I continually test to see if i would get a blazing but stayed equal positive. We had sex cd 12 at 6am which would put be at 18 hrs later. I continued to test throughout the day to see if it got lighter but stayed equal. I got a blazing around 430pm on cd 12 which was more than 24 hrs after my first positive. We had sex again cd 13 around 630am, on my bbt it showed ovulation dip and at night cd 13 around 1130am to cover the blazing. Fertility friend confirms ovulation on cd 13. I had an ultrasound on 3 days later and the confirmed I ovulated but can't tell me the exact date. Also previous months I have bd about 16 hrs later after positive or blazing (i didnt get blazing every month) but never got pregnant so maybe I was bding too late and missed the egg. I don't know. Did you think I still have a shot at a boy? No matter what the gender is, I pray for a healthy baby.

I did follow with the boy diet...made sure to have protein with each meal and snack, added fruit and vegetables to my diet, full fat or 2 percent milk, red meat once daily, probiotics, similac prenatals, lemon water, alkalife pills 3x a day, green tea, extra folic acid, aviod cofee and didt coke, and use mucinex 3 or 4 days leading up to o. I also use preseed when doing bd. I did bsf 45 to 1 hr before bd for 2 out of 3 of our bd. Not sure what stress does, but my hubby and I were under lots of stress due to hurricane Irma prepations and hitting our area. What do you think? Should I worry about the timing or do you think diet is what will help? By the way I got my hpt+ on Saturday morning so I am pregnant. Any advice is appreciated!

Well, I got 3 boys with 2 day or longer cutoffs so I am not a big believer in timing AT ALL. We have found that having 2-3 attempts in fertile window sways blue and you did have that, so regardless of timing you were in with 2, probably 3 attempts which is soooo much better than one for a boy.

I am SO thankful you didn't get pregnant with that one attempt 16 hours after positive!! That would have been only one attempt and I'm so glad that this was the month for you. Diet looks nice too. I think you had a great attempt, and timing has been totally debunked anyway.

Question about sups! Why men's 50+ for DH versus a regular men's everyday?

It has a better combination of nutrients for a blue sway. That's all. I just like it better than the other one.

Has anyone ever heard of CLA pills? It is... (google definition) "CLA is related to the omega-6 fatty acids, one of the two types of essential fatty acids that help the body increase metabolic rates, boost the immune system and keep cholesterol levels in check. CLA is found in dairy and animal fats, such as beef, lamb, whole milk, and eggs, but cannot be produced by the human body."

I wonder if these would be more beneficial than EPO for a vegetarian swaying? Or is just fish oil fine?

NO, because it's the Omega 6 fats that have been shown in studies to sway pink (and EPO has Omega 6 in it.)

Just leave the EPO out and use vegetarian Omega 3.

I keep reading posts about supps but can’t figure out a shortened version, what are the most important / effective supps for blue sway for hubby and I ? I don’t want to take a huge list of them x

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I keep reading posts about supps but can’t figure out a shortened version, what are the most important / effective supps for blue sway for hubby and I ? I don’t want to take a huge list of them x

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Multivitamins
500 mg fish oil
Vit D 1000 IU
Folic acid or folate to total 2000 mcg (especially if doing any green tea)