~Hypnobirthing~

In 2007 I gave birth to my 1st daughter. It was a horrific experience and made me lose alot of faith in the medical profesionals.
So In 2009 I gave birth to my 2nd daughter using hypnobirthing techniques And it has been one of the best decisions I have ever made.

I'm pregnant now with my 3rd, and I am wanting another birth like hers. I'm hoping to find other hypnobirthers, or other 100% natrual birthers or silent birthers so share positive storys and advice with as hypnobirthing is strongly based on positive thinking and I would love that support.

Alternatively, If there is none of you out there but there is someone who wants to learn how then I would love to help you learn how to do it. Any woman can do it. ANYWOMAN!

So yea, hopefully I find someone to chat too :)

Here is a good artical to read about hypnobirthing and also a beautiful 100% no gore video of a hypnobirth.

HypnoBirthing. - Free Online Library

Daisy's HypnoBirth Homebirth Waterbirth - YouTube

I haven't done hypnobirthing but am very interested in doing something in preparation for my next baby. Definitely planning to read Birth Skills by Juju Sundin.

I had a difficult birth 1st time around as well then an amazing, quick drug free birth for DS2 so hoping for more of the same this time. I'm also thinking about having a water birth this time.

Are you birthing at home or in hospital Elements?

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I haven't done hypnobirthing but am very interested in doing something in preparation for my next baby. Definitely planning to read Birth Skills by Juju Sundin.

I had a difficult birth 1st time around as well then an amazing, quick drug free birth for DS2 so hoping for more of the same this time. I'm also thinking about having a water birth this time.

Are you birthing at home or in hospital Elements?

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I would love to birth at home and am confident I could, But I'm an hour from the hospital and after my first birth my husband wants me where I can get medical help if it is needed. So ill be making the awful trek to the hospital.

If you want a good book to read I would like to recommend 'hypnobirthing' by marie mongan. Is like my bible.

WOW!! Elements what an amazing little read! I'm so interested in this now it's something I've been wanting to practice after having an emergency c section with my DD.. And only dilating or rather "expanding" 2cms I haven't yet experienced labour.. But just wanted to make it calm experience.. Compared to how frightened I was with DD it was a terrible experience being induced and given Artificial pains and then to be told I would need an emergency csection!

Would you know where we can get hold of Micky mongals book?

Ps I would LOVE to get some infromation from you about hypnobirthing and how your experience was!

Sure thing!

Im in New Zealand, but I brought the book form here: Hypnobirthing: The Breakthrough Natural Approach to Safer, Easier, More Comfortable Birthing - The Mongan Method : Mixed media product : Marie Mongan : 9780757302664 It has free shipping. But I see your in New York, you might have better book stores there that might stock it.

The book is the best place to start. Its sets things in motion and explains things correctly.

My birth story is in the stories part of the forum, http://genderdreaming.com/forum/birt...ypnibirth.html (excuse the type in the heading lol)

Why did you need to be induced? And why did you need a ceaser? I'm at the full belief that inducement Is well over prescribed

Thanks for the info Elements, i find it all very interesting. I just ordered the book :)

I had a very natural birth with my first son but was still petrified! I only read about hypnobirthing thing for number two and can honestly say I loved my birth! I read a lot about breathing techniques and opening up throughout labour, using movement and focusing. We had a water birth but that was the only 'pain' relief. It was lovely and I'd highly recommend it, very empowering, I delivered my own baby with no intervention from a midwife, she was simply there to fill my tub! Hahaha :D

Hypnobirthing rocks :) I had a very stressful hospital birth with ds1 so when I feel pregnant with ds2 I vowed to have peaceful homebirth I took a hypnobirthing course and it was the best thing I ever done, ds2 was born very quickly (1hr45mins) we had to call the amboa as midwife wouldnt have made it I had the most peaceful, practically pain free water birth I needed no other form of pain releif the ambos couldn't beleive I was ready to push when they got there as I made no noises he said he'd never seen such a relaxed mummy b4 :) I'm now expecting my 1st dd any day and have been practising my hypno everyday I do marie mongan too! I 100% recommended any1 to try it :) xx

I am a hypnotherapist and I specialise in hypnosis for childbirth. Up until my DS, I had been helping ladies out just through belief in the system but having gone through it myself, I am more convinced than ever that everyone should be made more aware of how wonderful birth can be. My son's birth took place over 4 days-I think I was so in my zone that I forgot to focus on getting him out at times. I had a lovely water birth and can't wait to do the same for my next one. I think the most important thing I do wiht my clients is help them get past bad previous birth trauma as this gets rid of the panic some women feel thinking about giving birth a second time. If anyone wants any info on it, just message me-am more than happy to chat about it. There is hypnobirthing which is the trademark registered system by Marie mongan but nowadays a lot of therapists are doing independant training so that you can adapt the system to different needs. I highly recommend finding someone that'll offer you exactly the format to suit your life-the main concepts are the same but the delivery of the info is different-for eg. I don't tend to see people in groups but prefer a 1:1 (or with partner) session format.
I grew up convinced I would go in birth asking for every drug available having been told I was a wimp and firmly believed this. I only had water to help breathe my baby out, no complications and no drugs. I help people to prepare for whatever they end up having as with the best will in the world, sometimes things veer away from your birth plan. There are many good books out there and I would say that requesting them from your library and reading these through pregnancy will do more good than rereading any normal birth books which seem to embrace the medical model of pain management.

I am listening to hypnobirthing by GentleBirth(the Irish one, I know there is a UK one too) programme for a successful VBAC. After an emergency c-section with DD after 3 days of labour I am really looking at what can help make my birth experience positive this time around.

I was looking up this yesterday... I am interested in it all three of my labours were super intense and the thought of this labour is terrifying me... I've had an epidural twice and my second son was natural only cause he was my 30 min labour which was my most painful labour...

I've hypnobirthed both times and really recommend it.

DS1s was a silent labour then a hospital bed birth using Marie Mongan Hypnobirthing. Story here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/birt...tions-all.html

DS2 was a birth centre water birth, again reaching 6cm without feeling a twinge and using a mix of Hypnobirthing and Natal Hypnotherapy (which I preferred). Story here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/birt...rth-story.html

Wow! I was not expecting this much response to this thread! The usual response is "Good luck with that, I wish i could do it but I need every drug under the sun because I have difficult labours." Which is the exact attitude we have all had embedded into us our whole lives and I'm hoping to make woman aware that this attitude is not how it needs to be at all!

Rainbow flower - what was the main differences between the two styles? I'm abit concered if I use any other style then what worked for me with DD2, I may muck myself up and not be able to be focused.

Cinss - Yay for buying to book, I cant wait to hear you feed back on it and if you need any additional resources I know where you can source them for a good price (it cannot be given away do to copyright laws)

My mum and my overweight smoker sister had natural drug free births with all theirs. My MIL only used the gas &air with her 7. So i was aiming for a natural intervention & drug free birth with DD. so when that didn't happen I felt like a complete failure. It was the medicated birth that was the foreign concept for me.

Whats silent birthing?? I like to got to the hospital on my own and just rock away with the gas and air, I looove gas and air lol and then i buzz the midwife to see the head out. Is that like silent birthing??

When I was shadowing my OB there was a woman in full blown labour and had a smile on her face the entire time no pain at all it was amazing and I always wondered how do I do that?! Lol I am going to def be looking more into it :)

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My mum and my overweight smoker sister had natural drug free births with all theirs. My MIL only used the gas &air with her 7. So i was aiming for a natural intervention & drug free birth with DD. so when that didn't happen I felt like a complete failure. It was the medicated birth that was the foreign concept for me.

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:( Thats a very common feeling.

The problem these days, is we are taught all about what could could go wrong and what the process are when that happens. It become the main focus of our labours. If more time was spent teaching woman how to Breath and relax and enjoy their labours then THAT would became the main focus.

How do you think woman laboured back in the day? the elder woman taught them how to do it. No one teaches us anymore. We just have the "SURPRISE - now figure it out" system going. And because we dont know how to figure it out, we instinctivly reach for the drugs and the medical team because that is what we have been taught so that is were we seek comfort.

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Whats silent birthing?? I like to got to the hospital on my own and just rock away with the gas and air, I looove gas and air lol and then i buzz the midwife to see the head out. Is that like silent birthing??

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Some cultures believe that the room must be silent when a baby is born. No talking at all. not even noise from the birthing mother.

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Rainbow flower - what was the main differences between the two styles? I'm abit concered if I use any other style then what worked for me with DD2, I may muck myself up and not be able to be focused.

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I found that aspects of them complemented each other well. Hypnobirthing is more prescribed in that you do specific breathing exercises for relaxation/contractions/birth breathing, and other complementary things such as visualisations/light touch massage. The birth affirmations from the Hypnobirthing CD were fab and really helped me.

Natal seemed a lot more "follow your instincts" and just keep breathing calmly no matter what. The lady on the CD has a nicer voice IMO, I liked the self hypnosis track on the CD as it also contained reference to the pain dial within it so I'd pinch myself during it and use the technique to practise numbing the feeling. There was a more simple breathing exercise so easier to practise and easier to follow during the birth.

They both teach a variety of tools and suggestions for coping with pain and making your birth easier/faster that you can optionally learn (visualisation/pain dial/numbing hand/distraction such as counting/massage/movements), both emphasise relaxation and breathing as the key thing. I'd perhaps say that the Natal one also has more of the techniques in it. Hypnobirthing only advocates light touch massage, for example, but Natal even says that a rough pelvic massage can help with tension and also can be used to reduce stress hormones when in transition or when you lose it a bit so you can refocus and even though I hadn't known about this the first time we had instinctively done it and it had helped a lot.

They both include birth stories of women who have tried the techniques successfully so it's good for outweighing any negative stories you're told. They also both go into a lot of detail about the physiology of birth so you can learn how to make it work for you and can even tell dilation without actually being examined in active labour.

I used the breathing exercises and relaxation CDs of Natal, the visualisation of Hypnobirthing (in the early stages), and the affirmations of Hypnobirthing. Also used movement and the back massage that Natal promote.

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Whats silent birthing?? I like to got to the hospital on my own and just rock away with the gas and air, I looove gas and air lol and then i buzz the midwife to see the head out. Is that like silent birthing??

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From a medical perspective, a silent labour is when you are contracting and dilating but unable to feel it and unaware that you are in labour because of that. I reached 7cm without a single twinge with DS1 and had no idea I was contracting/in labour, and only knew because we DTD and it made me bleed so we went to hospital to get it checked out and they examined me to find a cause for the bleeding. I actually reached 6cm without a twinge with DS2 but didn't progress further than that until I had a sweep to kickstart active labour (and felt that then!)

Apparently it's very unusual, but I know a few women who have experienced the same thing and most of them were also hypnobirthers oddly enough.

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Originally Posted by Elements

Some cultures believe that the room must be silent when a baby is born. No talking at all. not even noise from the birthing mother.

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That's not quite the same thing as silent labour, see above!
Although a silent room can definitely help the mother go within to her natural birthing mind easier (with a less active brain/stimulation).

Wow thanks rainbow! I might look into that also. Can not hurt.

And thanks for the silent info too. not something I know about, just know off :)

Hey elements!
The hospital my DD was born in are always looking for the last resort and of purse keeping mummy and baby's health number one priority .. I have cronic Hep B and my waters had broken but no signs of dialating and they wanted to reduce any risk of baby getting the virus therefore had to induce me. It was by far one of the most horrible nights I have ever experienced I cried so much I wasn't allowed to go home and rest in peace and because DH couldn't stay with me.. And then I had some gel which was placed up me to soften cervix I believe. By 8am they had to give me artificial pains because the whole night had passed I was hardly 2cm, so as my pains were slowly increasing and with each contraction baby's heart beat kept getting lower and lower. The midwives were ABSOLUTE darlings, they tried to get me in difference positions and by 10am they got the doctors to have a final check and confirmed it would need to be a c section as baby's heart beat was plummeting so much they didn't want to risk it! At that point I just couldn't care as long as baby was safe and healthy!

I will order book on amazon, I would love to read up about this peaceful way of giving birth. Thank you for the link definitely have a read !

I got the book :) i read about half of it last night, off to read some more.

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Originally Posted by Cinss

I got the book :) i read about half of it last night, off to read some more.

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What are your thoughts so far?

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What are your thoughts so far?

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Loving it actually, its really opening my eyes up about what really happened with my first birth. I was so controlled by the staff at the hospital and it ended with an episiotomy and they suctioned DD out. Thinking about it now i should have come off my back so that her heart rate didnt drop like it was. And they scared me by telling me if i pushed i would inflame my cervix and need a C/S, so the whole time i was tense and by the time they were about to take me into surgery she was almost out, they should have let her come out naturally but they cut me instead. That makes me a bit sad, but i feel like this book is giving me all the information i need to take with me next time so i can be in control of my birth.

Now i have read the breathing techniques and most of the visualisations, i just need to practice them daily from now, i have about 10 weeks left of this pregnancy to prepare, and i am feeling confident, i will be reading these parts over and over until i have them mastered.

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Originally Posted by Cinss

Loving it actually, its really opening my eyes up about what really happened with my first birth. I was so controlled by the staff at the hospital and it ended with an episiotomy and they suctioned DD out. Thinking about it now i should have come off my back so that her heart rate didnt drop like it was. And they scared me by telling me if i pushed i would inflame my cervix and need a C/S, so the whole time i was tense and by the time they were about to take me into surgery she was almost out, they should have let her come out naturally but they cut me instead. That makes me a bit sad, but i feel like this book is giving me all the information i need to take with me next time so i can be in control of my birth.

Now i have read the breathing techniques and most of the visualisations, i just need to practice them daily from now, i have about 10 weeks left of this pregnancy to prepare, and i am feeling confident, i will be reading these parts over and over until i have them mastered.

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Very similar my my first birth. I started practicing with 10 weeks to go aswell. Is there a way on here to PM? I have something I could send you that might help you out