Interesting observation (re: team green)

The following observation does not apply to ladies on here...since we have knowledge about dieting and swaying and other factors that would negate what I am about to say.

But in the "real world," I notice that far more "team green" babies are boys rather than girls. I am *thinking* it has to do with the population of women who desire to have a surprise gender child (I think it's a little more common among "crunchy" ladies) are mostly likely to be well-nourished with organic, whole, and powerhouse foods. It seems like their babies are planned (aka: taking prenatals, maximizing health, lessening stress). So I am guessing it has to do with the accidental "sway" that people are doing without really knowing it.

But am I alone in this observation? Anyone have the opposite experience (among non-swayers)?

Off hand, I can list TWO babies who were girls and a surprise at birth. And I can list ELEVEN boys! These are among friends (everyone in my family finds out. Lol). It's just really interesting to me!

Well you can add me to the count. Two more for the blue side. I wish I knew anyone else in real life that had gone team green. The only other person I can think of was a lady in my birth month group. She had four boys and went team green for her fifth, which turned out to be a girl.

I actually only know of one friend who was team green & she had 3 girls....
I think my boy mom friends are control freaks who need to "prepare", so they must know...LOL.

What you said makes perfect sense though, Hotdogz!!

I'm definitely crunchy and have two boys.
Both were planned and I took prenatals months I'm advance.

My boys are still crunchy but I've dramatically changed diet for girl.

I am part crunchy and my babies were all planned (well twin 2 was a surprise ;) ) I have actually seen more girls being team green which is partly why I want to try team green even though I know it will not make a difference but we do all we can to get out GD even if it is supersticious. I'm in NZ though and I am not sure crunchy Mums are that common in my area.

What's team green?

Team green means not finding out until birth.

It's called team yellow, too. :)

I can think of 8 team green pregnancies from my friends/family. Count would be 3 girls 5 boys (set of twins) and the last pregnancy is 1 week over due! I've always found out with my babies.

I've totally always found out too (control freak here!! lol) I consider myself half-half in crunchy world. I have a lot of the habits, but can't say I always ate the crunchy lifestyle ;) I like my processed junk too much! (But did have two boys anyway)

But my friend circle is mostly crunchy-type and those are the folks who are not finding out. It just got to a point last week where I wanted to mention it, because it was shocking to me. A good friend delivered her third team green boy. I was like "wow it's boy world around here."

It's interesting that others have the opposite experience. I wonder if locale makes a difference, since some areas (Washington state, Oregon, parts of New England) are known to be crunchier (btw: I do hate that term, but can't think of a more suitable to describe what I mean).

We want to try team green for our last. But help me, I have no idea how I'll hold out (and DH is even worse!!)

Same. I want to be team green for number 6. I'm determined to be since it might be our last. However DH says no way he is going team green. So he we know, and I will not!

I know heaps of team green and its 50/50 pink and blue approx in my circle

^^Thats actually what the friend I was talking about in my earlier post did. Her husband has known all three times and she hasn't. And she has never been any the wiser, he must have a great poker face! He uses both gender pronouns all the time. And argues equally for names even though he doesn't have to. But it's still amazing to me!

I'm not finding this time. If It's a third boy I'll find out at birth!

You could be onto something with that idea:) It does seem to be a certain mindset who dont find out. Saying that the 2 times they asked and I didnt find out I had girls :)

I am definitely what you could class as part-crunchy - BF past a year, cloth nappies, HOME-EDUCATING :wink: but I've always wanted to find out the gender at 20 weeks. DH hasn't wanted to though, he's not crunchy at all. Ds2 forced us into team green as he gave NOTHING away at his 20 week scan. My cousin who has 2 girls has always found out as soon as she could way before the anomaly scan. I don't really think there's anything in it, tbh :)

I thought "team yellow" was not having any idea, but "team green" was if you thought you'd glimpsed a winky during a scan (without finding out gender) and suspected that your team yellow baby was a boy!

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Originally Posted by rainbowflower

I thought "team yellow" was not having any idea, but "team green" was if you thought you'd glimpsed a winky during a scan (without finding out gender) and suspected that your team yellow baby was a boy!

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Sorry, no idea there. I only heard the term green when I first joined this site & have only recently heard of team yellow too. Either way ds2 was a surprise :D

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I thought they were the same thing...I thought it was b/c gender neutral clothes are green or yellow?

I think they are the same but team green sounds cooler because it kind of rhymes. I think more people tend to buy yellow though. Actually if it were based on most common colours I'd call it team white! sorry, don't want to confuse anyone.

Does anyone know the actual definition of the term crunchy Mum or how it came about because I have always thought it a strange term? I am strongly into attachment parenting but I'm not overly into the organic stuff and cloth nappies like some seem to. I'd like to if I had time but I will worry about saving the earth later when I am not so tired! Is crunchy more eco Mum or AP mum or both?

Majority of my Team Green people I know have had boys .... but then gone onto have girls.

I'm definitely not crunchy, nowhere near, and yet I'm a boy maker!

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Originally Posted by 1+2+3boys

I think they are the same but team green sounds cooler because it kind of rhymes. I think more people tend to buy yellow though. Actually if it were based on most common colours I'd call it team white! sorry, don't want to confuse anyone.

Does anyone know the actual definition of the term crunchy Mum or how it came about because I have always thought it a strange term? I am strongly into attachment parenting but I'm not overly into the organic stuff and cloth nappies like some seem to. I'd like to if I had time but I will worry about saving the earth later when I am not so tired! Is crunchy more eco Mum or AP mum or both?

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I don't know what the official crunchy definition is but I agree. I can do parts of crunchy like extended breastfeeding, bed sharing and even a bit of baby wearing but I seriously don't have any desire to do cloth nappies, crusty underpants from badly wiped bums are bad enough.
Organic food? Nah! Too cheap to pay for stuff that goes rotten quicker, deacon breastfeeding them set them up well enough. Have lots of respect for those who choose that path, but not my style

I always just lumped crunchy as anything that was "more" natural than the alternative. Like breastfeeding is "more" natural than formula. Organic meat is "more" natural than not. Sort of like test-of-time stuff, if they did it in 1800s it was prolly crunchy. But that is my rudimentary definition to keep it categorized in my brain. Lol. I do think it encompasses both Eco and AP methods. Simply for the "natural" aspects. But they really need some new terms. They all suck. (BTW: I love cloth diapers!! Haha.)

I would be interested in a study on the stats of gender in "crunchy" moms. If there is a variance in expected outcomes. Or if it's just what I see (much like there are more boys here, period, evidenced in class rosters).

I just hear it called team green often. Yellow works. White works. I never want to call them surprise babies though...because to ME a surprise baby is an unplanned pregnancy. Whichever way you wanna slice it...

How Crunchy Are you?

I found this 'How crunchy are you?" survey just for fun and scored 103 so pretty in the middle. I looked online for a definition but they are all pretty different and or broad

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Originally Posted by Minky

Majority of my Team Green people I know have had boys .... but then gone onto have girls.

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Almost everyone I know finds out. I only know two couples--both crunchy--who stayed green. The one just had their first, a boy. The other had a boy and then a girl. Staying green actually made me much, much less happy for the BG couple than I might have been because it increased my perception that they float through life on a smug little fartcloud of breezy entitlement. I'm already not happy for pigeon pair families (sorry) but imagining their happiness made me seethe. I guess it's because they assumed the sex would be a wonderful surprise, and it was. I found out so I would know which names to focus on and because I always want to know as much as possible--I can't even think of a situation where I have chosen to know less or know later about anything in life, period. My husband and I have another issue (which we don't discuss with people we know) which is that he had a sibling who died before he was born who had a genetic disorder with an intersex condition and ambiguous genitalia. Biologically this sibling was XY but it was the 70s when the solution to many intersex conditions was to have surgery and raise them as girls so in his family this biological brother is always referred to as his sister and they always say "she." It's so very rare and caused by a spontaneous mutation so it's not something we actively worry about but we also never even considered not finding out the sex. I just don't assume the sex of my child will be a "wonderful surprise."

Great quiz 1+2+3boys! I scored 127, but found some questions a bit too limited with the answers. I'd never even heard of the term 'crunchy' before this thread started, but I always belonged in the 'other' camp at toddler groups!! Now I'm so much further into that other camp! Btw at all the home-ed groups we attend most have mixed-gender families so although we're seen as alternative there isn't a trend towards boy-mums being more 'crunchy' there at all.

Sorry, that post makes me sound like I have a huge chip on my shoulder about staying green and I generally don't. It's just that the intersex condition isn't something I can explain to people and I kept getting a whiff of superiority from the wife in this couple over being team green. I eat/feed my kids natural foods, breastfed (but not exclusively) and did cloth diapering but I'm not crunchy, by the way.

It annoys me if people try to make you feel bad for finding out, there are still so many surprises like what baby looks like etc. I am sure if I do go team green for our last one I will get some negative comments too. I have felt like people who have had surprises seem to be 'rewarded' with the opposite gender but that is just me of coarse and I do not know many people who go team green these days.

I would so love to try cloth but I struggle enough keeping up with the washing and I have two babies so twice the loads!

Holy crud that quiz said I was super nutty! Lol. I got 145. Apparently it believes I am more crunchy than I do! Lol.

It's funny, I never have heard negativity toward team green. I guess I can see it though. I just have liked knowing from a loss perspective. We lost 4 babies (all first tri) and I always am paranoid thru the whole pregnancy that we may lose the baby. And I think "knowing" things about them helps me attach and stop holding the pregnancy at arm reach. But I do want to experience team green. I think both ways are totally fine. But I don't get too worked up no matter what parenting choices someone makes, I am pretty easy-going.

95, a bit crunchy but not too crunchy.

104 somewhat crunchy...just happy to finally know what it means! Cute survey!

2 team green boys here. 150 on crunchy scale altho I cheated a bit on the diapers part - we used cloth with our older boys and my husband absolutely forbade me to do it with our younger ones. Cloth diapers didn't use to be nice like they are now and he really put his foot down on that!

Something else I thought of re boys and team green is that some crunchy types believe ultrasounds are harmful and should only be used in cases of medical need.

I do think crunchy moms tend to ahve more boys as a general rule.

crunchy = granola = hippies

Granola used to be a rather weird food that wasn't available in the regular grocery store. You'd have to go to a health food store to get it (along with yogurt which was also a bit of an anomaly) Hippies made their own granola.

I had no idea what crunchy meant until a few months ago...I thought it meant women into fitness and doing lots of ab crunches or similar.