BEFORE O or AFTER O.....that is the question!

I have been asking a few mamas about how they got their girls....but I still can't "pinpoint" or give myself a clearer path on which to choose.

Do I want to DTD a few days before ovulation/avoid o?

Or do I want to abstain for a long period of time (7 or longer days) and then ONLY DTD after O?

Its like 50/50. Some moms swear that they got their DD's by DTD a few days before O (like the shettles method)

But some swear that its after O.

Can anybody add insight? Or does anybody feel like they are just "lost" as what to do?

I have pretty much figured out I will do the girl diet hardcore for 6 weeks, take all the supplements, testing my PH, shallow almost "pull out" method, and a lime douche. BUT I CANT FIGURE OUT if I should be trying for before O or after O.

1 thing I know for sure is that I am avoiding O. LOL.

I hear a lot of people saying that doing it before O, (shettles method) results in more boys than girls (failed sway).

Any help? The more I research, the more I still get 50/50 answers.

Yes. timing is the most confusing thing for me as well. My first boy we dtd on ovulation day and my second boy was the day before ovulation. I tried diet/supplements for my last boy but my diet wasn't great after now reading up on the diet more in depth. I was thinking of O+12 and abstinence for 10 days but we will both probably be 37/38 for our attempt and I think they say if you are older O+12 plus abstinence can cause miscarriage/birth defects??

I have also read that many people think shettles results in heaps of opposites? I think 3 days before dtd results in most girls?? But I tried for months to dtd at 2/3 days ovulation and I couldn't get pregnant. So frustrating and confusing. I think for me I may have to dtd right on ovulation to get pregnant but I am so worried about this as this is how I got the boys. But this time I will do a hardcore diet and different/more supplements.

If I was to try a cut-off again I will use rephresh as that sounds good to keep ph low. I think though I will start with O+12 (with abstinence and hope baby is healthy) although people say its nearly impossible to get pregnant with O+12?. I was thinking of using rephresh up until ovulation day and then aci-jel at the O+12 attempt (and use sylk as lube) ?? So confusing as I really want to do the best possible timing for a girl but cut off or dtd very close or on ovulation day really worries me.

Hopefully someone can offer some advice!

Hey Jude :) I am glad that i am not the only one confused by all this conflicting info :) LOL. I am leaning towards a O+12, but I have no idea how to figure that out.

Can somebody help me figure this out? So if I start using OPK's, and I get a darker line, darker than the control line, does that mean "O" is going to happen, and I just have to "guess" and check my CM, and when the EWCM is gone, THEN add 12 hours?

I tried O+12 with my last sway. I've gotta say it's realllly hard to pinpoint the right moment. I got it wrong despite using a combination of OPKs, temp charting and looking for saliva ferning with a microscope and . I ended up with O-10 or something like that, and got ds3. I think I'm going to avoid trying it this time - I'm also not going to do a long cut-off since I'm 36 and want to get pregnant quickly. I'm thinking maybe a 1-2 day cut off for me.

This is the hardest decision for me! I don't know if I feel comfortable enough with knowing exactly when I ovulate to do O+12....anyone else nervous about this? OPK's are always + for me, I have no idea why. I do have very painful ovulation so I know "about" when I O but can't pinpoint it. :(

Did you guys see that chart of sorts on IG that showed the % of how many sways ended up successful with all combos of how they sway/what they did......very useful. Makes me want to do diet+supplements+3 day cut off.

Mochagirl, I am thinking the same thing, how do you plan to detect 2 days before O? Would you go with your first positive OPK? I have OPKs and am hoping to try in July, am aiming for 2-1 (probably 1) day and bought a CBFM too. Would love to know what you are thinking , I too think O+12 seems to dodgy ( I'm in my late 30s).

Man its so hard for me to decide if to try again for a 3 day cut off or O+12. It would be easy if I had managed a 2/3 cut off last time and got a boy (would then know a cut off didn't work) but I didn't (I only had a 1 day cut off) so now I still have no idea if I would be better off trying a cut off or O+12. Or does timing not really matter and you should just aim for ovulation day! Its sooooo confusing!

I get a fade in effect my opk's. A faint line for 1 or 2 days and then a positive result. I think the faint lines would give me the 2 to 3 day cut offs so if I try cut off again I will try the night of the faint tests only. When I tried last time I read about lots of girls who had conceived girls by dtd the night of a positive opk. I wasn't getting pregnant by dtd before the positive opk so I dtd the night of the positive test but I got a boy!

I think it depends on how quickly you want to get pregnant. Generally, alot of people had success with abstain plus 3 day cut off. Personally, I want to get pregnant as quickly as possible so I'm going to do frequent bedding and dtd on the first day of getting a positive opt, if this doesn't work I'll go one day closer on the next cycle. I'm trying to be relaxed about it, I have stressed alot but now I feel quite happy with my decision. If I didn't want to get pregnant so quickly I think I would try abstaining for a couple of months but I HATE this diet!!! There is no way I could do o+ 12 as I just couldn't pin point it and I think it would be quite stressful.

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Originally Posted by fourwildones

Mochagirl, I am thinking the same thing, how do you plan to detect 2 days before O? Would you go with your first positive OPK? I have OPKs and am hoping to try in July, am aiming for 2-1 (probably 1) day and bought a CBFM too. Would love to know what you are thinking , I too think O+12 seems to dodgy ( I'm in my late 30s).

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Yes - I think I'll start my cut-off at the first +OPK. I'm also tempted to do frequent BD leading up to then, because, as I said - I want to get pregnant quickly. I have loooong periods (7+ days if I include spotting), so the time between the end of AF and O is pretty short - I may just BD every day between those times since it really only amounts to 3-4 days or so. The only day I don't want to BD on is O day, because that's when all my boys were conceived.

I'm planning exactly the same as you, mochagirl! Let's hope we both get pregnant quickly!!!

I dtd four days in a row after af until 2 days before O which resulted in pregnancy, i tried abstaining with a cut off for a few months and couldnt fall so wanted to try frequent as was worired how much longer i could keep diet up. Dnt know what im having yet though
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Thanks for your input Mochagirl and also thanks for sharing for your plan swish, I too think I am planning day of first positive OPK, but was hoping to wait until July. I may have to give it all up to add more calories-and wait until a later month, this diet is killing me. Is any of you using a ClearBlue Fertility Monitor? I ordered one and was hoping to use the first egg sign...not sure if the first cheapie pos OPK would be better...

This is the hardest decision for me when it comes to the sway. I think the first month I am going to go for a 3 day cut off after frequent BD. If that doesn't work then I will do a 2 day cut off, if that doesn't work then i am doing Deanna's plan. If I don't get pregnant during the first 3 months then I am taking the fall and holidays off and will start again in February. Of course I say this now, but I will probably become obsessed and keep trying.

Here's hoping we all get preggo really fast. This diet is NASTY - I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy! I'm constantly daydreaming about all the things I'm going to eat as soon as I get that BFP!

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Originally Posted by SugarSpice&EverythingNice

I have been asking a few mamas about how they got their girls....but I still can't "pinpoint" or give myself a clearer path on which to choose.

Do I want to DTD a few days before ovulation/avoid o?

Or do I want to abstain for a long period of time (7 or longer days) and then ONLY DTD after O?

Its like 50/50. Some moms swear that they got their DD's by DTD a few days before O (like the shettles method)

But some swear that its after O.

Can anybody add insight? Or does anybody feel like they are just "lost" as what to do?

I have pretty much figured out I will do the girl diet hardcore for 6 weeks, take all the supplements, testing my PH, shallow almost "pull out" method, and a lime douche. BUT I CANT FIGURE OUT if I should be trying for before O or after O.

1 thing I know for sure is that I am avoiding O. LOL.

I hear a lot of people saying that doing it before O, (shettles method) results in more boys than girls (failed sway).

Any help? The more I research, the more I still get 50/50 answers.

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That's because it's quite likely that timing doesn't work at all and so any timing you ask about will have roughly 50-50 odds.

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Originally Posted by fivebabies

This is the hardest decision for me! I don't know if I feel comfortable enough with knowing exactly when I ovulate to do O+12....anyone else nervous about this? OPK's are always + for me, I have no idea why. I do have very painful ovulation so I know "about" when I O but can't pinpoint it. :(

Did you guys see that chart of sorts on IG that showed the % of how many sways ended up successful with all combos of how they sway/what they did......very useful. Makes me want to do diet+supplements+3 day cut off.

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Have you guys read these threads? They have the how to of timing.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...thod-of-timing
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...How-to-do-O-12
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...toff-with-O-12