My pH went Up!!

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July 5th, 2011, 04:51 PM
soontobesix

My pH went Up!!

When I started this swaying process approximately 4 weeks ago, I couldn't get my pH to break a 5 on my Hanna meter. It was so frustrating (but also confirmed why I've had three girls!). So I've tested twice in the last week and both times my pH was 6.75 and 6.80! I know it's not "boy range" yet but that is a huge jump for me! I even calibrated my tester right afterwards to make sure it was reading it all correctly and it was! That means that something in my sway is working.

When I started all of this, I made a dramatic change in my diet... I'm doing high potassium/high sodium, red meat at least twice a day (I used to have practically none), very little calcium (absolutely no dairy), and higher on the calorie side. I drink probably 75-80 oz of lemon water a day. The supplements I added are a prenatal (no calcium), potassium (99 mg) 1xday, 800 mg FA, and 500 mg l-arginine.

The good news is my pH went up, the bad news is that my typically plentiful EWCM was completely absent this month :mad: I'm pretty sure it's the l-arg so I'm ditching that and replacign it with fish oil. I'm praying the diet and lemon water is what's upping my pH.

There has been a lot of discussion on here lately about l-arg and EWCM... just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. Also thought I'd let you all know that I think all the ladies are absolutely right when they say the diet is the biggest sway factor :happy: At least I think it was for my pH.
July 5th, 2011, 06:11 PM
TTC5

Wonderful and imo I think you are in boy range now!!
July 5th, 2011, 10:34 PM
begonia

Great stuff! Happy things are working for you, and so quickly!
July 6th, 2011, 03:34 PM
Flava

You have great PH for sure it's good enough for a boy!
July 6th, 2011, 03:53 PM
gizmo77

i think thats awesome about your PH! and i agree with teh l-arhinine. then should NO one take it? if almost everyone is expereincing the same thing. the only thing im wondering is, is teh l-arg increasing are T but decreases EWCM so take something else to counter the side effects of l-arg? i just wouldnt want to take all these things, personally, esply if i naturally produce it. does this mean that in women that notice decreased T from l-arg already have enough T? tho i know that ts teh estrogen thatproduces the ewcm right?

i am also agreeing with you about diet anbd starting to think that maybe by diet and exerciese only i can riase my T (or some zinc and a LITTLE gelatin (1x/day) ) and keep my natural ewcm. it make sme mad bc i wa sable to predict my O without all these supps but i know some of these supps are useful...maybe just not fo rme. otherwise id just be taking prenatal, dha (fish oil), and possibly zinc.
ill be starting the diet in a week or two ill post my diet and exercise and supps plan for you guys....
July 7th, 2011, 04:08 PM
soontobesix

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Originally Posted by gizmo77

i think thats awesome about your PH! and i agree with teh l-arhinine. then should NO one take it? if almost everyone is expereincing the same thing. the only thing im wondering is, is teh l-arg increasing are T but decreases EWCM so take something else to counter the side effects of l-arg? i just wouldnt want to take all these things, personally, esply if i naturally produce it. does this mean that in women that notice decreased T from l-arg already have enough T? tho i know that ts teh estrogen thatproduces the ewcm right?

i am also agreeing with you about diet anbd starting to think that maybe by diet and exerciese only i can riase my T (or some zinc and a LITTLE gelatin (1x/day) ) and keep my natural ewcm. it make sme mad bc i wa sable to predict my O without all these supps but i know some of these supps are useful...maybe just not fo rme. otherwise id just be taking prenatal, dha (fish oil), and possibly zinc.
ill be starting the diet in a week or two ill post my diet and exercise and supps plan for you guys....

When you start your sway, I'd be very interested in seeing it. I'm always curious what you other ladies are doing.

I think I'm in agreement with you and I'm going to try to do this as naturally as possible... diet seems to have worked for me and I view lemon water as very natural so I'm keeping that up. I know my body well and I don't really want to upset it's natural state too much, thus interfering with my ability to predict ovulation at all. Hmmmm... it's such a puzzle!
July 7th, 2011, 04:18 PM
gizmo77

Quote:

Originally Posted by soontobesix

When you start your sway, I'd be very interested in seeing it. I'm always curious what you other ladies are doing.

I think I'm in agreement with you and I'm going to try to do this as naturally as possible... diet seems to have worked for me and I view lemon water as very natural so I'm keeping that up. I know my body well and I don't really want to upset it's natural state too much, thus interfering with my ability to predict ovulation at all. Hmmmm... it's such a puzzle!

i think the prediction of the O is the most frustrating part. and for me one of the most impt even tho they say timing is the least impt. but i just have to try it all hard core first you know. i agree with you about natural state....
July 8th, 2011, 09:43 AM
atomic sagebrush

Quote:

Originally Posted by soontobesix

When I started this swaying process approximately 4 weeks ago, I couldn't get my pH to break a 5 on my Hanna meter. It was so frustrating (but also confirmed why I've had three girls!). So I've tested twice in the last week and both times my pH was 6.75 and 6.80! I know it's not "boy range" yet but that is a huge jump for me! I even calibrated my tester right afterwards to make sure it was reading it all correctly and it was! That means that something in my sway is working.

When I started all of this, I made a dramatic change in my diet... I'm doing high potassium/high sodium, red meat at least twice a day (I used to have practically none), very little calcium (absolutely no dairy), and higher on the calorie side. I drink probably 75-80 oz of lemon water a day. The supplements I added are a prenatal (no calcium), potassium (99 mg) 1xday, 800 mg FA, and 500 mg l-arginine.

The good news is my pH went up, the bad news is that my typically plentiful EWCM was completely absent this month :mad: I'm pretty sure it's the l-arg so I'm ditching that and replacign it with fish oil. I'm praying the diet and lemon water is what's upping my pH.

There has been a lot of discussion on here lately about l-arg and EWCM... just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. Also thought I'd let you all know that I think all the ladies are absolutely right when they say the diet is the biggest sway factor :happy: At least I think it was for my pH.

That is super good news and my pH is naturally a 6 and you see the results!
July 8th, 2011, 09:48 AM
atomic sagebrush

Quote:

Originally Posted by gizmo77

i think thats awesome about your PH! and i agree with teh l-arhinine. then should NO one take it? if almost everyone is expereincing the same thing. the only thing im wondering is, is teh l-arg increasing are T but decreases EWCM so take something else to counter the side effects of l-arg? i just wouldnt want to take all these things, personally, esply if i naturally produce it. does this mean that in women that notice decreased T from l-arg already have enough T? tho i know that ts teh estrogen thatproduces the ewcm right?

i am also agreeing with you about diet anbd starting to think that maybe by diet and exerciese only i can riase my T (or some zinc and a LITTLE gelatin (1x/day) ) and keep my natural ewcm. it make sme mad bc i wa sable to predict my O without all these supps but i know some of these supps are useful...maybe just not fo rme. otherwise id just be taking prenatal, dha (fish oil), and possibly zinc.
ill be starting the diet in a week or two ill post my diet and exercise and supps plan for you guys....

What I would suspect is that there is some component in the l-arg (or that you are coincidentally starting at the same time as the l-arg, like high protein or high sodium) that is drying up the CM even though it is also raising testosterone. Maybe it's reducing estrogen, or maybe it's affecting some other part of the process. It may very well be that this is temporary so I had started that other thread to see. The problem is that we just don't know at this stage of the game. We do what we think is best.

I def. like your idea of taking something to counteract the effects of the arginine, like fish oil. Might be the best of both worlds. I would say possibly arg plus robitussin makes some sense.

I am in total agreement with you on the diet/exercise idea. I think THAT is the way to go for raising testosterone and upping fertility. All the supps and BSD and gelatine, I could really do without you guys taking those because I don't think they're necessary and also because they may (and prob. DO) have side effects that we don't even understand yet.
July 8th, 2011, 09:49 AM
atomic sagebrush

Quote:

Originally Posted by soontobesix

When you start your sway, I'd be very interested in seeing it. I'm always curious what you other ladies are doing.

I think I'm in agreement with you and I'm going to try to do this as naturally as possible... diet seems to have worked for me and I view lemon water as very natural so I'm keeping that up. I know my body well and I don't really want to upset it's natural state too much, thus interfering with my ability to predict ovulation at all. Hmmmm... it's such a puzzle!

Lemon water :agree: totally natural! As are ACV, green tea, and even fish oil to a certain extent. BSD - not so much!!!
July 8th, 2011, 03:22 PM
soontobesix

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

Lemon water :agree: totally natural! As are ACV, green tea, and even fish oil to a certain extent. BSD - not so much!!!

I'm not really on board with the BSD either. I have a personal history and family history of stomach problems and the fact that this increases your risk for ulcers has me worried. I'm relieved lemon water seemed to do the trick for my pH so I don't really feel I even need to consider BSD.
July 8th, 2011, 03:27 PM
soontobesix

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

That is super good news and my pH is naturally a 6 and you see the results!

I just remember when I started all of my research on swaying and everywhere I read kept saying that diet is the most important sway factor. Of course it's also the most difficult so I didn't want to believe it. Well I jumped in head first with the boy diet and I just wanted to let everyone else know that it really does work. I'll be curious after a few more weeks on the diet if my pH continues to go up or if it will level off. At least for me, it's worth the effort.
July 9th, 2011, 04:30 PM
atomic sagebrush

Keep up the good work and again, thanks so much for updating us!!!