Rosie Update

This has been such a wild ride so far two miscarriages and 1 chemical and 1 month with no conception over the last 7 months. I saw a doctor and my progesterone is very very low. More than likely I am in the beginning stages of menopause and it has had a storm like effect on my body. It is likely that the low Prog. was the cause of my first miscarriage and maybe the second as well but surely the reason I can't even get pregnant now. So tonight I start suppositories and I am praying they work. I am nervous about side effects and such but I want a pregnancy so bad I will do anything.

So here is to a new start on trying to conceive. I will be doing very little to sway...as I am long over that all now. I just want a happy healthy bubba to add to my family.

Thanks to all who have been here for me and for all the words of encouragement over the months. I hope to report back with good news in a couple months time. No attempt for this month sadly.

I am so so grateful for this site and it really holds a special place in my heart, I don't know where I would be without it!!

Good luck to u Rosie!!
I am positive u will be blessed with a rainbow baby in the very near future.

Thank you for the update! You have a big group of cheerleaders on this site wanting the best for you. Good luck and I wish you the best. I'm sure a healthy baby #4 is out there for you.

I'm glad you have a plan but I'm a little confused as to why low progesterone=menopause?? Have you had a full infertility panel done too?

GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!! Praying for a sticky lil bub for you! :pray::fingers:

Good luck Rosie..it's a bummer u have to deal with this but I hope u get ur sticky and healthy (hopefully pink) bundle soon

How old are you Rosie?

Almost 29...I have a ton of other perimenopausal symptoms. Early menopause runs in my family unfortunately.

I really hope you will be holding a healthy baby in your arms very soon.

The doc said this stage can take up to 10 years but my fertility is declining greatly. They ran other tests and said they were low range of normal. So they are all dropping. I don't know....seems silly to me but I just listen to what they say.

What is your AMH? AFC? FSH? Do you know?

That sucks :sad: does your doctor think you'll be able to conceive a healthy, full term baby?

Nuthin...they didnt give me my numbers over the phone just said a few came back low or abnormal and that they expected it based on my symptoms and since my thyroid is fine the doc just assumed it is the start of menopause which can still take 10 years til end of menses. And that I would just need a little help with the hormones to maintain a pregnancy.

Oh Rosie, I'm sure you have time left especially if you know all you can and can change things around to work for you! Good luck!!!
I'll be keeping my eye out for you and a little bubba in the future;)

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Originally Posted by Rosie85

Nuthin...they didnt give me my numbers over the phone just said a few came back low or abnormal and that they expected it based on my symptoms and since my thyroid is fine the doc just assumed it is the start of menopause which can still take 10 years til end of menses. And that I would just need a little help with the hormones to maintain a pregnancy.

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I say this with love- take ownership of this and be your OWN ADVOCATE! You NEED TO KNOW YOUR NUMBERS!! If your numbers are in a normal range, you need to know all of your options! Is IVF a fit? IUI? Why menopause?? Making assumptions is dangerous and stupid on your doctor's part. Get a second opinion but please be your own advocate. Educate yourself! I am not sure what else you have tried yet(clomid, injectibles, etc) but there are lots of options and low progesterone does NOT equal menopause!

I will definitely find out what they are. It was just the nurse on the phone and she doesn't know what they all mean I am sure....she is new to obgyn and just started. I will be getting a second opinion if I don't get pregnant next month. I see the doc again in a few weeks and hopefully she can go over it better and run some more tests. I dont really care if I have menopause early as long as I get one last babe. My grandma was 42...my mom was 37 and all 3 of my aunts were around 40 as well for last menses so it would be no surprise if it happens to me. The doc said family history doesn't always doom you for the same fate though so maybe there is hope or a different reason my hormones are all wacky.

The losses could definitely be due to low progesterone so that can't hurt but do you know if you are ovulating?

If your numbers are in a normal or low/normal range, you may need clomid or some other help to get you to ovulate....I would ask for a copy of your tests. You paid for them so you should be able to see the results! Knowledge is power.

I am getting positive opks and ovulation pain and then a vwry very very heavy period. I thought bleeding was scant to none if there wasn't ovulation so I must be right?

Has your husband been tested too?

No, that doesn't mean you ovulated. Excess bleeding is needing to change a pad more than once an hour or bleeding that lasts more than a week. Hormone imbalance, uterine fibroids or ploys are all potential causes.

ope he hasn't. We haven't talked about having him tested. I got pregnant three times and miscarried so I think she assumes its the progesterone. If it doesn't work Then we will do more testing...I would think anyway.

I am guessing they wont do extensive testing until ive tried for 6 plus months without pregnancy.

I'd also ask to see your thyroid numbers. My TSH alwas came back as normal (standard test) but they tested my free t3 and t4 and it was dangerously low. I got on Meds and so many of my symptoms went away: irregular periods, fatigue, low sex drive, vaginal dryness, mood swings, sleep disturbances, cholesterol levels etc.

Good luck Rosie! I too had very low progestetone. Femara and progestetone pills helped me conceive.

Good luck honey, I have followed your journey and its been an emotional one, I wish you all the best for the future and most of all a healthy baby! I agree with nothin deft. Get a second opinion , good luck Xx
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Good Luck Rosie!
I hope you get your sticky bean soon!

Good luck Rosie will be here cheering you on :) xx

Hugs Rosie! My thoughts are with you! Good luck!

Oh Rosie I'm glad I saw this thread I was wondering about you. Best of luck on what sounds like it might be a challenging journey. Xx

Thanks ladies!!! I will be sure to keep you all updated!

No testing on the 12 week loss? For chromosome abnormality?

Rosie, I just want to reassure you that your prog levels NOW say nothing about what they were when you were pregnant. I SO understand the desire to seek out an easy to comprehend cause but the data indicates that a healthy pregnancy makes all the progesterone it needs to sustain itself (and certainly does so at 12 weeks). Of course use the progesterone if it gives you peace of mind to do so and wish you the very best of luck but I do just want you to continue to be proactive with your doctors in case there is more going on here. I am really really concerned that any doctor chalks up hormonal symptoms in a 29 year old to being menopausal, without a full workup. IF you are menopausal, progesterone is going to do NOTHING to help you get and stay pregnant because if the eggs are not good (which is by far the most likely cause of losses in "menopausal" women, using quotes because I do not think this is you) then you're going to be sustaining pregnancies that have no chance of working out and you might need some more aggressive treatments like DHEA to improve egg quality (DO NOT take DHEA without a doctor testing your levels).

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Originally Posted by Rosie85

The doc said this stage can take up to 10 years but my fertility is declining greatly. They ran other tests and said they were low range of normal. So they are all dropping. I don't know....seems silly to me but I just listen to what they say.

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This may be caused by swaying and we can fix it. I am really worried we are getting off on the wrong track here.

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Originally Posted by nuthinbutpink

I say this with love- take ownership of this and be your OWN ADVOCATE! You NEED TO KNOW YOUR NUMBERS!! If your numbers are in a normal range, you need to know all of your options! Is IVF a fit? IUI? Why menopause?? Making assumptions is dangerous and stupid on your doctor's part. Get a second opinion but please be your own advocate. Educate yourself! I am not sure what else you have tried yet(clomid, injectibles, etc) but there are lots of options and low progesterone does NOT equal menopause!

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:agree: totally and I see it time after time after time even in women going to the most prestigious medical institutions around the world. They show up with any weird hormone reading and are told "you're in perimenopause". But Perimenopause can go on for 15-20 years! IT's a catchall word docs use whenever they don;t know what is going on.

One of my Custom Sway clients went in for a hormone test (sounds very similar to what you've had done) and was told she hadn't ovulated, wasn't going to ovulate, and was in "perimenopause". They told her, only chance of conception is IVF with donor eggs. She got BFP 5 days later. And this was at NYU Medical Center, one of the best fertility centers in the country. These tests aren't magic and they are WIDELY open to interpretation and "low normal" readings are STILL NORMAL. HOrmones go up and down and can change drastically by the month. Even things like FSH are not set in stone and we can do tons of stuff to fix it.

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Originally Posted by Rosie85

I will definitely find out what they are. It was just the nurse on the phone and she doesn't know what they all mean I am sure....she is new to obgyn and just started. I will be getting a second opinion if I don't get pregnant next month. I see the doc again in a few weeks and hopefully she can go over it better and run some more tests. I dont really care if I have menopause early as long as I get one last babe. My grandma was 42...my mom was 37 and all 3 of my aunts were around 40 as well for last menses so it would be no surprise if it happens to me. The doc said family history doesn't always doom you for the same fate though so maybe there is hope or a different reason my hormones are all wacky.

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THEre is a HUGE difference betwen 29 and 42/37/40.

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No, that doesn't mean you ovulated. Excess bleeding is needing to change a pad more than once an hour or bleeding that lasts more than a week. Hormone imbalance, uterine fibroids or ploys are all potential causes.

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I do think you're ovulating BUT the heavier than normal periods may have nothing to do with hormones. If you have a fibroid or polyp that may be causing excess bleeding with AF. Excess bleeding with hormones often comes from very high estrogen, not low normal.

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No testing on the 12 week loss? For chromosome abnormality?

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:agree: this times 1 million. low prog may cause a chemical or 5 week loss. For a baby to have hung on till 12 weeks and then gone is very very very unlikely to be progesterone related. I am just really worried we are getting off on the wrong track here.

Best of luck rosie!!

Good luck Rosie! I definitely think you should start Atomic's fertility diet asap along with the supps she recommends to help improve egg quality like zinc and iron (especially with your heavy periods). Since this is all new to you since swaying I definitely think dietary changes could get your hormone levels back to normal. Increasing fat definitely helps in that regard and just eating full fat dairy has shown to increase fertility in several studies. I'd start simple and go from there.

Wishing you the best of luck Rosie. Thank you for your update as well.

Hugs to you Rosie! I hope that you get more answers with some further testing. We had fertility testing years ago after we had trouble keeping our second pregnancy, it is certainly a rough road and can be very confusing at times. But, much like ours, I hope your journey has a happy, healthy baby at the end of it :)