Ovulating???

Two cycles ago I had a debacle with l-arginine... I took it and my body REALLY didn't like it. Totally messed up my body for the first cycle. But the very next cycle (last month) things seemed to straighten out... had EWCM and my temps seemed somewhat typical of an ovulating pattern. Now this month, lots of CM and some EWCM and temps are a typical ovulating pattern (low at the beginning and then spike after "ovulation").

So this is my issue... I haven't been able to get a positive OPK for 3 cycles. I understand the first b/c of the l-arg issues. But if I have all the other ovulating factors working for me (temps, EWCM, ovulation pains) but I don't have a positive OPK do you think I'm still ovulating? I take a test starting usually at CD 10 or 11 and usually take one in both the morning and at night. I sometimes get a line but it is never as dark as they say it has to be for a positive test. The only thing I can think of is that I am drinking a TON of lemon water right now to sway boy... could this be affecting my results? Or maybe I'm just not ovulating after the l-arg problem? But everything else in my body points to that I'm ovulation outside of these OPK. I've never had an issue with ovulation in my life... I've always been super predictable. Any help or advice you can give would be much appreciated! Thanks!

If temps show you're ovulating you will be. It's easy to miss a LH surge if your surge is a short one. I'd trust temps (with cm) over opks any dat

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OMG , its just me ............... all is happening with me from the month i tried L-arg .... but just like u next month all was well by leaving it but since dat no +opk ( slways see line but not as dark as shud b) and my prob is i get EWCM at cd 9,10,11, having lots of O cramps these days,but no +opk, i always O on cd 13or 14....but i dont know wats happening now with my body, u r drinking lemon water but i dont....................... do u get EWCM a day b4 temp rise ???

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Sorry if TMI, I just want to help; your urine should be dark yellow (like when you keep it in for 4 hours) to get a result on your opk.

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Originally Posted by rainbowflower

If temps show you're ovulating you will be. It's easy to miss a LH surge if your surge is a short one. I'd trust temps (with cm) over opks any dat

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Thank you for the words of confidence rainbowflower... that was my initial reaction, but I was wondering if I was just hopeful since next month I am suppose to start TTC. Maybe I just have a very small window in which it would show a surge?

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Originally Posted by lightofmylife

OMG , its just me ............... all is happening with me from the month i tried L-arg .... but just like u next month all was well by leaving it but since dat no +opk ( slways see line but not as dark as shud b) and my prob is i get EWCM at cd 9,10,11, having lots of O cramps these days,but no +opk, i always O on cd 13or 14....but i dont know wats happening now with my body, u r drinking lemon water but i dont....................... do u get EWCM a day b4 temp rise ???

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lightofmylife - it's interesting that we are experiencing the exact same thing after l-arg. i swear that stuff is the worst. it totally messed me up. some people have luck with it, but not me. i do get EWCM a few days before the temp rise and this cycle i seemed to have some on the day it spiked as well. hmmmm. but seriously the temps are pretty convincing... pre-O I'm always in the low 96 degree range and they automatically spike to above 97.5 post ovulation. this cycle was no different, i was just worried since i can't get that OPK to show me a positive. i've never had that problem before l-arg.

i think Indira might be on to something with her post as well... my urine is never dark yellow (even when i wake up in the morning). i think i'm just drinking too much for that to happen. 72 oz of lemon water throughout the day plus fruit juice and coconut water. that's a lot of fluid! maybe i'm just too diluted??? are you drinking a lot of something else lightofmylife??

Not really , just regular water, orange juice and coconut water with some pulp in it.......i thought i ll DRINK MINERALS JUST ONE MONTH before TTC. and yess when i tested last my urine was dark enough .... one thing assures me to some extent that im Oing , is strong O cramps ... otherwise not getting +opk on smiley ..... wat about IC ?? are u using them ?? when i get peak EWCM , i get some dark line which is like double shaded, dark lower part and light upper part YNWIM ?? its happening from the month i didnt use L.ARG ..... im wondering when ill get rid of its effect on my cycles , its almost 4th month, and i m thinking to TTC in Oct :(

soontobesix .... i wish i can temp .....i ve to wake up 2,3 times at night :( , when i was temping i always got temp spike next day , so u r sure ovulating , i hope im also :)

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Originally Posted by soontobesix

Two cycles ago I had a debacle with l-arginine... I took it and my body REALLY didn't like it. Totally messed up my body for the first cycle. But the very next cycle (last month) things seemed to straighten out... had EWCM and my temps seemed somewhat typical of an ovulating pattern. Now this month, lots of CM and some EWCM and temps are a typical ovulating pattern (low at the beginning and then spike after "ovulation").

So this is my issue... I haven't been able to get a positive OPK for 3 cycles. I understand the first b/c of the l-arg issues. But if I have all the other ovulating factors working for me (temps, EWCM, ovulation pains) but I don't have a positive OPK do you think I'm still ovulating? I take a test starting usually at CD 10 or 11 and usually take one in both the morning and at night. I sometimes get a line but it is never as dark as they say it has to be for a positive test. The only thing I can think of is that I am drinking a TON of lemon water right now to sway boy... could this be affecting my results? Or maybe I'm just not ovulating after the l-arg problem? But everything else in my body points to that I'm ovulation outside of these OPK. I've never had an issue with ovulation in my life... I've always been super predictable. Any help or advice you can give would be much appreciated! Thanks!

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If you are having temp changes, regular length cycles, and AF that seems normal or close to normal, then you are ovulating. If you were having anovulatory cycles, they would be shorter/longer and your AF would also be different

Temping is much more reliable than OPKs are. Just to doublecheck, are you taking your OPK in the afternoons?? Don't take them in the morning, afternoons are the best time.

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lightofmylife - it's interesting that we are experiencing the exact same thing after l-arg. i swear that stuff is the worst. it totally messed me up. some people have luck with it, but not me. i do get EWCM a few days before the temp rise and this cycle i seemed to have some on the day it spiked as well. hmmmm. but seriously the temps are pretty convincing... pre-O I'm always in the low 96 degree range and they automatically spike to above 97.5 post ovulation. this cycle was no different, i was just worried since i can't get that OPK to show me a positive. i've never had that problem before l-arg.

i think Indira might be on to something with her post as well... my urine is never dark yellow (even when i wake up in the morning). i think i'm just drinking too much for that to happen. 72 oz of lemon water throughout the day plus fruit juice and coconut water. that's a lot of fluid! maybe i'm just too diluted??? are you drinking a lot of something else lightofmylife??

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I am just about DONE with l-arg. I don't think any woman should take it at this point. No one on this site had any luck with it at all and it messed up everyone's cycles. Diet and exercise are better ways to raise your T anyway.

That is a good point about urine being diluted. Makes a lot of sense really.

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Originally Posted by lightofmylife

OMG , its just me ............... all is happening with me from the month i tried L-arg .... but just like u next month all was well by leaving it but since dat no +opk ( slways see line but not as dark as shud b) and my prob is i get EWCM at cd 9,10,11, having lots of O cramps these days,but no +opk, i always O on cd 13or 14....but i dont know wats happening now with my body, u r drinking lemon water but i dont....................... do u get EWCM a day b4 temp rise ???

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If you're having normal length cycles and AF then you are ovulating. I know it's hard not to worry but just try to go off your EWCM patterns if you can't temp.

yupp i ve 29 days cycle always get AF on exact date or 1 day early or late ........ so can i O so early as cd 9 ?? the most dark line is on cd 10 , not again .

No, with a 29 day cycle there is no chance you're Oing on CD 9. The first part of your cycle (from AF-O) can be all sorts of different lengths, very long or very short, but the second part of your cycle (from O-AF) in a normal cycle is about 14 days and it doesn't really go much longer than that. (it does go shorter but that is a different issue entirely).

So for a person who has a regular 29 day (give or take a day, that is normal) cycle, the odds are that they are Oing on days 13, 14, or 15. (different days every month depending on normal fluctuations.)

You're getting a pos OPK on CD 10 and remember, most people O anywhere from 1-2 days after the positive OPK. That would put you ovulating on CD 11 or 12 which would be a little different than you might expect with a 29 day cycle (because 11 days and then 14 days after that would only be a 25 day cycle). But OPKs are not an exact science and it is possible to get a pos OPK and not be quite ready to ovulate yet. I would put a lot more faith into my cycle than I would a pos OPK - with a 29 day cycle, the odds are good you're Oing on day 13, 14, or 15 most of the time.

hmmm .. that makes sense , off course if i wud O on cd 9 or 10 it wudnt be 14 days till i get af............... i used to O on cd 14 and cd 15 but this L-arg messed up everything :(