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I'm going out for dinner tonight to celebrate dh's birthday, so I think it's going to be a cheat night. We haven't decided on a restaurant yet, but once we do I'm going to have to start studying the menu for the most diet friendly choices. I'm having just plain rice and yogurt for lunch so I'll have lots of sodium and protein left in my budget for the day, but I'm probably going to have to have something else to eat at 5 or so since we're not going out until 7:30 - I don't think I can wait that long!
right, here's todays...
Day 4
1.5 pitta + salad: 225 calories, 9.3g protein, 1.05g fat, 270mg sodium
86g chicken: 142 calories 26.7g protein 3.1g fat 64mg sodium
philadelphia and roasted veg pasta: 249 calories, 9.3g protein, 10.6g fat, trace sodium
coco pops: 175 calories, 6g protein, 3g fat, 150mg sodium
total: 791 calories, 51.3g protein, 17.75g fat, 484mg sodium
4 Marshmallows 95 calories 0.9g protein trace fat trace sodium
1 toffee dodger 83 calories 1.1g protein 3.1g fat trace sodium
2 iced fingers 244 calories 5.2g protein 5.8g fat 140mg sodium
total with extra snacks: 1213 calories 58.5g protein 26.65g fat 624mg sodium
plus half of yesterdays cola drink (250ml)
TBH I've just had tea of the pasta meal plus an iced bun and I feel SO FULL it doesn't feel right!
I think it's fine to feel full after a meal - the difference is we're only eating simple carbs so our blood sugar crashes soon after a meal, and since we're not snacking between meals, it stays low.
.. and that's why it can be difficult to eat enough, because even though we might eat all those foods over the course of a normal day and not feel too stuffed, we're not eating at all for half the day and then cramming the calories into only 2 or 3 meals to make sure we get those blood sugar drops. I don't know what the answer is. Right now I'm eating less than I should (averaging around 1100 calories) but I won't be upping that at all this week as I've just ovulated.
I'll go back to calorie cycling the week after I think. I read something by Gwen Stefani's personal trainer in a magazine this week and he said that when she's getting ready for a tour she has 1200 calories 4 days a week, 1500 2 days a week and 1800 calories 1 day a week. I do think changing the amount you eat each day is good for weight loss (something along these lines) but I think I'm the only one on this thread who actually has weight to lose and I know you guys are trying to limit that .... so I'm talking to myself really aren't I?!!
rainbow - I'm still worried you're not getting enough calories. Even for someone who's not BFing, 1200 is low. Maybe you should have a full sugar Coke with every meal? atomic also told me cranberry juice was ok to add calories, but said to get the sugary cocktail kind.
Could you add some mayonnaise or spread to your pitta or are you already doing that? Does Phili only have a trace of sodium btw? If it does I'll get some!
this is Philadelphia Light for a 30g serving:
47 calories
2.5g protein
3.5g fat
100mg sodium
please could someone perhaps design me a meal plan to follow so that I don't go over the other limits but do keep the calories up? I know it's a lot to ask... but I'm really struggling to create a good enough menu on my own. :(
it's really hard to get enough calories without overdoing the rest really.
maybe I need to cut back on the fruit+veg so I can get more junk in? really don't like the thought of that, though!
mayo has quite a bit of sodium in it doesn't it?
oh, I should also add I'm only 4'11", and petite build... so it could be that I don't really need as many calories as an "average" woman anyway?
I think you just need to listen to your body and do what you feel is right, if you're struggling to eat as many calories as you'd planned to then cut back. You've got a few months (you're planning to diet for 3 months before your attempt right?) so you can afford to change your mind back and forth for the first few weeks without being too close to your attempt. There are the meals Atomic put together in the dream section, have you seen them? Tesco Value Mayo (the only one in my fridge at the moment!) has 100mg sodium in a tablespoon. It seems alot but makes all the difference sometimes because it feels naughty!
I use Mayo too sometimes - it really feels like a treat, and I find I often need only 1/2 a serving.
I think if you're at your capacity with how much food your stomach can handle, you should definitely turn to juice and full sugar pop to add calories.
As for how many calories you need at your weight, check out this website:
http://www.bcm.edu/cnrc/caloriesneed.htm
It will calculate how many calories you need to maintain your current BMI. Since the whole point of this diet is to lose a little weight, you could aim slightly lower than what they suggest. Make sure you also take into account your BFing, though!
So, my food for today:
Lunch: Bagel with peanut butter. ww chocolate ice cream.
Dinner: Vegetable burger in wrap. Bakewell tart.
Snack: ww caramel chocolate wafer (with a nice cup of tea!)
I like all the chocolate we're all eating lately - a little chocolate makes me a much happier girl.
according to that I need 1700-1800 calories per day... I'm going to try and calculate what I was getting before this diet
weighed myself this morning and I've already dropped 2lbs in 3 days :( although that means i'm now at my pre-pregnancy weight which was a weight I was very stable at - no matter what I ate I never went up/down much from that, although I can't say I've ever dieted before
ETA - I think I was probably getting around 1900 calories on a bad day when I would eat too much chocolate/cake. so probably around the 1800 mark... on average *sigh*
Hi all, went out for dinner yesterday so bit of a naughty day!!
No breakfast
Lunch rice with balsamic and green beans, strawberries and meringue, go ahead bar, full at coke
I ate sweets all afternoon, I blame af!
Dinner vegetable antipasto starter, aubergine parmagano, half a chocolate melt pudding, a glass of wine!
I'm up to 106 lbs now and my bmi is 18.6!!!!!!
I now need to try hard to stay as I am, but how is definitely the million dollar question!!
I went out for dinner last night with dh, so ate some more normal food.
7am: coffee
12pm: rice with a bitof plain yogurt and balsamic, 2 fruit creme cookies
3pm: Diet Pepsi
5pm: homemade low fat apple muffin, Sour Patch Kids
8pm: Indian food: a couple bites of pappadum, eggplant curry, paneer tikka, rice, a couple bites of Naan + a glass of white wine. Chocolate gelato for dessert.
I have no idea what my totals were for the day, but going into my dinner out I was at only 725 calories, 11g of protein and 182g of sodium, so I'm hoping the Indian food wasn't too huge a cheat. I probably didn't get enough calories yesterday, come to think of it. My sodium probably ended up a bit high, and possibly my protein (there was quite a bit of paneer in that one dish).
Now I'm off for my weekend at my Mom's house and all the mealtime stress that comes with a weekend with family. I'm hoping I can convince them to order in pizza one night since although that's a cheat, at least it won't be meat. Sometimes I can convince my brother to cook pasta arrabiata for supper - he often makes sausages with it, but I could easily load my plate with pasta and avoid the sausages. I'm there for a total of 4 suppers, though, and I don't know what to do about the others. I hate this!
Ugh, I haven't lost ANY weight yet this week - so annoying given that it's O week! I guess I've reached a plateau and just need to keep going. I want to do the calorie cycling too as I'm probably not eating enough to lose weight (my body thinks I'm starving it!) but not this week!!
I'm sorry, Z - you've lost soooooo much weight overall, though, so I don't think you need to worry :HH:
I agree with mocha, don't stress about it! Mocha, you poor thing, I hate the lying, try not to worry as if you have a few no foods or more protein etc it won't do anything to hurt your sway, you can definitely afford a few treats and it might actually do you good!
My plan is to eat lots of sweet things like ice cream in front of them so they won't think I'm starving myself. That's been my strategy when out with friends - I don't eat a lot for supper, but I ALWAYS order dessert and eat every last bit.
Great tactic mocha! My childminder is doing a BBQ for DS2 on Monday as it's his last day with her and she said 'you're not vegetarian or anything are you' and I immediately answered no and then said 'unless you're doing veggie stuff for anybody else because I actually prefer the taste of them' and she said she was and she preferred the taste too. Phew!
My food for today:
Lunch: Tesco light choices tomato and cheese pasta bake (only 200mg sodium - good for a ready meal!) and Velvet Crunch crisp thingies.
Dinner: Vegetable burger in wrap with mayo. Strawberry yogurt.
Snack: More Velvet Crunch crisps.
I managed to keep to the diet for the most part today, but it didn't end so well. My mom made me a girl-friendly pasta for supper, but I ended up eating too much and got sick. My poor shrunken stomach just can't eat food like it used to! I ended up throwing up several times, and once I felt better enough I made myself eat a bit more to make up for all the calories I'd lost. Luckily some plain chips and full sugar Pepsi seem to have settled my stomach and I feel fine now.
7am: coffee
12pm: lunch at Tim Horton's (a coffee shop) on the road to my Mom's house. I had yogurt with fresh berries and half a plain bagel with low fat cream cheese
1pm: Diet Pepsi
5:30pm: broccoli and basil pesto with parmesan, chocolate ice cream bar and half a cup of coffee for dessert
9:30pm: low salt chips, full sugar Pepsi, apple
I have no idea what my totals really were today since I threw up pretty much my entire meal earlier. If I count everything I ate today, I come to:
Calories: 1859
Protein: 48
Sodium: 870
Tomorrow's going to be harder because my carnivore brother will likely be the one doing the cooking. I already felt everyone looking at me in the pool today, and my Mom commented that my collarbone is sticking out and I look unhealthy. Getting sick tonight doesn't help everyone's suspicion that I have an eating disorder!
Sounds yummy, SA77 - I'll have to try that sometime! I do have to say their yogurt and berries was surprisingly good - the yogurt wasn't too sweet and they were actual fresh berries on it - I thought it would be more like a sweetened berry jam. I take it you're on the IG diet? I eat tomatoes all the time on the Low Everything diet....
Actually just trying to eat light in general and stay away from the so called no no's. I don't know what's on the low everything diet though. The yogurt and berries is really good too! I'm officially in the tww and have one week to go and hopefully I get a bfp and this will be over! Although I'm going to Mandarin tonight for my best friend bday and gonna enjoy!!! Lol
I hope you get your BFP too, SA77! I won't be in the 2WW again for another week, and I'm hoping this is my last one!
So today ended up being a huuuuge cheat day since I wasn't able to really control my food with all these people around.
7am: coffee
12pm: low sodium bun with low fat swiss, a bit of mayo and cucumber, curd cheese
2pm: tomato from my Mom's garden
5:30pm: chips and guacamole while feeding the kids their supper (I know avocado is taboo, but it was sooooo good!)
6:30pm: chicken fajitas. I kind of had no choice but to eat these as my brother had been working on them all day, I was sitting beside him at the table, and everyone has commented on how skinny I am. They were sooooooo good! I only used a couple pieces of chicken (my first chicken in many months), but they were real tortillas (very salty) with salty salsa and cheddar cheese. I ate two and worried I'd be overstuffed and sick again like last night, but I feel great! I also had 3 cobs of corn, tiramisu for dessert, and red wine!
So...I'm sure I'm waaaaayyy over for protein and sodium today, but at least I got to enjoy it without feeling sick afterwards. I think I made a lot of headway in convincing everyone I'm not anorexic since I ate almost as much as everyone else. Tomorrow we're ordering pizza for supper, so I can easily eat plain cheese pizza...I just need to keep from eating 5 pieces like I'm sure I'll be tempted to! I'm going to try to have a very light lunch - maybe just some plain rice - so I can eat a little more pizza at suppertime without feeling too guilty. Eating real food today felt sooooo good...I can't wait until I can do that every day!!!
I'm SO glad you enjoyed that meal mocha!
I forgot to update yesterday:
Lunch: Dorset Apple Cake and a couple of strawberries (no idea of the nutritional content - bought from the Farmer's Market)
Dinner: Taglietelle with kids tomato pasta sauce. WW ice cream sundae.
Snack: Tutti Fruttis
Finally a weight loss showing on the scales for this week too! It's my own fault as I know I should only weigh myself once a week - will try and stay off the scales until my official weigh in day on Tuesday now!
We've had a lovely day today for DS1's birthday. He only had 3 of his friends from school over (so 6 boys in total!) and they were an absolute joy, the best party we've had so far I think.
I have eaten:
Lunch: ww bread with cheese slice. Velvet Crunch. Slice birthday cake (choc cake with choc and double cream, maltesers and choc fingers - I took the smallest slice I could!)
Dinner: Tesco light cheesey pasta with broccoli and peas.
Snack: I haven't decided yet - my tummy hurts and I don't fancy anything but I probably should or else I'll pass out by lunchtime tomorrow! Going to start with a nice cup of tea :D
Hi Girls
Would love to join you here as I find the diet REALLY hard! In fact, I have only been cutting meat, reducing portions, cutting snacks and missing breakfast until now but my first attempt is only about 5 weeks away so feel I really need to step it up a notch......
UNTIL...... I ate sausages and had wine for lunch! I am now feeling really guilty.
I just can't say no to sausages! - It really is no surprise I have 2 boys
Feel better for confessing my guilty sin and will try harder tomorrow!
x
oh, I love sausages too...
also not a good day here for me
breakfast (well, 10am) - a row of Galaxy chocolate
lunch - chicken tikka and white rice - we were out for lunch in a supermarket cafe and they literally had NOTHING I could eat! :( wish I'd been more organised now and taken something before I left, but my DH was rushing me out of the door
tea - white pitta, cucumber, radish, Shape toffee pudding
supper - nothing yet, I might have some more chocolate in a bit, though lol
Hi all, welcome maybeoneday!!
Here's today..
No breakfast
12 - 2 meringues, go ahead bar
2 - little antipasti, spinach and ricotta cannelloni, 1 piece of walnut bread, ice cream ( the cannelloni was going to be a small portion but it was too yummy!)
I'm still full but have just had rice with salad and balsamic and olive oil and a meringue (I am obsessed with meringues!!!!)
is that a bad day or not too bad, I'm not sure!
Almost all my family has now joined us at my Mom's place, and there've been a lot of gasps and comments about how much weight I've lost. I thought of a great explanation, though - I just said that when my older boys weaned themselves I gained a lot of weight (which is true), so this time when ds3 started to wean himself I decided to watch what I eat very carefully so I wouldn't gain weight, and as a result I lost weight instead. I also made sure to eat an Oreo-stuffed chocolate chip cookie today in front of everyone (my niece made them) - I figure no one would think I'm anorexic if they saw me eat something so decadent!
Sorry you're having to come up with excuses mocha - this month has to be your month! Do you expect to O this week?
I went for Tutti Fruttis for my 'snack' because I didn't fancy anything else - now it's bedtime and I'm starving! Here's hoping I can stave it off with coffee in the morning ...
I expect to O on Friday or Saturday. We're going home on Tuesday, so hopefully that's enough days before O for me to crack down again on the diet after so much weekend cheating. I think we're also going to have to do the compressed frequent BD when we get home because we skipped last night and tonight all 3 ds's are going to be sleeping in our room!
I don't blame you, better than stressing about fitting it in while you're away!
Wow - another bad cheat day yesterday:
7am: coffee
12pm: rice with balsamic, apple, 1/2 an Oreo-stuffed chocolate chip cookie (as decadent as it sounds), tiramisu
5pm: curd cheese, cucumber (I was hungry, but I definitely shouldn't have had any cheese considering what I was about to have for supper)
6:30pm: 2.5 slices of very cheesy (and delicious) pizza, more tiramisu
10pm: apple
My calories ended up within limits, but my protein and sodium were through the roof with all the cheese on that pizza. Only one more supper here and many of the guests have gone home, so hopefully I can have a more normal day today.
mocha - I too have had a day where calories are fine but protein and sodium are not!
I went to DS2's leaving BBQ at the childminder's and she did me a vegeburger - I saw the brand and looked up the nutritional content when I got home and it had almost 24g of protein and 500mg sodium (before the bread roll and ketchup!). Oh well, I did my best (and it did really fill me up!).
Weigh in day tomorrow, really hoping for a couple of pounds this month. FX!!
Hi ladies!
I'm still not back to my previous saintly sway diet even though I've put on 5 pounds now!! I'm used to eating more and I get hungry and snack! Just had some artichokes and tomatoes left from yesterday, yum!
Mocha, sounds like you did ok under the circumstances, it makes me sad to go to planned events at the moment as i thought I'd by pregnant by now and I've only had 2 attempts!!!
Z, fx for weight loss!