Use Pre-Seed or Not?

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September 12th, 2011, 04:42 PM
soontobesix

Use Pre-Seed or Not?

Hi Ladies,
I apologize in advance... my first sway attempt is in a few days so I'm probably going to have a lot of questions. Things never work out how I plan!

So here's the first question... I just checked my pH. The highest I've ever had it (near ovulation, right after orgasm) was 6.8. I just tested it right now (still a few days away from ovulation, no intercourse) and it's 7.2! My plan was to use Pre-Seed with a little baking soda in it to bring my pH up... with it being 7.2 already would you use Pre-Seed or just rely on the natural pH and not introduce a foreign substance? Is an 8 absolutely optimal or is a 7.2 still good? Just trying to figure out what to do. Never thought my pH would get this high naturally... when I started all of this I couldn't break a 5.

Thanks in advance!
September 12th, 2011, 06:23 PM
Zivic-Bubac

Excellent pH! :agree: HE diet helped me as well to raise pH, it was stucked at 6 for a loooong time while I was on IG diet.

Pre-Seed will help you to get pg and this is of course the most important as you can't get your DG without being pg :wink: If you want higher pH, maybe it's better to do BSF 1 hour before BD and use Pre-Seed as instructions say.

If you have enough EWCM with such great pH, it's probably not necessery. However, if you feel your EWCM is insufficient, then go ahead and use it. Atomic thinks of it as a boy friendly lube.

I would use it for sure in my situation ( swaying for over a year, almost 39 :tissue:, not enough EWCM - although pH is around 7 )
September 12th, 2011, 11:47 PM
TTC5

I agree with Z!
September 13th, 2011, 12:34 AM
Hobbermittens

You can also use real egg whites if you want. I think the pH is supposedly higher.
September 13th, 2011, 12:26 PM
LolaInLove

With a natural ph that high, I would use a bit of preseed and skip the baking soda. I am very wary of it and worried that it kills sperm if there is too much. GL!!!
September 13th, 2011, 01:10 PM
soontobesix

So here's another question... the pH of pre-seed is actually 7. My pH is higher than that naturally right now, so I'm worried if I use pre-seed that I will bring the pH down. At what point do you worry that your pH is too high? As an experiment last night with intercourse I used Pre-Seed with a little baking soda mixed in... my pH was 8.0 after intercourse. Does anyone else think or have experiences where they believe that the baking soda didn't work? Has anyone gotten pregnant using the baking soda? I'm thinking that since my pH is naturally so high right now that I don't want to take the chance with baking soda and kill any sperm. Thoughts?
September 13th, 2011, 01:20 PM
LolaInLove

If you've got that high a ph and ewcm, I would consider not using any of it! There have been those who have gotten pg with the baking soda, but after months and months. The part about it killing off sperm is just what I worry about, but I am more of a minimalist with swaying- the more natural you can do it, and leave out things that may unnecessarily interfere, the better. Ya know, you could give it a shot for a couple months anyway, no harm in that! And, just to throw this out there, the high ph thing is not a proven swaying factor anyway....it's just a hypothesized one. I don't think your ph is too high, but I personally wouldn't worry too much about it being higher. Preseed was made at the ph of 7-7.5 because that is the optimal ph for sperm to live and thrive in from lab testing. KWIM? You sound golden just where you are, but you can always try the preseed and bs and see if you get pg.
September 13th, 2011, 03:01 PM
gizmo77

agree with lola, i think using less "foreign" things is better. ive cut out a lot in my plan. but you will find ppl who have gotten pg with all sorts of foreign objects and liquids and organisms in them....

just depends whats most impt to you. i tweeked my plan over the course of 3-5 mos. yes..no...yes..no....yes..no...
September 13th, 2011, 04:14 PM
Flava

If you worry about pH just use EW and not preseed and no BS. I think this would be the easiest to do.
September 13th, 2011, 11:33 PM
TTC5

Quote:

Originally Posted by soontobesix

So here's another question... the pH of pre-seed is actually 7. My pH is higher than that naturally right now, so I'm worried if I use pre-seed that I will bring the pH down. At what point do you worry that your pH is too high? As an experiment last night with intercourse I used Pre-Seed with a little baking soda mixed in... my pH was 8.0 after intercourse. Does anyone else think or have experiences where they believe that the baking soda didn't work? Has anyone gotten pregnant using the baking soda? I'm thinking that since my pH is naturally so high right now that I don't want to take the chance with baking soda and kill any sperm. Thoughts?

I have the same thoughts too!
September 13th, 2011, 11:35 PM
TTC5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flava

If you worry about pH just use EW and not preseed and no BS. I think this would be the easiest to do.

What did you use Flava?
September 14th, 2011, 01:23 PM
soontobesix

Quote:

Originally Posted by gizmo77

agree with lola, i think using less "foreign" things is better. ive cut out a lot in my plan. but you will find ppl who have gotten pg with all sorts of foreign objects and liquids and organisms in them....

just depends whats most impt to you. i tweeked my plan over the course of 3-5 mos. yes..no...yes..no....yes..no...

I agree with you and Lola... the more natural the better. I'm like that with everything else in my life so I figured I should sway the same way. My pH yesterday was 7.5 and that was without orgasm or any baking soda or pre-seed. I'm fortunate it's this high so I'm just going to go the natural route.

Thanks for the feedback ladies!
September 14th, 2011, 01:44 PM
LolaInLove

Good thinking, soontobesix! FX!
September 14th, 2011, 10:42 PM
TTC5

That pH is wonderful I am jealous!
September 14th, 2011, 11:20 PM
soontobesix

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTC5

That pH is wonderful I am jealous!

Don't be too jealous... today when we actually went to DTD for our sway it was down to 6.5 :( Two days of awesomely high pH's and then it nosedives. Oh so frustrating. But I can't complain b/c I know 6.5 is fairly good as well (and is a vast improvement from where I started).
September 15th, 2011, 04:08 AM
TTC5

6.5 is great still!!!!
September 16th, 2011, 12:04 PM
atomic sagebrush

Quote:

Originally Posted by soontobesix

Hi Ladies,
I apologize in advance... my first sway attempt is in a few days so I'm probably going to have a lot of questions. Things never work out how I plan!

So here's the first question... I just checked my pH. The highest I've ever had it (near ovulation, right after orgasm) was 6.8. I just tested it right now (still a few days away from ovulation, no intercourse) and it's 7.2! My plan was to use Pre-Seed with a little baking soda in it to bring my pH up... with it being 7.2 already would you use Pre-Seed or just rely on the natural pH and not introduce a foreign substance? Is an 8 absolutely optimal or is a 7.2 still good? Just trying to figure out what to do. Never thought my pH would get this high naturally... when I started all of this I couldn't break a 5.

Thanks in advance!

I wouldn't use anything if I had plenty of EWCM and decent pH. :agree: Good luck and sending you tons of blue dust!!
September 16th, 2011, 12:05 PM
atomic sagebrush

Quote:

Originally Posted by soontobesix

Don't be too jealous... today when we actually went to DTD for our sway it was down to 6.5 :( Two days of awesomely high pH's and then it nosedives. Oh so frustrating. But I can't complain b/c I know 6.5 is fairly good as well (and is a vast improvement from where I started).

My pH when I started swaying was only a 6 and I have 4 boys!!