Attempt has commenced. Excited....

Today is CD 13 and we had one attempt last night without a condom. Don't ask me how...just happened. We haven't even talked any more yet about another try for one last baby but that happened last night and I don't think O is far away. I had EWCM yesterday and this morning, negative OPK test strips (although yesterday there was no second line at all but there is one this morning - for me they just get darker until they are a definite positive) and I had a partial ferning on saliva test this morning (more ferning than pebbles). So far we have BD without condoms on CD 5, 9 and 12. We will do another attempt when I get the first pos OPK and hope for the best. I am trying to contain my excitement but trying to stay positive as well. So everything seems on track. Just have to get DH to do one more attempt without rain gear and we should be in with a chance. ;) wish me luck.

wooooooooo!!!!!!!!! sending you my full supply of "omg that old lady is having a baby dust" :)

Wishing you lots of luck!!!!!!

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Thanks Atomic and Familymatters. I have my fingers crossed and praying that we just conceive a healthy sticky baby this time round. For me this time, a healthy baby that stays put for almost 9 months is the most important thing. If we found out that it was another little girl, then that would just be a super duper cherry-on-the-cake bonus. Time will tell...in the meantime I will just go about our life as is and keeps busy - but will take it easy at the same time and won't be lifting our 3 yr old or mowing the lawns. What will be will be....:)

FX 1moregirl, Good luck xx

Good luck! :fingers: :luck:

Good luck hun!

Good luck! So awesome that you got an attempt in! Hope your opk turns positive asap!

Oh God...I just got my first big fat smiley face positive CD16 and I've been sick with some sort of viral bug. My son had it over the weekend. High temps, sore throat, then he had vomiting for a few days. Then Monday morning I got hit with it except I haven't had high tempts or vomiting - just extreme fatigue, sore throat, headaches and nausea. I'm feeling much better today but still just pale faced and tired. I haven't been eating much at all since Monday and today is Wednesday. Should I still try and get an attempt in tonight if DH is willing? I'm excited but scared stiff at the same time that he will not want to go ahead with things without a condom. I haven't even mentioned anything about another baby for quite a while now (maybe only a month but that's a while for me...hehe). I'm excited and trying to be positive but I am also a worrier. For instance, the last few days I have been worried that I am suffering from something more sinister than just a viral thing. I always seem to catastrophize when I get sick. Or can being sick with a viral thing sway girl? Anyway, thanks for all your lovely encouraging comments . Please keep them coming as I need all the support I can get. :) xx

Sick sways girl, go for it!

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Get in as many attempts as possible before DH changes his mind!

I was very sick with stomach flu right at O before my last BFP. B/G twins, no swaying.

Being sick may help sway pink, fi DH will attempt, do it, and I hope you're feeling better soon

Hi ladies. Last night I crawled into bed at 9pm (early for me) and DH was studying on his computer. I had planned to wait for him but I fell asleep. Anyway, I hope this is ok but I woke up at 12.30 (so half midnight) and, on impulse, decided I would regret it if I didn't get an attempt in. So I switched places in the bed with our 3 yr old possum (who sleeps between us) and seduced DH. So it did happen, and without a condom. I hate to say this, but I'm not sure if I had his full approval, as a few times he stopped and mentioned putting on a condom but in the heat of the moment I think I replied with 'don't worry love. It'll be fine. Just go with it.' We have gone for so long without talking about that written proposal/letter that I gave him and he hadn't mentioned it either. Part of me believes it's just the act of trying for another that scares me, whereas if it's a low key attempt he is ok. So from now, what will be will be....the rest is in God's hands. In the meantime I will just keep praying that he graces us with one last healthy baby. I just have to think positive, stay relaxed, and not worry that if I get pregnant and miscarry again it will be traumatic and I might bleed to death (because, to be honest, that is my worst fear). I haven't been eating much this week and yesterday I had started to feel better. In fact, it's been about 3 or 4 days that I haven't taken ubiquinol, only folic acid. I hope that's ok. Oh yes...nearly forgot....last night before our attempt I had to get up and take two panadol because I had really painful ovulation pains. I haven't had them for quite a long time now. Hope that's a good sign. And then this morning I got my second positive smiley face OPK. So that means we BD on CD 12 and again last night. I'm just worried because when swaying girl you are meant to BD on the same day as your first pos OPK, whereas we BD just after midnight, so isn't that technically my second day of pos OPK? Does this matter Atomic? I really wanted to give it my all to sway pink. Then I had lunch yday with one of my best friends and she told me she believed if I got pregnant again it would be another boy and that my last baby that I lost was a girl. I wish people would keep things like this to themselves. I think it's insensitive, though I know she didn't mean it to be. Anyway, I really feel at peace within myself this morning that I gave it my best shot, given that I have not had DH completely on board. In all honesty, I don't know if I would ever have really fully gotten him on board, but I know how religious he is and that if we are blessed with another healthy baby then he will graciously accept it and love it (like he did last time). Today is CD 17 and my second day of pos OPK. So our BD pattern was CD 5, 9, 12 and 16/17. I am guessing I will O sometime today or tomorrow? I didn't temp for a few days this week due to being sick, but this morning it was 36.54 (my highest BBt for this cycle so far) - if only I had taken BbT yesterday I could well have ovulated already do you think? This morning when I woke up I felt a quick twinge in my right lower side that lasted a few Seconds or could it have been last night when I had all that pain? FF has not marked any crossroads on my chart as yet which is strange. Sorry for the novel.

Timing doesn't sway, so your attempts are great for pink. Without temps you can't know when you Oed, but it may have been the night before. Or not! Either way you are covered!

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Timing doesn't sway, so your attempts are great for pink. Without temps you can't know when you Oed, but it may have been the night before. Or not! Either way you are covered!

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Can you still get pos OPKs after you have Oed Maiden? So you mean I might've actually Oed last night when I had those pains, since my BBt this morning was my first one above the cover line? Only thing is I took my BBT this morning at 7am when on all the other mornings I have taken it at 6.45am. So that makes that BBT a bit inaccurate doesn't it? Bugger. I won't be doing any more attempts now as DH probably wouldn't cave Again. I was pushing my luck just to get him to BD twice without condomms so we will just see what happens. I'm also worried as for a pink sway that DH has been working from home for the last 5 days and so not riding his bike like he usually does which is good for a pink sway. :( Monday he worked from home, and Tues and Wed he worked from home again because I was sick. He is usually sitting down at his computer all day though so should that help? Anyway, it's done now isn't it? Is there anything else I can do now to help our pink sway or should I just relax a bit now and go with the flow? Thanks for all your help. I feel I've done the best I can given the circumstances with DH not fully on board. :)

15 minutes isn't going to affect your temp, and even uf it does, it's going to be so slight it won't affect your chart pattern. I think at this point all you can do is jyst relax and see what happens.

What Bunny said. How long your OPK stays positive usually says nothing about when you Oed. Yes you can O before your OPK turns neg.

I recommend sticking to the diet strictly to provide the low glucose environment XX embies prfer and aldo in case you aren't pregnant l

I hope you get your bfp hun! I feel your pain, I just lost my dd (which I conceived when sick!). hang in there and sending out sticky dust!

I think you had a nice attempt and I would not change a thing.

Please try not to worry about the particulars.

Thanks ladies for taking the time to comment, give advice, give encouragement and sharing your own stories. I guess I am now in the 2WW.....Eeeeek! Today was CD 18 and my BBT went up to 36.7 this morning, so well above the cover line. Yesterday was 36.54, but CD 15 and 16 I didn't take BbT coz as sick and soooo tired. I think I have to wait for 2 more days on FF before it gives me a crossroad to indicate when it believes I ovulated. But I am thinking it was yesterday some time, so it seems I could be in with a good chance. My OPK this morning was back to negative again as well. I am not going to let myself get excited this time round at all, as I don't want to get my hopes up only to be disappointed again. I'm just going to try and stay chilled and not get remotely excited unless I make it well past the 12 week Mark. I visited my 43 yr old friend today who had her 20 week scan two days ago as she has been worried and upset. They found at her scan that her little boy has an issue with his kidneys the poor thing. Anyway, that's my latest update. I'm a tad excited...but mostly nervous.

CD17 looks very likely for O, IMO. Fx for nice high temps!

Thankyou Maiden. :) xxoo

I looked at your chart and it is looking to me like ovulation occured.

RE the kidneys - there's something that shows up on lots of ultrasounds and then goes away again and it's only rarely anything bad. I hope she's not too worried, if no other markers are present the odds are great that this is just a temporary thing that will fix itself later on.

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I looked at your chart and it is looking to me like ovulation occured.

RE the kidneys - there's something that shows up on lots of ultrasounds and then goes away again and it's only rarely anything bad. I hope she's not too worried, if no other markers are present the odds are great that this is just a temporary thing that will fix itself later on.

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Thanks Atomic. Yes I think I Oed on CD 16 or 17. Either way, I think I nailed the timing so fingers crossed and we'll see....As for my friend Atomic, the Ob doing her scan said her baby has a horse-shoe shaped kidney. So they haven't separated like they should've had and formed two sep kidneys earlier on during the development stage. She has a scan and consult with a renal paediatric specialist next week so hopefully it won't be too bad. At least it's not a heart effect or something more serious but still hard to deal with when you expect everything to be perfect. Gorgeous pic of your precious little girl too, btw. :) x

1moregirl looks like your in with a pretty good chance . Good luck
Sorry to hear about your friend , hoping all will be ok xx
I know that pic of atomic daughter is absolutely gorgeous, she's a cutie ��

A high temp this morning but still early days at only 4dpo. It's soooo hard not to get excited. DH is still very anti baby so I don't think he would ever have changed his mind. All he thinks about is money. Wish me luck. Then I just had my mum here this morning telling me how lucky I am I didn't die last time when I had the miscarriage. Good Lord. Don't we just love negative Nancies? Not...

Thank you! Good luck!

Atomic - or anyone else - I only have 4 ubiquinol tablets left and I literally have no money left until Monday week (our little girl's 6 th birthday party on the weekend just gone, hence why I'm out of pocket. Lol!) do you think I can start taking it every second day now or is it too early and will do some sort of damage? I'm 5 DPO today. Thanks :)

Yes start spacing them out

Thanks Atomic. So every second day for this week then next week every third day. Is that right? And what about the folic acid? Do I continue taking 2000mcg of that throughout pregnancy (if it happens)? Thanks Hun. Also, what do I do about my Mum's comments? She has this way of making me feel guilty for things so that now I will prob feel guilty if a get a BFP for taking the risk of another miscarriage? Or do I just forget about that negative side and try and stay positive? Thanks. :)

7DPO today and BbT still nice and high. Have sore boobies, cranky as hell and increased appetite but not assuming anything just yet. :)

Sounding promising 1moregirl, keep us posted..
Re. The comments take them all with a grain of salt, mothers are hard sometimes and tend to be negative , I think they do it to make themselves feel better .
You stay positive its the best thing for you right now xx
Hugs

1moregirl,

I am rooting for you. I also am AMA and am ttc a girl. I swayed last year and it actually worked but I miscarried my baby girl due to chromosome error at 10 weeks.

Now I am so sad and devestated.

How did you get you husband to try again?

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Sounding promising 1moregirl, keep us posted..
Re. The comments take them all with a grain of salt, mothers are hard sometimes and tend to be negative , I think they do it to make themselves feel better .
You stay positive its the best thing for you right now xx
Hugs

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Thanks Faith. Yes it's difficult enough trying to conceive or actually conceiving when you're in your 40s without others around you voicing their opinions, albeit negative ones. I did a HPT today (really stupid though, as its really way too early for me at 7 DPO) so of course it was negative. Last time I got my first squinter at 10 DPO. Anyway, I'm going to try not to do any more as I just wasted one First Response one today and I don't think I have any more money to buy any more HPts til next Monday. My boobs haven't felt that sore today so maybe I've just been imagining symptoms prior to today. I guess I'll know for sure in 3 or 4 days.

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Thanks Atomic. So every second day for this week then next week every third day. Is that right? And what about the folic acid? Do I continue taking 2000mcg of that throughout pregnancy (if it happens)? Thanks Hun. Also, what do I do about my Mum's comments? She has this way of making me feel guilty for things so that now I will prob feel guilty if a get a BFP for taking the risk of another miscarriage? Or do I just forget about that negative side and try and stay positive? Thanks. :)

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You can't change anyone's mind so I wouldn't try. I just kept my mouth shut about my pregnancy till I was 5 months and out of the riskiest part.

there's no right or wrong way on the dose, just space them further and further out. Should take about 3 weeks.

Folic thru first tri and then wean off.

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1moregirl,

I am rooting for you. I also am AMA and am ttc a girl. I swayed last year and it actually worked but I miscarried my baby girl due to chromosome error at 10 weeks.

Now I am so sad and devestated.

How did you get you husband to try again?

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Thanks for sharing MrsGoodies. I'm sorry for your loss last year. I had swayed for pink too last year when I had my miscarriage and in a way I think it was a good thing that I didn't know what the gender of the baby was. I really hope and pray that you get a sweet little pink rainbow baby this year Hun. It is devastating. It took me a good 4 months to get over it and to be able to talk about it without crying. It was also hard on my 5 yr old daughter as she had believed she was getting a baby sister so it took a long time for her to recover as well. :( As far as my husband goes, he is adamant about no more kids and won't budge, so it's more a matter of me getting him to BD without a condom (which I somehow miraculously was able to do this last cycle) - and I know if I get a BFP he will accept the baby as a gift from God and will be happy about it and love the baby. What is your husband's attitude about trying again? Good luck and stay in touch. It's sooo nice and comforting to have others in the same place as yourself. Xx

At first my DH said some hurtful things but then after we wrote back and forth he eased up a little.

I really hope we can try again soon.

Are you doing any swaying like diet, supplements etc?

Also, what was your cycle like after your miscarriage? Did you ovulate right away or was it anovulatory?

Fingers crossed for your test.