Advice please- is mother nature sabotaging my sway...

Hello lovelies,

I am planning to boy sway starting from my May cycle (fingers crossed it works this time!) We both started HE and supps (multivit, EPO, TT, fish oil and folic acid) approx 2 weeks ago. Also I'm drinking a lot of green tea. I normally cycle like clockwork, OV on day 15 and usually 30/31 cycle. Im not sure if theres anything in the supps or diet but this cycle I have had brown stained discharge on cd 8 and 10. Then yesterday evening, cd11, have had blood loss, enough to have to wear a pad, seems to have eased a little today but still blood when I wipe (sorry TMI) what is this :( why in the name of all things has this happened so close to when I need everything in order? Ive done OPK last two days both neg. I'm actually fuming with my body I feel like its having a laugh at my expense. Now I don't know if to ignore this and assume its one of them things or class this as a period, its sure messed up my ff that's for sure! Anyone had this or similar and could it be something I'm eating or drinking or the suppliments causing this? Thanks in advance

It could be the EPO. I would drop that. I don't think it's wise to take, anyway. It can cause spotting and delay O.

oh really? I didn't know that. Ive always took it when TTC to help the mucus side of things. This was a lot more than spotting mind x

The fish oi, is a blood thinner so the combo could have caused the bleed. How much fish oil are you taking?

I'm taking 1000mg a day (split over 2). Obviously after 3 girls we are desperate for a boy and our last sway (where admittedly we didn't stick 100% more like 80) was not successful. This time round is our last attempt and anything related to boy sway we are trying!!! Probably going to far into it now but we cant take any chances :( sitting after finding out we were having another girl and analysing where we went wrong was aweful. We want to be able to say we gave it all we had. Thanks for your replies xxx

That's a fine dose of fish oil, I think it was just combined with EPO that may have caused bleeding. Did you go a GD style for your last girl?

Last time I don't a bit of a combo the bits I liked of GD and a bit of Boy diet from the "other" site combined. I done HE but cut out dairy and acidic foods. So the supps etc are a mixture off the IG site boy cooking and I'm following HE from here this time. We have both cut out all alcohol and caffeine apart from the odd mouthful of coke. Last time I done several attempts during O time and this time I'm going to just try once on O day (will use cheapie OPK till close then got smiley face and waiting for peak fertile time) so basically doing same but tidying up the loose ends. I wish we could have gone for PGD (as originally planned) as its our last attempt but sadly we don't have the finances and refuse to get into debt for something which may not work at all. Hope you get your BFP soon xxx

The TT (I never recommend this anyway) the green tea and the EPO all can cause this.

I seriously doubt it's a period, midcycle spotting or bleeding from the cervix. I would have you drop the TT, wean off EPO, and cut green tea intake by 1/2 and see waht happens.

I can't say strenuoulsy enough how big a mistake it is to do the one attempt. We have 70-75% for PINK with that. I totally understand wanting to change things up but of all the things to change, PLEASE don't do just one attempt. I beg ya. Even if you can do two, it will help.

Thanks for the advice atomic, I think you might be right with the tt as it is something I have never taken before whereas the others I have with no ill effects. I hear what your saying but based on that would you recommend once at first positive? Im using smileys so would you say wait for the peak and try the 2 days following? or Try at flashing smiley and then at peak? I apologise if its on a post somewhere, ive been trying to go through some old posts but its a minefield x

Baby2016baby, for my boys, one was conceived bd every second day and the other one was a one attempt but heaps of clear egg white that morning.

I ate cereal every morning with full cream milk, drank normal tea all day and meat every night, with salad mostly, very little carbs, unless I had a toasted sandwich at lunch. I had lots of milk in cereal and tea. No sodas or alcohol.

I am desperate for a girl, so I am doing the Le diet now, still trying every month, May will be 1 year on the diet with no luck yet, but I am 38 in June, so maybe that has something to do with it.

Good luck, I hope u get your boy, I really think the diet and lots of protien are key, plus eating breakfast cereal like muesli or oats.

I also wouldn't do one attempt for a boy sway. Three attempts in the fertile window is what is getting the best result, with 2 attempts being next. One attempt is strictly girl territory. Both my boys were conceived with 2 attempts in the fertile window.

Are you eating breakfast, eating full fat dairy and meat, and snacking daily? I think that is super important.

I got my boys from 2 attempts in fertile window, full fat dairy, green or white tea daily (1-2 cups, not loads), zero alcohol or coffee, and meat daily. I was also taking a multivitamin, b-complex, probiotics, fish oil, and vitamin D daily. My breakfast cereal of choice was Kashi Go Lean Crunch which is high in protein. Snacks would be nuts, full fat yogurt, beef jerky, or a shake with full fat dairy, banana, and peanut butter.

Thanks for your post really helpful. I'm eating like a horse and we have both cut out caffeine and alcohol. Taking same as you but not prebiotics. Only as in past have give me a dicky tummy but maybe I should order some, would it be best for the pills or the drinks?

Hope you don't mind me asking but for your two attempts when did you do them? I know they say timing is not as important but did you go for 12 hours after first + or wait longer. I'm using cheapies and smileys so was planning on using cheapies till I get a feint line then going to smileys. Was planning as soon as solid smiley and the next day. Or would I better doing at flashing smiley then at solid? I really only have one shot to get it right x

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Hope you don't mind me asking but for your two attempts when did you do them? I know they say timing is not as important but did you go for 12 hours after first + or wait longer. I'm using cheapies and smileys so was planning on using cheapies till I get a feint line then going to smileys. Was planning as soon as solid smiley and the next day. Or would I better doing at flashing smiley then at solid? I really only have one shot to get it right x

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Both my boys were oopsies, so no planning! With DS2 though, I had just bought opks in preparation for TTC and swaying in several months time. I took my first opk ever on the afternoon of CD12 and it was positive! We had already BD on the mornings of CD9 and CD11 thinking we were safe since I don't usually O till CD15. For the first time ever I O'd on CD12! So my attempts ended up being O-3 and O-1.

For a planned boy sway though most people wait for +opk (solid smiley) then do 3 attempts in a row. Before +opk you'd BD every other day to keep sperm health up. So if you get a +opk the afternoon of CD13, you'd want to BD the night of CD13, the morning of CD14, and the night of CD14.

Thank you, I think I need to order more smileys lol especially as people seem to be testing 3/4 x a day lol I assume if your getting a + on a cheapy a solid smiley must be close? Even so off to ebay I go. Thanks for the advice xxx

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Thanks for the advice atomic, I think you might be right with the tt as it is something I have never taken before whereas the others I have with no ill effects. I hear what your saying but based on that would you recommend once at first positive? Im using smileys so would you say wait for the peak and try the 2 days following? or Try at flashing smiley and then at peak? I apologise if its on a post somewhere, ive been trying to go through some old posts but its a minefield x

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No, I want you in with 2-3 attempts. Start the night of positive OPK, again the next morning if you can, and then again the following night. All these attempts would still be in line with Shettles timing.

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Thanks for your post really helpful. I'm eating like a horse and we have both cut out caffeine and alcohol. Taking same as you but not prebiotics. Only as in past have give me a dicky tummy but maybe I should order some, would it be best for the pills or the drinks?

Hope you don't mind me asking but for your two attempts when did you do them? I know they say timing is not as important but did you go for 12 hours after first + or wait longer. I'm using cheapies and smileys so was planning on using cheapies till I get a feint line then going to smileys. Was planning as soon as solid smiley and the next day. Or would I better doing at flashing smiley then at solid? I really only have one shot to get it right x

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DO NOT wait till 12 hours after positive OPK to have attempts. The sperm will not even have time to capacitate and make it to the egg if you O on the earlier side after positive OPK and you may as well be doing a pink sway because you'll have barely any capacitated sperm waiting for the egg. Few sperm + one attempt = girls.

Probiotics were such a good blue sway for us (even among pink swayers) that we totally dropped it for pink and now use only for blue. It should settle down over time with your tummy or try a different type this time.

I have had 2-3 attempts for 3 of 4 of my boys and 3 of the 4 of them were with long cutoffs (other was a sneak attack and so I'm not totally sure when I got him or how many attempts it was). I got my girl late at night (like 1 am) on O Day with one attempt.

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Thank you, I think I need to order more smileys lol especially as people seem to be testing 3/4 x a day lol I assume if your getting a + on a cheapy a solid smiley must be close? Even so off to ebay I go. Thanks for the advice xxx

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:agree: use the cheapies to tell you when to start with the smileys since they are $$$

Thank you atomic. Will take all on board ready for may cycle providing my body behaves x