So much Truth to the LE Diet!!

I was thinking about all the people I know who have children. And I am telling you it is textbook LE or HE. It is fascinating how accurate Atomic is with all her information!!!

Ill give some examples.

Stephanie: She had an eating disorder, issues with control, bottled anxiety, Eats more vegetables than you could think possible, eats a lot of meat, oatmeal for breakfast, stays away from carbs, Husband works away from home and so she's the primary parent, super fit,..... yup she has 3 boys.

Amanda: Doesn't work out and if she does its just cardio, forgets to eat and when she does its time quantities and she usually eats junk, fast food, picks at stuff. Drinks coffee and wine. Very laid back. super thin. She just had a baby girl.

Maryam: Very ambitious, high stress, workaholic, loves avocados, pizza, anything hearty, had a baby boy

Lindsay: Very very very go with the flow, doesn't exercise, doesn't eat much, is pretty picky and loves sugary candy and fun drinks. Has 2 girls.

Anna: Highly anxious and in control with work, she's at the gym all the time and has a trainer, eats tons of vegetables is very fit, and she just had her second son.

Katherine: LOVES TO EAT! she would always tell me to try this restaurant because of the beer pretzels etc. Loves hardy meat and potatoes type foods. Gets anxious easily. Has 2 boys.

Robin: High position at work and is the main caregiver at home. Needs to be in control and refers to herself as a control freak. She LOVES MEAT!!!! She has 2 boys.

Kristina: Vegetarian, loves wine and coffee, she's super calm and laid back, her husband cycles. They are having a baby girl

Liz: Stay at home mom but fully in charge of the entire household in every way. She eats hardy meat and potatoes type meals. She is also very fit. She has 2 boys.

My mom: Befor me she told me she was very laid back and ate a lot of pasta haha. Before my brother she said she was extremely stressed (which was why they waited 3 years to have him) and ate more meat since my dad at the time was a butcher.

ME!: I took on a new high stress job, plus we were renovating our house, plus we just got married, and because of the stress we ate burgers and fun stuff from boxes with tons of sodium and processed hardy foods. I also ate way too much because of the stress. I would binge. I would sometimes eat two lunches. Zero exercise. no alcohol, no coffee. I have a boy who I am going to guess is very high testosterone. Everyone says he's a "boy" like your typical hard core stereotype. Not that I care either way but its interesting as it is reflective of when he was conceived.

Just wanted to share as I am EXTREMELY fascinated with this!! I feel like I can predict gender now based on the persons diet and demeanour!

I believe LE works but in my observation of people I know it's much less binary than that.

For example, I know a few mothers who skip meals and have girls, but they also tightly wound and need to be in control. On the other hand I know a few very laid-back mothers of boys. In other words, I think there is truth to using diet and personality traits to sway but people are almost never so black-and-white.

I know maybe one real textbook super-organized boy-mom with a rich diet but everyone else seems to have a patchwork of habits and traits. They may lean a little more to one side or another but nobody is a walking stereotype.

I have boys and I had a very boy-friendly diet but if I had girls I could have easily pointed to the alcohol I drank every day, or all the cardio I did, etc.

The interesting thing about your examples is where some of us fall out of it.

I had an eating disorder that I have been recovered from and started to backslide into before conceiving. As a result of ultimately following an LE lifestyle [tons of exercise, low calories, low protein, more alcohol use than probably healthy, lots of caffeine (specifically coffee and Diet Pepsi or artificial sweetened drinks) would go whole days without eating, etc.], I got a daughter.

Personality wise, I don't think there's a more textbook boy mom. Highly anxious, SUPER about control, obsessive, competitive, etc.

All of my personality traits, though, directly fed my eating disorder... which caused my girl!

Hoping the fact that I will never be a laid back, go with the flow, leave it up to "faith" person will help me once I get my diet lined up with HE ;)

What about the people who continuously eat the same yet have say the pigeon pair?? Would this be down to timing do you think? X


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Originally Posted by Blueplease

What about the people who continuously eat the same yet have say the pigeon pair?? Would this be down to timing do you think? X


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Ive often wondered this! Like Gisele Bündchen for example?

I know. I believe diet does play a huge part but it must then be purely down to timing. Maybe we could ask her say in Twitter when she bd?? Lol


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Lol :D

Timing doesn't sway. I think the reason some people get pigeon pairs is because even though their diet didn't change, there's other things they had going for them that swayed. Also, just because someone got a boy and lived a "textbook" boy lifestyle, does not mean they will for sure have another boy. They may be 80% set for boys but be in the 20% that still gets a girl regardless.

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Originally Posted by Throwaway_panther

The interesting thing about your examples is where some of us fall out of it.

I had an eating disorder that I have been recovered from and started to backslide into before conceiving. As a result of ultimately following an LE lifestyle [tons of exercise, low calories, low protein, more alcohol use than probably healthy, lots of caffeine (specifically coffee and Diet Pepsi or artificial sweetened drinks) would go whole days without eating, etc.], I got a daughter.

Personality wise, I don't think there's a more textbook boy mom. Highly anxious, SUPER about control, obsessive, competitive, etc.

All of my personality traits, though, directly fed my eating disorder... which caused my girl!

Hoping the fact that I will never be a laid back, go with the flow, leave it up to "faith" person will help me once I get my diet lined up with HE ;)

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You sound exactly like my SIL (except for the Diet Pepsi, coffee and alcohol-she drinks literally zero of that), even down to the eating disorder. I thought her personality might overcome everything else b/c she is SUPER high-strung, self-described control freak and very high-stress but she is pregnant with a girl.

Can I ask how you're doing with being pregnant and having an eating disorder? We're all pretty concerned with my SIL. She has only put on 3 lbs (she was around 100lbs when she got pregnant) and her blood pressure has been very low.

I guess there are always exceptions to every rule and I think thats why sways are not 100%.
In the end i believe what will be will be! :)

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You sound exactly like my SIL (except for the Diet Pepsi, coffee and alcohol-she drinks literally zero of that), even down to the eating disorder. I thought her personality might overcome everything else b/c she is SUPER high-strung, self-described control freak and very high-stress but she is pregnant with a girl.

Can I ask how you're doing with being pregnant and having an eating disorder? We're all pretty concerned with my SIL. She has only put on 3 lbs (she was around 100lbs when she got pregnant) and her blood pressure has been very low.

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Psychologically it's been really difficult, so I feel for your SIL. Everything is going healthy wise for my baby and she's measuring and developing as normally as can be -- despite my eating habits occasionally still being a struggle. A few comments on how "big" I've gotten, despite plenty of compliments, made me borderline suicidal. I hope she's seeing a therapist!

I don't know how far along she is, but I know I got essentially a false positive on both GD tests (it being false confirmed with random blood draws by my midwife). The doctor said this is extremely common for people with EDs and who were very lean before pregnancy.

Everything is fine, but it REALLY triggered my anorexia, so I'd be mindful when she gets to that point (or even if she has and is hiding it out of shame).

My BP has been very low as well, and has even resulted in some brief scares from falls and dizziness :/

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What about the people who continuously eat the same yet have say the pigeon pair?? Would this be down to timing do you think? X


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Even if you don't dramatically change your diet, just having a child is a huge change to your life and your biology. How you react to that change is often enough to tilt you towards the other gender. Timing doesn't sway.

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Even if you don't dramatically change your diet, just having a child is a huge change to your life and your biology. How you react to that change is often enough to tilt you towards the other gender. Timing doesn't sway.

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Very true, and breastfeeding or getting pregnant right away also sway! Not getting enough sleep, not uncommon when you have babies or toddlers, also might sway.

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What about the people who continuously eat the same yet have say the pigeon pair?? Would this be down to timing do you think? X


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NO ONE eats exactly the same between conceptions and additionally there are many other physical changes that take place with age that may sway.

Timing does not work and gender swaying is not 100%. Even with "ideal" sways we get opposites 20% of the time. Most people are not doing anything near what we do to sway. My mom had a mostly pink-friendly lifestyle but certainly didn't avoid meat or anything like that. Virtually everyone is doing and eating random meals and not some very strict diet day in and day out.

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I know. I believe diet does play a huge part but it must then be purely down to timing. Maybe we could ask her say in Twitter when she bd?? Lol


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You are operating under the assumption that gender swaying is 100%. It isn't. The entire human race would have died out a long time ago because people used to eat much more similar diets than they do now and yet still boys and girls are conceived at about 50-50 rate.

People with pigeon pairs are simply lucky. They did NOT sway all out b@lls to the wall for a girl and then do a full on blue sway. They probably didn't give it any thought whatsoever. Maybe their diet was more pink or blue friendly, maybe it was just sort of halfway inbetween boy and girl, there are literally limitless variations on human diet that don't even resemble HE or LE type diets, like very caloric dense vegan diets making boys, and high protein atkins type diets making girls, and everything you can possibly think of.

TIMING DOES NOT SWAY. Period, end of story. I have 4 timing opposites!

There were many times in my life where I probably would have gotten a girl if I'd only TTC at that point. It just didn't happen that I did TTC then. For many people with PP they just get lucky and happen to TTC in a time where they're a little more pink or blue friendly.

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NO ONE eats exactly the same between conceptions and additionally there are many other physical changes that take place with age that may sway.

Timing does not work and gender swaying is not 100%. Even with "ideal" sways we get opposites 80% of the time. Most people are not doing anything near what we do to sway. My mom had a mostly pink-friendly lifestyle but certainly didn't avoid meat or anything like that. Virtually everyone is doing and eating random meals and not some very strict diet day in and day out.

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I thought the sway success rate was much higher on here! :(

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I thought the sway success rate was much higher on here! :(

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That is a typo. If I was only getting 20% success rate I would simply switch what I was having people do for boys and girls haha. Now corrected.

With ideal sways we get opposites 20% of the time. Typo now corrected.